Susan Krummel, Candidate for Moderator of the Presbyterian Church (USA)

In an attempt to help folks get to know the candidates for Moderator of the 220th General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church (USA), I have asked the Moderatorial and Vice-Moderatorial Candidates a few questions. You can find links to all of their responses HERE and you can follow most of the candidates on Twitter HERE. Thanks for taking the time to read their responses and please feel free to share this with friends, leave a comment or ask a question.

CANDIDATE FOR MODERATOR
Susan Krummel – Teaching Elder, Great Rivers Presbytery
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A snippet from Susan’s responses in the 2012 Moderatorial Handbook:

When I was a girl I learned an important truth from my family, “What we are is God’s gift to us; what we make of ourselves is our gift to God.” This has always helped me to look at my life and see what gifts God has given me . . . I was born an organizer and have spoken publicly since I was very young. I was taught that nobody was better than me; and, conversely, that I am no better than anyone else. This has given me the courage required to walk into conflicted situations and help people address their issues as a leader in a presbytery.

Knowing that being Moderator/Vice-Moderator will require a great deal of time and energy from you and your community, why give in this way to the Presbyterian Church (USA)?

Perhaps every candidate who has stood for moderator has felt that the church was at a crossroads. From my vantage point as a presbytery leader, it certainly seems that way this year. Congregations continue to question their affiliation with the PCUSA. Others have so much anxiety that they are dissolving relationships with long-time pastors. Bringing my 32 years of ordained experience along with the two decades I have spent in presbytery leadership to the discussions at GA and beyond will be helpful to the church. When our presbytery’s commissioners to the last GA asked me to consider standing for moderator, I agreed. The presbytery has devised ways to free up my time so that I can respond to the obligations and invitations presented to a moderator and I am ready to fulfill the role.

I have always seen my ministry as a way to use gifts in service to the church. Preaching, leading groups, teaching and being honest about who we really are have proved to be the best assets that I have brought to pastoral ministry and presbytery leadership. I will find ways to use those gifts, if the GA sees fit to ask me to do so, as moderator over the next two years. The work of the moderator mirrors the work of a presbytery leader in many way–simply on a larger scale. My experience is another gift I can offer to the whole church.

If someone were to ask you, “Why should I bother going to church?” how would you respond?

This is a question that previous generations have not had to ask in the same we are asking it today. Previously in many places their culture expected them to be in church. It was seen as an asset for one’s profession to have the contacts one would make in a church; people who did not go to church were seen as not a real part of society; the culture provided all of the urging people needed. There was also no “down-side” to going to church. No one thought you were stupid or naive if you were seen exiting the church doors on Sunday morning.

Not so today. Even in the smallest of Midwestern communities, it has become counter-cultural to go to worship. Most people on any given Sunday morning are not at church and many of them think of those of us who are there as old-fashioned and, maybe, quaint.

Why go? What is offered uniquely in a communal experience of ourselves as forgiven sinners called to a new way of life? Being in flesh and blood relationships with other people who are experiencing the ebb and flow of the presence of God in their lives strengthens our own faith. Meeting Jesus in a way we meet him nowhere else at the table and font deepens our understanding of our need of salvation. Knowing that the Holy Spirit calls together this particular motley crew of people in order to witness to God’s love in Jesus Christ renews our sense of call. When our congregations find a way to renew their own sense of call to do these things, we have something important to offer to the world.

Choose one item of business or issue that will be coming up at General Assembly and share your perspective.

There are several recommendations that have to do with non-geographic presbyteries. I look forward to hearing the debate about this issue. One aspect of it that has given me pause is the real work that presbytery leaders do. It is true that some of what we currently do can be done across even greater distances than those now traveled by my colleagues and myself. (Just ask how many miles our cars have on them.) We are doing meetings by phone or other electronic means than may or may not involve a live person on a screen. It is not the same thing as having meetings where casual conversations can also occur, but that can be addressed.

What I wonder about are those times of trauma in the life of a pastor or a congregation when they need a real human being there. Often that person is the presbytery leader, the only person in most presbyteries whose job it is to show up at the fire or the deathbed or the session meeting when the pastor has betrayed trust. Imagining that this can be done by any other means than personally is like imagining that a pastor can make all hospital calls by Skype. If we end up with congregations whose affiliation and loyalty are lodged in a presbytery that is at some distance, I hope that we will find ways to meet the real pastoral needs now being met by the people with the high mileage on our cars.

What are a few things that most people would never guess about you: interests, adventures or . . .?

Writing a newsletter article or doing a Youtube video every week based on my experiences means that the members of my presbytery know a lot about me. However, some may not know that I have been a cheerleading “mom” for two decades. I am now the mom of the coach, but I have also spent my time in the trenches, even being the coach for one year while one daughter was in seventh grade. My fellow female band members (French Horn–eight years) from high school would be amazed along with me that I have accompanied my daughters over to the opposition–the cheerleaders! But, my daughters and their squads are true athletes. I respect them for their dedication to a sport that sees lots of injuries and where the athletes have no mouth guards or shoulder pads.

