Warning: You Might Lose IQ Points by Watching this MSNBC Clip

There are moments when you can just sit back and laugh at the lamestream media.

Here’s one.

Watch this fill-in MSNBC host try to accuse my mom of…  get this…  having a Christmas tree:

Can you believe that?  What’s next, MSNBC?  An investigative report on whether Mom has an Easter egg hunt on Easter?  (Gasp — she does!!)

I’m happy that channel is now so concerned with the Bible though.  But isn’t it amazing that the host believes there’s a passage in Jeremiah that is talking about CHRISTMAS trees?

That is soo funny.

Is that next to the verses in Lamentations about Rudolph?

Or the one in Leviticus about Frosty the Snowman?

It’s about the best example of Palin Derangement Syndrome I’ve seen lately: using an Old Testament Bible verse about idolatry to talk about a modern Christian tradition?  Newsflash, MSNBC: no one worships Christmas trees.  Not to mention Jesus was born hundreds of years after that passage was written.

Here’s the best response to this segment, taken from Adam Sandler’s movie Billy Madison:

(Dear Adam Sandler, sorry for comparing you to this.  I know your movies are much more accurate than anything shown on MSNBC.)

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  • bhhntr

    their entire lives and thought processes are deranged. they just change their targets hourly.

    • PaMaDu

      The Palin’s preach their belief’s all the time, yet don’t practice what they preach, they (Bristol and her mother) are some of the most judgemental people around…

      • Chris Freedom

        Sounds like you’re doing a little judging yourself, PaMaDu. The Palins express their religious and political beliefs, that’s not called judging: it’s called freedom of expression.

        • http://comedyplus.blogspot.com/ comedyplus

          Spot on Chris Freedom. :)

        • Guest

          They “don’t practice what they preach?” Are you joking? Be careful when using Scripture out of context to chastise people. The Scripture in Jeremiah is talking about worshiping graven images of false gods. It’s about cutting down a tree and carving it into a statue, calling it a god, adorning it with gold, then praying an worshiping the statue. That’s a far cry from a Christmas tree, dontchathink?

          • PaMaDu

            No joke at all, Palins take scripture out of context all the time to chastise people…

        • PaMaDu

          You’re entitled to your opinion, I’m entitled to disagree with it…

  • lbuzz

    MSNBC jeremiah 10 vs 10 is, but the lord is the true God,he is the living God…if you are going to quote the bible get it right.

    • PaMaDu

      It’s Jeremiah 10:2-4

  • Joy Evenson

    ha ha ha!!!!! Wow! Love the response from the Billy Madison movie! That lady, is so ridiculous in her statements!! She totally doesn’t get it and the funniest thing is that she seems SO proud of herself at the end of her commentary, like she just exposed some great tidbit of info on Sarah!!! How embarrassing for her..(the reporter)…

  • Michelle Smith

    Jeremiah 10:10

    New International Version (NIV)

    10 But the Lord is the true God;
    he is the living God, the eternal King.
    When he is angry, the earth trembles;
    the nations cannot endure his wrath.

    • Ron Bridges

      She sure couldn’t read the actual Jeremiah 10:10. That would have caused a meltdown in MSNBC land.

  • Keith M

    It is talking about in worshiping trees!

    • cheryl

      Very good Keith, you are the first to mention it.

      • Keith M

        Jeremiah 10:, Jeremiah is warning us against idolatry. Some translation don’t even use the word tree. It is making that are god, and when need to worship the true God.

        Circumcision is supposed to be a sign of God’s covenant with the people of Israel, but it has become a mark on the body that has little to no effect on how God’s people live. Now God speaks a rather shocking message. Judgment is coming on all nations—those inside and those outside the covenant—whose people are not distinguished by a mark that truly matters. God calls this judgment the circumcision of the heart—a strange phrase indeed. The difference is between the inside and the outside, the superficial and the real. God has had enough, the prophet says, of those who go through the motions, confident in their wisdom, strength, and wealth. God wants a people who are truly devoted to knowing and honoring Him.

        These words are directed at a nation that cannot remember the beauty and power of true worship; instead, her people are always drifting toward profane and useless practices that leave them empty and far from the God who loves them so. The warnings against idolatry, no matter how many times or how loudly they are offered, always seem to fall on deaf ears. But now the judgment is close at hand. The enemy first seen in Jeremiah’s visions is drawing closer. The dreaded hour of judgment is coming.

  • Randy Durant

    This mouthpiece that MSNBC dragged from the labor pool, is fat, dumb, and ugly. Your typical non contributor.

    • Robert

      Matthew 7:1-3

      King James Version (KJV)

      7 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

      2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

      3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

  • PaMaDu

    http://biblia.com/bible/niv2011/Jeremiah%2010.2%E2%80%934 Jeremiah does talk about them, Christmas trees are adorned in Silver and Gold and other colors….

  • Fung Law

    That’s why MSNBC loose rating with this bad comment just about the tree and the bible.I’m sure her family did the same thing when she young.
    Hay wish you and your MOM and the Palin family have a peace Holiday. from NY

    • PaMaDu

      OMG… This from someone who either can’t spell, or thinks it’s “cool” to misspell words on purpose, smh

      • Gene Smith

        Your stupidity is only outmatched by your ignorance. I assure you, Mr. Law speaks our language far better than you speak his. So, distract and deflect all you like, the point remains.

        • PaMaDu

          Whatever you say, Mr Smith, LOL

  • Michelle Smith

    Yes! Let’s be careful when quoting the Bible!

    Jeremiah 10:3

    New International Version (NIV)

    3 For the practices of the peoples are worthless;
    they cut a tree out of the forest,
    and a craftsman shapes it with his chisel.

    • Michelle Smith

      Now that we have that straightened out…….comedy still remains in the newsrooms! Sad that they have now become = to the National Enquirer!

  • Robert

    There are things known and there are things unknown, and in between are the doors of perception.
    Aldous Huxley

    Manipulators know how to tweak people’s minds into believing the perceptions instead of believing the things that are known.

    This goes with yesterday’s and today’s postings.

  • prncslea71

    i’m still trying to figure out where she was going with this segment. what was the point she was making? ummmm…yeah, i think i did lose a few I.Q. points. no problemo, i’ll read your mom’s book and get them back. :)

  • Lyn Parker

    The thing about the mainstream media is they don’t feel they are doing their jobs unless they make others look bad in the process. You, your mom and your family are right up there with the Robertson family in my book! We love you all and applaud your for standing and sharing your faith even in the face of adversity. You don’t have to fight your battles because the Lord will fight FOR you!! Have a very blessed New Year Palin family!!

  • Victor Ye

    Chopping down of the Christmas tree represents the death of Christ and putting it back up again represents the resurrection of Christ? From viewing this video I feel that the reporter is searching in any way to offend anyone’s Christmas believes like 99% of the leftwing media thus why BBC CBC are the best forms of factual news. The United States in my opinion is a Christian Nation and I will damn well ensure it stays that way. When I was a kid we could say Merry Christmas and the Pledge of the Allegiance and now we are shunned and persecuted if we do so. If we are in a free nation why are the extremest and minorities a.k.a atheists, Muslims, African American’s, and activists the only ones whom get those freedoms to speak out?
    THIS IS ONE NATION UNDER GOD and always will be.

  • Jon McCullough
  • http://www.mrltavern.com/ Mr.L

    Is this crazy MSNBC broad trying to suggest that Christians worship trees? I am a non practicing Catholic, but I consider myself Christian first and foremost. I’ve
    never prayed to a tree in my life. I never knew anyone who prayed to a
    tree in my life. I never knew anyone who thought that Christians prayed
    to trees. The only people who worship and pray to trees are liberals. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygY57FdRcr0

    • Chris Freedom

      She sounds like she was smoking “trees” before she went on the air. I’m amazed that MSNBC has any viewers at all. Who actually listens to the nonsense they put out?

      • Jerry Lee

        It works for Fox News…

  • Becky Eassey

    This woman doesn’t even read the Bible correctly. This is Jeremiah 10:10 “But the Lord is the true God, he is the living God, and an everlasting king: at his wrath the earth shall tremble, and the nations shall not be able to abide his indignation.”

  • cheryl

    Those people [for lack of a better word] are pitiful. Grabbing at straws. I expect those of religious sects to tout such garbage against a traditional Christmas tree, but these kooks. Must have had someone up all night to find that scripture, so they could misquote it. Too funny, by the way where is poor little Ed? It was his show. I guess when a network is at the bottom of the ratings list, they also have to scrape the bottom of the barrel for trash to throw at a good woman. Shame on NBC, for being party to such trash.

  • JJ McCartney

    That MSNBC piece was RACIST!!!! A black woman hating on Palin and her family for their family values at Christmas…has GOT to be racist! That black gal is a mad, raving racist!!!

    As a Caucasian American, I take offense to this MSNBC reporter, who clearly is attacking our heritage, dating back thousands of years, as far back as when our people were slaves to a Pharoah. HOW DARE SHE?

    Worthless racist network. MSNBC stands for More Snobs Needing Brains Critically!!!

    • PaMaDu

      LMFAO!!! You are HILARIOUS, James Jones….spell check please, and take a chill pill for gods sake…

      • Megan-Elizabeth

        I see someone has their candy coated panties in a wad. Why don’t you take a chill pill? Oh I forgot…liberals are so *sensitive*. 😀

        • PaMaDu

          Your ignorance is showing….

          • Gene Smith

            Interesting choice of word for you to use.

          • PaMaDu

            I’m SO glad you think so, Mr. Smith…you made my day, thank you!!

      • Gene Smith

        For someone who knows neither the proper use of ellipses, or the ability to properly place an apostrophe to show possession, you are certainly quick to judge others’ grammar and spelling.

        • PaMaDu

          Ok, Mr. Smith, LOL

  • sadlyso

    Never mind racist, the amazing this is, she rambled about Bible without any KNOWLEDGE of what she was rambling about. First, she quoted the wrong verse and than assuming that Jeremiah was talking about Christmas tree. How stupid is that, Dose being racist and dump met the qualifications and standards to work as a propaganda mouth piece at MSNBC?

  • Kat Lee

    This was pure hate and bigotry. Shame on the (clear my throat) “Journalist” that was in this clip. She, as she has read the bible also knows that Satan quoted the bible also, Matthew 4:6, When Jesus was in the desert, the Devil also had a ugly motive as he hated Jesus almost as much as this women seems to hates Ms. Palin. His motive was to ruin someone namely Jesus. I guess that puts Ms. Palin in good company. So as Jesus said to Peter in Matthew 16:23, when Peter allowed his words to be used by the enemy. “Get thee behind me Satan” …..See I’m getting pretty good at this too. We can make a game of this. Your turn……

  • Deborah Woolley

    She’s no “journalist” that’s for sure! Sarah Palin and her family have more class than this “want to be”. Your EXACTLY right Kat Lee! Loved your comment!

  • Sue Lynn

    Yeah I have never seen anyone bow down and worship a Christmas tree …lol . Great come back Bristol!

  • Kat Lee

    Seriously though there are two scriptures that this Professed women of the word should be aware of….

    Luke 6:31-36
    31 Do to others as you would have them do to you. 32 “If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even ‘sinners’ love those who love them. 33 And if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even ‘sinners’ do that. 34 And if you lend to those from whom you expect repayment, what credit is that to you? Even ‘sinners’ lend to ‘sinners,’ expecting to be repaid in full. 35 But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. 36 Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful.
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    Matthew 7:1-2 ESV / 3 helpful votes

    “Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you.

  • Joseph Ritter

    I love that clip from Billy Madison, lol! On a side note, fart on MSNBC!

  • Mark_Trail

    The LSM are a propaganda tool of socialists, who need to replace God with the state. Their whole purpose is deceive people into not loving God and their neighbor. They misquote God’s Word so you may be found guilty of deceiving your neighbor. They bear false witness against their neighbor.

  • Peter Fodera

    Learn the difference between the Old Covenant FULFILLED and now SUPERSEDED by the New Covenant inaugurated by the crucifixion, death and resurrection of Jesus the CHRIST, whose birthday we celebrate at CHRISTmas.

    The Old Covenant Temples required that lots of trees be cut down! Bazinga!

  • Brenda Needham Mclean

    Obama has a Christmas Tree, stupid MSNBC!

    • sodakhic

      it’s not Allahmas.

      • Ave Ashley Victoria E

        Christmas means – Christian Celebrated Holiday and always has been dummy – Christianity ..

        Historical facts actually support it ..
        Christmas is celebrated differently by others that aren’t Christian as simply another holiday were a tree is decorated and presents are received and given out, it has been commercialized and falsified and isn’t tolerated as being MY SAVIORS BIRTH !! AND A CHRISTIAN HOLIDAY

        It means differently to everyone, but most like me who are Christian, it’s MY Holiday,
        It’s a Celebration of Christianity surviving the worldly shit and paganism that is wide spread from nation to nation by all Gentiles and Heathens of this world ,…

        It’s also very much celebrated differently in Christian families then secular families …

        Thank you for your ignorance but your wrong,
        Also the piece of shit Obama can go to Hell, after what he’s done to my people and also Israel & her leaders etc, He doesn’t care and he doesn’t respect anyone that is not of his party etc.

        He never respect anyone and never has that is Conservative, Christian, Hunter, Gun Owner, Patriot, Libertarian, Tea Party Support, etc.

        He slanders us, he allows false truths and hateful label’s to continue about us .. Bnmy your full of crap …

        • PaMaDu

          It isn’t “YOUR HOLIDAY” at all….it’s a day you celebrate according to your beliefs, but you can’t have it both ways, it can’t be YOUR HOLIDAY, and Jesus’ day…

      • just the facts

        You are so ignorant. Whether or not Christmas means different things to different people doesn’t change the fact that the reason we ever celebrated Christmas was to celebrate the birth of Christ. ANy kid who went to Catechism could have told you that, presents not withstanding.

        • PaMaDu

          I went to catechism, and was taught that too, until I realized what bs, it was…

    • nomomoney

      I doubt he even believes in Christ….He also says Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas…..

      • PaMaDu

        Again… AND?!

        • nomomoney

          AND WHAT?!!!!

    • PaMaDu

      And?! LOL….

      • PaMaDu

        LMAO!!! Oh Thomas… Boy, I hope you weren’t named after St. Thomas…from the Bible….

  • dizymeup

    Does anyone really watch that crappy channel …..MSNothingButCrap.

  • Mark_Trail

    The sad fact is, the producers of these so-called “News” programs look for “reporters” of this caliber. They can be found in great abundance, coming out of “Black Studies” and “Wymin’s Studies,” and even, sadly “Religion Studies” programs of most any university today. Reports like this one are perfectly suited to gather the “low-hanging fruit” of those who have “itching ears,” seeking to find reasons to despise their neighbors. Universities are the incubators of atheists. The Father of Atheists is the “unknown god,” whom many worship in ignorance.

  • mommalion

    Hilarious! Thanks for the laugh Bristol!

    • PaMaDu

      Bristol and the Quitter, Sarah, are a joke, THAT is true…

  • Kristen Mayeaux

    So ridiculous. I can’t believe they have nothing else to report.

  • Thomas Petrik

    What the Fu@k was her point

    • PaMaDu

      Read the history of the story, then you will know… It’s in response to Palins book about Christmas she was touting in March…

      • Thomas Petrik

        I know but her big slam is that according to the bible a Christmas tree isn’t good or evil.

  • Freda Caldwell Skaggs

    I don’t know what Bible she’s reading from but in my KJV bible Jeremiah 10:10 reads “But the Lord is the true God, he is the living God, and an everlasting king: at his wrath the earth shall tremble, and the nations shall not be able to abide his indignation.” Boy, that lady must be drinking some heavy KOOLAID! Besides they didn’t have Christmas trees back then…

    • PaMaDu

      Oh yes, because it’s so much easier to “chastise” the reporter out of hate and ignorance than to just look up the verse she was actually talking about and go from there….

      • Megan-Elizabeth

        No one on MSNBC is worth the energy of trying to chastise, I occasionally watch to get a good laugh at their shoddy attempts at journalism and their desperate attempts to defend this incompetent, corrupt administration.

    • Ave Ashley Victoria E

      Thank god you noticed it … :)
      I wrote..like a whole essay on the correct scripture they were supposed to be quoting from which was Jeremiah 10:2-4 not Jeremiah 10:10 –

      Also the translated news medias coverage and quote of the scripture was completely inaccurate, not to mention your right on about Christmas Trees, which never originated from America, it originated 2,000 years in Christian Germany- And 2,000 years after Jeremiah’s words were where stated, which have nothing to do with Christmas trees, but “wooden idols”, what else are you going to “hammer down with “nails” to keep from “tottering” …

      Also the first Christmas tree was the “Paradise Tree” which held hanging apples from it, which represent’s the Tree of Life in the Garden of Eden …

      The modern day Christmas tree wasn’t invented or recognized until the Sixteenth Century …

  • C-Harmon

    Typical leftist. Has no CLUE what the bible says or what it means.
    What a waste of air – they report on Fox news???
    Can’t they find their own news???

  • C-Harmon

    More Stupid Nonsensical Bs Comments.

  • Lorie Colee

    What a bunch of idiot democrats. Lets visit your house at Christmas. What do u worship at Christmas? Obama????

    • PaMaDu

      I don’t worship anything at Christmas. The real meaning behind Christmas wasn’t baby Jesus, that’s for sure. That is what the stories of the Bible say, not what history shows…

      • just the facts

        That’s exactly what Christmas is all about. The fact that the date of Roman celebrations was chosen as the date of celebration to make it more palatable to pagans doesn’t obviate that. It was never about the pagan aspects. It was always about celebrating the birth of Christ, not matter now many erroneous beliefs about the manger and the wise men developed.

      • PaMaDu

        Oh so, thanks for confirming the phrase, “Jesus is the reason for the season” is a farce 😉

        • PaMaDu

          Doesn’t burn my as at all, just shows how idiotic and hypocritical some “self proclaimed alleged Christians, lovers and followers of Jesus Christ” really are… How pathetic…

          • PaMaDu

            Yes, alleged, because you proclaim to be a follower of Christ yet you speak with a forked tongue….

          • PaMaDu

            Oh, but I do understand the expression, maybe YOU should study what it means, or recall what your “babtist” upbringing taught you about it, oh but wait, you got away from that, so perhaps you’ve forgotten….

          • PaMaDu

            Oh what a likely excuse for your bad behavior… Because you “fall short every day” crap… So now you resort to threats, huh? LMAO…. Another psycho….

          • PaMaDu

            Right, ms. “Grew up babtist” LOL

      • PaMaDu

        Speaking of being a “dumbass and idiot”, what the hell is a “babtist?” Btw…
        “Tara Pierson Ryan • 2 months ago
        Absolutely! I am Christian but I do not practice any ‘religion’. I am non-denominational. I grew up Babtist but have become disillusioned with all the ‘doctrines of man’ so a few years ago I removed myself and my daughter from church. I still believe Jesus to be my Saviour. I still hold true to his teachings (somedays better than others) and I still worship God. Just not in the usual places. :-)…”

        • PaMaDu

          Um, YOU are the one that wrote the quote above… Again, yes, what is a “babtist?” You stated you grew up up “babtist” and I’m asking what it is… Does your oh so Christian, aka “Christ like” response mean you don’t know? You’re the one who wrote it, yet you call me the idiot… Oh the irony…

          • PaMaDu

            BABTIST is a Christian denomination?? REALLY?! LMAO!!!!! I know there are all kinds of religious denominations, but BABTIST isn’t one of them! LMAO, oh the ignorance of your posts, LMAO

          • PaMaDu

            You’re just sport, that’s all, spewing your ill will and hate all over, trying to preach about God and Christ and whatever else…yet not knowing that you couldn’t even tell me what BABTIST is, until you probably googled it… You’re hilarious!!!! Thanks for playing…

        • PaMaDu

          What is a babtist? You still haven’t answered…

    • PaMaDu

      Excellent, Lorie!

    • just the facts

      “I don’t think anyone ever celebrates the Presidency at Christmas , do they?” That’s just stupid.

  • PaMaDu

    It’s always been that any news source that doesn’t jive with the Palin spewage is “lame stream”

    • franky4770

      Has nothing to do with Palin.

      • PaMaDu

        And?

        • franky4770

          And it has nothing to do with Palin

          • PaMaDu

            Anytime a news source doesn’t agree with whatever Palin spews, she refers to them as “lame stream media…”

  • MouseFanSal

    Just saying Thank you to everyone who keeps it positive and tasteful even when emotions run high. I’ve never really seen a democrat, especially Anonymous on the internet, be able to do that. It brings me humor when I see a commenter write pure trash and hateful words, acting like they’re on some high road. All they have is their propaganda and purposefully distorted rhetoric. Oh and toss in some lies.

    They demean, slander, and distort. They act like they’re pros in every area of life and look down on anyone who admittedly has no experience in something. That is truly a good description of a, internet liberal troll.

    I think people here like the Palins because they’re real, there’s no facade, there’s no “we’re better.” There’s no waste. The kids are responsible and appropriately defend their family when critics’ ugliness takes over. I’ve never seen any of them act like victims even when the kids (KIDS!) had ridiculously contrived slander spread about them. Unlike many actual celebs or wannabes, they value private living and keep most things that way. Sure they know they have supporters and a picture will be shared occasionally.

    Such good people with good attitudes. The future generation are blessed . Trig is a blessed boy to be with his parents and siblings, and Tripp is equally blessed in being raised by an amazing mommy and in his lifelong companionship with Trig.

    • Jean_A

      Why do you only have 3 comments? Go away you complete nutjob.

    • Jean_A

      Who are you talking about?

  • MouseFanSal

    Let’s not attack any one belief system.

    • PaMaDu

      lmao, really?

  • just the facts

    And just what is the lie?

  • just the facts

    Since it started. Notice the NBC in it’s name?

    • franky4770

      They are not a news channel that is for sure. Making up news does not qualify for a news channel

      • franky4770

        Nope, MSNBC

  • just the facts

    Yes it does. But for a Christian it means the birth of Christ no matter how distorted the meaning has become..

  • http://FREEMERICA.US Freemerica

    Good for you Bristol. Stand up and tell it like it is. MSNBC you have proven over and over (and over) again, that you have less credibility & integrity than Pravda did during the height of the cold war.

  • franky4770

    I saw the whole thing and not sure where you think the lie is .

    • franky4770

      Actually I did watch it and I don’t worship anybody.God you people are twisted.

      • franky4770

        Obviously you didn’t watch it . You seem to be a very sad person.

      • Jean_A

        You watched the video and you still follow the sheep over the cliff. Twisted!

    • Jean_A

      You are a hateful lunatic.

  • franky4770

    Actually it has nothing to do with Palin. They make up lies and pass it as truth.

    • franky4770

      No, MSNBC

  • PaMaDu
  • PaMaDu

    THANK YOU…

  • PaMaDu
  • franky4770

    Your comment lacks any sense

  • franky4770

    You are a fool

  • Guest

    I’ve read several comments below badmouthing Sarah Palin for stating that Christmas is about Christ and instead these people say she is wrong for doing that because Christmas means different things to different people. Are you kidding me? Christmas is the Celebration of the Birth of Jesus Christ, the Son of God, of Nazereth. Period. And unlike Obama, I mean Period. And no it is not some pagan holiday dressed in Christian clothing. The date was chosen by the first church, decades before the Roman Empire made it ‘official’. So yes, Christmas is about Christ. Thank you Sarah and Bristol. Hey if it means nothing more to you than food, family, friends and gifts that’s great. More power to you. But don’t you Dare try to tell Me that My Savior has nothing to do with My Christian Holiday that only exists to mark the birth of the Greatest Man that Ever Lived. Thank You. Oh and that passage has nothing to do with Christmas Trees. Duh… It is speaking of people cutting down trees to carve images/idols to worship. Get a Grip! Thank you. I feel better now. :-)

  • franky4770

    Bullshit

  • Beth Dominy

    Hey Redmeat you’re a damn idiot

  • Jean_A

    Don’t worry, you will still get your free phone and food stamps.

    • PaMaDu

      Huh? “Jean_A Guest, too.
      7 minutes ago

      Don’t worry, your will still get your free phone and food stamps.”

      • PaMaDu

        Thanks for clarifying :-)

      • Jean_A

        I mean you and your ignorant sheep followers.

  • Jean_A

    The only person claiming Christian/Christmas purity is Reid. The loon is just reading what is on her teleprompter. She doesn’t have a clue about what she’s reading. She has a lot in common with the Liar in the WH. Just feed me the teleprompter.

  • PaMaDu

    This book is akin to Palin telling the rest of the world how to believe, celebrate, etc. it’s HER shoving HER beliefs down our throats…http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/2856318

    • Jean_A

      OH please! Nobody here reads anything from the HUFFNUTPOST.

      • PaMaDu

        Some of you don’t read ANYTHING from anywhere…

        • Jean_A

          I am reading what you just wrote.

          • PaMaDu

            And ignorantly replied, because you failed to read the article…. Oh well…

          • Jean_A

            I was kicked off of HuffNutPost because they didn’t like hearing a different point of view. It was their way or the highway.

          • PaMaDu

            LMAO, well, it probably had more to do with HOW you typed your responses, not so much what you typed. I’ve disagreed with their articles and have never been kicked off…

          • Jean_A

            Come on! Read the comments that are posted on a Palin related story at HuffNutPost.

          • Ave Ashley Victoria E

            ahaha that’s because your a liberal – anti-christian supporter .. duh your not a vocalizing an intelligent position …
            or specifically a Christian or Conservative presenting a completely opposing view of their liberal position and articles …

          • PaMaDu

            wtf? Do u even read what you spew? The hypocrisy in your posts is astounding, great fodder…. :-)

    • Megan-Elizabeth

      Only a fool would trust Huffington Post as a legitimate news source, but wait a minute….we’re talking about people who fell for lines like “hope and change”. If I can compare Obama’s “disciples” to anything, it would be the Jonestown cult.

    • Ave Ashley Victoria E

      It’s her freely presenting her beliefs, and not shoving it down like your 20+ complaining complements but insults against anyone who supports her and Christianity on here ..

      Take your anti-Christian beliefs a go some where else ..

      I don’t shove my views on anyone, being asked or being a public leader does not result in taking away or rebuking ones freedoms to express religion or faith.. Your to stupid to understand laws and the Constitution ..

      Your forgetting Palin has every right to make a book on her beliefs, faith and values, it’s only forced when it’s at Gun point like Muslims do to “infidels” like “me and you” “idiot” …

      It’s YOU that is making it a problem, it’s YOU that has free will to “ignore her”, it’s YOU that doesn’t have to buy her book and read it ..

      So the only person here that is making a big deal about Christians, Christianity and Palin’s “freedom to express her views” is still YOU …

      Do you get it Yet!, she is freely NOT SHOVING HER VIEWS ON YOU !!!

  • climate3

    Bristol, I laugh at the so-called “lamestream media” every time they attempt to make us believe that any words coming out of your mouth is worth repeating. You are not profound, nor intelligent. You are merely a young lady ripping off of her mother’s fame. A low-budget Paris Hilton if you will.

    • Jean_A

      Right back at you. Bristol is laughing at you.

      • PaMaDu

        Bristol probably doesn’t even READ the responses, personally, just like she more than likely doesn’t write her own blog…

        • Ave Ashley Victoria E

          Some people are actually intelligent enough to read others comments about them and or right their own post,
          Bristol is smart enough to do so, and some people unlike most Liberal celebrities and politicians actually do independently do adult things on their own .. .

          Apparently, Assumptions and Opinion’s are “Facts” to you …

          • PaMaDu

            Yeah, ok….sure….

    • PaMaDu

      Right on!!!!

