Arguing about the atonement

It seems that some peoples mechanistic idea of the trinity "It cannot be separated in any way" is behind at least part of the disagreement with penal substitution which is rampant these days. Spurgeon would have had exactly the same things to say about the people today who deny the plain teaching of scripture that Christ bore in his body the punishment due for our sin. And yes, Steve Chalke is among the number of those who deny this teaching (follow the link for more information) Last night I … [Read more...]

Spurgeon on substitutionary atonement

Anyone would think Spurgeon had met Steve Chalke It is amazing how our battle never changes throughout the centuries. PyroManiac has done us a great service by finding this fantastic quote which I stand behind 100%"Those who set aside the atonement as a satisfaction for sin also murder the doctrine of justification by faith. They must do so. There is a common element which is the essence of both doctrines; so that, if you deny the one, you destroy the other.Modern thought is nothing but an … [Read more...]

Lecture on atonement

A reader suggests this lecture on the atonement … [Read more...]

Schreiner on penal substitution

HT and Kudos to Bluefish and Reformation 21 Blog:In 2006 InterVarsity Press will publish a book containing Four Views on the Atonement, edited by James Beilby and Paul Eddy (both of Bethel College in St. Paul). The contributors will be Greg Boyd ("Christus Victor" view), Bruce Reichenbach ("Therapeutic" view), Joel Green (all views are equally true), and Thomas Schreiner ("Penal Substitutionary" view).Professor Schreiner recently gave his paper at the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. You … [Read more...]

More on the Atonement

In Reflections of the Times Carla has it dead right. There simply isn't a more important issue facing the church today than the atonement. It is absolutely critical that more of us examine this matter more fully and become clear about what we believe that bible says and why we believe that. Go and read her post and all those she links to right now! … [Read more...]

Theopedia an encyclopedia of Biblical Christianity

Theopedia is an explicitly Christian encyclopedia with 854 articles. It is an impressive feat already, but one of the strengths of this format is that you the reader can make it even better. So whether you want to find out what Penal Substitution is or whether you want to contribute your own writing to a growingly useful resource, why not follow the link and take a look around! … [Read more...]

Does penal substitution contribute to oppression?

I received this email today-I read with interest your article on Steve Chalke and The lost message of Jesus? posted on Sunday November the 21st 2004.I am currently doing a dissertation for my theology degree.....and came upon this article during some research. My dissertation is about the atonement theory and whether the theory of penal substitution is necessary to Christianity. You seem to feel extremely strongly that the idea that Jesus'? death as an atonement for our sins is essential to you … [Read more...]

"God is the gospel" by John Piper : book review

With this book Piper raises the bar. It is clearly his argument that Joy in God is the goal of the gospel itself. He really did mean it when he said the chief purpose of man is to glorify God BY enjoying him forever. Now, he makes plain that it is God himself who makes the gospel good news. Before we get into the review proper, why not Read the Introduction and Chapter 1Listen to the Audio introduction by John Piper Piper's book opens as follows:From the first sin in the Garden of Eden to the … [Read more...]

Piper on Baptism with the Holy Spirit

Piper back in 1984 said some remarkable things about the Holy Spirit. which I think are of great interest and are surprisingly consistent with the veiws on the Holy Spirit I have quoted and outlined previously. Saying things like this Piper could almost be confused for a member of the charismatic church I attendNow the positive thing I want to say about the moderate Pentecostal teaching (represented by the Bennets) is that it is right to stress the experiential reality of receiving the Spirit. … [Read more...]

The Baptism with the Holy Spirit as a distinct experience and speaking in tongues

Blogotional disagrees with my thoughts on the Holy Spirit:"Adrain does a wonderful job earlier in his post of defending his assertions scripturally, but here I see no such back up. Save for the the Acts account of Pentecost, I see no evidence of a conscious and separate experience marking receipt of the Holy Spirit. Further I see no evidence that such an event will 'usually' be accompanied with tongues or prophecy."As far as both points, I think a swift perusal of the use of the word Spirit in … [Read more...]