Strange Fire Debate stoked by Grace To You Internet Ministry Coordinator

Over on Twitter, and also in the comments section of my recent post about how Christians should behave online, someone who describes himself as a representative of Grace To You (although he has been in touch to make clear that his posts on Twitter are not in his official capacity) has been string up the embers of debate that I have left alone for weeks now.  This is far from over, however, and I see that many people are still reading, and writing about the debate even after all these … [Read more...]

“I’m not saying that everyone in the charismatic movement is not Christian” John MacArthur

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I am very keen to be fair to Dr John MacArthur. And so I want to acknowledge that in a recent Q and A online at GTY he states clearly that he does not believe all charismatics are unsaved. He claims he "never said that" though I have previously collected a bunch of quotes that do say precisely that. He doesn't regret or apologize for those quotes in this audio. I think that he tends to think of the Charismatic movement in the main as being unsaved, although he sees some exceptions to that rule. … [Read more...]

VIDEO: MacArthur consigns charismatics to hell and likens them to Mormons

I had only read a partial transcript of this portion of the Strange Fire conference before, as during the event I watched some sessions live and read transcripts of others. Someone recently sent me a link to this YouTube clip and I was again shocked and horrified. I really feel that more than almost anything else this clip demonstrates the reason for my concern about MacArthur's comments in the conference and book.I keep thinking I am done with all this, and then new things are said, or new … [Read more...]

John Piper responds to John MacArthur’s Strange Fire Conference

Just a couple of hours ago John Piper has posted the following to SoundCloud. Highlights below.Piper strongly affirms that he has benefited from MacArthur's ministry Piper confirms that he does indeed advocate obedience to 1 Corinthians 12:31, "earnestly desire the higher gifts," 1 Corinthians14:1, "earnestly desire the spiritual gifts, especially that you may prophesy," and 1 Corinthians 14:39, "earnestly desire to prophesy, and do not forbid speaking in tongues," and personally … [Read more...]

Are there apostles today?

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I am nearing the end of my series on Strange Fire.  It may feel interminable for some, but believe me when I get the bit between my teeth, sometimes I keep at it a lot longer than I will have done on this!Today I turn to an argument that MacArthur uses against the charismatic movement. He takes some of the odd things some people say and do about the idea of apostles today and rightly rejects that. But again he fails to interact with more responsible groups who do believe in apostles today. … [Read more...]

Healing Today

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MacArthur's argument against the gift of healing seen in his book Strange Fire is an interesting one to me. He seems to distinguish between the idea that God can and still does heal today in response to our prayers, and the concept of the gift of healing. (See James  5:14-15).He does this in several ways. Firstly, he believes that the "Gift" of healing was given exclusively to accredit the Apostles, something which as I said in a previous post, I just don't see as the case allowing for the … [Read more...]

John MacArthur tries to retreat from some of his most challenging language

Over at Tim Challies, MacArthur has been interviewed about the criticism that has surfaced of him following the Strange Fire conference.  This is interesting for two reasons. Firstly because of his brief summary of his case, and secondly for an attempt to rein in some of what to many of us seem like clear statements rejecting charismatics wholesale.Regarding the arguments he choses I thought I would briefly address them here:What are the gifts? MacArthur believes that the gifts of the Holy S … [Read more...]

How a generation of Evangelicals failed to colonise TV

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The Reformers commandeered  the printing press to great effect in the battle of ideas. In the past 20 years, Evangelicals have also invaded the Internet, publishing a multitude of gospel-centered blogs, sermons, and magazine sites. Unfortunately the generation that came before ours signally failed to colonise TV.I have now finished reading Strange Fire. I want to address the topic of what is on Christian TV before I get back to my series of posts aiming to counter each biblical argument (see … [Read more...]

Strange Fire: Can’t we just get along?

This morning we go into the second week of what has been a continuous run of blogging for me about the Strange Fire conference and book. I thought I would pause for a moment and outline again why I think this is so important, and why I have not finished yet!Firstly, there is the biblical question. I do passionately believe that cessationism is incorrect and rests on very flimsy Scriptural foundations. Today's extreme form of cessationism risks squandering the rich heritage of experiential … [Read more...]

Strange Fire: Every biblical argument refuted – Part Three

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The things I do for you, my reader.After finishing part two of this series in response to Strange Fire, I sat down to continue to hunt for more biblical arguments to refute. For page after page, instead I read salacious details about a string of scandals affecting mostly TV preachers. Most of these people I have never even listened to, and am only vaguely aware of. They really don't seem to be part of my corner of the charismatic movement. They don't speak at conferences I go to. Their books … [Read more...]


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