  • Windell Jones

    Doesn`t say anywhere in the bible about a Christmas tree or anything even close.

  • Puro Pets

    WOW! “Stupid”now has a new meaning…MSNBC!

  • Puro Pets

    I love Tripp’s quote Bristol! From the mouth of babes…to bad more adults aren’t that honest!

  • PaMaDu

    I just saw in an email, Thomas Cake’s comment to me! Thank you, moderator or whomever it was that’s got my back :-) MUCH appreciated!

  • PaMaDu

    And?! Yes, you visited my page as well I see, how that works? And yes, Brandi is a bully, as you are, birds of a feather….

  • Jean_A

    What does this have to do with the story posted on this blog?

    • PaMaDu

      It looks like someone is having a temper tantrum. It has nothing to do with the subject matter, really, just a angry poster having a tantrum

  • PaMaDu

    The difference is, I’m not claiming to have been raised a denomination that didn’t exist…

    • PaMaDu

      Not turned out at all, you’re the one calling names and insisted you grew up babtist, LOL

  • AbdullahtheButcher

    Jeremiah 10 and Christmas Trees

    Christians opposed to Christmas have often argued that Jeremiah condemns Christmas trees. They believe that Jeremiah 10:2-4 is quite plain — Christmas trees are sinful. But are these Christmas critics correct? Does Jeremiah 10:2-4 actually condemn the setting up of Christmas trees?

    The King James Version reads: “Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen…. For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.” On the surface it does seem that Jeremiah is describing Christmas trees. But let’s look deeper .

    An important key to understanding any passage is to pay careful attention to its context. Verses 2 through 4 of Jeremiah 10 are part of a larger context. That larger context is verses 1 through 16. In these verses Jeremiah proclaims the Lord as the only God. “No one is like you, O Lord; you are great, and your name is mighty in power. Who should not revere you, O King of the nations? This is your due…. The Lord is the true God; he is the living God, the eternal King…. God made the earth by his power; he founded the world by his wisdom and stretched out the heavens by his understanding” (verses 6-7, 10, 12, NIV).

    The gods that pagans worship are nothing compared to the Lord. “These gods, who did not make the heavens and the earth, will perish from the earth and from under the heavens” (verse 11). They are mere images made by men and women. “Every goldsmith is shamed by his idols. His images are a fraud; they have no breath in them. They are worthless, the objects of mockery” (verses 14-15).

    Gold is not the only substance used to make idols. Verses 8 and 9 speak of “worthless wooden idols” on which workmen place hammered silver and gold, and rich apparel. When we consider that these verses condemn idolatry, we can understand what Jeremiah meant when he said “the customs of the peoples are worthless” (verse 3). No wonder he tells us not to “learn the way of the nations” (verse 2).

    Turning to translations other than the King James also helps our understanding. Where the King James reads “one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe” (verse 3), the New International Version says “they cut a tree out of the forest, and a craftsman shapes it with his chisel.” The tool referred to in the passage is not a woodsman’s tool, but that of a wood carver. Most modern English translations agree with the NIV.

    Jeremiah is not condemning Christmas trees. He is condemning idolatry. The trees in Jeremiah 10 are cut down to carve them into worthless idols that will later be decorated with gold and silver. Jeremiah says nothing about Christmas trees. That custom originated in northern Europe, not in ancient Judea.

    BTW, Mr. Obama and Michelle have a Christmas Tree as well. Do you complain about that?

  • Jordann Morse

    It really erks me when people whom do not live by the bibles word or even believe in the bible, try and ‘preach’ the good word.. Do not preach to me, for I am already aware of what His words are! Drives me. Keep on doing what you’re doing Palins. For He knows your heart & will bless you for it.

  • James Isaacs

    Way to go Bristol, way to punk the weak, I can’t see why they would be that stupid and put something like this on the air, maybe we need to read their bible, keep your hand out and you will recieve.. Man this only makes me want to never leave Alaska

  • Kevin Barrett

    Dumb….With a capital “D”

    • STFUTWIT

      That’s the Ed Show for ya…….

  • $84717604

    Happy Birthday Tripp! Will we be seeing pictures?

    • PaMaDu

      I hope Levi Got to spend time with him for his birthday, well

      • Beaverton

        I don’t know if Levi got to spend time with Tripp on his birthday or not but he and his family certainly had a wonderful time with Tripp around Christmas. Sunny has posted some adorable pictures & a video on her Facebook page showing how happy they all were to be together to celebrate the season. Such a warm & loving environment for Levi’s son to be a part of. Let’s hope Bristol acknowledges how important it is that Tripp is exposed to his father’s love and parental guidance and agrees to joint custody.

        • PaMaDu

          I agree! I saw those pics and videos! 😉

        • Jean_A

          It is so nice of Levi to take time to spend that one or two days with Tripp so he can load up with the camera and pics. We all know how that works. Where was Levi the first 4 years? I forgot he was writing a book and making lots of money trashing the Palin family. That is all out there for Tripp to see one day. What happen to all of Levi’s money?

          We all know why Levi wants joint custody and it has nothing to do with a fathers’ love or parental guidance.

          • Beaverton

            The fact is, Jean, that Levi has always wanted Tripp in his life but it was Bristol who continually made that impossible. You do know, don’t you, that Levi is asking for joint custody, so your snide and nasty remarks as to his commitment to his son’s welfare just shows how much the Palin propaganda machine can brain wash those who are so blinded by their worship of this very flawed family that they buy into all the lies and innuendo they put forth. Educate yourself!

          • Jean_A

            I know it is always the woman’s fault.

            Bristol told Levi to dump her so he could go out there and make lots of money trashing her family because we all know Hollywood would have paid him lots of money for saying nice things about the Palins. WE all know Bristol told Levi to say all those disgusting lying things about her family. What happen to all of Lev’s money?

            It’s documented how much Levi wanted his son in his life. Educate yourself!

            Levi wants joint custody for one reason and one reason only and that is so he won’t have to pay child support.

          • PaMaDu

            such an ignorant response. SHE is the one that dumped him. Do your research. why do you care what happened to all his money? how does it affect you? he is now working, has a steady job, has a beautiful wife and baby girl, and supports his family. Bristol accused levi of being a celebrity whore, well, HE is living a low key life, and SHE is the one who’s been out in celebrity-dum, and continues to be. Since WHEN does joint custody equate NO child support?? JFC, GET A GRIP woman, and educate yourself….

          • PaMaDu

            THANK YOU!

          • PaMaDu

            and it’s out there that Sarah and Bristol did nothing but bash Levi, calling him a deadbeat dad. It’s well known that Levi has ALWAYS wanted to be a part of his son’s life, but has not been allowed to be. the Palin girls, Sarah and Bristol, play the Parental alienation card to a perfect T….one day, that will back fire on their asses…

  • Megan-Elizabeth

    Just hearing any Liberal talk makes anyone lose IQ points. I loved how Bristol humiliated that guy at the bar in California. They don’t call it land of fruits flakes and nuts for nothing.

    • PaMaDu

      Oh real humiliation… She needed to get her ass kicked, entitled little self righteous snot that she is….

      • Michael Cummings

        God bless you Bristol.
        Proud Mary.
        Good mother.
        Yes ma’am (the closest common term I know to attribute you to divinity).
        I will share my original post…

        Sick
        Bristol is a mother
        What makes you so entitled to pass such a harsh judgement?
        And for what reason could she deserve to be hurt?
        I think the democratic hate machine should find something more positive to focus on.
        Like maybe instilling that change and hope for change
        Who is intolerable?

        • Ave Ashley Victoria E

          Someone who’s more intelligent than, stuck up atheist trash – “PaMaDu” .. :)

          • PaMaDu

            Who said I was an atheist? LOL… Apparently you think assumptions are facts, silly you…

          • Michael Cummings

            You keep telling us you aren’t Christian. And attack us for believing you aren’t Christian (even Jesus doesn’t like hypocrisy). Get a JOB. Don’t be so bitter to exercise your wrath here please. This is family chat.

            1) not christ-like (hypocrisy).
            2) does what she wants but incapable of love or being led by Christ.
            3) atheists said there is no Christ in Christmas and you are going to be so irrational to tell us that is truth.
            lmao, apparently my opinion does matter since you’ve replied to MANY of my comments this far. Um, did you say you’re a “Christian” too?! Thanks for proving my point on how totally irrational you so called “Christ like” wanna be Christians can be….

            LMAO!! thank you doctor… What’s your point? I can and do post what I like, thank you very much…

            DUMB, Atheists have a right to express their opinions as well, and it seems some people had no problem with it, and said Christmas was a pagan holiday and had really nothing to do with Christ. Also, that silly blonde girl who said it was mean, also said “People come to NY to celebrate “the holidays” she didn’t say people went there to celebrate “Christmas”

          • PaMaDu

            No where did I say I wasn’t Christian…family chat? LMAO, you’re kidding, right?! Or maybe that’s how many right wing “Christian families” talk to each other, LMAO, surely you jest…

      • STFUTWIT

        Sounds as if you has experience in the self entitled brat department……just saying LMMFAO!!!!!!!!

        • PaMaDu

          Oh, hahahaha ooohahahaha, OMG, that was so hilarious!!!! Take your comedy on the road, STFUTWIT, you’d do great!!!

          • STFUTWIT

            And the shoe fit huh…..and have a cup of STFU btw….oh, enjoy the image….

          • STFUTWIT

            LMMFAO!!!!! Don’t quit your day job….

          • STFUTWIT

            WOW…kettle calling the pot black…..and btw, this is NOT a racial slur….before you ram your foot further down your throat….so, sniveling about insults is all you’ve got??? LMMFAO…..you REALLY ARE confused….if you can’t take the heat…..get the hell out of the kitchen…..bit of a modern proverb for ya….now go whine and snivel with your DNC morons…..

      • Megan-Elizabeth

        She was minding her own business. So some liberal punk at a bar spots her and decides to pick a fight, embarrassing himself. Why does a 40 year old man need to prove something to a 20 year old girl? What a little man he was and she proved it.

        • Jerry Lee

          Filming a TV show in a bar crowded with strangers is not “minding her own business”. Calling a man sitting at the bar next to the obnoxious jerk his “boyfriend” is not minding her own business, it’s a little girl spewing a mindless stereotype. No wonder she left town shortly thereafter.

    • Jean_A

      The only people talking about purity are liberals.

      • PaMaDu

        no, your Goddess, Sarah Palin started with her book…

        • Jean_A

          What is wrong with saying Merry Christmas?

          • PaMaDu

            who said anything was wrong with it? ignorance is bliss in your world, isnt it? LOL

          • Jean_A

            Merry Christmas!

          • PaMaDu

            Merry Christmas to you too, even though Christmas was a few days ago…

          • Ave Ashley Victoria E

            Harassment and ignorant bliss fits in with yours also..

            You have no concept of what it means to walk in my world and see through my eyes, you only know how to “Judge” and “Condemn” ..

            You’ve made a pre-assumption and conclusion of how you see us, you label and categorize ignorantly like the rest of the secular people that attack us, and you only know what you’ve been told or seen, your complacent in your position, you are so closed -minded it’s unreal ..

            You are a hypocrite … Ignorance is universal, you are not all knowing and not perfect, you think a Christian is ignorant, you are also, and Christian’s aren’t ignorant because we value Faith in our Creator, and live a more honest and loving lifestyle .. or follow scripture ..

            We are Free to do so, just as much as you freely mock it and dehumanize it …

          • PaMaDu

            Lmao! You are HILARIOUS in your responses, trying to sound educated, informative and non judgmental, however, your posts are dumb, you’re totally judgmental, and you just “sound” like a fool, LOL WOW…

  • PaMaDu
  • PaMaDu

    Forever the jokester she is, even though she, Sarah Palin, tries NOT to be, LMAO….http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/11/sarah-palin-war-christmas-book-good-tidings-great-joy.html

    • PaMaDu

      Don’t forget to click on the decorations! LOL…

      • agkcrbs

        PaMaDu, what is forcing you into this ugliness? Is it a hobby? Loose wires? There’s no universal law that you MUST listen to that mischievous voice in your head telling you to keep spitting venom, acting like a mule, and spamming this board with Palin-jealousy and non-funny laughter. You can choose to stop, you know. You’re certainly not hurting the Palins.

        • PaMaDu

          LMAO!! thank you doctor… What’s your point? I can and do post what I like, thank you very much…

        • franky4770

          Exactly, jealousy is the main word

          • PaMaDu

            Jealousy? Of the Palins? Jealousy of what? LOL

  • Jean_A

    The Atheist Christmas Billboard

    An electronic billboard advertisement by American Atheists in New York City, that seeks to deter people from including Christ in their Christmas celebrations, has been getting a lot press lately. We wanted to know what New Yorkers thought of the ad. MRCTV traveled to the Big Apple to ask people about the atheists anti-Christian message and whether they thought we should take the “Christ” out of Christmas.

    http://www.cnsnews.com/video/cnsnews/atheist-christmas-billboard

    • PaMaDu

      DUMB, Atheists have a right to express their opinions as well, and it seems some people had no problem with it, and said Christmas was a pagan holiday and had really nothing to do with Christ. Also, that silly blonde girl who said it was mean, also said “People come to NY to celebrate “the holidays” she didn’t say people went there to celebrate “Christmas”

      • Ave Ashley Victoria E

        Why don’t you shut the hell up, and no I’m not going to look at your comment when I’m very intelligent and have studied every culture, religion, and holiday in America, your full of crap, so screw off ..

        Blah blah to you … Dumb Atheist need to fk off and leave MY people alone …
        If you think I’ll allow you to silence me or take my freedoms,
        their is a war coming and I will fight …

        Your opinion’s are not facts related to scripture and history, they are inaccurate, I don’t listen to people like you who mock others that you disagree with .. including me .. you have nothing intelligent to say …

        Sarah Palin is more of a Honest Christian women then any other political figure out or from the liberal, democratic side and even on the right side of republican and conservatism …

        I will never support those that cross a line with slandering and attacking my Christian holidays and my Faith or my Christian people …

        That’s called unconstitutional and discrimination .,…
        It’s against everything America was built on and everything of America and Freedom represents….

        Christmas is NOT Pagan … Halloween is and Easter … Easter has been mixed in by the Catholic church while trying to assimilate and convert Pagans etc..

        The Resurrection of Christ is separate from the Holiday of Easter .. .
        Maybe you need to be educated, because I studied this sense I was 10 years old, I’m very self taught and independent ..

        I only look for truths and facts not others interpretations or opinion’s to justify something …

        Dumb Atheists can burn for all I care, they express and receive and get what they want everytime a Christian expresses their view publicly, anytime a Christian symbol of something is publicly displayed they are constantly out their trying to destroy it ..

        I have no mercy and sympathy for “Free” American Atheist, while my Christian people are murdered, killed and threatened in Muslim / Middle Eastern Countries and Communist Countries are not freely able to exercise their Faith and are attacked constantly like this on my AMERICAN SOIL …

        Your opinion does not matter at all … Bye :)

        • garylongmont

          You emulate Jesus so well.

          • PaMaDu

            Right?! LOL seems to be a pattern….

        • PaMaDu

          lmao, apparently my opinion does matter since you’ve replied to MANY of my comments thus far. Um, did you say you’re a “Christian” too?! Thanks for proving my point on how totally irrational you so called “Christ like” wanna be Christians can be….

        • Sseason

          If you are so “intelligent,” you would know not to use “your” when you mean “you’re.”It’s THERE is a war coming, not THEIR. .If you had even read a chapter on “cultures , religions and holidays,” you wouldn’t sound like a slow witted third grader. Watch out gullible easy manipulated one. “They” are gonna come snatch away your “freedoms.” My God! The ungarnished ignorance that attaches itself to these grifters. You meant WOMAN, not WOMEN.Sigh.

          • Ave Ashley Victoria E

            I’m NOT easily manipulated at all, I’m extremely self-taught and independent, and know I’m not perfect with spelling and grammar, all the time, unlike you I’m perfectly fine with making mistakes, I just don’t attack other’s for doing so, I’m not the grammar police either, that dumb shit gets tiring after awhile, I could care less what you think ..

            I type fast, I don’t always re-read everything either, the only thing you can do is be nasty over imperfection, your superficial, unlike me, and yes I am intelligent and never easily manipulated, unlike you, if you knew me, I make my own decisions and no one else tells me what to do …
            I answer to no one but Christ …

            You must get off at attacking others, when their views are still understandable,I have better English and social communication then most people my age, I may not write it always “perfect”, but at least you can understand me ..

          • Sseason

            Barely. If it is your goal on any level to be taken seriously, you must learn the English language. There is NOTHING in your writing or your reasoning that would indicate to anybody but yourself that you are intelligent. When one really IS intelligent, there is no need for her to point it out–over and over. It’s obvious. Sweetie, when one follows , arguably the dumbest politician ever to get close to the presidency, and extols her as some kind of role model, that person is,by default, NOT intelligent. How silly and shallow and in need of a leader you are. Sad.

          • Jerry Lee

            Ave said: “I answer to no one but Christ …”
            It’s a shame he can’t comment here and tell you how rude you are, Ave.

          • Ave Ashley Victoria E

            My leader is God, my values are Christian and Conservative, I value and support those that have liked minded beliefs, I don’t stoop so low, like you do and superficially attack others on there mistakes and imperfections, no one is perfect, I’m very well educated, but I’m not all knowing, unlike you, who think’s your so ridiculously superior in knowledge, and party, how ignorant and sick can you get …

            I need a leader because we all need someone who is capable of standing up for others, I just don’t rely “ever” on Human’s to do so, but if I have to choose someone it will be in a Political Party “I choose” because I can and will stand for someone I support and agree with ..

            Unlike you I don’t bash other’s or become “hostile” until someone insult’s and attacks my views, or so cowardly point’s out every grammatical error verses pointing out why or why not my views are wrong or right etc..

            You have no argument against me … You merely no how to attack, I’m not perfect and I’m not going to be, I’m not going to just accept or bow down because the rest do so, I’m very capable of making my own decision’s and I do …

            I don’t know how I making so many mistakes when you clearly can reply back and understand what I’m saying, obviously I understand the English language enough for you to comprehend me, so from were I’m standing, your words are meaningless and waste, I’m not going to listen to someone like you …

            Lol – why wouldn’t Bristol NOT follow her mother and support her whether she’s wrong or right,
            Liberal’s and Democratic children do all the time,
            you are so stupid … This is common sense, most people follow in the foot step’s of what they were raised with -depending.

            You change like a chameleon, when another party has different views than you and children support and publicly uphold the views they are raised with, you have a problem with it, but when it’s someone like you, it’s somehow right and normal, people like me call you closed minded and fake, you only “tolerate” or “accept” those that follow and believe the same “as YOU”, you cannot comprehend the concept of “true equality” were everybody is entitled to believe in what they want and freely express their beliefs, this is why I’m no longer talking to you, you avoid anything I have pointed out and switch to a complete topic, you have also very low standards …

            I refuse to associate with someone that cannot have a civilized conversation with and ungodly focus on someone mistakes … I do not “ever” do that to others..

        • Jerry Lee

          “Why don’t you shut the hell up”
          “Dumb Atheist need to fk off”
          “Dumb Atheists can burn for all I care”
          “I have no mercy and sympathy for “Free” American Atheist”

          Ave, you’re very intolerant and unforgiving. Your God does not appreciate your hateful comments.

  • Jean_A

    Sarah Palin: Here’s yet another example of why I wrote “Good Tidings and Great Joy.” A national humanist organization (read: Angry Atheists Armed with an Attorney – with a Scrooge Complex!) threatened to sue a school because students participated in Franklin Graham’s Samaritan’s Purse’s “Operation Christmas Child,” a beautiful program that distributes gifts for children in need. (My family has been honored to work in this worthy cause with the Grahams, including their mission’s work in Haiti). It’s appalling that ANYONE would be so cold hearted as to object to such a merciful program that gives Christmas gifts to poor kids. But this is what we’re up against, friends! Thank goodness good folks in Colorado wouldn’t back down to this bullying tactic aimed at small schools that don’t have enough financial resources for defense in a legal battle. Parents and students creatively defied the atheist Scrooges by holding their Operation Christmas Child gift box collection just right outside on a public sidewalk outside school grounds where their rights were protected. Go Colorado! Scrooges: put that in your pipe…

    Here’s the article about this: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/11/21/kids-parents-fight-back-after-humanist-group-threatens-another-school-over/

    • Jean_A

      And what is food stamps, free phones, and welfare checks trying to do?

      • Jerry Lee

        Food stamps and welfare checks help those who are less fortunate get by. The myth about free phones for welfare recipients was debunked several years ago.
        http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/cellphone.asp

        • Jean_A

          There is an ad on TV telling you how to apply for your free phone.

          • Jerry Lee

            Every cell phone prover has a deal for a free phone. Duh. Given your mindset, Jean, I’m sure you were referring to the “free welfare phone”.

          • Jean_A

            It has nothing to do with cell phone provider. It has to do with the federal government.

          • Jerry Lee

            No, it doesn’t, Jean. you’ve been reading too much propaganda on Conservative blogs. Here’s the link again, please read it:
            http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/cellphone.asp

          • Jean_A

            Yes it does so deal with it.

          • Jerry Lee

            I did deal with it, Jean, I gave you a link that debunks the myth, and you ignored it.

          • Jean_A

            What is this universal service charge for?

          • Jerry Lee

            I don’t know, ask the service provider :-)

          • Jean_A

            It is for free phones.

          • Jerry Lee

            Jean, please read this, start to finish.
            http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/cellphone.asp

          • Jean_A

            Jerry, It is for free phones.

          • Jerry Lee

            Read the article, Jeanius.

          • PaMaDu

            LMAO….

          • Jerry Lee

            Here’s a quote from the article, Jeanius: “The Lifeline program only covers monthly discounts on landline or wireless telephone service for eligible consumers. It does not pay cellular companies to provide free cell phones to consumers, although some cellular service providers choose to offer that benefit to their Lifeline customers.”

            Also: “The Lifeline program is not directly subsidized by taxpayer monies.”
            http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/cellphone.asp

          • PaMaDu
          • PaMaDu
          • Jean_A

            So you have no problem with welfare, food stamps, unemployment extended over and over again, free cell phones for the poor but you have a problem with Samaritan Purse helping the poor?

          • PaMaDu

            there’s that Patent answer, “Yes it does so deal with it” LMAO…

          • Jerry Lee

            It’s barely funny anymore, just sad. “I’m right, so deal with it”.

          • PaMaDu

            I’m only eligible for a “free phone” when my contract is up (after 2 yrs) and I decide to take the phone that is offered for “free”

        • nomomoney

          Jerry, you are dumber than I thought. Did you read the message yourself. We, as taxpayers pay for the cell phones. and it’s not for just welfare recipients. Anybody can get one if they want to lie. They don’t check up to see if you are eligible. Why would they? These phone companies are making a killing. They give you 250 minutes free and then you can pay for extra, which they do. This ridiculous service casts us taxpayers 2 millions dollars a month. Some “recipients” braged on face book that they had 12 free phones.. (they are suppose to have 1 per family…. Just another fraud going on in this administration. Which is why Obama got a second term…….

          • Jerry Lee

            “Jerry, you are dumber than I thought.”
            Thank you for your rational discourse, nomomoney. I’m going to enjoy making you look stupid.

            “We, as taxpayers pay for the cell phones.”
            ’tis YOU who didn’t read the article: “The Lifeline program is not directly subsidized by taxpayer monies. It is paid for out of the federal Universal Service Fund (USF) through a fee assessed against telecommunications service providers…”

            “Anybody can get one if they want to lie.”
            Anybody can get almost ANYTHING if they’re willing to lie. Or cheat, or steal. Duh.

            “They don’t check up to see if you are eligible.”
            Yes they do. How else would they know if you “have an income that is at or below 135% of the federal Poverty Guidelines, or take part in at least one of the following federal assistance programs:” then 12 programs are listed.

            “Which is why Obama got a second term…….”
            He was elected legally by a majority of the voters. Twice. Get over it.

          • PaMaDu

            WAY TO GO, Jerry!

          • PaMaDu

            I have the LifeLine program, and I don’t lie to get it…I provide what I need to, to qualify. honesty is the best policy…

          • nomomoney

            On your best day , You couldn’t make me look stupid…. No, we can’t lie to get everything. MOST things are checked on to make sure you are eligible. I have known people who need to be on disability and couldn’t, people who need food stamps but couldn’t get them, because they had to show their w-2 forms. I couldn’t get a drivers license because I didn’t have my SC card, even though I knew my number… and had to go back home and get it….Anybody can get a phone just by saying they are on SSI or something. They don’t get checked….I know!!! Yes there were plenty of FRAUD in the last election. Dead people were voting, Some bragged on facebook that they voted as many times as they could. If you don’t mind paying for these free phones go ahead , but myself I grudge every penny of my tax money that goes for that. A phone is not a necessity….You can live without one. I did for years….PERIOD…

          • Jerry Lee

            “On your best day , You couldn’t make me look stupid”
            I just did, and will again, with very little effort, nomomoney.

            “MOST things are checked on to make sure you are eligible.”
            Thanks for agreeing with me.

            “Anybody can get a phone just by saying they are on SSI or something.”
            Wrong. People need to “have an income that is at or below 135% of the federal Poverty Guidelines, or take part in at least one of the following federal assistance programs:” then 12 programs are listed. They prove it but showing government documentation that they’re on those programs, and tax returns.

            “Some bragged on facebook…”
            And you believed it?? You’re very gullible.

            “If you don’t mind paying for these free phones go ahead , but myself I grudge every penny of my tax money that goes for that.”
            Read the article again, nomobrains: “The Lifeline program is not directly subsidized by taxpayer monies.”

            “You can live without one. I did for years….”
            You must be referring to your brain and common sense.

          • PaMaDu

            “Some bragged on facebook…”

            And you believed it?? You’re very gullible.

            LMAO…reminds me of that commercial, “everything is true in the internet…”

          • Jerry Lee

            Everybody brags on facebook, don’t they?

          • PaMaDu

            I thought so…hell, I tell the good, the bad, and the ugly, sometimes., LOL

          • PaMaDu

            @disqus_kaPDWbuWOG:disqus, to quote a fave line from the movie Sandlot, “You’re killing me, Smalls!” LMAO…btw, I just learned how to tag in a reply! WOO HOO! 😉

          • nomomoney

            You just made yourself look stupid… I don’t post things I don’t check first…MORON Yes MOST things are checked on except Free Cell Phones…. I said I know because I know someone who got one and never was checked on. She kept it for a few months and then called Safe link to turn it off . They tried for 15 minutes to convince her to keep it…. Yes I believe that some people voted numerous times because it was reported on tv that 130% of some precincts voters showed up to vote.. Now for idiots like you that means that more people voted than was registered….The lifeline program is not paid for by taxpayers??????.. This is the DUMBEST thing you have said… Where else does the government get their money. They don’t always call it taxes but it is taxes. Some people , you just can’t tell them anything because it’s above their educational level. So Jerry Bob don’t bother me …..MORON…

          • Jerry Lee

            Don’t bother you? You’re the lummox who replied to me first.
            “The lifeline program is not paid for by taxpayers.. This is the DUMBEST thing you have said… Where else does the government get their money.”

            Let’s try this again, nomobrains:
            “The Lifeline program is not directly subsidized by taxpayer monies. It is paid for out of the federal Universal Service Fund (USF) through a fee assessed against telecommunications service providers, who may or may not pass those costs along to their customers”.

