Jack Deere on cessationism

I just found an interesting article on TheHeresy.com described as being by Jack Deere: "No one ever just picked up the Bible, started reading, and then came to the conclusion that God was not doing signs and wonders anymore and that the gifts of the Holy Spirit had passed away. The doctrine of cessationism did not originate from a careful study of the Scriptures. The doctrine of cessationism originated in experience.The failure to see miracles in one's own experience and to locate them in past … [Read more...]

The year in review

Its that time of the year when we look back, get all misty eyed and think about the year that was. This will probably be a long post, in it I will first reflect on the ridiculously flattering but also rather humbling level of readership that has come this way in 2005, then I will review the highlights of the blogging year for me. Its my chance to think about what I have liked about blogging this year- who knows you might find even some interesting posts you would like to go back and read. … [Read more...]

Challies interviews Dr. Wayne Grudem on charismatic gifts

Challies has published his Dr. Wayne Grudem interview I will just quote one extract for now to encourage you to go read the rest:I think we have in the twentieth century a historical aberration not essential to Reformed theology that cessationism has become the dominant view. … [Read more...]

Healing the charismatic rift?

Many many thanks to Justin Taylor who in a private email pointed me to an article by Vern Sheridan Poythress. Although bizzarely titled "Modern Spiritual Gifts as Analogous to Apostolic Gifts: Affirming Extraordinary Works of the Spirit within Cessationist Theology" I found next to nothing in this article that I disagreed with. If this article is cessationism then I am a cessationist. To me though it seems to be firmly on the charismatic side of the fence since the article argued for a … [Read more...]

The challenge remains out there: show me a single bible verse or passage that supports cessationism

Tim Challies in my comments section was outraged at my claim that cessationism does not rest on a single verse of scripture. I am sorry to be quite so provokative but in however many weeks of asking in public on my blog, not ONE blogger that I am aware of has been able to offer ONE argument that even mentioned a bible verse to support cessationism. Perhaps I have just missed it, but I havent seen any biblical support for such a view. There is nowhere that says gifts will stop before heaven. … [Read more...]

Apostles are meant for today- Challies wheels out the big guns in the charismatic debate

Challies has brought in the big guns and is interviewing Dr Sam Waldron and Dr Wayne Grudem on the subject of cessationism/charismaticism. Today, Sam Waldron has an interesting argument which is essentially a cascade argument:The people we read in my doctoral program (and at the same time these people that would assume that cessationism was nonsensical and not even discussable) would in almost the same breath admit or assume that Apostles no longer exist in the church today ("big A" Apostles). … [Read more...]

Speaking in Tongues: How Widespread is Faking?

In a challenge to us charismatics and pentecostals, Heart, Mind, Soul, and Strength asks "Speaking in Tongues: How Widespread is Faking? "The fact that there are counterfeits around does not negate the true. For me, I received tongues suddenly and without anyone coaching me. I have however heard of people "coaching" at times. … [Read more...]

Recommending two pastor bloggers who are reformed charismatics

I havent much time to blog right now, but I do just want to point you to two of the veritable gaggle of reformed charismatics we now have forming. It is interesting how the storm that is the whole charismatic debate has had an incredibly positive effect over on this side of the blogosphere divide. Over the centuries heretics served the church well by causing a coming together of Gods people and a formulation of good doctrine. Whilst I wouldn't want to call Phil Johnson a heretic, he and others … [Read more...]

Settling some old scores the old fashioned way

Many thanks to Jacob Hantla for a link to "Google Fight". Its time to settle a few scores the old fashioned way. Step outside gentleman. Square up. Prepare to fight. Keep it clean boys.......The fixtures1. Reformed Charismatic vs Reformed Cessationist2. Phil Johnson vs Michael Spencer3. Jollyblogger vs Blogotional4. Joe Carter vs Hugh Hewitt5. ESV vs NIV6. Adrian Warnock vs Tim ChalliesWho will be the winners......?------------------------------------------------------Stop reading now if you … [Read more...]

So much for diversity and convergence – Southern Baptists ban tongues

Just when I was begining to think convergence was possible on the charismatic debate the southern baptists IMB have taken a renegade step in my view. They have banned all future missionaries from speaking in tongues. In classical Christian hypocrisy they have decided not to make that ruling retrospective. Anyone currently serving as a missionary can still speak in tongues privately. I cannot see the logic of this decision. If tongues is not of God why permit existing missionaries to continue … [Read more...]