links for 2006-04-12 Adrian and his Church (tags: blogsearch cool) Mark Driscoll Interview (tags: driscoll adrianw interview emerging church gospel evangelism mission) Adrian's Posts by Subject or Book of the Bible (tags: blogsearch cool) Mark Dever's "The Message of the Old Testament" Justin Taylor makes available the contents, foreward, introduction, and first chapter of Mark Dever's latest book, along with various endorsements. (tags: book dever taylor) Re-Igniting the … [Read more...]

When will we learn? My take on "The End of the Spear" controversy and Driscoll vs Maclaren

I was very sad to hear of the latest row that has been rocking the blogosphere.  Once again, Christians are giving ammunition to unbelievers who are only too eager to jump on unwise comments and over-the-top reactions.  I wish that I wasnt so embarrassed by the words and actions of some of the people who passionately believe the same gospel I do.  I wish that certain people would stop and think before they write the sort of throw away comment that can be said in a private … [Read more...]

Adrian Interviews Richard Cunningham, director of the UCCF

In todays blog interview Richard makes it very clear that as far as the UK's Christian Unions are concerned charismatics (especially from newfrontiers) are welcome but those who question the atonement ought to go elsewhere......Adrian: It is my pleasure to welcome to my blog today the Director of UCCF in the UK, Richard Cunningham. For my American readers, UCCF is equivalent to your Intervarsity Fellowship Richard, it is a pleasure to welcome you, please can you begin by telling us a bit about … [Read more...]

Arguing about the atonement

It seems that some peoples mechanistic idea of the trinity "It cannot be separated in any way" is behind at least part of the disagreement with penal substitution which is rampant these days. Spurgeon would have had exactly the same things to say about the people today who deny the plain teaching of scripture that Christ bore in his body the punishment due for our sin. And yes, Steve Chalke is among the number of those who deny this teaching (follow the link for more information) Last night I … [Read more...]

Spurgeon on substitutionary atonement

Anyone would think Spurgeon had met Steve Chalke It is amazing how our battle never changes throughout the centuries. PyroManiac has done us a great service by finding this fantastic quote which I stand behind 100%"Those who set aside the atonement as a satisfaction for sin also murder the doctrine of justification by faith. They must do so. There is a common element which is the essence of both doctrines; so that, if you deny the one, you destroy the other.Modern thought is nothing but an … [Read more...]

Does penal substitution contribute to oppression?

I received this email today-I read with interest your article on Steve Chalke and The lost message of Jesus? posted on Sunday November the 21st 2004.I am currently doing a dissertation for my theology degree.....and came upon this article during some research. My dissertation is about the atonement theory and whether the theory of penal substitution is necessary to Christianity. You seem to feel extremely strongly that the idea that Jesus'? death as an atonement for our sins is essential to you … [Read more...]

Evangelicalism RIP – killed by its friends?

Blogotional did a great job of bringing together my call for us to learn from any corner we can with pyromaniacs concerns about the decline of the concept of evangelical as in any way useful as a definition.One of the things that Phil and I spoke of minutes before the first london bombers was what we termed an evangelical war over doctrine which was being fought by theological 'terrorists'. Up till now I havent wanted to share that term as recent events made it seem inappropriate. Imagine my … [Read more...]

New perspectives on Paul and penal substitution- more audio

Listened to a great talk from Phil Johnson today. It covers N.T.Wright, New Perspectives on Paul, Steve Chalke and the atonement in a very helpful way. Phil has excelled himself and if you are looking for a critical review of Wright then look no further than this talk.Carson has also got some good messages on this subject online. … [Read more...]

What is Traditional Evangelical Thought?

Deep calls to Deep - A New Kind of Christian asks "How old does something? have to be to be considered traditional?......Traditions can be a few years old, as some of our family Christmas traditions are, such as opening stockings on the bed, or they can stretch back several thousand years. An awful lot of traditions that we hold to though simply stretch back a few generations or a few hundred years, but have become in the minds of us who hold them, truths for all time." So far, fair enough. I … [Read more...]

More on emergent church

Back last April Christianity Magazine did a good article critiquing the drive to close down congregations and replcace them with "emerging church" structures. They described Key Insights of the emergents many of which are valid, but they also listed concerns which could be aired. KEY INSIGHTS 1. That most churches have moved away from the pioneering spirit of the early church to be focused on set meetings. 2. Many Christians find commitment to church activities leaves no time or energy … [Read more...]