            Got it now, halfwit? If you had clicked the link to the Snopes article, you wouldn’t look like a numbskull right now. Your skeezy gf was either a scam artist or a liar. Here’s a link to another article that you and your doofus friends can also ignore: http://tinyurl.com/6pchxb5

          • nomomoney

            I’m not wasting anymore time on you ..But for the record, where do you think that bill on your telephone bill comes from…I pay universal service fund every month..and I am not a provider of cell phones, so therefore it is a tax… US TAXPAYERS who have to pay for their own telephones pay for the free ones… Did you think that for one moment that the telephone providers don’t pass the tax along to the customers…I know you are a DUMBASS DEMOCRAT and don’t know any better so I only hope I educated you a little bit… You need to read first before you run off at the mouth… I read the snopes article but you must not have… My skeezy is a 67 year old senior and didn’t know she was not eligible. They didn’t ask her any questions and when somebody told her she turned it off… Honest wasn’t she….Go back to the hills Jerry bob

          • Jerry Lee

            nomobrains- If you read the article as you claim, then you’d know that the phones aren’t free unless the cellular service providers choose to offer that benefit.

            If you weren’t dragging your knuckles and clicked on the USF link in the article, you would see that the federal Universal Service Fund (USF) funds four different programs, all of which help provide discounts on telecommunications services, and improved health care in rural areas.
            http://www.fcc.gov/guides/universal-service-support-mechanisms

            You didn’t waste your time here, nomointelligence, I gave you a lot of very useful information. You’re welcome.

          • nomomoney

            Sorry I can’t fix stupid…. STUPID

          • Jerry Lee

            nomobrains – you might be able to fix your own stupidity by not being so close-minded and do some research on sites that aren’t biased toward your narrow viewpoint. I gave you three links, and if you bothered to read the articles, you certainly couldn’t comprehend what you read.

            If you went to the FCC page, it clearly states: “All telecommunications service providers and certain other providers of telecommunications must contribute to the federal USF…” and “The FCC does not require this charge [Universal Service Fund] to be passed on to customers. Each company makes a business decision about whether and how to assess charges to recover its Universal Service costs.”

            Let me spell it out for you, nomosense- it’s a CHARGE, not a tax, that your service provider is allowed to pass on to you the consumer, at their own discretion.

          • nomomoney

            Call it what you want. They had a special investigation one night on tv and they told all about the free phones.and how much it was costing the American taxpayer. …End of story.noodle brain.

          • Jerry Lee

            nomobrains- Who is “they”? Was it a Fox “News” expose? Or was it Blaze TV? That seems to be your level. The terms are very clearly written on the FCC page I linked to.
            http://www.fcc.gov/guides/universal-service-support-mechanisms

            One last time for you, oh great Sultan Of Stupidity: the government CHARGES the service provider, who decides whether or not to CHARGE the consumer the same amount.

            Is that clear, Mr. Mayor of Simpleton? Oh no, you’ve been demoted to the Village Idiot of Halfwitville!

          • nomomoney

            Just when I thought You were at you worst level of stupidity, you came back with more…Listen Lamebrain ,if you want to live in Obama’s little bubble and worship him go ahead, but for me and my house we will worship God…. and give the devil his due…No it wasn’t Fox tv . I think it was 60 minutes….If you are dumb enough to think we taxpayers are not paying for the free phones, I bet you still believe in the Easter Bunny , tooth Fairy and Santa Claus… Get your head out of the sand and go suck your thumb… Now I know how Obama got in the White House. I think people should have to pass an IQ test in order to vote. That would keep out the morons and dipsticks… MORON

          • Jerry Lee

            nomobrains- I thought you were done with me five comments ago? You must be a masochist, to go along with being a chowderhead. I just did a search on “60 Minutes” site and there are no reports for “free cell phones”. Again, the phones aren’t free unless the company providing them decides not to charge for them. The way consumers pay is if the service provider decides to charge their customers the USF fee. It’s NOT a tax, as the FCC article you didn’t read clearly stated. The Easter Bunny and Santa Claus are as much a fantasy as your reading comprehension.

            One last thing- you’re the guy who believes what he reads on facebook, remember? How dumb is that?

          • Guest

            Why don’t you just record that FCC article. I read it I don’t believe it. I do believe the news on television when they say Americans pay for the free phones. Anytime you pay out money and don’t get anything for it ,then it is a tax. Maybe you think all that money from China Obama keeps borrowing to pay for all these services comes from the tooth fairy and we will not have to pay it back. It must be awful lonesome up there in space where your brain is suppose to be… But I bet it’s nice dreaming that

          • nomomoney

            Why don’t you just record that FCC message. I read it I don’t believe it. I do believe the news on television.when they say Americans pay for the free phones.I think they said 2 million a month…. Anytime you pay money and don’t get anything in return, then that’a a tax. And it goes to the government to pay for somebody else’s welfare…That’s Obama’s sharing the wealth… If you can’t afford a phone you should not have a cell phone….Maybe you think all that money Obama keeps borrowing from China comes from the tooth fairy. We don’t have to pay it back… It must be awful lonesome up there in all that space where your brain is suppose to be. I saw on one of your posts ,masterminded by you , you said” you’re always calling people names”… Boy aint that ironic, since you’ve been doing the same thing, MORON Can you get much dumber?

          • Jerry Lee

            nomobrains- I though you were done 6 comments ago? I can’t record it, it’s printed on a web site, duh. Well, at least you read it, it’s a shame you’re too closed-minded to believe it. Duh. Obama? The program was started by Reagan. Duh. I never would have called you a name or insulted you if your very first sentence to me hadn’t been an insult. Duh.

          • Glenn Hester

            Jerry… where to they get those funds from… USF… well guess where those funds come from… all those fees that are on your phone bill…. follow the money jerry….

          • nomomoney

            That’s when everybody jumped on the bandwagon…He made sure of that. Just like the welfare bandwagon exploded….Which explains the 17 trillion dollar debt….

          • Jerry Lee

            It must be nice to have such a very, very simple outlook on the economic situation, nomobrains.

          • nomomoney

            Everybody has a bad outlook thanks to Obummer. Just hope we can survive 3 more years, or Congress does their job and impeaches him as should be the case…MORON

          • Jerry Lee

            I have a good outook, mainly because I ignore most of what the Conservatives, the Tea Baggers, and Fox “News” have to say.

          • Glenn Hester

            you forgot to add that it cost us $6.4b….

          • nomomoney

            Thank you, Glenn, it’s nice to see a comment from someone who is NOT a Moron……Yes , they had a special on tv about how much it costs taxpayers …..

        • Glenn Hester

          you know that Snopes is a lefty website that is 100% funded by Soros… like I would believe anything they say…. hahaha…

      • Ave Ashley Victoria E

        No it’s separation of Church and Government to keep one or thee other from becoming to power etc,

        Example –
        Middle Eastern Countries : Muslim Religion rules in Government … – Christian’s are murder ( beheaded and tortured, raped even)
        in Middle Eastern countries and even in Peaceful Israel, Jews and Christians are attacked by Muslims that claim to be accepting and peaceful …

        North Korea & China: Communism and Socialism rules – No Religious Freedom, Christian’s are killed or imprisoned for having youth group’s of 20-30+ people ..
        Welcome to my world …

        You don’t read and study the Constitution like I do ..

        You have no concept of what are “Christian Founding Fathers” intentions were, you live in America, in still what is consider the Freest Nation on Earth, you are right now free to express yourself even more so that I am, being that I’m Christian.. you are so ignorant of the pain my people suffer …

        The constitution protect’s any religion or Faith including Christians, that mean’s I’m free to Publicly, Socially and any other mean ‘s to express my Faith, interfering with that is unconstitutional and that’s infringing on my Faith and Religious Freedoms,

        I can sue for that !

        In this country you dummy, we have laws that protect everyone, when they are used properly they can make a peaceful society, “With differentiating opinions and views etc. ” :and Tolerance”, not “forced or fake Acceptance” …

        Unfortunately it’s not like that for Christian’s and Conservatives like me …

        My freedoms and voice is always silenced by another in Laws passed and other actions, because they are merely offended by my views .. That is called not “Tolerance” nor “Acceptance” …

        Yet everyone demands and asks that I willingly “accept” not “tolerate” another’s views I disagree with ..

        Before you make a comment, contemplate on this, put yourself or try to put yourself in my shoes … and understand what it means to be silenced or ignored because you believe simply different than another ..

        Don’t reply back to me if you have nothing mature and intelligent to say …

    • nomomoney

      How is giving gifts to children going to convert them to be Christians.Most of the gifts contain toothbrushes, soap, and, washcloths school supplies and sometimes a pair of shoes, Things that other children already have,… I admire Franklin Graham for doing this every year….

      • nomomoney

        Mine didn’t… unless you call ” I love you ” a religious message…..

        • Jerry Lee

          My children’s did.

        • nomomoney

          No I gave one!

          • nomomoney

            I took it to my church wrapped and sealed. Just the way they told us to….

          • PaMaDu

            Ive never heard of Samaritans purse, but I’m actually surprised something like this would take a wrapped gift. usually, places like this, want unwrapped gifts, I thought…

  • PaMaDu

    lmao, yeah, ok… Whatever you say…

  • PaMaDu
    • PaMaDu

      I thought so too…

  • PaMaDu
    • Michael Cummings

      Romans (14) 1. Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations. 2. For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs. 3. Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him. 4. Who art thou that judgest another man’s servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. 5. One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. 6. He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks. 7. For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself. 8. For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord’s. 9. For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living. 10. But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. 11. For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God. 12. So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God. 13. Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother’s way. 14. I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean. 15. But if thy brother be grieved with thy meat, now walkest thou not charitably. Destroy not him with thy meat, for whom Christ died. 16. Let not then your good be evil spoken of: 17. For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost. 18. For he that in these things serveth Christ is acceptable to God, and approved of men. 19. Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things wherewith one may edify another. 20. For meat destroy not the work of God. All things indeed are pure; but it is evil for that man who eateth with offence. 21. It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak. 22. Hast thou faith? have it to thyself before God. Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth. 23. And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.

      • PaMaDu

        Yawn…you need to be preaching to your “Christian” friends on here, not to me…your friends, the so called Christ like Christian ones, the ones who are nothing more than wolves in sheeps clothing, have posted the most vile stuff towards me and others on here, so preach to them about how they need Jesus… Me and Jesus and my relationship with HIM are just fine, thanks! :-)

      • Ave Ashley Victoria E

        Like she even reads this let alone believes it, and yet attacks other Christian’s who read the Bible daily and stand with Conservatives and Christians like Palin, are you really that stupid …

        • Jerry Lee

          More name calling from Ave, tsk tsk. Ave, have you been out drinking? Upset because the Cowboys lost?

          • Ave Ashley Victoria E

            Really, I don’t drink thank’s … name calling, like you don’t wow .. your so mature ….

            I don’t watch sports, to busy reading the Constitution , lol … and replying back to, smart one lol ..

          • Jerry Lee

            Ave- try reading Emily Post’s Etiquette, it’ll help you a lot more than the Constitution. From the tone of your posts, I thought maybe you had been in a sports bar and your favorite team lost, so you came here to vent. It’s just one nasty comment after another.

  • http://mcwilliamsriverhome.com Indian Andy

    That was written before Christ. And let me remind you, the White House did too.

    • PaMaDu

      Huh? What was written before Christ? The White House did what too?

  • http://mcwilliamsriverhome.com Indian Andy

    And I see some of you did lose IQ points by watching this. Maybe, ” you can’t lose what you never had!”

  • Laurie Lane

    That Is Not What Jeremiah 10 10 Says. Look It Up.

  • PaMaDu

    You’re so racist….

  • PaMaDu
  • Jean_A

    Watch this video and maybe it will help you be less of a sexist pig.
    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/bristolpalin/2013/12/pantenes-interesting-commercial-about-perceptions/

    • Jerry Lee

      More insults from Jean A, tsk tsk.

      • Jean_A

        Where is the insult?

        • Jerry Lee

          “sexist pig” was a compliment???

    • Jean_A

      So if it’s something you don’t like it’s whining.

      • Jean_A

        There is a war on Christmas and that is why you are here.

        • Jerry Lee

          The casualties are still uncounted from the War On Christmas. The horror, the horror…..

          • PaMaDu

            you’re hilarious!

        • PaMaDu

          because she can’t tell EVERYONE how to celebrate their Christmas…perhaps? 😉 I celebrate Christmas without celebrating Christ, yet she and others try and show me the errors of my ways, and say I’m an atheist,blah blah blah. Look at black friday, that’s a CLASSIC example of people NOT celebrating Christ in Christmas…

  • Jean_A

    How much does Obama pay his teleprompter to write for him?

    • Jean_A

      Who does Obama pay?

      • PaMaDu

        you already stated he pays his teleprompter….Jean, did you forget?

        • Jean_A

          I like the teleprompter.

          • PaMaDu

            obviously…you give abilities (ability to write speeches) to such an inanimate object, LOL…now I understand you….yikes…

    • PaMaDu

      whoa, since when do teleprompters write for anyone? Last I knew, SPEECH WRITERS write for people, and a teleprompter is a device that shows a copy of the person’s speech, which the person reads from…

    • PaMaDu

      Remember when Ms Sarah condemned the use of the teleprompter, only to write and refer to written notes in her hand?! OMG, THAT was classic!!

      • PaMaDu

        Yep!

  • Paul Mack

    It amazes me how Sarah Palin lives rent free in liberal peoples’ minds.

  • Jean_A

    Why do you keep changing your logon name?

    • Jean_A

      How many logon names do you have here? two, three, four

      • Jerry Lee

        Jean’s getting paranoid……..

        • Jean_A

          Hitting a nerve.

    • PaMaDu

      REALLY!? Hmmm…interesting…someone doesn’t want the real “truth” to be known…

  • Jean_A

    Mary, Fact: Bristol was on the front cover of People Mag. dressed in her cap and grown receiving her HS diploma. Bristol has worked at the same job for many years.
    Reid made a fool of herself with that piece on Gov. Palin. MSNBC doesn’t employ the brightest people. They think they are bright but when it comes to Sarah Palin they show they are complete idiots.

    • Jerry Lee

      …unless that grad and her family have some serious connections. And a popular, ghostwritten book.

    • Jean_A

      Bristol was on the mag and still works at the same job.

      • PaMaDu

        that’s NOT what you said, however, Jean, she was not on the cover, recieving her diploma. Clearly, you do not fact check, you just throw shit out there to see what sticks, and when it’s proven that your so called ‘facts’ don’t stick, you can’t handle it…

        • Jean_A

          Where was she?

          • Jerry Lee

            Jean’s a troll, no one can be this thickheaded.

          • Beaverton

            Jean is one of the regulars at the Conservatives4Palin site. She’s the one who repeatedly posts …”I Stand With Sarah”

            With her being such a strong supporter of a Pro-Palin blog and a loyal Sarah fanatic, I doubt that she would have very little to contribute in the way of unbiased content..

          • Jean_A

            I guess she was dressing up for Halloween. My mistake!
            http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20279197,00.html

          • Jean_A

            My mistake but I knew I had seen a photo somewhere. After all it was 2009.

          • PaMaDu

            again, you don’t verify your information before you post your bs….

            http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/Bristol_Palin_People.png

  • Stephanie

    Bristol graduated high school in 2009. She was on the cover of a magazine in her cap and gown holding her baby boy. She actually did quite well for someone who had a baby during her senior year and had to care for her newborn son while finishing school. She did not marry her baby’s father, but seeing as he is now married to someone else, that was for the best. They did try to work it out, but it just wasn’t meant to be.

    • PaMaDu

      it wasn’t meant to be because a “car” was offered to Bristol to break up with Levi…materialism was more important to her

      • Jean_A

        Levi broke up with Bristol to become Ricky Hollywood.

        • PaMaDu

          wrong again, Jean…

          • Jean_A

            Right again. He picked the name.

          • PaMaDu

            that wasn’t the point being discussed, Jean…keep up, please…

        • PaMaDu
          • Jerry Lee

            What night is the Ricky Hollywood reality TV show on?

          • PaMaDu

            don’t know, but I would watch it! 😉

          • Jean_A

            You have to ask Ricky?

          • PaMaDu

            get over it, Jean…that was another time in his life. He’s moved on, and is living his life, with his family. What I find amusing is that Bristol said he was all about the limelight, etc, yet SHE is the one that lived and continues to live in the limelight that she accused him of wanting to be a part of…such a hypocrite, but that’s how those two Palin’s, Sarah and Bristol, roll…

          • Jean_A

            The thing is Hollywood used the little fool but didn’t want the backstabbing little fool hanging around them.

          • PaMaDu

            get your nose out of the rag mags and read something of substance, maybe even learn something…

          • Jean_A

            ditto!

          • Jerry Lee

            Jean, why don’t you read some of the links we’ve provided here? Keep an open mind and you’ll definitely learn something.

          • Jean_A

            You mean the link where free phones are free phones.

          • Jerry Lee

            No, it’s a link that shows you that the phones aren’t free, people who have them get a discount. They’re only free if the cellular service providers choose to offer that benefit. Here’s the link again:
            http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/cellphone.asp

          • Jean_A

            You mean they take money from others to give out a discount.

          • PaMaDu

            this was from march 2009….http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20264324,00.html

            Fiancé Levi Johnston, an electrical apprentice, is “a really hands-on dad,” said Bristol. “He’s just in love with him as much as I am.”

          • Jean_A

            That was before the bodyguard started whispering in his ear how much money he could make trashing the grandparents of his child. Money or child! Up right guy, right?

          • PaMaDu

            It’s called “googling that shit” (research, look up…) unlike what your friend Jean_A apparently doesn’t like to do

          • PaMaDu

            Why do you care?

          • Michael Cummings

            Pa you are disgusting. Like you were kept in a ship quarters as a sex slave. You don’t have to talk like complete liberal white trash anymore to make your point. We get it. Sometimes I regret Republicans giving the right to vote to women and blacks but it’s justpeo you and oprah

          • PaMaDu

            I’m disgusting? LOL..ok..a sex slave, huh? Hmm, interesting, that’s a STRETCH, but thanks for the role playing idea…I talk like a complete liberal white trash? Because I told Tara that I “googled that shit” (meaning I did some research, looked something up).unlike her friend doesn’t like to do? Don’t tell me you’ve never heard of that phrase or have never seen meme’s that say, “…Google that shit…” That’s HILARIOUS!!! Sometimes you regret that the repiglicans gave the right to vote to women and blacks? As IF you had a say or choice in the matter, LMAO!!!

        • Jean_A

          Levi tried for reality shows but one wanted Tripp. Why do you think he got back with Bristol? That reunion didn’t last ver long because Bristol found out that he may have gotten another girl knocked up and it wasn’t the one he knocked up and had to marry.
          What happen to Lev’s other reality show? Remember he was running around with a camera like a kook-kook bird. What happen to Ricky Hollywood running for mayor?
          See I can play your little games.

          • Jerry Lee

            Go read the gossip columns, Jeanius, you’re very tiresome.

          • Jean_A

            He had no choice. Hollywood was done with the backstabber.

          • PaMaDu

            Everyone has a choice, he just realized his choices weren’t in the best interest of his son and family, and he changed paths. GOOD FOR HIM! I admire a man like that…

      • guest

        you sure do have the face to go with the ugliness you spew 24/7. why do ugly liberal women hate the beautiful Palin women?

        • PaMaDu

          Oh, how so mature u are… What are you, 4 yrs old? Poor baby, wonder if you custodial parent knows you’re playing on the computer…

          • guest

            now go work on your inner beauty, at least you can do something about that. start by apologizing for the lies and hate you’ve been spewing here for the past few days. use the opportunity the gracious Bristol is giving you to show everybody that liberals are not the hateful lying lunatics everybody believes them to be. what say you?

          • PaMaDu

            No lies were spread by me, nor have I spewed any hate, nice try though, LOL…”guest with no picture”

          • guest

            pamadu with picture LOL. stop lying, it doesn’t help for inner beauty, admit your faults and take it from there and remember, make good use of the opportunity Bristol is giving you. you may be the only liberal some of the readers here will ever see, so put your best foot forward. No more hating and lying, ok? you can be beautiful too!

          • PaMaDu

            You’re such a freak, LMAO… I know I’m beautiful, I don’t need you to validate me, LOL

          • Ave Ashley Victoria E

            That’s a lie, mockery and attacking others is still a form of Hate, ignorant much .. lol

          • PaMaDu

            like you continue to do? buzz off…

          • Ave Ashley Victoria E

            Yea, your a fake conservative, go someone where else trash … You sound more like Democratic lol …

          • Jerry Lee

            More name calling, Ave. Isn’t that something you criticize Liberals for doing?

          • Ave Ashley Victoria E

            Isn’t that what you liberal’s always focus on in an argument or discussion .. lol

            I say one bad thing or something you disagree with you attack it as somehow you are so much more superior in purity than .. me …

            Yea right !

            From my experience like right now , people like you always name call me or attack me for merely my facts, opinions and my views … when I haven’t said one bad word or attacked anyone … so I could careless what bad words slip through, I’m not perfect nor will I pretend to be …

            You have nothing intelligent or meaningful to say to me …

          • PaMaDu

            I never said shit to you, and you came on the scene, both barrels blazing at me, so STOP playing VICTIM, PLEASE…it doesn’t suit you….SMH….

          • Jerry Lee

            Ave, I do have something intelligent and meaningful to say to you: please clean up your act, leave the cursing and insults for a gangsta rap blog, and practice the Christian values you claim to have.

          • Pthbbbt

            Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one and they usually stink.

          • Ave Ashley Victoria E

            Wow, real mature and appropriate …

        • Jerry Lee

          Not to mention the sound of her voice when she spouts her lame “witticisms”, TC.

    • Ave Ashley Victoria E

      Someone who actually knows the truth …
      Liberal’s only know how to attack flaws, name call, and twist information … lol …

      • Jerry Lee

        Ave- you’d know all about name calling, here’s a few you’ve used here recently- stuck up atheist trash, Liberal *Bitch*, a idiot perception, Progressive and Liberal shit, Liberal and Democratic’s, lie, steal, cheat, and are Not Wholesome in away, Liberal Closed -Minded Idiot, Dumb Atheist…

        Is that Christian behavior, Ave?

        • Ave Ashley Victoria E

          No it isn’t, but it’s the truth lol …
          I’m not perfect!! Christian’s aren’t perfect duh!

          But I’m very pissed of and sick of your “Shit” of pointing out every cuss word I quote or say .. thank you again for making my point on how you can only point out another’s flaws, as somehow being justifiable in lifting yourself up …

          I’m not going to tolerate other’s attacking me and my Faith, after awhile when it’s a life long experience you get sick and tired of it, something you don’t know the feeling of, if you think Christians don’t get angry and don’t have a right to be angry you are fooling yourself …

          • Jerry Lee

            Ave- I agree, you aren’t perfect. You cursing doesn’t persuade anyone to consider your viewpoints and makes you look childish. If you have some facts or insights to challenge someone’s comments, you make a better, more intelligent case without the cursing and insults. Anger really doesn’t help, it’s not part of your faith.

          • Guest

            BE ANGRY, AND yet DO NOT SIN; do not let the sun go down on your anger.

            Ephesians 4:26

          • Jerry Lee

            Guest, here’s what Ephesians 4:26 really says:
            “26 “In your anger do not sin”: Do not let the sun go down while you are still angry, 27 and do not give the devil a foothold.”

      • steve allen

        Hey Ave, this idiot Jerry Lee has nothing else to do but come on a republican sight and try to convince everyone how smart he is. He actually thinks his idiotic jibberish is going to change our minds about our conservative values.

        • Ave Ashley Victoria E

          Thank you for your truthful incite, I’m very well aware of that, I’m quiet used to being attacked for all of my values, apparently putting down other’s that are of the opposite party and Christian Faith, is a entertaining act Lib’s and Dem’s like to do .. They have no humanity ..

          I don’t go around having these issue’s with the few Lib and Democratic Friend’s and Family member’s in my Life ..

  • PaMaDu

    just a little sumtin’sumtin’ about the origin of the Christmas Tree…http://www.history.com/topics/history-of-christmas-trees

  • David

    The Liberal/Democrat News Media just Love to ridicule Everything that Sarah Palin does … so … no surprise here … this has been going on since 2008.
    I guess your Mom’s New Book gives them something to talk about … because the Lame Stream Media sure Never ridicule Anything that Obama does … he is their Messiah … they worship Obama .. they don’t need Jesus.

    • PaMaDu

      y’all follow the same scripted, don’t ya? YAWN….BORING…

      • Jerry Lee

        Here comes another one…. Yo David, watch John Stewart and The Colbert Report sometime, they make a lot of good jokes at Obama’s expense. Of course, Sarah Palin and the conservatives give them sooo much more material.

        • ccrsems5

          Jerry Lee, just a few comments away you were belittling someone about their spelling, capitalization and punctuation, so as to appear as such a smart, well-learned person…. Now, a liberal comment, and you give them a bye to go after the conservative comment after? This one needed a capital to begin, I think meant script, not scripted….. but not a word from you. How about either treat everyone the same, or shut up and quit trolling the comments for something to make you feel superior? You don’t present arguments or comments to further the discussion, you only attack other’s arguments. How about you make yourself feel better by actually commenting about the article, not just belittling other’s comments.

          • Jerry Lee

            ccrsems5- I’m not the moderator here, dude. I usually only correct the nastiest people here, or those who initiate the nastiness. For some reason they usually seem to be of the Conservative persuasion.

          • Francis Paul John McAnarney Jr

            I read the posts in this thread and disagree with you.

          • Jerry Lee

            You have every right to do that, Francis. I really haven’t been keeping a running count.

          • Francis Paul John McAnarney Jr

            then why lie and say “they usually seem to be of the conservative persuasion”?

          • Jerry Lee

            Feel free to prove that I lied. My instincts tell me I’m right.

        • falling321

          Yes, but exactly WHEN did those jokes and comments begin? The greatest majority were not until after his re-election in 2012 when it became obvious to the whole world that Obama is a joke and the late night political comedians were forced to put his foolishness into their routines. How many times did you hear political comedians making fun of Obama for calling corpsmen, corpsemen? Or making a big deal of Obama not knowing there are only 50 US states? Or his ‘pie’ speech when his teleprompter was down for two minutes and all he could do was talk about the pie he had eaten, because he didn’t know even the opening words were to a campaign speech he had already given a hundred times!

          • Jerry Lee

            falling321- When did they begin? As soon as he decided to run for President. Comedians need material, and Sarah Palin and her ilk just happen to provide them with so much more to work with than President Obama.

      • David

        Yep, you Liberal Trolls are pretty Boring, too.

    • Jean_A

      Barbara WaWa sure thought he was their Messiah. You can’t make this stuff up.

      • PaMaDu

        yes, you can, you are a classic example of making things up, and trying to pass it off as ‘fact’….

        • Jean_A

          Tell me what I made up.

          • PaMaDu

            read your all your previous posts all over this entire thread/story. you’ve ignored links provided to you, just so you can continue spewing your bs, or…better yet…”wait until 2014″ to find out, like you like to say…;-)

          • Jean_A

            Did Barbara WaWa think Obama was her Messiah?

          • Jerry Lee

            I give up, did she?

          • Jean_A

            Yes!

          • PaMaDu

            no she didn’t… LMAO…Jerry Lee, her misconstrued information is coming from an online news source that allegedly “exposes and combats liberal media bias…” LMAO…

          • Jerry Lee

            That sounds like every conservative “news” site out there. They just steal all their stories from Fox, or Rush, or The Blaze.

          • PaMaDu

            It was “news busters” or something like that, :-)

          • falling321

            How was it taken out of context? Both the question asked by Morgan and the answer given by Walters are complete and in their proper context….she actually thought he was going to be the messiah and she included the majority of those who voted for him had the same idea. In fact, if you go back to the early boards in 2008, just before his election, you will see quite a few claiming exactly that, along with magazines that portrayed him with a halo around his sacred head! Fools every single one of them!

