Fallible Prophecy?

JOLLYBLOGGER has a helpful contribution to our debate on the charismatic view of prophecy. He explains Grudem's view of NT prophecy and why he doesnt quite believe it. He concludes:"When we call something 'prophecy' that is really my own interpretation of some spontaneous impression we are giving a greater weight to that impression/interpretation than it can carry. The same applies when we use phrases like 'God told me.' Calling my own spontaneous (and subjective by the way) impressions … [Read more...]

Fallible Prophecy?

Postscript Posthaste: Fallible Prophecy?: "When I read this post by Adrian Warnock this morning, I just had to respond. Particularly because he has backed himself into such a corner, he's bound to come out the other side as either a cessationist himself or a very inconsistent charismatic (if he hasn't achieved that title already)."He then goes on to talk about scripture-forming prophecy and claim that because scripture-forming prophecy was infallible then all prophecy is infallible. Once … [Read more...]

The charismatic debate – are impressions prophecy?

In the ongoing charismatic debate JOLLYBLOGGER: speaks of the reformed doctrine of providence:"I think this speaks to charismatics and cessationists. To the charismatics it blurs the natural/supernatural distinction. In other words its not as if God is absent from the natural and present in the supernatural. God is present in everything. The fact that I just took a breath is an example of direct, divine activity. In other words, I am as dependent on the power of God to enable me to … [Read more...]

Charismatics, prophecy and healing

I hope that this latest charismata discussion will help us to correct misunderstandings. For example, Agent Tim thinks I believe tongues is a means of salvation- I have never said that and reject that notion totally! Also, unbelievably for me even after our debate of last year jollyblogger seems stuck with the idea that prophecy is about perfect revelations we cant question. How this fits with the biblical notion of NT prophecy as fallible to be "tested" and which gives incomplete knowledge I … [Read more...]

"Has God ever healed you?" and thoughts on my return

A blog is like a friend. Neglect it for a while, and you feel embarrassed mildly on your return. In my case the embarrassment is increased by a sense of having terribly failed the Christian community by breaking the unbroken chain of Christian Carnivals.I still cant get the carnival up as now the hundreds of emails I havent read have crashed my email program! Hopefully this string of computer issues is now almost over. I still dont have ASDL back up and running however. Imagine my surprise … [Read more...]

What would C H SPurgeon have made of charismatics?

Spurgeon is one of my heroes of the faith. He was probably the greatest English speaking preacher ever. If you don't have it already Ages software do a fantastic deal on a disk containing all of Spurgeons sermons for a ridiculously low price!Anyway back to our question- what would he have made of the charismatics ERIC HAYDEN replied by quoting a sermon entitled 'Receiving the Holy Ghost #1790 Vol 30, Year 1884, pg. 386, (Acts 19:2) and it is clear that the answer is not entirely … [Read more...]

Cessationists and hearing the voice of God

Jollyblogger has replied to my post with another on the will of God: Towards the end of an interesting and long post which also does a great job of listing other material on blogs on the subject he states"That's a long winded response and story. My guess is that Adrian and I are extremely close on this. I think the crux of the matter is 'what place does the subjective play in discerning the will of God?' We both agree that it plays a role, any differences we have is probably over degree. I … [Read more...]


The church- the temple, face and embrace of God I was reminded again this morning through a prophecy and through the worship of the centrality of the church. It is not just an organisation, it is not just a club. It really is the temple, the face and the embrace of God. What better thing to live to build than this? … [Read more...]