You also may not know that I am a “reading buddy” at a local elementary school. This year I worked with kindergarteners, most of whom had Spanish as their first language. I was helping them learn how to pronounce the names of letters and the sounds they make in English. I also snuck in a few fun books to read with them.

And, through my travel for the PCUSA and having grown up in a family that liked to travel, I have been to all but three of the fifty states–Oregon, Vermont and Alaska. Maybe in the next two years. . .

WILD CARD: Answer any question you want, one that someone has yet to ask or choose from some that have been asked here: http://bit.ly/KwiN07

There is a question on Bruce’s site about how to do evangelism in a post-modern world. I have heard stories from pastors lately about children who are in their buildings for programs but who do not know anything about the Christian story. If we believe, as Bruce has said, that we can “party like it is 1955″ we are dead wrong. Instead, we need to party like it is 155–a hundred years after the church started out. We need to assume that most of the people whom we meet have no deep experience of the reality of the life, death and resurrection of Jesus. Each person who has responded to God’s love in Jesus Christ in their own lives needs to be ready to tell that story. When someone at work says to you, “Didn’t you say that you go to the Presbyterian Church?” it is easy to say “yes.” But when the next question is “Why?” we need to be ready with an answer. That answer needs to be something more t han, “They have a great preschool there.” We should each be able to say how our lives have been changed because we have met Jesus Christ and that our church helps us to sustain our faith. Billboards, ads in the newspaper, even great websites will not evangelize if we ourselves cannot share the good news in a way that makes it clear that it is very real.

Thanks again to all of the candidates for being part of this process. While we obviously hold all of the candidates in prayer throughout this process, please be sure to pray for their communities of service, their families and all who are supporting them during this time.

For all of the candidates’ links and responses click HERE or go directly to the individual responses: Susan and JamesRandy and ShamaineRobert and HopeNeal and Tara

 

Robert Austell, Candidate for Moderator of the Presbyterian Church (USA)

In an attempt to help folks get to know the candidates for Moderator of the 220th General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church (USA), I have asked the Moderatorial and Vice-Moderatorial Candidates a few questions. You can find links to all of their responses HERE and you can follow most of the candidates on Twitter HERE. Thanks for taking the time to read their responses and please feel free to share this with friends, leave a comment or ask a question.

CANDIDATE FOR MODERATOR
Robert Austell – Teaching Elder, Charlotte Presbytery
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A snippet from Robert’s responses in the 2012 Moderatorial Handbook:

I am a “bi-lingual” GenX-postmodern, meaning I am equally as comfortable with modern and post-modern culture, having grown up on the front-end of a significant cultural shift . . . I am deeply a people-person, but also cherish solitude to recharge and renew.  I love technology, but as a tool rather than an end in itself.  I am a laid-back, type A person. What in the world does that mean, you ask? That means I am very administrative and organized, but don’t stress over disorganization or disorganized people.

Knowing that being Moderator/Vice-Moderator will require a great deal of time and energy from you and your community, why give in this way to the Presbyterian Church (USA)?

I believe God has called me to stand. I am blessed with a supportive family and congregation that see themselves as part of that calling. When I shared with the church elders, deacons, and staff, their first responses were about how they could fill in and carry on. For years, we have sought to be faithful with a little and have seen God open doors and call us (all) further out in service and witness. I am humbled by the confirmation of these dear ones around me as well as by the enthusiastic support of my presbytery.

Part of the ‘why’ also has to do with timing, gifting, and passion. I believe the PCUSA faces challenges and opportunities unique to this time and culture and that God has gifted, called, and impassioned me for those challenges and opportunities. For a number of years I have been working in my congregation and presbytery to draw our attention to the world God loves, and have found that to be a unifying and compelling vision. I understand that vision not to be the latest fad or plan, but the very heart of evangelism, witness, mission, and justice. I joyfully and passionately find myself running after Christ and, with others, being the Church in the world.

I believe we must lift our eyes and hearts beyond our walls and remember our first love and call to be winsome witnesses to the grace and mercy of God in and among the world God loves, and endeavor to encourage, inspire, equip, and accompany all I minister among in that journey.

If someone were to ask you, “Why should I bother going to church?” how would you respond?

I believe that all kinds of people (not just church-types or “Christians”) are interested in connecting with God. I think it’s something built into us, to long for something and someone much bigger and more lasting than ourselves. I’d like to invite you to come try church with me because I believe that you will find connection with God. I’m not saying that because we have the corner on truth, because we’re Presbyterians or because we teach some special brand of Christianity. I say that because I believe God wants to connect with you. The whole God-thing isn’t about being good, creating a good philosophy or religion, or attending a church obsessively. If the God described in the Bible is true, then God is not waiting around for us or hiding from us, but IS seeking us out in love.