          • Pthbbbt
          • Pthbbbt

            A for Asshole, Jeannie baby?

  • Jean_A

    I bet your mother is proud of your mouth.

    • PaMaDu

      Strange, Jean says that about Wills comment, but says nothing about the other comments posted to other posters by many of those of her ilk….

      • Returnoffds

        I think Jean thought Wills comment with directed at ” Bristol” as opposed to the msnbc host.

        • PaMaDu

          Oh, very possibly!

  • JMM

    Ugh…they’ll never change.

  • Sam Oranger

    MSNBC should be called MS-LSD

  • kelly9107

    She looked like al (not to ) sharptons brother.

    • Jerry Lee

      kelly9107- nice spelling, capitalization, and punctuation. It makes your comment so very effective.

      • falling321

        LOL Look another member of the spelling/grammar police! Did you buy yourself a nice shiny badge when you assigned yourself to the job?

  • Sam Moore

    What was this gal’s purpose in doing this bit? People like her sound so stupid when they try to take random verses from the Bible and explain them when he or she clearly have no idea to what the passage is referring or in what context the passage is stated. We get it, lady: you’re trying to piss off Christian conservatives. Any reasonable person, regardless of their beliefs could easily concur that this lady is not only obnoxious, but she is flat out lame. Who hires these people at MSNBC?

    • Kimberly Clark Robbins

      Her integrity is intact since the scripture she quoted is not located at Jeremiah 10:10.

  • https://youtu.be/h82D5ZvcALM CrustyB

    MSNBC is to theology what Pee Wee Herman is to weight lifting.

    • Jerry Lee

      Aren’t YOU witty! Is the “B” short for Butt?

      • https://youtu.be/h82D5ZvcALM CrustyB

        Huh huh! You said “butt!” Huh huh!
        Moron.

  • Kristy Patullo

    That Billy Madison clip is hilarious! And just about sums up this woman’s incredible ignorance.

    • PaMaDu

      The woman, Palin, YES!! My gosh, every time she speaks that Billy Madison clip is all that I can hear, LOL, excellent point!!!

      • Minda McGill

        you sure has the same mentality with that msnbc anchor woman pretty s t u p I d

        • Jerry Lee

          Minda- nice grammar, punctuation, and capitalization.

        • PaMaDu

          Yes, I “has” I happen to respect Joy Reid (Minda said “has” LMAO)

        • PaMaDu

          I “sure has” and you’re calling me stupid, LMAO OK….

  • ImJustAGuy

    This MSNBC woman just condemned everyone to hell. (rolls eyes)

  • kjatexas

    I had a Kwanza tree myself…..uh…..Mr. Ed show.

  • xwiseguyx

    Dear Sarah, Here is hoping in 2014, you decide to live the bible to the fullest instead of just picking and choosing your passages… the world would be such a better place!

    Matthew 7:1-5

    “Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you
    pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be
    measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye,
    but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say
    to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is
    the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your
    own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your
    brother’s eye.

    • Jenny Sue

      John 3: 18-21 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God.”

    • Bill Mattingly

      What are you doing ASSWIPE ???

    • justMO

      You would be wise to continue reading even if just this chapter. And if you do not believe in God, having a personal relationship with Him you have to place correcting someone else’s relationship.

    • falling321

      Are you suggesting that none of us is to have an opinion on politics or religion or life in general without living a perfect life ourselves? How foolish can you possibly be! Go read a bit further and put the passage in it’s proper context…then come back and apologize for your ignorance and hypocrisy! http://www.bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Bible.show/sVerseID/23318/eVerseID/23318

      I’m an atheist and even I know you don’t have a clue what the passage means!

    • Dee

      Yet you decide to pick and choose passages to suit your own means and it’s perfectly OK? Try taking your own advice and live the WHOLE Bible instead of picking and mis-quoting verses to suit your own means.

      • xwiseguyx

        Bitter, party of one. Your table is ready

        • Dee

          I would, but you seem to be enjoying sitting there by yourself.

          • xwiseguyx

            Nope. God is sitting with me. You just can’t see him.

          • Dee

            Good, listen to what He has to say while He’s there. I’m sure he’ll agree that you shouldn’t cherry pick from His word, misquote it, and take it out of context just to make yourself look better in a discussion.

          • xwiseguyx

            I did. He said you are very misguided and I should listen to people with intelligence going forward…

      • Jerry Lee

        No one lives the whole bible, otherwise, Bristol Palin would have been burned for being pregnant out of wedlock, and homosexuals would be stoned.

    • Wizard

      Wow, you are BRILLIANT. The passage was not referencing to Christmas trees, but idols or statues carved from the trees, The Christmas tree came in the 1500, therefore it did not exists when that passage was written.

  • Julie Dispain

    This woman is crazy! Sarah isn’t praying or worshiping a Christmas tree. Please lady learn your BIBLE and the meaning of the passages before you start PREACHING IT TO SOMEONE!

  • Jim Tomlins

    I hope that reporter’s mother slaps the shit out of her for reporting how bad a Christmas tree is and making fun of someone sharing family pictures. Msnbc how about leaving you anti – American liberalism crab home for a day. Ugh. Your opinions are worthless and your stories are so partisan. Thanks for keeping up the effort to divide our country jerks !!!!!!

  • wannabeaff

    The real Jeremiah 10:10: But the LORD is the true God; he is the living God, the eternal King. When he is angry, the earth trembles; the nations cannot endure his wrath.

  • Jenny Sue

    What silliness will MSNBC come up with next.

  • AmericanFaith

    How ignorant of what the scripture is saying…but not everyone is that learned…She probably has a CHRISTMAS TREE at her home and a White Santa propped up in her yard and will celebrate CHRIST.MAS around a CHRIST.MAS TREE. They’re throwing stones…

  • Not the same old same

    I bet she has a big ass…Christmas tree.

  • Greg Harmon

    What do you expect from people that feel so left out of a holiday that they invent their own holiday, yet claim they are still Christian. I would hazard a guess that practicing a false holiday is preferable to worshiping false idols. I dunno. I will have to check the Ebonics definition in the self esteem 101 classes.

  • Justified

    So, just who is that moron? I mean, seriously, Jeremiah 10:10? Clearly, the MSNBC ‘talking turd’ has drastically removed herself from having the cognitive ability to understand that ‘Jerry 10:10’ was describing how a tree is cut down, bark and branches removed, shaped into a ‘figure’, and then was ‘idolized’ as a ‘God’, as was gold, granite, silken material, and other materials/metals, NOT the tree itself. And factually, Jesus was born long after the book or Jeremiah was written. MSNBC = M aking S arcastic N egative B iased C omments. But, does anyone within the realms of reality expect anything less from the MSM? I think NOT!

  • Bill Mattingly

    Is that ED’S WIFE ????? Same IQ level, just asking !!!!!

  • SouthernChristianMom

    Ok…Wow talk about Biblical ignorance. Someone needs to attend service more often and pull out a few commentaries before they start quoting and applying scripture they don’t understand out of context.

  • Jenny Sue

    Jude 1:14-23 “Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of His saints, to execute judgment on all, to convict all who are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have committed in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.”
    These are grumblers, complainers, walking according to their own lusts; and they mouth great swelling words, flattering people to gain advantage. But you, beloved, remember the words which were spoken before by the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ: how they told you that there would be mockers in the last time who would walk according to their own ungodly lusts. These are sensual persons, who cause divisions, not having the Spirit.
    20 But you, beloved, building yourselves up on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit, 21 keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
    22 And on some have compassion, making a distinction; 23 but others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire, hating even the garment defiled by the flesh.

  • Dee

    Hmmm…I wonder what “Bible” she used because what she ‘quoted’ is NOT Jeremiah 10:10 https://www.bible.com/bible/1/jer.10.10.kjv

    • Margaret Trombley

      TY I was about to check the that., The tree was german tradition started around the 1500’s and became popular under Queen Victoria

    • Tim

      And a conservative Christian is just a moron!

    • Christina W

      She is in the right chapter, but not the verse : Jer 10:2 Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
      Jer 10:3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
      Jer 10:4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

      http://unifiedserenity.wordpress.com/2013/12/16/messiah-rock-of-salvation/

    • Swibbie

      Actually, I think she quoted Jeremiah 10:3 from the NIV, but details and context and logic and intelligent dialog don’t matter when there is so much hate involved. Besides, both of her viewers will now think that passage is from Jeremiah 10:10, without even bothering to check it out.

  • Bill Bremer

    This reporter knows not what she said, told too elaborate on something as trivial as a personal Christmas tree, and mis -quoting the good book.. Sarah I’m sure you know bitter innuendos and splatters of false and vicious reporting are all in a days norm for you, ..Just stay the course, It will all come out in the wash…By the way, I can understand a woman wanting to maintain a healthy weight, but I liked it when you had more consistence,, Like a little weight not a lot , on women..just sayin…

  • PaMaDu

    What I find MOST AMUSING in this whole thread is that it’s the Teapublicans who are name calling and using foul language against those with differing opinions….yet crying foul when it’s done back to them, LOL…. This thread has gone into “circus mode” now, LOL, TOO FUNNY! :-)

    • Media Censorship

      Why are you here? Looking for a fight? You know you can’t win ….. right?

      • PaMaDu

        I’m a lover, (just not of Sarah or Bristol) not a fighter. I post what I post and watch a whole lot of y’all lose your freaking minds over what I posted, it’s quite the comedy!! Thanks for your input though! 😉

        • Wizard

          PaMaDu, I am a liberal (my family is very left), and I can’t stand sarah plain either, but all of your comments seem to have been posted by a VERY desperate human. You are extremely pathetic. You can’t say you are a “lover”, then admit to causing drama, which results in fighting. Basically, you are one of the liberals that give US a bad name.

          • PaMaDu

            Thanks for your “insight” Tom..LOL….

          • Wizard

            Exactly,..You can’t even see it can you? You attack the right, while making a fool of yourself, which fuels their stereotypes against people like myself. Our party would be MUCH better without people like you.

          • PaMaDu

            I admitted to nothing, but nice try, I respond to some posts that are directed to me. Your post here is of no substance, and not even on the subject matter of the thread. I couldn’t care less who you like and don’t like, or anything about you… You’re nothing but a sad man, attacking me and others from behind a keyboard, lol

        • Swibbie

          Yeah, I enjoy the comedy, too. Especially from people like you who have so much hate that you are willing to publically make a fool of yourself. You do realize that people are laughing at you, don’t you??….Don’t you???

          • Jerry Lee

            They’re laughing with her, Swibbie. There’s a difference.

          • Swibbie

            Jerry, maybe you are laughing with her, but I assure you that most intelligent people reading her posts are laughing at her lunacy. But I understand why you wouldn’t think that. I really do.

          • Jerry Lee

            That’s for understanding, Swibbie. I appreciate it.

          • PaMaDu

            And why would you think I would care? All you and the others like you, are just angry people, slamming their fingers on the keyboard to try and insult me and others, and quite frankly, you and those like you are FUNNY AS HELL to read :-) so entertaining :-)

          • Swibbie

            Nope, not slamming, not angry, and did I say I cared?? Not real good at reading comprehension are you? Actually, you’re not very good at anything other than exposing your moronic and vapid stupidity on message boards. So keep it up moron. I will continue to laugh at you, as most intelligent people are doing.

          • PaMaDu

            clearly, you don’t read, I didn’t say you care, I asked WHY would you think I cared, LOL…and this post of yours just proves what I said in my post you are responding to, THANKS! 😉 UPVOTE! 😉

        • Darwin Frick

          Ha,ha, …. I do that on liberal blogs…. it is fun to see all the reaction, isn’t it ??? I never get angry, but how does anyone know when they can’t see me …. So everyone thinks they are pissing me off with their ignorant, or hateful rap, when they are the only ones getting pissed off !!!

          • PaMaDu

            Thank you, Darwin Frick, that’s EXACTLY right! :-) SEE, we CAN agree :-)

    • Jerry Lee

      Send in the clowns… don’t bother, the Teapublicans are already here.

      • PaMaDu

        Good one!!!

        • Swibbie

          Yeah, good one. But then you people never name call, do you? LMAO.

          • Jerry Lee

            Swibbie- Where did we claim that we never do it?

          • Swibbie

            Yeah Jerry, you’re right. I guess I just assumed that since you are willing to slam the “Teapublicans” for name calling, that you would have the integrity to not do it yourself. I now realize my mistake. I should have realized that hypocricy is just a way of life for you people, and integrity is not part of your vocabulary.. My bad.

          • Jerry Lee

            swibbie- Integrity: the quality of being honest and having strong moral principles; moral uprightness.
            Your bad indeed, sir.

          • PaMaDu

            When did “Teapublican” become a bad name? LOL…

    • Margaret Trombley

      Pa she has no opinion. Parots do not have their own opinion and her facts are wrong

    • Swibbie

      So you’re upset that the “Teapublicans” are name calling and the thread has gone into “circus mode”???!!!! Not too good with self-awareness are you? LMAO.

      • PaMaDu

        where did I say I was “upset”? Your word, not mine, but then again, that’s how you Tea/Re/publicans, conservatives work, misinterpret what is said, twist things around to suit your agenda…whatever…

        • Wizard

          Patricia- You do know what tone is, correct? I really hope you gained something from school.

          • PaMaDu

            I’m glad you can read tone… guess that makes you oh so special…Kudos :-)

        • Swibbie

          Oh gosh Pa, you’re right. I guess I should have said “amused” instead of “upset”. Now don’t take this wrong, but us “Tea/Re/publicans, conservatives” are “amused” (but not “upset”) with your lack of intelligent dialog and the way you get “amused” (but not “upset”) when you accuse us of doing something that you do as a way of life. We find it very…ah…ah…”amusing”. LMAO.

          • PaMaDu

            good for you! You really should laugh more…it’s good for your soul and longevity :-) you’re welcome

          • Swibbie

            Oh I assure you Pa, I laugh more than you. A lot of times it’s laughing AT you, but neverless much more than you. But thank you for your concern. Very touching. LMAO.

          • PaMaDu

            you’re just so sweet! god bless you!

          • PaMaDu

            I am glad that I amuse you :-)

    • colorado_df

      PaMaDu- With some exceptions (Valerie) I have found most conservatives to be more respectful in their commentary than most liberals. I think you and I would both agree that mutual respect is a must in political discussions, even if neither one of us could begin to fathom how the other arrives at their postions.

      • Jerry Lee

        colorado- I agree about the mutual respect part, but it won’t happen on an unmoderated blog. I disagree with this: “With some exceptions (Valerie) I have found most conservatives to be more respectful in their commentary than most liberals.” My opinion is the opposite. Ever since Rush Limbaugh came in, Conservative commentary has been filled with insults and childish nicknanes for the Democrats and their policies.

        • colorado_df

          Yeah, I have to agree with you about Rush. Sarcasm really has no place in this. I guess when one side starts it, then the other side has to fight back with it. It’s really gotten out of hand with Rachel Maddow, too.

          • PaMaDu

            Now HER, I like. She’s usually the only one I watch anymore on MSNBC, I like her journalism and I like the way she fact checks and admits when she makes a mistake and she clarifies what she means when needed. I have MUCH respect for her.

          • colorado_df

            Sorry PaMaDu, I couldn’t disagree more. She doesn’t try to veil her disdain for conservatives. I find her distasteful and rude almost to the level of Keith Olbermann. Her mocking tone, snide comments, etc, are devisive and often, if she would allow herself to be debated, she’d be unable to substantiate her conclusions in any rational way. She’s just another “opinionator” that has taken over TV “news” (both right and left). If only Walter Cronkite could be resurrected! :)

          • PaMaDu

            I like Keith Olbermann too, actually. :-) I know that doesn’t surprise you :-) I liked Walter Cronkite as well though. I can listen to ALMOST anyone…doesn’t mean I agree, but I can listen. By the way, I have to say, even though we disagree with each other, you are respectful…much appreciated :-)

          • colorado_df

            It’s a shame that common courtesy is becoming a thing of the past, isn’t it? The Internet has done very little (IMO) to advance the human species. Happy New Year PaMaDu! May we find common ground in the future, and hopefully it won’t the dirt floor of the poor house. :-)

      • PaMaDu

        I agree, but I also realize you have not read MANY of the one’s who claim to be “Christian Conservative,” otherwise, I think you would reconsider that thought, but if not, that’s cool too…to each their own… :-)

  • TominBroomall

    What a pathetic human being. No wonder this station is dead in the ratings.

  • Stan Johnston

    Now I understand why people who watch MSNBC are drooling welfare queens.

  • Tim

    It’s sad that you’re too ignorant to realize you just proved her point.

  • PaMaDu

    For a what? LOL AT LEAST that other poster had the balls to post whatever he wanted to call me…LMAO

    • Wizard

      again,. Proving my point.

  • cici

    I guess she had nothing better to talk about than trashing Sarah Palin……hmmmm maybe she should have read, “Judge not lest ye be judged”! What happened to Peace on Earth Good Will Toward Men? Ms Palin was just sharing some family holiday moments on the Fox Channel, so why was MSNBC even watching? Now you know why their ratings are soooo far in the toilet !!!!!!

    • Margaret Trombley

      MSNBC watches Fox because they have to get the truth somewhere

    • David Hutchison

      She is pretty judgmental for such a devout Christian. Just saying…As a Christian myself i find her a big turnoff in that regard..

  • Tim

    You’re absolutely right about everything Christmas, Bristol, and so is your mom! Let’s keep the Christ in the holiday observance that Catholics used to supplant pagan holiday observances, just like Easter!

  • Margaret Trombley

    Ummm Maybe I am crazy but wasnt the Christmas tree a German tradition around 1500…..should we all hate Germans now? Boy who watches these fools? And what does that have to do with anything?

  • Tim

    Otherwise is one word, racist.

    • Wizard

      Valerie Jarrett did not present any hatred for a specific race, therefore she is not being racist. You really need a dictionary. Although, her sentence had some sort of message, it wasn’t the best joke in the world.

      • PaMaDu

        Are you kidding, Tom? yes, “Valerie Jarrett” (interesting name choice) did. Really? are you really that blind and or ignorant to see what she wrote? So you are saying, Valerie Jarretts comment is not racist? Thanking “the lord” for “color tv” other wise she wouldn’t see this ho if she were watching B&W (aka Black and White” really Tom?? WOW, clearly YOU did lose iq points….

        Valerie Jarrett

        • 40 minutes ago

        Thank the lord for color tv other wise you wouldn’t see this ho if you were watching on a B & W

        • Wizard

          Firstly, if I lose IQ points for stating a fact, you lose many more for claiming you are a lover, but enjoy igniting fights. She called her a ho, because she is a female, you can not claim she is a racists from that remark. Gender and skin color are the easiest points to use when attacking someone.

          • PaMaDu

            and she mentioned color, but that’s ok, it’s typical for people like you to ignore the obvious….

          • Tim

            So your argument literally amounts to “She’s not a racist, she’s just a racist!” Again, you’re being a dullard.

      • Tim

        She called a black woman a ho and said she’d be invisible on black and white television, if you can’t read the racist intent behind her words, you’re a bit of a dullard.

    • PaMaDu

      she probably wears a white hood too….

  • Deb Stearns

    I dont know how MSNBC stays on the air, must be Soros paying the bills.

  • TheWalkingDon

    Jeremiah 10:10 NIV version “But the Lord
    is the true God, he is the living God, and an everlasting king: at his
    wrath the earth shall tremble, and the nations shall not be able to
    abide his indignation.”

    Jeremiah 10:10 KJV version “But the Lord is the true God, he is the living God, and an everlasting king: at his wrath the earth shall tremble, and the nations shall not be able to abide his indignation.”

    I can’t find anywhere where it discusses Christmas trees. I’m not even a bible thumping Christian.
    While, I don’t agree with my conservative friends on here making the racist comments, because being racist has nothing to do with political affiliation and more to do with dumb ignorance, all they need to do is just show facts which Liberals have a hard time understanding.

    • Christina W

      Jer 10:2 Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
      Jer 10:3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
      Jer 10:4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

      Sounds like a pagan fertility tree to me. The RCC incorporated pagan gods and ritual to appease their captives and convert them. This video I did covers it pretty well. http://unifiedserenity.wordpress.com/2013/12/16/messiah-rock-of-salvation/

      • TheWalkingDon

        Then she should have said Jeremiah 3 and 4. I just looked for Jeremiah 10:10. I still find it ridiculous to go after someone for showing their past Christmas photos and being that petty. It truly shows how desperate MSNBC is to go after something like that.

        • Christina W

          The leftists will take any and every opportunity to belittle and correct those on the right. Sometimes they are correct, but they do not use the same veracity in judging those on the left, and that is why it’s so hypocritical. I rather like Palin, but in this issue she is wrong.

    • Rudolf F. Borsics

      “…Bible thumbing Christian” hmm. The gay guys and liberals use this term. Also a lot of socialists.

      • Jerry Lee

        Phil Robertson called his family bible thumpers…

      • Tim

        I like how you categorize those people you don’t necessarily like or agree with. How do you cover the overlap? And what do you do when a “good Christian” falls into one of those categories? Or do you think that Christians who fall into those categories can’t be true Christians? Are you judging right now? Jesus said you probably shouldn’t do that.

      • TheWalkingDon

        So, I’m a socialist and/or gay because I say “bible thumping Christians”? I would think performing oral on another man would make me gay and following Joseph Stalin and Vladmiir Lenin would make me a Socialist. Fact is, I’m a Republican. I’m not religious in any way. I have my reasons and none of them has anything to do with being liberal, gay or socialist for which I am none of those things.

        • cbenoistd

          No, you’re not a socialist and/or gay. You’re a jerk.

          • TheWalkingDon

            Why? Because I state facts that you can’t handle? Because I think for myself and not tow the party lines? Enlighten me oh wise one?

          • PaMaDu

            no offense, but I’m sure you’ve been called WORSE by better, right? I know I have…the words I’ve been called here fade me not :-)

          • TheWalkingDon

            Oh yeah. I give no F**ks about people who are cyber tough and the only thing they can do is insult. It shows their lack of intelligence and tolerance for others.

          • PaMaDu

            I like you…:-)

          • TheWalkingDon

            Thanks. :)

  • harleydavidson

    MSNBC must have run out of ideas to show their viewers.

  • Margaret Trombley

    This is the crazy vitriol against Sarah Palin I cannot tolerate. So now every Christian on here is an idol worshiper (Jeremiah 10:10 refers to making statues not Christmas trees-geesh ask me the atheist if you do not know) for having an Christmas tree. A tradition not started until around 1500 in Germany and made popular by Queen Victoria. Yet it is Sarah Palin’s fault. I do say you must ask yourself why Palin is so hated? To date I have not debated ONE person even on the right that can present any facts of their hatred for her. Not one. Just sound bites. Why is she so scary? Perhaps because she is a powerful female who does not encompass victimhood into her ideology…hmmmmm That goes against the grain does it not?

  • colorado_df

    There are scholars who claim that Christianity pitted itself against paganism and intentionally aligned the birth of Christ with the winter solstice. In effect, Christians usurped that period of the year for the advancement of their religion over paganism. I don’t know if it’s true or not (Christ not actually being born on Dec 25th), but as fact, the Christmas Tree became a Christian tradition dating back to the 1700s or so in Germany and eventually propagated around the world. The referenced Old Testament passage, I suspect, refers to pagan practices during the winter solstice. A key difference is a Christmas Tree is a symbol, not an idol. MSNBC should put more thought into their attempts to discredit conservative figures. It makes MSNBC look petty and foolish.

    • Tim

      The tree was just a symbol in paganism too, it represented male fertility. Hence the OT verse. Then the Catholics came along and made it a part of their symbolism in order to recruit pagans into the fold. Easter was pagan too, It was a celebration of the Anglo-Saxon pagan goddess Eostre (see where the holiday name comes from?). Incidentally she was also representative of fertility.

      • colorado_df

        Thanks for the correction. Key is that the quoted scripture was targeting paganism, not Christmas Trees, which had not been conceived at the time.

        • Tim

          It was targeting the pagan fertility tree, Catholicism, rather than deriding and forbidding it, decided on subtlety and making it a part of Christian traditions. Subtle vipers, they.

          • Darwin Frick

            Read the full texts…. there is nothing here about decorating a tree…. it was wood cut and shaped into Idols, and overlaid with gold & silver and worshipped as a god. An Idol. The whole captor is about worshipping Idols.

          • Tim

            10:2 merely describes cutting down a tree and adorning it, and putting it in a fixed place. Lots of people do that these days, unless they live in a place with the wrong kinds of trees, then they get a plastic placeholder.

          • PaMaDu

            “Subtle vipers, they” in more ways than one, you can say THAT again…

    • James Barrow

      The Christmas Tree is in fact based off the Yule Log of pagan tradition. It was used in celebration of the birth of the god on the winter solstice.

  • Jerry Lee

    Well, Valerie, at least your ignorant name calling isn’t limited to one gender….

  • Tim

    Oh shit, check out this big, strong woman behind a keyboard, using those words that she could never bring herself to use in reality, because what would her congregation think? You’re a paper tiger, sweetheart, your claws can’t do a goddamn thing to me :)

    • Wizard

      and you think you can do anything to her? Your paper tiger reference works both ways.

      • Tim

        I’m not trying to do anything to her. Valerie, in all of her rage, is doing her damnedest to use intimidating wording in order to get people to leave, or to make some point or another. Stop being such a dullard.

  • Rudolf F. Borsics

    This has to be a put on…no one earning a paycheck can be that stupid.

  • JuVen Luis

    I truly feel their is jealousy issues with this video…

  • Rudolf F. Borsics

    I believe I know what you stand for. Also what you are.

    • Tim

      Judge not, lest ye be judged :) Why point out the mote in your brother’s eye, ignoring the beam in your own?

  • dhock

    Wow that’s all I can say….not only did they not research enough to find the location of this passage but totally misinterpreted it. This passage was speaking of carving statues of baal a common wood idol found in many pagan home.

  • Thomas Weiss

    Rarely seen a segment that smacks of desperation the way that one did.
    Jeremiah predates the “Christmas” tradition(s) but just a bit lol. He was referring to idols. I wonder if this “journalist” lol, realizes just how stupid something like that makes her look??

    • SouthTexasFrac

      Would she even dare to put this episode on a resume’? “Hey, look what I did!”

  • SouthTexasFrac

    There has to be some lefty, socialist news writer in a back room at MSNBC, slapping his knee, and giggling to himself “I can’t believe I got her to say that on the air! I love it when we have fill-in wanna-be- Martins! hahaha!”

    • colorado_df

      You found humor in all this. Well done! A little levity is always a good thing.

      • Jerry Lee

        It’s like Ron Burgundy, reading anything off the teleprompter.

      • PaMaDu

        a white southerner at that….

  • Tony Hamrick

    How about we fire this reporter for being Christianphobic. And yes, there is just one meaning of Christmas.

  • Susan Schipper

    WHEN TIME BEGAN THERE WAS ” NO ” BIRTH CONTROL = FACT !! THIS IS WHY WE ALL HAVE “4” & MORE RACES { WE ARE ALL MIXED } & FROM THE BEGINING WE HAVE MOVED AROUND THE WORLD “SHARING THE LOVE” = TRUTH !! THIS IS WAY ONLY “GOD” KNOWS WHO OUR PASSED LOVE ONES SHARE THE LOVE WITH !! ~~ SO THIS IS “NOT” ABOUT COLOR ~~ IT IS ABOUT TELL THE TRUTH & HISTORY OF TRUTH & FACTS !! HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL AMERICANS & GOD BLESS AMERICA & THE TRUTH FOR ALL OUR CHILDERN AROUND THE WORLD !!!!

