John Piper’s approach to charismatic abuses

Further to his previous comments on Strange Fire, John Piper has released two audio clips that speak about his response to charismatic abuses. You will enjoy these, I am sure. I know I did. … [Read more...]

“I’m not saying that everyone in the charismatic movement is not Christian” John MacArthur

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I am very keen to be fair to Dr John MacArthur. And so I want to acknowledge that in a recent Q and A online at GTY he states clearly that he does not believe all charismatics are unsaved. He claims he "never said that" though I have previously collected a bunch of quotes that do say precisely that. He doesn't regret or apologize for those quotes in this audio. I think that he tends to think of the Charismatic movement in the main as being unsaved, although he sees some exceptions to that rule. … [Read more...]

VIDEO: MacArthur consigns charismatics to hell and likens them to Mormons

I had only read a partial transcript of this portion of the Strange Fire conference before, as during the event I watched some sessions live and read transcripts of others. Someone recently sent me a link to this YouTube clip and I was again shocked and horrified. I really feel that more than almost anything else this clip demonstrates the reason for my concern about MacArthur's comments in the conference and book.I keep thinking I am done with all this, and then new things are said, or new … [Read more...]

Women in various religions

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This morning here at the Global Faith Forum there was a conversation between three women representing the three Abrahamic faiths. I have interweaved my notes of the session which had a lot of back and forth.The first woman was Dr Nia Mackay. She is a Muslim, and originally from Indonesia. She grew up in a family that encouraged children to think. and was taught that whatever you do should be for the love of God. She was shocked to hear that some women in Islamic countries were not allowed to … [Read more...]

A Muslim, a Christian, and a Jew walked into a church in Texas . . .

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I am here in Texas, in the heart of the Bible Belt. I have met here not just one Muslim, Christian and Jew but a number, and I believe there are Buddhists here also. The speaker list is quite impressive.I’ve already realized that this Global Faith Forum is going to be unlike any other event I have ever attended. I’ve had the pleasure of meeting some very interesting people already. These are just some of them:A Christian who is serving in Iraq to help in the provision of specialist hea … [Read more...]

John Piper responds to John MacArthur’s Strange Fire Conference

Just a couple of hours ago John Piper has posted the following to SoundCloud. Highlights below.Piper strongly affirms that he has benefited from MacArthur's ministry Piper confirms that he does indeed advocate obedience to 1 Corinthians 12:31, "earnestly desire the higher gifts," 1 Corinthians14:1, "earnestly desire the spiritual gifts, especially that you may prophesy," and 1 Corinthians 14:39, "earnestly desire to prophesy, and do not forbid speaking in tongues," and personally … [Read more...]

Are there apostles today?

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I am nearing the end of my series on Strange Fire.  It may feel interminable for some, but believe me when I get the bit between my teeth, sometimes I keep at it a lot longer than I will have done on this!Today I turn to an argument that MacArthur uses against the charismatic movement. He takes some of the odd things some people say and do about the idea of apostles today and rightly rejects that. But again he fails to interact with more responsible groups who do believe in apostles today. … [Read more...]

Healing Today

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MacArthur's argument against the gift of healing seen in his book Strange Fire is an interesting one to me. He seems to distinguish between the idea that God can and still does heal today in response to our prayers, and the concept of the gift of healing. (See James  5:14-15).He does this in several ways. Firstly, he believes that the "Gift" of healing was given exclusively to accredit the Apostles, something which as I said in a previous post, I just don't see as the case allowing for the … [Read more...]

John MacArthur tries to retreat from some of his most challenging language

Over at Tim Challies, MacArthur has been interviewed about the criticism that has surfaced of him following the Strange Fire conference.  This is interesting for two reasons. Firstly because of his brief summary of his case, and secondly for an attempt to rein in some of what to many of us seem like clear statements rejecting charismatics wholesale.Regarding the arguments he choses I thought I would briefly address them here:What are the gifts? MacArthur believes that the gifts of the Holy S … [Read more...]

See you in Texas? Come and join the global marketplace for Faith

The vision of Patheos.com who are kind enough to host this blog is to "host the conversation on faith." I outlined in my first ever post on the site why I was thrilled to join in. We really do live in a global village, and so it is vital that we learn how to really listen to each other, and show true respect.  Sometimes that mutual respect and understanding is absent in conversations even with those in our own faith (resisting the temptation to give an example...but regular readers will know … [Read more...]


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