At the church I am a part of we believe the Bible is God’s love-letter to the world and we get together to seek God around that message. And you know what? God shows up. It’s not mystical or spooky; there are no sparks or screaming people; there is no giant voice from the sky. But if you asked just about anyone who comes to our church, God is here. It’s a very special place full of very special people. We aren’t perfect – far from it. But we are all seeking the same thing – connection with a God whose story is one of loving and coming to us… all the way down to where we are. Look around some more… think about it… take a chance… come see us.

Check out some more thoughts here: bit.ly/gspcwhychurch

Choose one item of business or issue that will be coming up at General Assembly and share your perspective.

For sure there will be “hotter” issues coming before the General Assembly this summer, but I believe the most significant one will be the future unity and witness of the PCUSA.

Our institution is aging and showing it. We must be willing to flex, adapt, and learn. I commend the mid-council commission report as a START in this direction. I also commend the conversations among the NEXT conference and the Fellowship as twin stirrings about where the church could head. In each case, there is risk of being side-tracked.

Our community is fractured. We must graciously… graciously… seek healing or release-with-blessing. We cannot afford to cling, fight, or curse one another in this fractured state. I’ve helped author dismissal policies that seek either outcome, with our public witness to Christ as paramount. I urge the church to choose this route and not a more destructive path.

Our debate is polarized. I have modeled and will hold out theological friendships as an example of a way forward in Christ. Interestingly, my conversations in those contexts range deeper and wider than any pronouncements ever made at a microphone. In our efforts to boldly profess our Christian convictions, we too often exhibit far from Christ-like behavior. We can do better; we must do better.

The Church is not our own; may we be reminded of Whose we are and there find grace and vision for the future.

What are a few things that most people would never guess about you: interests, adventures or . . .?

I am a life-long musician (since age 4), but a kind of strange one. I’m not a performer. I CAN perform, but it’s not what fuels me. I like creating and I like helping others create. My dad taught me the “Boogie-Woogie” and how to improvise, and fourteen years of classical lessons and improvising in rock and jazz bands later, I went to Nashville as a session musician, learning to generate any style of music on demand. Along the way I picked up guitar, drums, bass, and audio engineering, and… a call to ministry. It’s made for an interesting mix and much soul and church-searching to find the right mix of ministry. But as much fun as music and recording and Nashville were, seminary and pastoral ministry were even better.

So, I’ve found two primary fits for music and ministry. One is in worship music. One of the biggest challenges in worship music (whether choral, praise team, instrumental, or in-between) is the struggle to turn the focus away from self. As one who is not a performer, writing and leading worship music has been a perfect fit because my very task is to direct people’s attention and worship Godward. Secondly, I’ve been able to use my gifts and resources to help younger (and sometimes older) amateur musicians record or flesh out musical ideas in a way that hopefully encourages and blesses them and those to whom they minister. Our congregation has turned into quite a creative hub as musical, then visual and dramatic arts have flourished.

WILD CARD: Answer any question you want, one that someone has yet to ask or choose from some that have been asked here: http://bit.ly/KwiN07

Claire Worthington asked specifically how I voted on NC Amendment 1. What is more pertinent to the PCUSA General Assembly is WHY I voted as I did.

NC Amendment 1 was not just about banning same-sex marriage, but defined marriage in the civil sphere and declared “marriage between one man and one woman the only domestic legal union that shall be valid or recognized in this state.” Public debate was heated, simplistic, and often unhelpful.

I’ve appealed for better communication for the sake of community here: bit.ly/KxyodG

This summer the PCUSA will be asked about a Christian definition of marriage. I do believe Christian marriage to be correctly defined as one man and one woman, covenanting before God and the church.

However, with NC Amd. 1 voters were asked how the STATE should view marriage and domestic union. I do not believe that the civil definition of all “domestic legal unions” must or should be restricted to that of one religious perspective. Further, I do think Christians have an obligation to bear witness to God through generosity and kindness in the public sphere rather than through imposition of Christian belief. To curtail legal and civil benefits to my neighbors for the sake of asserting a Christian definition of marriage was something I was not willing to do. Moreover, I am willing to explore supporting legal and civil benefits for my neighbors, recognizing that there is a difference between the spheres of church and state. I voted against the NC amendment.

Thanks again to all of the candidates for being part of this process. While we obviously hold all of the candidates in prayer throughout this process, please be sure to pray for their communities of service, their families and all who are supporting them during this time.

For all of the candidates’ links and responses click HERE or go directly to the individual responses:  Robert and HopeSusan and JamesRandy and Shamaine |Neal and Tara


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