    • Tim

      In the very beginning there was nothing resembling people. Single-celled organisms need no birth control.

      • Guest

        First define beginning, next how do you know this? were you there?

        • Tim

          Science has far more to offer than throwing one’s hands up and going “God did it 6000 years ago and fossil records are fake and his way of testing us.”

          • PaMaDu

            OMG, reminds me of a conversation I had with a Pentecostal, telling me that dinosaurs did not exist… GOD BLESS his pointed little head…

          • Tim

            It’s still not as good as the people who say humans and dinos existed at the same time. Gives a whole new meaning to “Sermon on the Mount” when the mount is a T-Rex.

        • Jerry Lee

          Tom- I was there, Tim’s right.

      • Thomas Weiss

        The beginning? What came before the single celled organisms?
        I guess if you knew you would already have said so.

    • qtdb7

      So let me get this straight.
      If a cop lies/cheats/steals, then that cop goes to JAIL or
      gets FIRED.
      If ‘Walking DEBT’ Obama and other politicians in U.S. Congress
      lie/cheat/steal, then those CROOKS get a pay raise and other
      benefits.

      Am I living in a TWILIGHT zone?

      • Jerry Lee

        Yes qtdb7, you’re in your own private little world.

        • qtdb7

          I am a citizen of REALVILLE.

          • Jerry Lee

            qtdb7- in which state is Realville located?

        • PaMaDu

          Well, he asked… LOL

    • PaMaDu

      what Susan? I couldn’t hear ya…can you SHOUT a little LOUDER please? Good grief….

  • Jerry Lee

    Valerie, you’re just full of….. witticisms, aren’t you dear? Be sure not to use starch when you iron your family’s white sheets and hoods, OK sweety?

  • qtdb7

    Since when did democrats/liberals care about God?
    If democrats/liberals really care about God, then they would
    NOT SCREW/DISTORT with the U.S. Constitution eveyday.
    Democrats/liberals and communist China just want to KILL unborn babies.

    • Tim

      The Constitution is not a testament of Jesus Christ. I don’t even think you know what’s in it.

      • qtdb7

        So how many unborn babies did you democrats/liberals people and communist China KILL today?

        • Tim

          Hell, I don’t know…a lot? Thousands? Millions? I’ve killed untold millions via girlfriends and self-love.

          • qtdb7

            God, I rest my case.

          • Tim

            Really, though, Imagine how many future Presidents and Astronauts and Chief Justices I’ve left dispensed in various places! I’m sure there were some less notable people in there too, but I’ll play conservative and just not worry about them at all!

          • PaMaDu

            I MUST become YOUR stalker Tim, and follow you! LOL…HILARIOUS ONE that you are!

          • Tim

            Why thank you madam! I came, I saw, I entertained/aggravated!

          • Jerry Lee

            qtdb7- God’s not listening to you, dude. And if he were, you’d have been struck by lightning by now.

          • qtdb7

            Jerry Lee is going to HELL. It has been decided.

          • Tim

            Wait, heaven’s got a committee now? Was it unanimous? Does heaven have an appeals process?

          • qtdb7

            Tim, you too. You know where you are going.

          • Tim

            Nowhere, at the moment, I’m not even in my car.

          • PaMaDu

            LOL…

          • Jerry Lee

            Was it a unanimous decision, qtdb7?

  • qtdb7

    Democrats/liberals caring about God?
    If democrats/liberals really care about God, then they would
    NOT SCREW/DISTORT with the U.S. Constitution eveyday.
    Democrats/liberals and communist China just want to KILL unborn babies.

  • JT

    You have to be nice to the poor MSNBC people, they haven’t grasped the difference between old testament and new. Some one has to spell it out for them, Jesus Christ is new testament, and Christ is the meaning of Christmas, not trees or presents, not and economy dependent on sales in the month of Dec.

  • Jerry Lee

    wharton- at least they can write a literate sentence, unlike you.

    Do you know that Sarah Palin has a child with Down’s Syndrome?

    • Swibbie

      Jerry, not a good idea to lecture about literacy and then follow it with the phrase “Downs Syndrome”. I’ve heard of “Down Syndrome”, but you will have to enlighten me as to what “Downs Syndrome” is.

      • Jerry Lee

        Swibble, Down’s Syndrome was sometimes also called mental retardation, although that term is rarely used these days. wharton used the word “retard” as a tasteless insult. I was reminding him that Sarah Palin had a child with Down’s Syndrome. Someone as unenlightened as wharton would also call that child a “retard”. I meant no disrespect, and did not try to make a joke, towards Sarah Palin’s child.

        • Swibbie

          No Jerry, Sarah has a child with “Down Syndrome”. There is no such thing as “Downs Syndrome”. But for the record, I did not think you were denigrating Trig or any child with Down Syndrome. I was merely pointing out that “Down” has no “s”. I know it’s a common mistake, but grammar nazis like me (and you), always like to nit pick on things like that :)

          • Jerry Lee

            Sorry Swibbie, you’re not as clever as you think. It’s called either Down OR Down’s. “Down syndrome (DS) or Down’s syndrome, also known as trisomy 21”
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Down_syndrome

  • Tim

    But what else am I supposed to do while I’m pissing?

    • Guest

      I didn’t think it was piss… LOL

      • Tim

        Shh, don’t tell them! Their delicate sensibilities have almost been snapped!

  • http://twayneking.blogspot.com Tom King

    The Biblical passages referred to the creation of idols, not Christmas trees. And yes, Christians appropriated the pagan holiday. Christmas was a sort of utility holiday. Everybody appropriated it because without some sort of holiday celebrations, December would be as bleak and dismal as February. I think it’s rather nice that the Christians made the holiday about something else rather nicer than human sacrifices to appease petty angry gods and orgies and such.

    • Tim

      Yeah, Christians got rid of the last of their sacrifices during the Crusades!

    • qtdb7

      Democrats/liberals care about God? Really?
      If democrats/liberals really care about God, then they would
      NOT SCREW/DISTORT with the U.S. Constitution eveyday.
      Democrats/liberals and communist China just want to KILL unborn babies.

  • Jim Roach

    Who would have guessed, MSNBC is filled with liberal whack jobs. Did not see that coming.

  • Thomas Weiss

    You’re the fake..
    When Sarah Palin left office to run with McCain she had the highest approval rating of ANY governor in the history of Alaska, are you comparing yourself to her?
    She’s 100 times the person you are and has accomplished 10,000 times more than you ever will in your lifetime, and you know it, loser.

    • Tim

      Highest approval rating of any Alaskan governor…731,449 people. So less than .2% of the population thinks she’s just great! I’m sure your best friend think’s you’re just tops, it amounts to the same thing! Except you’re not out whoring your family out for media deals because of it!

      • qtdb7
        • Tim

          You’re sourcing Breitbart. Who would want to read a conservative circle-jerk? Oh god, a circle jerk, qtdb! Think of the millions of dead babies!

          • qtdb7

            You must be talking about millions of BABIES that you CONFESSED KILLING.

          • Tim

            Well, when a guy and a girl love each other very much and they don’t want a baby, they use various forms of birth control. And when a guy has been single for about a month, he gets special tingly feelings and…you see where I’m going with this.

      • David Hutchison

        Well said

      • Thomas Weiss

        Idiot, it was 80% of the people she governed, no one knew who she was before ’08. she’s the one that got the people justice from Alaskan oil. If Alaskas population had been 10 million it would still have been 80%

        • Jerry Lee

          Not after it dropped 37%, Thomas. It was 56% just a month before she quit.

          • Thomas Weiss

            WTF are you talking about? BEFORE she ran for VP, BEFORE the liberal media launched the most viscous political attack I’ve ever seem, The drop in popularity was a RESULT of lies…nothing more, AFTER the attack.

          • Tim

            A viscous attack! Help, they’re attacking Sarah with thick fluids (wink wink, nudge nudge, say no more!)!

          • Thomas Weiss

            They would if they could, lying pigs that they are, anything that works, character means nothing.

          • Tim

            The same way it means nothing to people who whore their families out to the media because they realized halfway through a term as governor that they couldn’t hack it and the money wasn’t as good there?

          • Jerry Lee

            10W-40 should work well.

          • Jerry Lee

            You were talking about percentages, Thomas. The “liberal media” didn’t file the lawsuits against her.

          • PaMaDu

            I think you confused the hell out of him, LOL…

          • Tim

            The attack had nothing to do with it, it had everything to do with America seeing the woman and McCain getting a resounding “What the fuck have you DONE?” from them. Alaska, ever looking to fit in with the main 48, said “You know, this is a turd. A very polished, almost pretty turd, but still.”

          • Thomas Weiss

            No it didn’t, it came down to a few million welfare recipients getting organized.

          • Jerry Lee

            Did they put their Cadillacs in a circle?

          • PaMaDu

            well, THAT was a blatant, racist remark…sometimes all ya gotta do is read between the lines..

          • PaMaDu

            imagine how organized the other few million non welfare recipients will be….I can hardly wait!

          • Tim

            You’re getting to a point where you’re losing track of your conservative arguments. Welfare recipients can’t get organized, remember? They’re all lazy moochers who just want to stay home! You can’t just change what you say is their nature when it suits you.

        • Tim

          You can’t extrapolate that, Thomas. You’re not using your brain.

          • Thomas Weiss

            Of course I can, your just wrong and you don’t have an answer. Alaskans adored her and for good reason, she did a fantastic job for them,

          • Tim

            You can make a prediction, but you can’t present a prediction as fact.

          • PaMaDu

            not ALL Alaskans…

          • Thomas Weiss

            As I said, “just” 80%

          • Jerry Lee

            Thomas, in May 2007 Palin’s approval rate was 93%, in June 2009 it was 56%. Look it up.

          • Thomas Weiss

            You just proved exactly what I’ve been saying.
            Pre ’07 media attack the best ever
            Post ’09 media attack lower
            THANK YOU!

          • Jerry Lee

            Thomas, it wasn’t the media who brought the lawsuits against her. If she’s so popular there, and was exonerated, why doesn’t she run for Governor again? Is it because she’s been exposed as a mediocre thinker with no vision whose endless gaffs provide tons of material for comedians? Or is it because it’s easier and more profitable to be a conservative gadfly, a reality TV celebrity, and someone who releases a ghostwritten book every year?

          • Jerry Lee

            Then she should have run for Governor again.

    • Jerry Lee

      Her approval rating dropped 37% in two years.

      • qtdb7

        You must be confusing about the current 37% approval rating of ‘Walking DEBT’ Obama and Bush.

        • David Hutchison

          NO Sarah Palin. Her Facebook page has not increased in numbers in ages…She is kind of out of the picture now..

          • Thomas Weiss

            LOL wow you ARE out there….

          • PaMaDu

            I was banned from her’s and Bristol’s facebook pages, go figure. They only want ass kissers on their pages, telling them how wonderful they are, blah blah blah ::puke::

          • PaMaDu

            so she writes a book to stay “relevant” doesn’t she have yet another cable starting sometime next year? You know, because the other one did so well and all, LOL

      • Thomas Weiss

        And the reason for that was liberal lies,14 ethics lawsuits alone (all won by her and filed by left wing organizations).
        Every liberal organization in the country feared her principles and lied and twisted and even attacked her CHILDREN… If you’re with them then you’re a scumbag too.

        • Jerry Lee

          Thomas, if you’ll list those “left wing organizations”, I’ll tell you whether or not I’m a member.

        • Tim

          She whores her children out, she should expect it.

          • Thomas Weiss

            Liar

          • Tim

            Trotting Bristol out to the True Love Waits/Pro-Lifers, playing up her son’s military duty, while not disclosing that he was in legal trouble and it was military or jail, People magazine covers with Bristol and Tripp and Trig…the woman whores her family out.

        • PaMaDu

          no, she didn’t win ALL of them…

          • Thomas Weiss

            prove it liar

    • David Hutchison

      Please she quit…you like this make this very personal…don’t you…God Bless YOU and you kind soul

      • qtdb7

        I don’t see anything wrong with being a ‘quitter’.
        For example(s):
        I quit letting democrats/liberals/socialists/communists
        bankrupting my family with PHONY/frivolous lawsuits.
        I quit my old job and found another better job.
        I quit doing illegal drugs.
        I quit smoking.
        I quit following RINOs’ bad advices/strategies.
        I quit being a STUPID democrat/liberal/socialist/communist.
        I quit idolizing ‘Walking DEBT’ Obama.
        I quit listening to ‘DEBT man walking’ Obama.
        I quit voting for RINOs.

        I can try to show people the differences between
        RIGHT vs. wrong, GOOD vs. evil, … etc.
        I quit fixing STUPID.

        • Tim

          You quit fixing stupid before you got to yourself, sweets :)

          • Jerry Lee

            They don’t make a tool that big.

      • Thomas Weiss

        She quit because of the 14 frivolous ethics lawsuits (all of them thrown out) that she was forced to defend with her own money not the states, and this was AFTER the ’08 election. these freaks were so afraid of her they decided they had to bury her

        • Jerry Lee

          Thomas, politics is a dirty game. Just ask Karl Rove.

          • PaMaDu

            SHE couldn’t hang with the Big Dogs…

        • PaMaDu

          LMAO…oh really?? WOW…I seriously doubt she had that much power.

          • Thomas Weiss

            Your statement makes no sense

          • PaMaDu

            Sure it does, Sarah Palin is a legend in her own mind and no one in politics, DC, etc is afraid of her… She doesn’t have that much power to “scare” people…

    • Tony

      You’re right Thomas, leftists like David always attack Palin because they are very afraid of the immense influence and popularity she has among the common citizens.

      • Jerry Lee

        Tony, you’re being facetious, right?

  • qtdb7

    Democrats/liberals care about God? When?
    If democrats/liberals really care about God, then they would
    NOT SCREW/DISTORT with the U.S. Constitution eveyday.
    Democrats/liberals and communist China just want to KILL unborn babies.

  • PaMaDu
    • Wizard

      Wow Patricia, you just don’t have anything better to do, do you?

      • Tim

        What does responding to her say about you then, Tom? You just have fun being hypocritical, don’t you?

        • Wizard

          She has MANY more comments than I do. I am sure you can count, can’t you? It would be hypocritical if we spent the same amount of time,…You REALLY need a dictionary.

          • Tim

            And I can tell you’re just itching to go back and respond to all of them. Are you stalking this woman! Vile FIEND!!

          • Wizard

            see, now I can’t take you serious, because you almost called me a friend.

          • PaMaDu

            thanks Tim! He’s got a strange way of showing he cares, doesn’t he? LOL

          • Tim

            Be careful though, these things usually wind up with the guy trying to wear your skin. I’ve seen movies!

          • Wizard

            I would be more worried about how Tim feels the urge to rush to your defense.

          • Tim

            That’s because you don’t want her to know about your desire to wear her skin and prance around there, Buffalo Bill :)

          • PaMaDu

            No one “rushes” to my defense, Boo Boo… we just happen to be on the same page at the moment :-) later today or tomorrow might be a different story, but Tim is someone who, even if we didnt agree, I wouldn’t hold it against him, he’s cool people….

          • PaMaDu

            OH MY, and care enough to check my stats to see how much I post! I LOVE IT!!! Gosh, you like me, you must really like me to be so concerned with what I do with my time :-)

      • PaMaDu

        Im currently on vacation, so my time is for me to do what i wish with it :-) Thanks for caring though! Much appreciated! Even through all the hate you and your ilk spill towards me, you still show you care somewhat…oh that’s so sweet! 😉

  • Eva Woolard

    It’s true that the first Christmas was started on Saturnalia Day (Dec. 25). This was the day the early Romans celebrated their pagan god Saturn. When the celebration of Christmas first began the Christians were still being persecuted, tortured and killed for their belief in Jesus Christ. In order to avoid this they selected Saturnalia Day so they could Worship in peace. So they used the same decorations as the Romans did, the fir tree, wreaths, candles and the giving of gifts.Christian meanings were applied to these. Christmas is not rooted in paganism. It is rooted from the hearts of those early Christians who suffered and died and wanted to honor and worship Jesus Christ because of their deep love and reverence for Him. It’s a wonderful way to show Our Father in Heaven how thankful we are that He sent His only Son to save us from our sins.

  • qtdb7

    The TRUTH about Gov. Palin:

    Who Is the Real Sarah Palin?
    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/05/07/who-is-the-real-sarah-palin

    PJTV: Bill Whittle on the Sarah Palin Haters
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmEE61iVhCA

  • PaMaDu
    • qtdb7

      We the People D.R., D.C. (don’t read, don’t care) about LIBERAL
      newspapers/magazines.

      • Tim

        Right, why would you want to break that echo chamber? There’s so many big words and other ideas outside of it, those are the SCARY DEVIL!

        • qtdb7

          Since you CONFESSED KILLING millions of BABIES, you are going to see the SCARY DEVIL.

          • Tim

            Sorry I masturbate. But not really sorry.

          • PaMaDu

            BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

          • Wizard

            qtdb7, if Tim did kill all of those babies, he probably did us a favor. The earth can only support so many beings.

          • Tim

            Someone named Tom is a fan of Eugenics!

          • Wizard

            Perhaps, I don’t follow him, but he has a good point. I actually had a thought of ” how many people can the earth support” and found his ideas along he way. They say 10 billion is our maximum.

      • PaMaDu

        I don’t read it because McCain’s daughter writes for it, but sometimes I gotta sacrifice… :-)

      • MizJones

        Come on qtdb7, we can all use a good laugh once in a while!!

        • qtdb7

          I guess.

        • Jerry Lee

          Donna- that’s why qtdb7 is here! Did you know that he lives in Realsville?

  • Eva Woolard

    Most of them are after money. But why single her out? There are so many others right now on the political scene as bad or much worse than she is. Our President is no exception but he does have an agenda that is far more dangerous to this country than hers is.

    • PaMaDu

      Because she wrote the book about a war on Christmas

  • Tom Johnson

    This is another MSNBC stupidity on display again, Do they really believe Jeremiah 10-10 was discussing Christmas Trees? How totally ridiculous!

    • qtdb7

      That’s my point. Democrats/liberals don’t care about God. They just pretend that they do.
      If democrats/liberals really care about God, then they would
      NOT SCREW/DISTORT with the U.S. Constitution eveyday.
      Democrats/liberals and communist China just want to KILL unborn babies.

      • Jerry Lee

        qtdb7….. you already said that 10 times here….

  • Tim

    You’ve never pulled your pud, or, if you’re a lady, had the menses? Sure, being a guy gets you a higher kill count, but the menses kills a potential life every time too.

    • Thomas Weiss

      No ones talking about spilling sperm genius. We’re talking about the prog/lib war on babies.

      • Jerry Lee

        A War On Babies wouldn’t last very long, they can’t fire guns or defend themselves very well.

        • Thomas Weiss

          You must not be paying attention, it’s lasted 40 years.
          Since 1973.
          55 million dead by my count, you must be so proud.

          • Tim

            Look, we have intelligence that these babies have ties to Al-Qaeda. There are also reports that these babies have been traveling to Libya to purchase enriched yellowcake uranium. To be fair, there’s also a report that they were just after enriched yellow cake, and it could be true, I mean cake is delicious. But better safe than sorry.

          • Thomas Weiss

            See above, get both hands on the table right now, palms down.

          • Tim

            So you’re telling me to complete an action that you’ll never see? I could be pulling my pud, and I’d still be able to trounce you in these arguments. However, I don’t wish to pull my pud right now, at this point the back-and-forth on here is far more entertaining.

          • Jerry Lee

            Tim, you could also be arguing in your spare time….

          • Thomas Weiss

            I’m suggesting you stop, and read more

          • Tim

            I’m suggesting you stop focusing on my ragers so much.

          • PaMaDu

            what are you going to do? search/frisk him!?

          • Tim

            He’s a typical conservative male, he wants to see my rager, hands free, but conservatism says he can’t so he has to ask in a roundabout way.

          • PaMaDu

            so you are so ignorantly claiming that these 55 million mothers are all dem/libs??

          • Jerry Lee

            Probably. Good point.

          • PaMaDu

            thank you, I do make them every so often… 😉

          • PaMaDu

            Now he says 85% of the women are dems/libs

          • Thomas Weiss

            I didn’t say that idiot. BUT I’ll bet its 85%

          • Jerry Lee

            Here come the insults….

          • PaMaDu

            your bet means nothing and holds no water….

          • Thomas Weiss

            And your head holds no brain

          • PaMaDu

            Oh man, Weiss, your pathetic attempt at an insult failed… Terribly…

          • Thomas Weiss

            I works for me…

          • PaMaDu

            LMAO, ok…

          • PaMaDu

            Oh man, this made me laugh…

          • PaMaDu

            Sure you did, now you put a percentage with it… Good grief, don’t you read what you write?

          • Thomas Weiss

            Idiot:

            This is what I wrote:
            “You must not be paying attention, it’s lasted 40 years.
            Since 1973.
            55 million dead by my count, you must be so proud”
            Show me where the % is…..

          • PaMaDu

            Here ya go….
            “Thomas Weiss
            I didn’t say that idiot. BUT I’ll bet its 85%
            6:08 p.m., Monday Dec. 30”

          • Thomas Weiss

            Where did I say all 55 million abortions were had by liberal/democrats?
            I didn’t say it, are you a little drunk tonight?

          • PaMaDu

            You wrote, ”
            Thomas Weiss replied to you
            Idiot:
            This is what I wrote:
            “You must not be paying attention, it’s lasted 40 years.
            Since 1973.
            55 million dead by my count, you must be so proud”

            I wrote to you:
            ” You replied to Thomas Weiss

            so you are so ignorantly claiming that these 55 million mothers are all dem/libs??”

            Then you wrote: “”Thomas Weiss replied to you I didn’t say that idiot. BUT I’ll bet its 85%
            6:08 p.m., Monday Dec. 30”

            So, either you aren’t comprehending what you’re reading, or you’re doing more than drinking….

          • Thomas Weiss

            I repeat:

            Where did I say all 55 million abortions were had by liberal/democrats?

          • PaMaDu

            where did I say you said all? You’re the one that said you bet 85%, put the pipe down of whatever youre smoking and go to bed, clearly, you can’t keep up anymore, LOL

          • Thomas Weiss

            Well you said it right here!! lol…remember now??

            PaMaDu Thomas Weiss

            • 9 hours ago
            so you are so ignorantly claiming that these 55 million mothers are all dem/libs??

          • PaMaDu

            clearly, you’ve been drinking or something. You are clearly trying to twist my words around, but hey, that’s ok…Keep trying…

          • Thomas Weiss

            Ha ha Gotcha!!
            Those are exactly your words, copied and pasted

          • PaMaDu

            and you have a problem understanding, or reading what isn’t there, you didn’t get anything…clearly, but that’s ok…no surprise there, you got caught, trying to play a game, and got yourself caught up, and can’t take responsibilty for it. You’re boring….

          • Thomas Weiss

            Yes Ma’am, whatever you say ma’am. LOL

      • Tim

        So you don’t know how intercourse and fertilization work?

        • Thomas Weiss

          I’ve got a feeling you’re spending more time pulling your pud than you are reading, your responses are lame.

          • Tim

            You only think so because you have no wit, sir.

      • PaMaDu

        war on Babies?? you mean a woman’s right to choose?

      • Tim

        You should be talking about spilling semen. God does. Have you forgotten Onan and his eternal punishment? Every sperm is sacred!

        • Thomas Weiss

          You debate like a child…changing the subject when thing turn inconvenient.

          • Tim

            You said no one was talking about spilling semen, I said you should be and explained why. I was right on point, but you had to attack because you just can’t stand when you’re not right/unopposed.

  • the7thson

    It was Jeremiah 10-3,4…NOT 10-10.

  • Jerry Lee

    qtdb7- you better alert the authorities! There might be a reward for Tim!

  • qtdb7

    When did democrats/liberals care about God?
    If democrats/liberals really care about God, then they would
    NOT SCREW/DISTORT with the U.S. Constitution eveyday.
    Democrats/liberals and communist China just want to KILL unborn babies.

  • MizJones

    With all this “great” research MSNBC is doing on a stupid Christmas tree you’d think the idiots would research Obamas background!!! LMAO What a waste of time…

    • Jerry Lee

      He already passed that research, Donna.

      • MizJones

        Jerry, all do respect, what do you mean? We still really don’t know where he was born, no one knows him from college, his bro just wrote a book that contradicts everything he’s ever said AND his uncle just disowned him for all of the lies. Do you really believe that he truly was researched? I don’t but hey, it’s your choice and I won’t take that away from you.

        • Jerry Lee

          Here ya go, Donna: http://tinyurl.com/733z4zt

          • Jerry Lee
          • MizJones

            Thank you Jerry, I just have a problem believing anything the main stream media has to say (both sides)…I can’t help it, nothing is written in stone! He has lied over and over again and you know the saying, “fool me once, shame on you…fool me twice, shame on me”. What do you need to realize that he is not doing you any good? I try to stay away far away from deceitful people especially one who’s a CONFIRMED liar. You can’t argue this one…or can you? lol

          • Jerry Lee

            Donna, there are many more lies about Obama than he’s ever told. You need to be careful about which web sites and blogs you believe, most of them are partisan. It’s difficult to find credible, unbiased sources online. Snopes is reliable, so are Politifact and The Fact Checker by the Washington Post. As far as I’m concerned, Obama didn’t lie about people keeping their healthcare provider, he made a mistake. There’s a big difference.

          • PaMaDu

            I believe that “mistake” has more to do with the greed of the employers as well. I stated before, they made it known that if his healthcare passed, they would drop the insurance, and many have done just that….

          • MizJones

            Jerry, please don’t underestimate me! I watch, read, listen, research any and everything that jars my interest. I see how these “news” channels show clips that make our president(s) look less than truthful, but doesn’t that happen to all of them? Look at Bush!! lol They ran that poor guy over with a bulldozer too! Thats what happens when you’re the president. Yes Obama made a mistake BUT the biggest mistake he made was lying about it after it came to light. I didn’t want to bring this up but he did worse with the Benghazi Scandal. He blamed it on a video , lied lied lied…and then when he couldn’t defend it anymore he changed his entire story! I got to tell you, that story bothers me so much and I hope the guilty(s) get whats coming. I can go on forever…obviously, I’m a woman! I just think Obama had no idea what it was going to be like as the president. He just wasn’t prepared and he’s making a big mess.

          • Jerry Lee

            Donna- Bush should have been run over with a bulldozer, he and Chaney lied through their teeth to get us into Iraq, and the only people who made out on that deal was Halliburton. There’s nothing Obama, or any other President, could do to come close to that horrible mistake. All I remember about Benghazi at this point was that they made a statement based on the information they had at the time, which was shown to be wrong several days later. As far as making a mess, I think he’s done a good job considering what he inherited, and a total lack of cooperation or compromise from Republicans in the House and Congress.

          • MizJones

            Jerry, You agreed that Obama has lied and thats only because its so out there. The only reason why “you don’t remember Benghazi” is because the lib “news” didn’t report on it in order to protect the liars! You’re still blaming Bush (which is my personal favorite from you yet) and protecting a president that is only trying to make his own history! He has proven over and over again that golf is more important! Stop making excuses for him because you’re sounding like a little lamb that will follow him to the “debts” of ruin! His own family has turned their backs on him and it’s so obvious that Michelle has had enough of his egotistical behavior too. He acts like a nit-wit in public and I’m sorry…it’s embarrassing! I would love to ask you a personal question but I can bet the farm that I already know the answer! Be careful who you’re subservient to because no one can protect you better than YOU! It was fun debating with you…health happy New Year to you and yours!!

          • Jerry Lee

            Donna, I never agreed with you that Obama lied, I remember saying he made a mistake about the healthcare plan, and later corrected it. Speaking of lying, what are all these confirmed lies you mentioned? I notice you didn’t tell us what they were. Read the NY Times report on Benghazi, it was released a few days ago. I read very little about it at the time because there was so much conflicting information, most of it politically motivated. I’d rather hear it from an unbiased source. I blamed Bush for Iraq, there’s no way around that. It’s obvious you know nothing about Obama’s family, stop reading the gossip columns. Sorry hon, but I’m not subservient to anyone but if it makes you feel better, so be it. Why do I get the feeling your “personal question” is about race? It wasn’t “fun” to read that, thanks for showing your true self. Donna, are you still upset because the black man won TWICE? You have a nice life…

          • MizJones

            Jerry don’t assume…you know the rest! ps: I am one who gave the “black man” a chance.

          • Jerry Lee

            That was mighty white of you, Donna. btw… who was the RepublicanVP candidate in 2008?

            What about all those “confirmed lies” you mentioned?

          • MizJones

            Jerry, I’m so disappointed in you! The race card? Really?? How many times are you going to use that on me?! Typical…We’re gonna have to fight it out later, I have a few ballet classes to teach. Stay out of trouble!

          • Jerry Lee

            That’s a great way to avoid answering the question, Donna. Be careful with those pirouettes. Don’t forget to read that NY Times Benghazi report, or download and save it for later. I hear the Republicans are upset.

          • MizJones

            Jerry, “Great way to avoid answering you”?! NO! Here’s a news flash…I leave my house, I go to work, I make money to support myself and all the lazy bast@#ds that sit on the computer answering questions all day!
            Now here’s my answer; Go on your lib “news” programs and listen to them brag about all the petty things they are doing to everyone but themselves. I’ll give you an example…The Article We’re On!!! lol They brag about things that would embarrass me, I’d have to fire her! They’re making fun of Sarah Palins Xmas tree!! lmao!! Besides, I don’t have enough time to go down the list of eeveerythiiing idiotic they do ~ just sayin’

          • Jerry Lee

            Nice cop-out, Donna. How about just six? Since you think that there are sooo many, make it easy on yourself.

          • MizJones

            Ok 6…what was the question? lol (no I’m not blonde)

          • Jerry Lee

            Donna, the NY Times has just released an extensive report on Benghazi, you can read it online or download and save it. The main article is called “A Deadly Mix In Benghazi”, and additional piece is “The Facts About Benghazi”.

  • Tony

    Take your Palin hate somewhere else troll.

  • Tony

    It’s pretty rich when non Christians try to tell Christians what they are supposed to believe and how they are supposed to act.

    • qtdb7

      Democrats/liberals care about God? Seriously?
      If democrats/liberals really care about God, then they would
      NOT SCREW/DISTORT with the U.S. Constitution eveyday.
      Democrats/liberals and communist China just want to KILL unborn babies.

      • Ave Ashley Victoria E

        Truth!
        Communist China imprison’s Christian’s that have youth groups or “gathering’s” of 20+ people or more, your not aloud to pass out Bible’s let alone have a Christian Church (anywhere), imprisonment or death takes place to American’s and Chinese’s inhabitant’s of China ..

        Same in North Korea – even worse, and anyone intelligent enough to know what happens to Christian’s in Middle Eastern countries doesn’t need me to explain anymore …

    • PaMaDu

      what’s RICH is how so called christians sit in judgement of all those that don’t believe as they do, yet try and shove their belief’s down the “non christian’s” (as you call them) throat…

  • Starstorm

    This host is stupid. If you REALLY did pull out your good book…you would have noticed that the verse is wrong. LOL Dumb lady. Next time you want to quote the Bible, please site the reference correctly. Off by a few versus but still. Also, those were referring to idols, a Christmas tree isn’t an idol. Lady, stop pretending to be a Christian, it’s okay. You don’t need to pretend to be a Christian to be cool.

  • George Catman

    Would love to know what the point of that whole clip was. Sarah shows family Christmas photos on Fox and Friends and it irks MSNBC. Leave it to that rag to find a new way to malign Christmas and conservatives. Liberals are simply unhappy people.

  • Wizard

    Go home True Conservative, you’re drunk.

  • Stewart Hendricks

    wow, someone from MSNBC read the bible…she must have been about to explode…yeah, but the only problem is her interpretation of the scripture….in the bible they are talking about cutting down trees and carving them into idols and worshiping them in their homes…but hey, it’s NBC, investigative reporting would mean she would have had to work on that story….

  • MM

    The reporter wasn’t being serious when she was talking about the Christmas trees, it was to be ironic of all the times the conservatives have done the same thing for every other topic. It’s simply a taste of their own medicine.

    • AZTom

      …and what topics would those be???

    • snoway

      Watch it again. She’s serious. Just reading what it says.

  • wrestlefan01

    liberalism is a mental disorder

    • Jerry Lee

      …said the wrestling fan…

  • P_O_K

    This CNN reporter takes the bible passage out of context, and uses this for her own ill intent. That’s the truth, and the bottom line is that this is between her and God.

    • PaMaDu

      maybe you shouldn’t do that then…

      • P_O_K

        Do what?

  • Mike

    WOW, This IDIOT liberal woman just LIED about Jeramiah 10:10.

    It says NOTHING about a TREE. Liberals lies are so outright.

    Here is the verse…..

    JER 10:10

    But the Lord is the (A)true God;
    He is the (B)living God and the (C)everlasting King.
    At His wrath the (D)earth quakes,
    And the nations cannot (E)endure His indignation

    • PaMaDu

      OH for chrissake, are you an ostrich? head in the sand? JEEZUS, its ALREADY been ESTABLISHED a thousand time (exaggeration, but probably not by much) that the verse was wrong…every “new” person that comes on here says that same thing, as if EUREKA! DAMN….

      • PaMaDu

        called out with “fact” LMAO…such bs…someone new comes on here and repeats all that’s been said before and the Teapublican Palin ass kissers act like it’s been stated for the first time…get a grip would ya, LOL….

  • PaMaDu

    THIS explains a WHOLE lot….WOW…what a handful….

  • Rhonda Clark

    My Bible says not to add one thing to it or take one thing away! MSNBC better be careful.

    • Tim

      Conservatives take away all the time. They’ve taken away the things Jesus has said so they can try and legislate what the OT and Paul say.

      • PaMaDu

        sean hannity, megan whateverthehellhernameis on Fox news, ALL fox news

      • Tim

        Well, Jesus never said anything about homosexuality, though he did say a lot about divorce. Paul wrote about it, Leviticus has passages about it. Conservatives skip all that stuff that Jesus said to tell us that what Leviticus and Paul say should be the law of the land. Jesus said take care of the poor, conservatives label them lazy welfare queens. It’s almost like conservatives worship everything in the bible BESIDES Jesus.

        • Ave Ashley Victoria E

          LoL Yea okay here yah go … Correction needed ..

          Leviticus 18:22
          King James Version (KJV)
          22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

          Leviticus 18:23
          King James Version (KJV)
          23 Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion.

          Leviticus 20:13
          King James Version (KJV)
          13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

          Deuteronomy 23:17
          King James Version (KJV)
          17 There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.

          1 Kings 14:24
          King James Version (KJV)
          24 And there were also sodomites in the land: and they did according to all the abominations of the nations which the Lord cast out before the children of Israel.

          These are just a handful of scripture’s related to homosexual sin and other form’s of sexual sin are included in other parts of the Bible ..Which I have not included ….
          These are the examples of homosexual sin being condemned “without repentance” and forgiveness,
          I have not put down the other scripture’s of repentance and forgiveness of sexual sin …
          You can looks those up yourself …

          Divorce isn’t a sin either – it’s recommended in only extremely necessary circumstance’s …
          Being that my biological father tried counseling and staying in the marriage, for my half-sisters sake, his wife was not willing to; Divorce was not avoidable …

          On the bases of the “Poor” – i.e like “Me” ..
          Christ didn’t say it was the Rich’s responsibility to take care of the poor, (while the Rich shouldn’t covet there materialistic wealth, they should have choice to share it or not) nor through government control and “universal distribution of wealth” which is unconstitutional and stealing, it’s also a very Communist and Socialist method..

          Christ care’s about the “individual’s” heart and the wanting to give to another without “force” …
          Everyone is entitled to give what they want, how much they want to the poor or any charity or organization ..
          Christ also states in the Bible the “poor are a blessing”, they are gift to us, not a curse …

          • Tim

            Matthew 19:9 “I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery”

            Straight from the mouth of Jesus, sweets. I know very few divorced people who don’t remarry. Adulterers, the lot.

            Also, everything that’s not written by Paul about homosexuality is in the Old Testament. Thank you for solidifying my point. As for the poor being a blessing…Thank God kids are starving to death all over the world, I suppose.

          • Jerry Lee

            Proverbs 19:17- “Whoever is generous to the poor lends to the Lord, and he will repay him for his deed.”

            Deuteronomy 15:11- “For there will never cease to be poor in the land. Therefore I command you, ‘You shall open wide your hand to your brother, to the needy and to the poor, in your land.”

          • PaMaDu

            I know someone who was excommunicated from the Catholic church because he divorced his cheating wife…imagine that….

        • Jerry Lee

          Vladsmom- you may have missed these bible passages:

          Proverbs 19:17- “Whoever is generous to the poor lends to the Lord, and he will repay him for his deed.”

          Deuteronomy 15:11- “For there will never cease to be poor in the land. Therefore I command you, ‘You shall open wide your hand to your brother, to the needy and to the poor, in your land.”

          • Jerry Lee

            Vladsmom- Christians tithe to support the church and clergy. There are no figures on charitable donations to show which religious or political group donates more, and you know that. The rest of your comments about people on public assistance are just bad stereotypes, which you can’t prove.

            Don’t forget, when some Conservatives, like Sen. Jeff Sessions, criticize “welfare” they include every public assistance program, such as Medicare, Medicaid, Pell Grants for student loans, etc. Sen. Sessions himself used Pell Grants for his college education; he certainly benefitted from “welfare”.

            You have no figures to show that “liberals and most democrats are notoriously non-believers in Christ”.

            If someone doesn’t believe in Christ, that doesn’t mean they don’t donate to charity. As you know full well, there are many charitable organizations that aren’t Christian-oriented.

      • Tim

        You want some of this, sweet thing? 😉

  • Rhonda Clark

    I love Sarah and her family. Ppl are just jealous of her. Sarah Palin is one tough lady! This newscaster could not stay in the ring with Sarah. It would be a UFC TKO!

    • PaMaDu

      No jealousy here…blech…I think Joy Reid would KICK ASS in the ring, especially with Palin. hell, the public alone kicked Palin’s ass in 2008…’nuf said

  • NONYA

    SO LAIM!!! I CAN’T BELIEVE THAT EVEN BOTHERED TO RUN THAT ON NATIONAL TELEVISION!!! ANOTHER SHOT AT DUCK DYNASTY SYNDROME!!!

    • PaMaDu

      WTF? what does a district of Munich have to do with this??

  • Rhonda Clark

    JESUS DOESN’T NEED YOUR OPINION OF ONE OF HIS CHILDREN EITHER.MY GOD LOVES YOU AND SARAH PALIN.PPL BETTER STOP PLAYING GOD AND JUDGING. THAT’S GODS JOB.

  • Charlie D Evans Jr.

    Does this woman realize how damn stupid she sounds? With that silly look on her face I assume not.

  • Mike Benton

    Just when we think they can’t go lower they surprise us!!!

  • Biscuitom

    What a simple minded person. Vindictive and petty. Well, some people need more prayers and forgiveness than others. She is probably just mad that Obama didn’t pay for her gas and her free healthcare isn’t really free!

  • Jeff Gerstenkorn

    Guess her fact checkers were off a bit but there are mentions close to what she is trying to say in Jeramiah 10 : 8 &9 but just a bit off on the accuracy! It is talking about the Idols made from wood not a Christmas Tree! How out of it is MSNBC? They should at least check their facts or are they just using the old Obama that’s what was meant when I said that!! ( What most people call a LIE).

    • MERRY CHRISTMAS

      Oh goodness Jeff I have to agree with you …How silly was that? Yet she says it, with a straight face… like its fact ….Most prob. thought it was truth ….People are getting more hateful as time goes on …..

  • gary adams

    Can’t we just enjoy Christmas with our families with out the politically motivated knit-picking nonsense?

    • PaMaDu

      I had a great time at Christmas with my family, but Christmas is over and now waiting for new years… :-)

    • Jerry Lee

      We certainly can, gary adams! Just shut down this blog!

      • PaMaDu

        actually, it’s funny you should say that because it strikes me as ironic, how this blog is on “Patheos” yet there is really no monitoring of it. I mean, maybe it was just happenstance that yesterday, two comments were removed that I know of, which used two words that are very derogatory, but that’s all I’ve noticed thus far…

        • Jerry Lee

          PaMaDu, there were a lot of critical comments removed from the Newsbusters Interview thread, all of them critical of the Palins. One very nasty, profane Conservative Christian girl didn’t have any comments deleted.

          • Kristi

            Waaaaa

          • Jerry Lee

            Time for a diaper change, Kristi?

          • Tim

            I think what she’s saying is freedom of speech is only for conservatives. Because Jesus told them to persecute everyone that doesn’t espouse their politics completely. It’s somewhere in the Bible I’m sure.

          • PaMaDu

            Figures….

      • Teresa Davis McCormick

        you wish.

        • Jerry Lee

          Indeed I do! Bristol doesn’t even read it!

          • PaMaDu

            much less write it… oops

          • Kristi

            Then what are you doing here??? Just hoping to find something on here you can twist to somehow use against a Palin…sad how one person can make so many others totally stupid with hate…why??? Why are you all so afraid of her.

          • Teresa Davis McCormick

            wow you’re psychic? …..but how come you don’t know you’re a douche?? mmmmm

      • sadlyso

        Shut it down because it bring shame to so call “MSNBC reporter” who can’t even comprehend what she read in the Bible passage. What a shame and she got the nerve to show her face in a national tv. Talking about idiot! I feel your shame too Jerry Lee. You’re attacking the wrong social media….MSNBC should be shut down. You’ve been listening to MSNBC too long, you’re loosing your IQ as Bristol mentioned.

        • Jerry Lee

          sadlyso- and you’ve lost your ability to spell, sad to say. Bristol mentioned me? I feel so special.

  • MizJones

    Didn’t we separate church and state?! Let the Christians be Christians, let the Jews be Jews, let the whatevers, whoevers, whyevers be what they want! Religion doesn’t apply to politics, it applies to freedom and America IS still free. Why do you think everybody is climbing the walls to get here?!

    • PaMaDu

      “We establish no religion in this country. We command no worship. We mandate no belief, nor will we ever. Church and state are and must remain separate.” – Ronald Reagan

      It is part of a larger speech President Reagan gave at Temple Hillel in Valley Stream, NY on October 26, 1984:

      We in the United States, above all, must remember that lesson, for we were founded as a nation of openness to people of all beliefs. And so we must remain. Our very unity has been strengthened by our pluralism. We establish no religion in this country, we command no worship, we mandate no belief, nor will we ever. Church and state are, and must remain, separate. All are free to believe or not believe, all are free to practice a faith or not, and those who believe are free, and should be free, to speak of and act on their belief.

      At the same time that our Constitution prohibits state establishment of religion, it protects the free exercise of all religions. And walking this fine line requires government to be strictly neutral. And government should not make it more difficult for Christians, Jews, Muslims, or other believing people to practice their faith. And that’s why, when the Connecticut Supreme Court struck down a statute — and you may not have heard about this; it was a statute protecting employees who observed the Sabbath. Well, our administration is now urging the United States Supreme Court to overturn the Connecticut Court decision. This is what I mean by freedom of religion, and that’s what we feel the Constitution intends.

      • MizJones

        Thank you PaMaDu, now can you explain to me why the libs insist on making this a difficult practice? I’m afraid that I will be fed to a lion sometime in the near future! The paramount freedoms of this country as in, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, the right to bare arms, the right to a fair trial etc…are all being challenged. What are they doing and how in Gods name are they getting away with this?!

        • Jerry Lee

          Donna, how are liberals making it difficult for you, or anyone else, to exercise your freedom of religion and freedom of speech?

          • MizJones

            Jeeerry!! Hence the article we’re on!! lol OMgosh…

          • Jerry Lee

            Seriously, Donna? It’s more difficult for you and others to exercise your freedom of religion and freedom of speech because of this msnbc piece? Do you have a few more examples?

          • MizJones

            Seriously, Jerry? Are you kidding me with that question?! Look, two things… (1) you were way off with my question and (2) lets not prolong the agony!

          • Jerry Lee

            The agony of you showing proof? I realize it’s going to be difficult for you to prove those wild allegations, but hey, you’re the one who made them. Do the best you can, OK, Donna?

        • PaMaDu

          Seriously, you need to seek the answers to your questions within your own party. It’s the Teapublicans that are making it a difficult practice, and the dems/libs are the ones fighting FOR these rights/freedoms

          • MizJones

            PaMaDu, in case you haven’t noticed…this article is from MSNBC! lol cooome oooon!
            I don’t have a party, I party with everyone, I’m an independent. The libs waste time on bull s#@t like this, the reps are shoving the “war on Christmas” in our faces, the athieists picket funerals…sometimes the Libertarians are the only sane in the bunch! I think a person is nuts to follow an entire organization and live by their rules.

          • PaMaDu

            It’s a video from MSNBC as well as Billy Madison, the blog is Bristol Palin’s on Patheo’s, what’s your point?

          • MizJones

            Ok PaMaDu, I’ll talk slower for you…Isn’t this a clip of a lib making fun of a reps xmas tree on a lib “news” program ?? So how is this Sarah Palins (the rep) fault?! SMH

          • PaMaDu

            Let’s see,yes, Reid is a democrat, Ilast I knew) check. Making fun of Sarah Palin? I don’t see it that way…and MSNBC being liberal? MMM, not really. They report on both sides of the aisle, even had Ann coulter and Laura Ingram on the program. so I wouldn’t go so far as to say it’s a lib news channel…who said anything about it being Palin’s fault? She wrote a book that came out in Nov and a comment was made on it…BFD…

        • PaMaDu

          you need to ask your OWN party this. THEY are the one’s actually doing what you’re accusig the “libs” of.

          • MizJones

            Am I missing something here? Um…I told you that I don’t have a party and Um..Isn’t this a lib making fun of a reps xmas tree?! You sound confused…

  • Mommy of 2

    It’s in Jer. 10:3 thru 10:10. You have to read the whole thing. This woman clearly does not understand or know the first thing about the Bible. An Idol is something you worship as a God. I don’t know about you but if my family starts to worship our Christmas tree, we’re in deep trouble. I’ve never heard such blasphemes!!!!

    • PaMaDu

      LMAO…wow

    • RedMA

      Probably the same type of person who believed the idiocy that Jesus was a community organizer, Pontius Pilate was a governor.

  • Teresa Davis McCormick

    The Palin haters will be even more annoying as the elections loom

    • PaMaDu

      is she running again??

      • Jerry Lee

        Not in her lifetime. It’s too easy and profitable to do whatever you call it that she does now.

        • PaMaDu

          I know, she just made it sound like Palin had a shot at it… LOL

        • PaMaDu

          I read something about her possibly running for Senate… That will be fun to watch :-)

      • Teresa Davis McCormick

        no they just like to bring out the hatred of conservatives to distract from the democrats misdeeds

  • MERRY CHRISTMAS

    This poor lady just humiliated herself on national TV ….Nothing worse when you think your on to something and its a complete joke but unfortunately the jokes on you ….

  • cyndlou

    wow – love it when people use the Bible to be anti-Biblical

  • Doug Boekhout

    HOW, WHERE, & WHY does MSNBC get these idiot reporters. One would have to actually hunt for people that stupid, yet they seem to flock to of their network. Every one seem to flourish in ignorance, but again, look at their instructors, Matthews, Sharpton, Maddow, enough said.

  • OverTheCoastline

    This doesn’t even make any sense.

    It is, however, indicative of how utterly desperate the left is to pin something – ANYthing – on Sarah Palin and make it stick. They are clawing, grasping, REACHING for some kind of “aha” moment, or some instance of hypocrisy on Palin’s part, neither of which ever seem to materialize. Remember the 25,000 pages of e-mails from Palin’s tenure as governor of Alaska? Not only was there no instance of malfeasance or wrong-doing, there wasn’t so much as a cuss word! HaHa! I bet they didn’t see THAT coming. What other governor would be able to reveal all of their correspondence during their term, and still be able to hold their head high? I suspect only Palin would be able to do so.

    The further we go along, the clearer it is becoming to more and more people how correct Sarah has been all along about everything from the dangers of quantitative easing, to coining the term, “crony corporate capitalism”, to correctly identifying “death panels” in the Obamacare law. Not only is Sarah always right on target, she, herself is unwavering in her beliefs, unrelenting in her spot-on criticisms, and honest and forthright about her family, her life and the few mistakes she has made along the way. She remains standing tall in the face of unfounded criticism, nasty commentary and outright lies that would wither most people.

    As 2016 approaches, it is becoming more and more evident that Sarah Palin is the only true presidential candidate – regardless of party – that will be able to save our nation. Bold, courageous, possessing a warrior’s heart, and committed to the founding principles which have guided our nation for 237 years, she is our North Star from the Last Frontier, and she will right this country in its hour of need.

    • Tim

      You’re delusional, she’d never make an honest run at the office, because it’d be 4 years where she couldn’t charge an appearance fee on the off chance that she won.

    • Jerry Lee

      No she won’t, OTC. It’s easier and more profitable for her to keep releasing a ghostwritten book every year, making personal appearances, and being a “commentator” for conservative propaganda TV shows. Plus, she blew it in 2008 with her interviews, just check them on YouTube. Start with Katie Couric.

      • Anne Mills

        Katie Couric is a has been and continues to be unable to capture the audiences she had on the Today show when we only thought we knew her. The more we’ve gotten to know her over the last ten years or so the less we want to see her.

        • Jerry Lee

          Couric interviewed Palin in 2008. Her audience size today has nothing to do with that interview.

    • keysrat

      I totally agree. She would make the absolute best President but the left liberal media are so afraid of her that they will continue to drag her and her family through the mud. Sarah will probably not subject them to this level of torcher again. But she can continue to use her magnificent power to guide this country in the right direction and assist us in selecting leaders that are true constitutional conservatives. I have the upmost confidence in Sarah because she has always inspired to inspired to protect and defend this country and the American people.

    • Jerry Lee

      This video explains why Sarah Palin didn’t run for office in 2012, and won’t run again. Here’s a few comments from Steve Schmidt and John Weaver, top advisors to John McCain during the 2008 campaign: “A political apocalypse, a catastrophic election result, a mental case…”

      Be sure to watch to the end, otherwise you’ll miss “Sarah Palin seems genuinely committed to knowing as little as possible” from Margaret Carlson of Bloomberg News. http://tinyurl.com/laaogzh

  • jimmy

    OH YEAH JEREMIAH 10:1-5 IS EXACTLY TALKING ABOUT A CHRISTMAS TREE. THE CHURCH HAS ADOPTED MANY PAGAN WAYS LIKE THE FACT THAT YOU WALK INTO A CHURCH UNDER A PHALLIC SYMBOL (YOUR STEEPLE) AND THAT YOU WORSHIP NOT ON THE SABBATH (SATURDAY) BUT ON THE DAY OF THE SUN….THAS A FACT JACK!

    • Evelyn M Fox

      Jeremiah 10 is not speaking about the Christmas tree. No one carves a Christmas tree and worships the tree. When Jeremiah wrote this, there was no Christmas celebration going on.

      • jimmy

        WELL DUUUUHHHHH….THAS WHY I SAID IT WAS ADOPTED!

        • kukamie

          First off, the word is THAT not THAS. Lazy spelling and bad English get you nowhere. Second, who was it adopted by to change the meaning? The meaning doesn’t change! Sounds like you are someone who reads and responds to try and get people ticked off.

      • Rhonda Hunt

        Evelyn you need to reread the passage in Jeremiah it does not say anything about carving a tree,it says that one cuts a tree out of the forest with an axe,they decorate it with silver and gold,they fasten it with nails so that it will not fall over(Move) it is a pagan custom,and when you stoop down to place those gift under it,and then you remove them you will bow down to it,unless you have very long arms,point is that Yahweh cannot be represented by Idols made of wood and stone,Christmas is not in the Bible nor is it Commanded by Yahweh,we cannot sanctify(means To Set apart)anything which God has already forbidden to us,and your right Christmas was not around in Jeremiah’s day nor in Yeshua’s day they would not have touched it with a ten foot pole,it was only established when Constantine came along in the third century,to make it easier for the Christians to assimilate into his Roman Christianity,that’s also when the Times and laws changed that Daniel speakes of in chapter 7:25,and they changed the Sabbath to Sunday,Constantine though he claimed to be a Christian never renounced his pagan sun worship,and it was reflected in the thing he did.—–Jim Hunt

        • Evelyn M Fox

          1
          Hear what the LORD says to you, O house of Israel.

          2
          This is what the LORD says: “Do not learn the ways of the nations or be terrified by signs in the sky, though the nations are terrified by them.

          3
          For the customs of the peoples are worthless; they cut a tree out of the forest, and a craftsman shapes it with his chisel.

          4
          They adorn it with silver and gold; they fasten it with hammer and nails so it will not totter.

          5
          Like a scarecrow in a melon patch, their idols cannot speak; they must be carried because they cannot walk. Do not fear them; they can do no harm nor can they do any good.”

          6
          No one is like you, O LORD; you are great, and your name is mighty in power.

          7
          Who should not revere you, O King of the nations? This is your due. Among all the wise men of the nations and in all their kingdoms, there is no one like you.

          8
          They are all senseless and foolish; they are taught by worthless wooden idols. (Jeremiah 10:1-8 NIV Version). Shape it with a chisel is carving. I will not continue to go back and forth on this subject.

    • qqchris55

      Your FACTs are just a little off dude … Better read a little closer and understand GOD’s letter

      • jimmy

        UNLIKE MANY OF THE GOOD AND INFORMED CHURCH FOLK I DO READ THE LORDS WORD AS WELL AS THE HISTORY BOOKS

        • qqchris55

          Then you need to understand that the chapter is about Idol warship … Has NOTHING to do with the Christmas Tree … Know the Hebrew and Greek Manuscripts … Also too … Learn the Hebrew/Jewish calendar and how time was calculated … The Sabbath is on Sunday and Christ became our Sabbath … You need to do a little more reading … its not pick and choose

          Jimmy … There are pagan things going on … I will give you that … Most celebrate EASTER …(which is a pagan holiday) … instead they should be celebrating PASSOVER … Please let me say that it is nice you are in GOD’s word … Keep studying my friend … But read with understanding

        • Elizabeth Schneider

          We worship on Sundays because that is the day Jesus Christ resurrected. That is a Fact.

          • qqchris55

            You are correct Elizabeth … Know that it is PASSOVER … and NOT EASTER … GOD BLESS YOU

          • PaMaDu

            who’s fact?

          • Rhonda Hunt

            No Elizabeth it isn’t the day he was resurrected,he was resurrected on the Sabbath not sunday and there is no evidence that he was,the Bibly does not say he was,Yeshua died on Wednesday at three pm,which was the time of the evening sacrifice,was in the tomb before sundown,and rose exactly 72 hours later,thats three days and three nights just as he said he would,there is no scripture that makes void Yahweh’s Torah and changes the Sabbath to Sunday,none Yeshua gave the Torah to Moses,and only He and the father could make any changes to the Hebrew scriptures,His Commandments remain as they have always been, Yahweh does not change nor does his word change,except the sacrificial laws and the priesthood,which Messiah is Currently fulfilling,you are worshiping the Roman sun God on sunday,not the God of the Bible,Christianity has had it wrong sense it inception,the scriptures are Hebrew and must be understood from a Hebrew mind set not a greek mind set,Yeshua was a Jewish rabbi not a Christian,nor was Paul,Peter,nor the other apostles,only Luke was a gentile.—Jim Hunt

    • STFUTWIT

      That’s a really foolish statement since “Christmas trees” had not appeared yet with the Christian celebration on Christmas until after the 1840’s…..they were seen as pagan symbols up to that point in time……and you’re a Biblical scholar…….LMMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Tim

    Illuminati…it’s the same singular as it is plural. Illuminaties is not a word,

    • PaMaDu

      “Illuminatus” but Definitely NOT illuminaties, LOL

      • Michael L Clark

        hey sweetheart, Illuminatus is not a word at least not english

  • Ave Ashley Victoria E

    I’m from Pontiac and Detroit, yea um all the Liberal’s and Dem’s screwed up my city, the statistic’s and facts are there …

    • Ave Ashley Victoria E

      I know and experience it, they profusely attack my view’s, it’s not much of a surprise, they think they can define my lifestyle and experience’s by breaking every little thing I say apart, most isn’t anything to do with what I say, or it’s mockery … like they know what it’s like to walk in my shoes .. all they have are opinions and bias … not facts and definitely not my Life …

      • Jerry Lee

        Playing the victim really doesn’t suit you, Ave. No one ever alluded to knowing what it’s like to walk in your shoes, it’s your views that were disputed. It’s your anger and cursing that drew the most criticism.

    • Jerry Lee

      It’s that simple, liberals and Democrats ruined Detroit? Where can I see those statistics and facts online?

      • Ave Ashley Victoria E

        Really, I live it everyday, I see it everyday, why don’t you search and look up Pontiac and Detroit on your computer, is it that hard to find… Read!

        Flint, Pontiac and Detroit are the three most dangerous cities in Michigan (that’s not including Dearborn MI, based on Hostile and Violent Muslims towards Christian’s and Jews)
        with Chicago IL, following right behind, Democratic’s have been running these cities for “years”, so you cannot blame Republican’s or Conservative’s for that ..

        Also Chicago is dangerous because of “Gun Control”, which again was the result of “all Democratic’s” who pushed for it .. and now look at the city, no one’s free to Constitutionally protect themselves …

        • Jerry Lee

          So in other words, Ave, you don’t have any facts to back up your statement that all the problems are caused by Democrats. What I’ve READ is that the auto industry left town to save money elsewhere. Republicans wouldn’t have stopped that either. One reason these cities are dangerous is because everybody has guns, unlike Chicago. No guns, less danger.

          • Ave Ashley Victoria E

            No experience’s are Facts, and Fact are clearly on the Internet, your not a child right, so do your own research ..

            And you can go to Hell, because no ONE is ever taking my Gun Right’s Away, I’ll kill you if you try to harm me or my family (given anymore violence in my life, or Gun Control and Ban’s) – I will not obey ..

            ahahah Chicago is Dangerous because of the
            Lack of Gun’s, that’s a BIG LIE … LESS GUNS, LESS PROTECTION and the only reason Detroit and Pontiac and Flint are dangerous is because of “Criminal’s” and “Gang’s” etc. not “Gun Law abiding Citizen’s” like “ME” … Who don’t commit crimes ..

            Gun’s don’t kill people, I own many weapon’s, I’ve been trained sense 7 years old and spent my life around Gun’s, they don’t scare me ..

            What scare’s me is a Criminal having them and not me, taking away Guns from people like me, is an easy way to piss a sexual assault victim off, a mother, and well anyone who Constitutionally has a right to protect themselves, your obviously ignorant on this ..

            No Gun’s, more Communism and Socialism, this is how Adolf Hitler killed 6 million Jews and other’s ..

            Something I’m extremely Sensitive towards ..

            Gun Control will never be tolerated or respected by me .. EVER!!!!!

          • PaMaDu

            “sense 7 yrs old…” WOW…as for the rest of your post, THERE’S that “Christ-like Christianity” you all like to preach about….

          • Ave Ashley Victoria E

            I’m not preaching Christianity, I’m preaching on Gun’s,
            Are you blind and unable to read !!!! …

            I come from a normal pro-gun & hunting family, that instilled the right to protect myself, I was ingrained and trained around gun’s at a young age …
            I learned their are only three uses for a gun, and that is something I value and will protect.

            Unfortunately, the next person that try’s to sexually assault me again, will die, that is what gun’s do they protect those that are responsible and value safety of themselves and family, I would die for most people,
            I’m not dying for a criminal and no freedom to protect myself from one, but your to much of an idiot to understand that pain .. and Logic …

            So my so-called-Not -So- Christlike Self goes out the window when Liberal’s and Dem’s justify Gun Control over criminals committing crimes, instead of blaming the person behind the gun, they blame the gun itself, which is merely a tool in killing someone, it take’s a hand and brain for someone to kill.

            My Mercy is gone for those that say they hold up the Laws and Constitution of this land and ignore the
            2nd Amendment and what’s it’s for …

            I’m alot safer to be around with a Gun in a dangerous encounter, I pride myself on protection and individual freedom, I don’t know why you find that wrong or inferior, because your views are just that .. which is very insulting …

          • PaMaDu

            Blah blah blah blah blah… Looking for pity? Look elsewhere, not getting it from me. you come in here, pissed off ranting and raving like a lunatic, at people who disagree with you, who you don’t even know, under the guise of your Christianity, and now you just happen to throw out there that someone tried to sexually assault you at some time in your life… Go crawl back under the rock you came out from… You need help, seriously, and I seriously doubt, typing hatred to people you don’t even know, on the internet, isn’t the proper help you need.

          • Ave Ashley Victoria E

            Tried bitch, I’m not a fucking LIAR!!!!, you think that’s a joke, I was molested at 6 1/2 years old, abused from 7-17 by my step father and almost raped at 15 years old on public school property, that’s something I take serious, you honestly think I’m going to tolerate you bad mouthing me an mocking “sexual assault”, I’m not looking for “pity”, i’m looking for a women like you who should value your body and protecting it, gun’s do this …

            I was hoping you wouldn’t stoop so fucking inhumanly low and maybe come to some common ground as a female in the protection of are bodies and the right that comes with that is protected by are Laws !!!

            Let me know what It feel’s like being sexually assaulted, Mrs. Liberal Open -Minded Know It All …

            I need help, ahah., and you don’t … I don’t know you, you say .. .your giving me statements and opinion’s that I’m interpreting as hateful towards my views of protecting me and then insulting me, by assuming I’m lying about something so vile and evil as sexual assault, yea I’m the one that really need’s help ..

            I’m not typing hatred, I’m clarify to liberal’s like you, I’m not remaining on the ground or going to be forced on the ground by a criminal or rapist, therefore I protect myself ..

          • PaMaDu

            I don’t need to know your history. It doesn’t belong in this thread, nor does gun control.

          • Ave Ashley Victoria E

            obviously you do when you ATTACK IT !!!!

            I don’t give if I doesn’t belong on this thread, you do not have any control over what I bring up between another person (which was were this gun control topic came up from) or between me and you …

            I don’t care what does and doesn’t belong you do not dictate what I choose to speak on or bring up ..

          • PaMaDu

            Not believing your story isn’t an attack.

          • Ave Ashley Victoria E

            Yea it is, because only fool and sick individual’s bring up sexual assault and make it a lie for attention, NO that’s something I’ve experienced, the fact you think it’s – a story ?!!! Is beyond absurd .. and insulting..

            You have no idea what pain that has caused me …
            It’s not a story- but a testimony of what I and many other women have gone through and who most are quiet and hide it, the fact your willing to cross the line of respect and humanity and compassion on the basis of sexual assault make’s you far from human..

            I would never say something like that if it wasn’t true…

          • PaMaDu

            Well, I don’t know you from Eve, so quite frankly, I don’t know if you are telling the truth anyway, or not and the way you’ve come at me, since your first post to me, hasn’t endured me to you at all…

          • Ave Ashley Victoria E

            You must think that people are liars all the time and no one is honest, your an idiot .. people don’t say those things to not make a point, your pathetic …

          • PaMaDu

            Actually, quite the contrary, I’ve been told I’m too trusting of people and their words…I just don’t believe all people all of the time, you included.

          • Ave Ashley Victoria E

            That;s because you don’t like me and my beliefs, therefore you “assume” I’m a liar .. that crosses a line, mockery or telling another you don’t believe in the Sexual Assault experience they have to justify ( a really good justification) to own a weapon n which was really the main topic …

            Is in my opinion a dehumanizing act, you have no humility ..
            Me included, and what “logical” reason would you NOT believe my testimony and personal experiences,
            Why am I such a Liar to you ??? LoL

          • PaMaDu

            I didn’t say you were a liar, I said I don’t believe you. BIG difference. I don’t dislike you, I don’t even KNOW you. I haven’t agreed with your belief’s thus far. You call names and cuss for no reason, right off the bat. YOU attack right off the bat. You wished me harm because I don’t believe your story, and yet you wonder about my “feeling” towards you. That’s a bit crazy, in and of itself. I never said I don’t believe others stories about their “sexual assault experience” and owning a weapon. I just don’t believe yours. When I respond with sarcasm, you get more pissed off, LOL, that’s not my problem. That is something YOU have to deal with. People own weapons for all KINDS of reasons. Hell, years ago, my fiance was shot 6 times in his sleep, but he doesn’t own a gun, so to each their own. To me, and this doesn’t go for everyone, but I’m only talking to you, you are just words on a message board. It doesn’t affect me at all. the way you go off on me after reading my posts, frankly, cracks me up, because you try and demean me, (isn’t that what happened to you when you were allegedly assaulted? didn’t you feel demeaned?) tell me to just shut up, then continue to post responses to me…can’t have it both ways….

          • Ave Ashley Victoria E

            When did I threaten you and wish you harm ,you still haven’t expressed that or specified, and when are you going to get off of “the cuss words part”, you don’t think people don’t get angry and cuss … that’s a little unrealistic …

            Yes I cussed, Yes I get angry, and if you cannot figure out in so many of your original comment’s on “my post” or response to other’s of how you, yes you, may have commented back with something that offended “me” and possibly is something i’m “used to hearing”, and “happens to be hurtful etc” .. Then I’m at a loss in explaining or ignorance on that part …

            Sarcasm – is a root feeling of anger and mockery mixed together, it’s usually designed and mean’t to attack a position or ideology with disrespect, sarcasm is what I hate and what doesn’t work in conversation’s, its never amusing to watch someone sarcastically mock you for your beliefs, for any reason ..

            Your statement:
            When I respond with sarcasm, you get more pissed off, LOL, that’s not my problem.

            This is a screwed up view, it means you enjoy taking amusement in another’s pain, anger and fustration, which is what has been offending me, I don’t respond with LoL unless something is amusingly funny, which is rarely ever on a “serious political discussion” ..

            Politics and Faith are something I don’t find sarcasm i and humor in when talking about ..

            Your statement:
            isn’t that what happened to you when you were allegedly assaulted? didn’t you feel demeaned?)

            Um I “will” demean you with my words
            “when you say “allegedly assaulted” which is still implying I’m lying and not being honest about a sexual assault(s) ..

            While I brought it up to prove a point .. Still
            I feel demeaned when anyone doesn’t believe in someone’s Sexual Assault experience and mocks it a finds something amusing about it, and then from ton’s of experiences of other’s calling me a Liar for being a Sexual Assault Victim, is easily a way to piss of anyone … and Does ..

            Women don’t want other’s to not take them serious,
            I maybe words on a message board, but I’m a human typing them, therefore they have meaning, just like your’s do, why do you think I take you serious, I’m a serious person when it comes to various topics, this is very much one of them, glad to know my words are meaningless because I’m just a stranger and and words to you …

            Not everyone think’s like you, adjusting your views and trying to understand’s from someone else’s point of view, is being open-minded and understanding…

            That’s what I try to do, I don’t stay complacent in only my world, I try to understand other’s and their positions, which I know none by you, sense most of your post are mockery, sarcastic comebacks and ridiculing.

          • PaMaDu

            and here you are again, LOL…I’m not going to do your research for you. If you have a question on what you wrote me, look it up for yourself. Of course, I realize you could also edit your comments so that your wish for me is no longer there, but that’s on you.Cuss words don’t fade me, but of course that point was lost on you as well. Sarcasm is used to convey contempt. Take it or leave it. the rest of your writing is just nonsense to me. I have one of the most open minds around, but putting up with one’s bullshit I don’t do so well. So, if you want to have a “normal” discussion, and you back off from your constant barrage of attacks, and taking things so personal…then come back to me, if not, continue on…or don’t, your call.

          • Ave Ashley Victoria E

            You are so sick ..
            I’m am very much a christian when I comprehend and understand the right to protect oneself in a corrupt and sinful world,you disgust me that you think I would lie about bring up my testimony as a sexual assault victim, and my hatred and anger is directed at those that wish to remove guns from those like me, that would prefer the ability to remove any future oppression from another individual’s mean’s to harm me, another women or anyone else for that matter ..

            This is isn’t “pity” this is Life and Living it … To bad you cannot comprehend that …

          • PaMaDu

            yeah ok…

          • Ave Ashley Victoria E

            Really, then give an example ?!
            Because from were I’m standing you have no problem attacking me and I’m simply defending myself, while you make everything I say a joke or lie, when it’s far from that .

          • PaMaDu

            Your first post to me was an attack. I don’t have to prove anything, it’s all right in this thread. You don’t have to defend yourself at all to me, I’m not attacking you, you make me laugh and I don’t believe your story…that’s it. You don’t like what I write, stop writing/responding to me, LOL it’s really quite that simple

          • Ave Ashley Victoria E

            Which FIRST POST -their’s more than “1” ???

          • PaMaDu

            I said your first post, but it really doesn’t matter, pick any one of your many “first” posts to me….smh…

          • Ave Ashley Victoria E

            Also I’m not submissive, I will speak my mind and disagree with what I want when I want, unfortunately I’ve read your comment’s on and throughout this page, your not someone that has anything nice to say to other’s yourself, your a bully and I’ve read your words .. they are not all civilized and wholesome…

            No it isn’t that simple, if it was you would be ignoring me if you don’t like what I post and state, you can just stop posting on my comment’s and replying back to me, that’s kinda of double standard .. and hypocritical … if you ask me to, but have repeatedly continue to converse with me.

            I make you laugh because I defend myself and have views that are opposite of your’s, problem is you are just as nasty and full of sarcasm and mockery as you seem to assume that I am …

            I don’t find it funny when I read your comments, I merely look at them as your views I disagree with, also I’ve never made it humorous or a form of amusement to attack or mock other’s when I disagree with them, you have profusely done that to me, I also don’t point out other’s flaws intentionally to justify a point .. You do this ..

          • PaMaDu

            whatever you say, Ave…;-)

          • Jerry Lee

            “I’ve read your words .. they are not all civilized and wholesome…”
            Pot and kettle, Ave?

          • Ave Ashley Victoria E

            And for your ignorance, I’m mixed – Cherokee & Choctaw Indian, Middle Easter – Jewish and Caucasian, you think my post is offensive …

            Try explaining to me how it’s justifiable the fact Adolf Hitler used Gun Control to kill my people.

            I could go on and on, but I’m getting sick and tired of explaining how ignorant you are on the necessity of Gun’s for protection from other’s who have no intention of obeying the law’s …

          • PaMaDu

            who said I said it was offensive? you make me laugh, as all the other like you that get so riled up over the bullshit, LOL…this thread isn’t on Gun Control, Adolf Hitler is a quite a character, and I’m mixed- Spanish/French (Basque), Yaqui…what’s your point?

          • Ave Ashley Victoria E

            So I brought up guns between me another person, and you decided to stick your nose in it, now your complaining about me defending myself, after you mocked my statement’s above … Gun Control and Hitler have alot in common, my point was that people are oppressed easily with out weapon’s, that was my argument against the person I was originally talking to and now you ..

            This thread may have nothing to do with the conversation and topic I was stating, it’s irrelevant though, I brought it up because another brought something related to it, therefore I will talk about it, considering it’s extremely important to me… …

          • PaMaDu

            Then fight on, boo boo! Fight on…

          • Ave Ashley Victoria E

            Just shut up .. you think your funny, your not …
            Your a joke, your not willing to have a conversation
            without adding in Mockery or Satire ….

          • PaMaDu

            Naw, I think I will continue to respond, to you and others that I choose, but let me help you out here with a little something…check your grammar… HAPPY NEW YEAR! Learn something new! 😉

          • Ave Ashley Victoria E

            Seriously?! .. LoL
            I’m not a grammer teacher nor do I care about “every”
            little mistake I make, And sense your so incompetent
            and cannot read, I never stated that you could’t respond,
            I just implied to back off of your satire …

            Your mentality of instigating and childishly nit picking is really unadult-like and unimportant to everything
            I’ve been trying to defend or originally point out…

            All you are capable of is negating the Questions, Opinion’s or Fact’s I point out, mostly between another and not you ..

            And you think that attacking of someone flaws makes for an intelligent conversation, it’s doesn’t ….

            Ohh by the way if it makes you any happier,
            I apologize for “allowing my frustration and anger
            to show through my cuss words”. “And Humane Qualities”

            But I’m not apologizing for telling the truth through what fact’s and experience’s I do know based on
            Political Position’s I have,
            I’m not apologizing for believing in Christ and being a Christian that has failure’s just “like everyone else”
            (and admits it),
            I’m not apologizing for my views on this post ….
            And I’m not changing or going to try proving
            anything to anyone including you …

            I’m an Honest Person and that’s not changing.. :)

          • PaMaDu

            and you tell me to “back off the satire” you’re really a HOOT if nothing else to me, LOL YOU started the attack on me with your very first post. If you can’t, won’t or otherwise look back and see it for yourself, you go ahead and cry “victim” of my satire and sarcasm and whatever cute little term your coin, IRDGAF, LOL…you don’t need to prove A N Y T H I N G to me, I am nothing to you, just words you don’t like on a blog, really, BFD. You keep harping about your experience as if to try and convince me it happened. I don’t believe you. That shouldn’t bother you, you don’t know me. I don’t know you at all. You’re a trip, to be so off topic on this thread, and get pissed off that someone doesn’t believe you…Maybe you need a break from posting? Seriously…have a great day!

          • Jerry Lee

            “And you can go to Hell”
            More anger from sweet Ave…

          • Ave Ashley Victoria E

            I’m 21 and a gun owner and carrier, that’s never changing, and “More Gun, Less Violence” “Gun Owning and Law Abiding Citizen’s” “Don’t Kill People” “Criminal’s Do” ..

            MY Gun’s and Weapon’s aren’t going anywhere, I’m not obeying any laws passed either …

            I have facts obviously you didn’t find them, Auto industry has nothing to do with crime rate’s or gun’s contributed to violence verses preventing violence ..

            Or the most committed crimes that make these cities unsafe …

            Chicago is dangerous because of the lack of gun’s for law abiding gun owner’s, that need and want them, your Liberal logic is what justifies the sexual assault my friend experienced, in a state the was a no-gun’s allowed, she had no way of wining against another Man with a gun (a criminal), so people like you don’t deserve any acknowledgement on Gun’s etc ..

            Considering they save life’s in the right hand’s …
            and kill in the wrong hand’s .. That’s pure common sense …

          • Jerry Lee

            Ave said: “I have facts obviously you didn’t find them”

            No I couldn’t, how about you give me a few links that show that all the problems in Detroit and Pontiac are caused by Democrats? Thank you. btw… a blogger’s opinion is not a fact.

          • Ave Ashley Victoria E

            I don’t have opinions, WHEN I LIVE HERE SMART ONE !!!!
            And I will send you Links … Sense your incompetent …

          • Jerry Lee

            Thanks, Ave. Have you read Charlie LeDuff’s book on Detroit? He found more than one reason for Detroit’s decline.

            Since you live there, I’m sure you’ve heard about Michigan’s Tea Party Governor Rick Snyder’s plan for a new $650 million Detroit Red Wings hockey arena. Almost half of that $650 million will be paid with public funds. The Red Wings are owned by a billionaire.
            http://tinyurl.com/mmynnwp

          • Ave Ashley Victoria E

            He’s not a Conservative or Tea Party SUPPORTER, @Snyder (My family hates him) …

            “HE’s A REPUBLICAN/Progressive”!!!

            He’s a Democratic in Republican Clothes

            Tea Party – is the same as “The Boston Tea Party” that Took Place on December 16, 1773….

            (Wikipedia) Tea Party
            The Tea Party movement is an American political movement that is primarily known for advocating a reduction in the U.S. national debt and federal budget deficit by reducing U.S. government spending and taxes.

            The movement has been called partly conservative,partly libertarian,and partly populist.
            It has sponsored protests and supported political candidates since 2009.

            The name is derived from the Boston Tea Party of 1773, an iconic event in American history.

            Anti-tax protesters in the United States have often referred to the original Boston Tea Party for inspiration.

            References to the Boston Tea Party were part of Tax Day protests held throughout the 1990’s and earlier.

            By 2001, a custom had developed among some conservative activists of mailing tea bags to legislators and other officials as a symbolic act.

            I’m A Constitutional Conservative …

            No I Didn’t Vote for Him Either and I Don’t Support Republican’s … Duh!

            Thank you for stupidly “assuming” your really good at that.

            I don’t care about Charlie LeDuff’s book, you also realize he’s a “Fox -Political Independent Journalist” – Who is merely talking about the corruption and crime in”Detroit Only” ..

            He’s not talking about the comparison’s of “Chicago’s Strict’s Gun Laws” and the Highest “Crime Rate” and Detroit also…

            And “Detroit, Flint and Pontiac’s” Crime Rate which is due to Hate Crimes, Poverty, Gang’s and Simply Put Homicides, by Criminals – ”
            Has nothing to with “Gun’s” being a problem –
            “It’s the Culture and People that are the Problem” ..

            “NOT LAWS ABIDING CITIZEN’S LIKE ME” ..

          • Jerry Lee

            “Thank you for stupidly “assuming” your really good at that.”

            Thank you, Ave, for living down to my expectations with that nasty remark. “your” should have been spelled “you’re”, and you should have placed a semicolon after “assuming”.

            You should contact The Nation & Dave Zirin and Bill Moyer’s web site and straighten them out about Gov. Snyder not being in the Tea Party, as they stated.

            You’re a Constitutional Conservative? Then you must have been thrilled when the Supreme Court upheld the ACA/Obamacare! Maybe you can write the first Wikipedia page on the CC.

            So Charlie LeDuff is “merely talking about the corruption and crime in”Detroit Only”. Perhaps his insights are also relevant to Pontiac and Flint, since they all had long term involvement with the auto industry. You do realize that he works for a Fox affiliate in Detroit, and also worked for the NY Times for 12 years and won a Pulitzer prize as part of a team that wrote the series “How Race Is Lived in America”?

            So…. ya got those links yet, Ave?

          • Ave Ashley Victoria E

            Really on my Grammar Again, is that how you justify your intelligence, and yea well stupid isn’t a bad word, just a fact of calling someone ignorant without saying “ignorant” ..

            Well maybe I will because I “hate” Snyder
            … and then there’s always liar’s to, or people who think they are apart of one party and are not ….
            He’s not a Tea Partier at all …

            I’m not going to write a page unless I feel called too, plus as you “profusely” have noted many time’s out of arrogance and irrelevancy of my poor grammatical abilities, due to my natural lack of not being good with grammer over “speaking proper English” ..

            I’m not going to “write” a “page”, which is exactly why
            I’m in a Scientific Field, Health Field, and Faith related Field ..

            I don’t pay that much attention to my Grammar when it has always been my weakest subject compared to Politic’s, Math, Science, and Faith etc. …

            I like how you use it to feel more superior that me, trying to dumb me down isn’t going to work, because of my weakness and imperfection in spelling, grammar, and punctuation …

            Which is why we have spell check .. and sometimes that doesn’t save us .. that’s just realistic, unless you are Photographic like my 17 year old brother, unlike me I have a “Sever ADHD Disorder”, which I’m now pointing out because that contribute’s to my impulsiveness, hypersensitivity and chemical imbalance in the brain, that prevent’s me from retaining information, which is why I needed tutor’s throughout my life, even though I’m independent and self-taught ..

            Obviously you don’t know the Meaning of Constitutional Conservative –
            It mean’s I’m a Conservative that uphold’s the Constitution Amendment’s…
            And laws that Constitutionally fall in line properly with them.
            Anything illegal or corruptly going against the Constitution, is what I’m against, like “Gun Control” etc.

            Pontiac is were I currently live which can be just as Dangerous as Detroit, but isn’t presently as
            Dangerous as Detroit, and Flint is in First place and Detroit in 2nd for being the most Dangerous Cities in Michigan..

            That still doesn’t answer the question on Gun Control and Gun Crimes related to these Cities which was what we were talking about with the “Comparison” to “Chicago” and their most dangerous cities ..

            Your focusing on a Man’s book and views and statistics of Michigan’s Most Dangerous Cities..

            Not Michigan’s Cities versus Chicago, and my extreme disagreement of Gun Control being “NOT” logical and realistic …
            In Chicago for it’s Unconstitutional Strictest Gun Laws …

            And I’m still looking at “Link’s, Blog’s, Websites, and Statistic’s” ..,

            Alot of the Statistic’s I’m finding between Detroit and Chicago are from “2012”.
            I’m having difficulty finding just recently pasted “2013”, and I’m looking at information only coming from Detroit and no Chicago statistic’s for 2013 can be found,
            I’m still looking…

            Also again the ignorance is still their with you pointing at “The Auto Industry”, when are conversation is supposed to be on “Crime Rates and Violence”, in “Predominantly, Democratic and Liberal Cities”, that are higher in Crime related to “Gang’s, Poverty etc.”

            So be patient… :)

            P.S there is No Separate Race’s, their’s Only Nationalities and Culture’s, and explain to me what or How …
            “How Race Is Lived In America”,
            important to are conversation by Charlie … ???

          • Jerry Lee

            Ave- I never would have pointed out your grammatical mistakes if you hadn’t called me stupid. As I’ve said before, you need to tone down the anger.

            The full title of the book is “Detroit: An American Autopsy”. He also examines what the situation there means for the decline of other cities in America that have lost their manufacturing base. I was pointing out his background to show that he’s not with the Fox News cable TV show, he’s with a local show.

            “Also again the ignorance is still their…”
            So are your angry, nasty comments. There’s more than one conversation here, not the just one you want to focus on. Scroll on up and you’ll see that the conversation started with me asking you to provide facts to prove that Democrats and liberals caused all the problems in Detroit, which was your claim.

          • Ave Ashley Victoria E

            Really, you don’t have to be a rocket scientist, to look up yourself the Governors and Political Leaders that have been in Detroit for the last “50+” years and most of all the leader’s have been Democratic./Liberal and have destroyed this city with corruption and greed and lie’s in Politic’s …

            Kwame Kilpatrick is just one example …
            I never said just in”Detroit” I also pointed out specifically “Chicago” and comparisons of crimes violence….

            You also are negating the fact this was based on “Guns”, you still haven’t logically given a factor reason of why “Gun’s are Bad”, and “Why people shouldn’t have them” … ???

          • Jerry Lee

            Corruption, greed, and lies certainly created problems, but the auto industry packed up and left all three cities. That’s a much greater factor in the area’s economic collapse. Republicans never would have stopped that.

          • Ave Ashley Victoria E

            Your avoiding my question and points, also I cannot find any clear and accurate information on the basis of Chicago’s Crime rate, except for the statistics of 2012, and not 2013..

            On another note Detroit’s crime rate has actually dropped drastically based on the Sheriff of Detroit Police, who said crime has dropped dramatically in Detroit of 2013, and he also noted the best way for others to stay safe is to
            “ARM THEMSELVES” “WITH A WEAPON” ..

            The Auto industry, has nothing to do with economic collapse & Cultural Morality 50+ years ago up to present, it also has nothing to do with the “Democratic’s” in my City’s Offices producing nothing to improve this city etc.

            The auto industry also has nothing to do with
            “Crime Rate” committed by Criminals verse
            Law abiding citizens, and your lack of justification
            for others –
            NOT be able to protect themselves ..
            which is where this conversation ends, because I don’t associate with people that don’t support others carrying a Gun to protect themselves from the “Criminal’s” on the streets who won’t and don’t respect the laws, AS I DO..

          • Ave Ashley Victoria E

            And actually YES THEY DID TRY TO STOP IT BASED ON VOTES, but then again the Democratic’s in Office didn’t do anything for an “alternative” in preventing the Auto Industry from collapsing..
            And their choice in how they “tried to help” the
            Auto Industry in the first place.

      • PaMaDu

        you might have to wait until Jan 2014 before they present any kind of so called factual proof on that, Jerry Lee….

    • PaMaDu

      you’re confused, Eric (Holder-as if that’s your real name, LOL) you racists and bigots do NOT use facts!

  • Jerry Lee

    The way the Republicans take care of the poor is too cut food stamp payments. Kick ’em when they’re down.

  • Mark Steele

    Jeremiah 10 is talking about carving a tree into an idol. Idol worship was a big problem then.

  • Bigwhit

    MSNBC: You must have skipped the book of Proverbs on your way to reading Jeremiah. Go back a few books and reread,

    “An honest witness does not deceive, but a false witness pours out lies.

    Stay away from a fool, for you will not find knowledge on their lips.

    The mocker seeks wisdom and finds none, but knowledge comes easily to the discerning.

    The wisdom of the prudent is to give thought to their ways, but the folly of fools is deception” (Proverbs 14:5-8 NIV).

    This might give you an insight as to why your “news” is laughable to most of society. The Christmas tree is not used as an idol to worship by Christians as the reporter intimated.

    • Tim

      I went and read Song of Solomon and now have no idea why Christians are such prudes.

      • Bigwhit

        Ah, mockery; a wonderful trait of man. In the spirit of my first posting, I will try to help you in your quest for knowledge. I will assume you are referring to the Book of the Bible rather than the novel. If so, I would argue that it is not just Christians that are prudish, but rather most people who consider themselves religious are prudish about sexuality, regardless the religion.

        As far as the Book is concerned, I would also assume you prescribe to the notion that the “Song of Solomon” is about promiscuity. I, on the other hand, think of Solomon’s writing as a trilogy. The first, Song of Solomon, speaks to the lust-fulness of youth; Proverbs, speaks to the wisdom we gain in maturity; and Ecclesiastes, which speaks to the cynicism we gain in old age. As a trilogy, it shows us the cycle of humanity; youth as open and free to express themselves, middle age as coming to terms with the wisdom we have gained, old age as a reflection and trying to make sense of humanity.

        That’s my take, read on good Sir

    • Rhonda Hunt

      BigWhit do you think so,do you think that you or anyone can sanctify what Yahweh has already cursed,when he warned us not to use pagan customs in worship of him,try to get a Christian to give up his Christmas tree and tradition and see if it is a Idol or not,they will fight you tooth and nail,Yahweh cannot be represented by anything made of wood or stone,nor can Yeshua,so you keep on believing that and see where it gets you.—Jim Hunt

      • Bigwhit

        Jim: I sanctify nothing. I don’t presume to know Lord’s word nor intent. I only know that which I have learned from other men as interpreted by men. The passage follows…

        Hear what the Lord says to you, people of Israel.

        This is what the Lord says:

        Do not learn the ways of the nations or be terrified by signs in the heavens, though the nations are terrified by them.

        For the practices of the peoples are worthless; they cut a tree out of the forest, and a craftsman shapes it with his chisel.

        They adorn it with silver and gold; they fasten it with hammer and nails so it will not totter.

        Like a scarecrow in a cucumber field, their idols cannot speak;
        they must be carried because they cannot walk. Do not fear them; they can do no harm nor can they do any good.” (Jeremiah 10:1-5 NIV).

        I appreciate the warning but I am secure in my belief that Christians do not WORSHIP the Christmas tree, rather, they use it as an ornament. Much like one uses flowers to adorn a room. In my years, I have seen no Christian praying to a tree in idol as a representation of Yahweh. Nor have I seen any Christian worshiping these items as a representation of any false entity.

        I have read comparisons of paganism to modern Christianity, mistletoe, yule logs and the use of trees and still stand by my statement that Christians do not idolize these. I don’t dispute the use of these items in pagan practices.

        My reading of Jeremiah 10 is that trees are cut and a craftsman chisels the wood into an idol. It was a common practice to carve idols of wood and hammer sheets of silver and gold onto them, adorn them with precious cloths. Additionally, Canaanites carved trees into Asherah poles which were related to the worship of the fertility goddess Asherah. This is the practice I believe was warned against.

        Of note, I particularly like the command, “Do not fear them; they can do no harm nor can they do any good.” (Jeremiah 10:5 NIV).

  • mowglidude

    First of all, it’s Jeremiah 10:3-5, not 10-10, lol. First, there is the immediate context of this passage. The very next verse, 10:5, goes on to say, “Like a scarecrow in a melon patch, their idols cannot speak; they must be carried because they cannot walk. Do not fear them; they can do no harm nor can they do any good.” This passage and the passages that follow make it crystal clear that the “decorated tree” that Jeremiah was talking about in 10:3-4, was a tree that was cut down and made into an idol, a very common custom in the ancient world. 10:8-10 also confirms this, where the wooden idols are contrasted with the LORD, who is the true and living God.

    Second, when we search the rest of the Old Testament, we find many other examples of trees being planted, cut down, or carved into idols. One of the most common examples of a tree idol was the Asherah, mentioned often in the Old Testament. Asherah was a pagan goddess that was worshiped throughout the Mediterranean world. She was considered to be the goddess of the sea, the consort of El, and the mother of Baal. She was always represented as a tree or pole, either planted or erected, then decorated.

    From the foregoing, it is abundantly clear that the “decorated tree” to which Jeremiah 10 refers is an idol, very likely the Asherah. Therefore, it is very superficial Bible interpretation and pure silliness to understand this passage as directly referring to the use of a fir tree for Christmas!

  • Donna Voluntine

    Lady, that was about the most ignorant comparison I have heard anyone make in my life. You are very ignorant. If you are going to talk about something at least talk about something you know something about! And yes, may God have mercy on your soul because if you don’t know the true meaning of Christmas as being the birth of Christ you are going to need His mercy.

    • PaMaDu

      Donna, sounds like you are trying to shove your belief’s down someone else’s throat…funny, someone else that probably doesn’t even read this blog, but hey, have at it, LOL

  • https://www.facebook.com/SpeakTheTruthAndStandOnTheFactsLinkPlease?ref=hl maria

    Great job Bristol! Every time any pundit afflicted with PDS rambles on, the clip you so brilliantly chose from Adam Sandler’s movie Billy Madison, will speak for me.

    • Tim

      Not smart enough to come up with words of your own eh? Bristol and Maria, birds of a feather :)

  • Tim

    Ah, comparing federal level to municipal level. Reaching at its best. The poor that reap the most benefit at the federal level are the conservatives that hate it, they’re just good at letting themselves be manipulated. And you wish I was aborted? I thought you wanted some of this business that’s still running down my leg 😉

  • Tim

    He actually said 57 states, if you’re gonna call out a gaffe you should call it out properly, child.

  • Tim

    Didn’t you hear I’m a big boy now?! I have a job spitting in your food and everything!

  • Elizabeth Schneider

    Um, Excuse me, but Jeremiah 10:10 actually says, “But the Lord is the true God, he is the living God, and an everlasting king: at his wrath the earth shall tremble, and the nations shall not be able to abide his indignation.”
    So, if you’re going to call someone out for pretending, you had better have your facts straight. Making something up and pinning a Bible reference does not make it Bible.

    • Carol

      Yes, they need to get their references right. She actually quoted Jeremiah 10:3 – 5. But, she totally took it out of context.

  • Ave Ashley Victoria E

    Thank you for attacking “MY” Single Mother that had me out of “wedlock” at 19 .. yea you truly are a compassionate conservative aren’t you – NOT!!!!

    By the way my mother may have not gone to College, but she graduated from High School just like Bristol did .. the only difference is my mother remarried a abusive step father to me, and was to Poor to go to College, Bristol come’s from a wealthy family, I do not and neither did my Mother…

    Your so -called-conservative values are extremely misplaced …

    Palin’s are expressing their freedom to spread the word of God, which if your so Conservative and Christian, you would know plenty of scripture that says to preach or publicly declare your Faith, to hide it or deny it, is denying Christ and his word .. .

    Your simply saying that she should shut up, because she is Christian and expressing it in her book and in Public, which is “very Free and American” to do … Apparently you don’t know your Faith and Constitutional Religious Freedoms …

  • Jerry Lee

    Eric, I write my own comments, unlike your heroes the Palins. Joe Biden’s in the White House, Eric, my man. He won twice, along with Obama.

    • Anne Mills

      Yes. They won every state where voter i.d. was not required. That’s not suspicious at all…

    • Anne Mills

      Joe Biden? Speaking of gaffes….

      • Jerry Lee

        Winning twice is a gaffe?

  • Ave Ashley Victoria E

    Your opinion is so far from understanding, forgiving and humble, it’s so very opposite … ;(

  • Bill589

    Thank you, Bristol. It would be a good laugh if it wasn’t portrayed as real news. . . . I guess it’s a good laugh anyways: If they’re going to attack you regardless, might as well laugh.

  • Stevon f. Nutt

    MSNBC-Idiots at work!

  • MJ’s Farm

    exactly, an idiot at work

  • Bob Helton

    I thought it was Saturday night LIVE at first !! OMCod !!

    • PaMaDu

      “OMCod” That’s actually pretty funny!

  • Gary

    That made absolutely no sense. Who is the target audience here? I would guess it would be followers of the DNC and the un-educationable. (I know that is not a word, but then until “Seinfeld” neither was “Festivus” and before that “Kwanzaa”.

    • PaMaDu

      “Kwanzaa” was WAY before Seinfeld…are you kidding? So was “Festivus” for that matter…like mid to late 60’s…

  • Gary

    ).

  • Guest

    My parents have more than one Christmas Tree… and my dad is a pastor! I guess I need to have a serious talk with my parents about their sins.

    Hahaha… silly news lady!

  • PaMaDu

    “My type?” Interesting…and where did I say I would enjoy it? I just said Joy Reid would KICK ASS, and that the public alone kicked Palin’s ass in 2008.

  • PaMaDu

    you can’t even QUOTE a faux pas correctly, dear god…

  • Rhonda Hunt

    Well I’m not an Obama supporter,and I like Sara Palin,but in this instance Bristol is wrong,the Amplified Bible clearly calls the tree an idol,the fact that the Christmas tree and Christmas has Pagan roots,there is no doubt,if a person would research it they would learn about it for themselves,she refers to the Christmas tradition,does she not know that the traditions of men make the word of God of none effect,Yeshua was not born on December the 25th,but rather on the first day of Sukkot the feast of tabernacles,and was circumcised on the eighth day in the September/October timeframe,so the lady from MSNBC was correct about Jeremiah 10:3-5 but she was making light of not only Sara but the scriptures as well.by the way This old Covenant is still valid to day,it has not passed away nor been nailed to the cross,the sacrificial laws and the priesthood is currently being fulfilled by Messiah Yeshua.—–Jim Hunt

    • Missy Smith Hodo

      Jeremiah10:3-4 actually says, “For the cult idols of the nations are nothing, wood cut from the forest, wrought by craftsmen with the adze, adorned with silver and gold. With nails and hammers, they are fastened, that they may not totter.” (New American Bible). These verses are talking about idols made of wood, adorned with silver and gold, not Christmas trees! In fact, at the beginning of the Advent season, a decorated tree is placed inside the sanctuary of my Roman Catholic Church.

  • PaMaDu

    you must have been watching MSNBC when you typed it, because they were showing a program about Jim Jones

  • http://libbyspinkvanity.blogspot.com Kimberly

    Trees are of the devil!!! Ack! Look out!!! Cut them ALL down. Just remember to call the street you live on a name of one of those trees. Maybe this news anchor better cover her arms and her head. The bible says that too. *eyeroll*

  • KooKKy

    Slooooooooow news day?

  • Abigail

    I’m sure many people have said this, but I do come from a different background so it might make a difference. I have associated with a lot of Christians who do not celebrate Christmas because of the (at this point I must say possible) pagan associations with it, and I myself have not celebrate Christmas for a couple years because of that in fact. A lot of people, Christian people, who talk about not using a Christmas tree do use that verse to say that we should not decorate a Christmas tree. When read in context, one can find that that is not an accurate reading, but that is a realistic theory out there that even some Christians do hold to.

    The stupidity that I find is the last line. You mean there’s more than one root meaning of Christmas? Please, pray tell, what is it? Oh! I know! Santa’s and his wife’s anniversary, right? (*Massive amount of eye rolling*)

  • Anne Mills

    What is wrong with this woman? She seemed to think she was being cute and clever. Such drivel out of a journalist or anchors mouth. This is news? This is interesting? Again, the tolerant Left shows it’s intolerance. She’s going to quote the Bible? Her hair is not her “crown of glory”, it’s cropped. Her arms are bare. Her spirit is mean and mocking. Talking about Sarah’s “manifesto”…What!??? Did no one preview her speech? Does she have a boss that thought any of what she said was going to say was worth saying? I saw the clip from Billy Madison first and thought it was going to be a little mean spirited towards a hapless anchor that was just giving it his or her best. Then I watched the woman and the Billy Madison clip as a response is, unfortunately, right on.

  • Anne Mills

    Your comment would have worked except for the black comment. “It is amazing how this idiot has such hate…” would have worked better. Her skin color has nothing to do with the fact that she comes across as a mean spirited idiot.

    • PaMaDu

      Oh PLEASE, JUdewas just being honest in her comment…she said exactly what she meant, black comment and all…

  • Lloyd Sessums

    Tasteless! Are they holding her to the standards after Jesus?

  • tsjay310

    I can’t believe that no one at that big television network, stepped in and said “hey, we can’t broadcast this, this is just flat out stupid…and pointless” yet, here we are.

  • surfgirl

    This stupid twit doesn’t know her bible. It was talking about idols the people were making. Does anyone really watch these bobble heads?

  • La_verdad_duele7

    Wao, so this lady discovered a passage in the bible in 2013 that no other bible scholar has ever found in many many years, to warn all Christians about Christmas Trees. Hummm, someone needs to call the Vatican and tell them that this lady has found something in the bible that they missed. I am sure they could use a good laugh.

  • Stephen Ramey

    “Most 19th-century Americans found Christmas trees an oddity. The first
    record of one being on display was in the 1830s by the German settlers
    of Pennsylvania, although trees had been a tradition in many German homes much earlier. The Pennsylvania German settlements had community trees as early as 1747. But, as late as the 1840s Christmas trees were seen as pagan
    symbols and not accepted by most Americans.” – http://www.history.com/topics/history-of-christmas-trees

  • Ilovemydawg88

    For the record Jesus was NOT born on Dec 25th or anywhere near the winter solstice. He was born in Sept.. The Christmas tree is a pagan celebration of the winter celebration. Otherwise you are right on the mark.

    • jja3298

      A decorated tree that was worshiped is a pagan custom that had gone on for centuries before the birth of Jesus Christ. However, a “Christmas tree” is nothing more than a festive way of celebrating Christmas (Christ’s Mass). It has no spiritual meaning of and in itself unless someone gives it to the tree. But your are right, Jesus Christ was not born on December 25th, we just celebrate it on that day for several religious reasons including its economic impact.

  • Star

    She picked a verse from the Old Testament before Jesus was born and before Christians had Christmas trees.

    • whomatters

      More than a thousand years before.

    • David Smith

      And before “Christians” existed.

    • linreis

      probably googled ‘tree’, bible…

  • gobrenda3

    She has totally misinterpreted the passage. If you cross reference it to Isaiah 40:19-20 in the King James Version, it means we aren’t supposed to liken God to a graven image. Then he describes the graven image as men cutting a tree (the wood) to make the graven image, using wood that won’t rot ( like mahogany), and then pour molten gold and silver over it to make an idol. It isn’t in a tree form anymore, it’s carved into an image then covered with molten gold and draped with silver chains. The idols of old were huge, they were made of trees first and then covered with gold. It was NEVER meant to mean a Christmas tree- it goes to show how spiritually illiterate MSNBC really is…. wow. And she comes off like she’s some sort of a smarty pants and not only mocking Sarah Palin but using the holy scriptures as a weapon to hurt an individual- it’s so despicable and disgusting!

  • kade0868

    Someone please get her a copy of the movie “The Ten Commandments” so she can understand they were taking about creating IDOLS or False Gods … I would say she should read it, but she obviously has a comprehension level that is so feeble she couldn’t get past kindergarten on Are I smarter than a 5th grader … Understand she is not the only one who came up with this there were other idiots who helped her create this segment and it was approved by higher-ups … MSNBC where the brain is left to die !!!

    • MizJones

      kade, although it sounds like a great idea, but do you honestly think that this nit-wit can sit still to watch that entire movie?! lol She has the mentality of an 8yr old!!

  • TWM1942

    Obviously the MSNBC mouthpiece is out of her league with the bible verse that she totally misunderstood and misinterpreted.

    • Doritew

      Obviously Sarah Palins fans are out of their league when they don’t recognize tongue in cheek humor.

      • linreis

        typical response from a liberal troll… we see these excuses every day, when yet another liberal is caught in yet another lie….’a misworded’ statement’, ‘you misunderstand, you can’t take things literally’…or how about ‘I was just joking around, you have no sense of humor?’
        I find it really humorous that MSNBC is still harping about Sarah Palin…just in case she decides to run for office again…

      • Gregory Hans

        Who is way outta who’s league?? Mis-quoting scripture is not funny, it is moronic and just plain bad journalism. No, I take that back. It is hysterical that MSNBC is still on the air. I think the reference she uses is very good. But the Lord is the true God; he is the living God, the eternal King. When he is angry, the earth trembles; the nations cannot endure his wrath. (Jeremiah 10:10 NIV). Why do you think California has so many earthquakes…. Now that is funny.

  • PaMaDu

    to ashamed to say what you really want so you use acronyms? What a guy….

    • OldCorpsEd

      Since you know what it means, you know that it appropriately applies only to a subset of a subset, epitomized by the likes of her.

      • PaMaDu

        Actually, I don’t know what it means, but since it’s not a good thing, youre afraid to use it for some reason…

  • Ian Shepard

    I’m a little shocked that no one has mentioned that she mentioned the wrong passage. She didn’t mean “Jeremiah 10:10” but part of Jeremiah 10:3 through 5. Worse than that, as already mentioned in the other comments, the entire point of that passage (not to worship your firewood or to do what it tells you) was completely missed. Meh.

    • PaMaDu

      LMAO, you’re a little shocked? why don’t you read more into the thread, LMAO…

  • blueniner

    Who hired this idiot? Oh wait it is MSLSD, credentials can be found in cereal boxes….LOL

  • lynnlynn

    Wow she’s ugly, loud and stupid lol move along nothing to see here, just more idiotic liberals……………..barking and snorting.

  • Dwayne Plasterer

    Context Jeremiah 10 verse 1-10 talk about making Idols. Not a Christmas Tree! This is also misleading because the quote in question is from the Old testament not the new testament. Way to show your bigotry and intolerance!

  • Mark Singerman

    Uhhhhhhhhhhhh. Jeremiah 10:10 is not the correct reference. WOW. I would have gotten an F on a paper for making a false reference like that. This leads me to believe she didn’t do the research herself by actually opening a Bible, but rather trusted someone else who just spoon-fed her an answer that fit her anachronistic paradigm of what Christmas actually is. Also, ummmmm…the verses she MEANT to use (Jeremiah 10:3-5) were in fact NOT, as she believes, a reference to a holiday that didn’t exist at the time…as she implies in this video. Bahahaha. Oh, Relativism, how silly you remain to be.

  • Jon Berryman

    Going to the N-th degree to find a bible passage that they wrongly assumed was about Christmas trees was perhaps beyond the scope of journalism and reporting. This was nothing but amatuer-night hate mongering. Is there any end or any rationale for their hatred of Sarah Palin? MSNBC is a joke every time you turn it on.

  • igahmah

    When was the last time you bowed down to your Christmas tree as an idol? These people are crazy.

  • billyelsie

    Read Jeremiah 10:10, its not at all properly quoted. “But the Lord is the true God…”

  • whomatters

    I am just curious about the nails and hammer part. Obviously this is about making an idol to worship. Mine just went in the trash.

  • Tristian Overbee

    I can’t believe they try to look intelligent when it’s painfully obvious HATING.

  • Guest

    Bristol – you have probably already learned the “Smarminess” is simply in a Liberal’s DNA.

  • Housebrokentoo

    Bristol – you have probably already learned that “Smarminess” is simply in a Liberal’s DNA.

  • pacman116

    Just when you think they can’t possibly say anything more idiotic, they drag out another moron and raise (or is that lower?) the bar. Wow! This poor soul has no idea to what she’s referencing. It would do her some good to actually read the Bible instead of voicing what someone typed across her teleprompter. SMH.

  • linreis

    Jeremiah 10:10

    New International Version (NIV)

    10 But the Lord is the true God;
    he is the living God, the eternal King.
    When he is angry, the earth trembles;
    the nations cannot endure his wrath.
    the commentator says its not ‘Palin’s Bible’…wonder which bible she was referencing from.

  • Lisa Jensen

    My 16 year old son listened to this and made the interesting comment that liberals are allowed to use the Bible to attack against Christians, (even tho in this case she has incorrectly referenced her verse, and pulled it out of context) but Christians are never allowed to use the Bible as their authority for why what a liberal is doing is wrong. The funny thing is that the reference she gives actually says she is going to be judged for doing exactly what she is doing.

    • Ruffslitch

      Funny, that. Kinda like when they “expose” a Republican for being gay like it’s a bad thing when they glorify the same behavior. Hypocrisy, thy name is liberal.

  • linreis

    it does prove one thing, MSNBC is soooooooooo far behind reality, they don’t stand a chance of catching up…esp with people like this working for them…and it just makes me proud of Sarah Palin, cause after 5 years, and two elections, she is still making the dems scared as hell! Keep it up!

  • Marty Torrez

    Has anybody actually talked to your Christmas trees? the ungodly have no clue as to interpret the Lords words without using the Devils twist to it!

  • StevenSane

    Okay, I am one of those people that believes Palin is both an idiot and an opportunist. That being said, I still think this MSNBC segment is moronic, trifling, and mean. Not only that, but they have the verses wrong. It’s Jeremiah 10:5.

    • Teresa Davis McCormick

      Why are you at a Palin blog? And you call names?

    • colorado_df

      I’m not a fan of Palin’s, either. I agree with her ideals, but her public persona (her public speaking specifically) doesn’t appeal to me. Then again, Obama’s public persona is remarkable, yet his ideals couldn’t be further from mine. Sadly, image is first in politics, ideology is second.
      Everything else aside, Palin is HOT!! There, I said it. I’m shallow.

      • goldeeloxx

        I think BO’s public persona is completely fake and it is blatantly as obvious as a slap in the face!! Anyone that believes any thing that comes out of that arrogant jackass’s mouth needs their head examined! It is clear that Most Americans lack the skills to decipher a BS ARTIST from a decent hard working, patriotic American like Sarah Palin…..your comment clearly represents this! You should try pulling your head out of that dark place you’ve Buried it in! :)

  • Roy Alan Sekulich

    Actually Jeremiah 10:10 Reads
    “But the Lord is the true God, he is the living God, and an everlasting king: at his wrath the earth shall tremble, and the nations shall not be able to abide his indignation.” The scriptures she read was verses 3 -5 and was clearly talking about an idol. Decorating a tree is not the same as making that tree into an idol. Silly Silly Liberals.

  • Keith M

    Jeremiah is warning about idols.

  • MizJones

    PaMaDu, I gotta get off this ride….

    • PaMaDu

      Woo HOO!

  • RK1975

    I am going to guess that 90% of households also have Christmas trees so the majority of the population must be a pretender like Palin.

  • David J Gagnon

    They could take MSNBC off the air and only the liberals would realize it was gone. All they do is Brown-nose Odumbass and twist things in their liberal little minds until it sounds good to them! Advertisers would be smart to spend their money on other stations!

  • sharinite

    It would be of great help if, you would give us the name of the idiots in the videos you embed….I can’t watch the stupidity again, but will contact the station and let them have a negative comment….although after the racist, bigoted panel making fun of the new grand baby of Mitt and Anne because he is black!!!!

    • Ghin

      Actually, they weren’t making fun of the baby. They were making fun of Mitt and Anne

      • 1MiddleRoader

        They were using the baby to make a point, but it’s still wrong. And the woman humming “one of these things is not like the other” was out of line. It violates the “keep the kids out of it” rule. MHP and Dean O. apologized and rtightly so. If Dean O. wanted to portray the lack of diversity in the GOP, he could have shown pics of the GOP convention, not Romney’s family. BTW, Bristol’s Hail to the Chiefs (Sasha and Malia) was wrong also. In both cases the intent wasn’t to directly attack the children, but it’s still in poor taste.

  • PANTTERA

    She left out the part about the people carving wood figure then bowing down and worshiped wood as a god.

    • STFUTWIT

      That’s what liberal media morons do……leave out a lot…..oh, and worship a moron that they think is some kind of “god”…..LMMFAO!!!

  • T Barnes

    FAIL! that was such an obvious reference to creating an idol-which yes is against biblical teaching. I don’t remember chiseling my last christmas tree…or nailing it… lol

    • CrazedTruths

      xD i dont know you about you… but where i am from, when we go cut a tree down in the woods to use as a christmas tree, we trim the base of it to fit nicely into a stand and even trim the branches..it’s kind of like chiseling, but everyone is different i suppose lol

  • Marlene Winebrenner

    Jeremiah 10:10 Says But the Lord is the true God, and he is the living God and everlasting king: at his wrath the earth shall tremble and the nations shall not be able to abide his Indignation. I believe if That Moron is quoting the bible she should read it first.

    • CrazedTruths

      The reporter did not say Jeremiah 10:10… it is quoted as “Jeremiah 10-10” which i agree is an improper way to cite a biblical verse but the very first few verses of Jeremiah 10 ARE
      “Hear the word which the Lord speaks to you, O house of Israel.
      2 Thus says the Lord: “Do not learn the way of the Gentiles;
      Do not be dismayed at the signs of heaven,
      For the Gentiles are dismayed at them.
      3 For the customs of the peoples are futile;
      For one cuts a tree from the forest,
      The work of the hands of the workman, with the ax.
      4 They decorate it with silver and gold;
      They fasten it with nails and hammers
      So that it will not topple.
      5 They are upright, like a palm tree,
      And they cannot speak;
      They must be carried,
      Because they cannot go by themselves.
      Do not be afraid of them,
      For they cannot do evil,
      Nor can they do any good.”

      So before you bother trying to call others ‘morons’ and tell them to read, perhaps YOU should do some reading, you IDIOT!!

  • Eric Oppenheimer

    I just lost brain cells reading your “expose.” You commenting on someone’s interpretation of the Bible is hilarious! Didn’t you have a child out of wedlock? Aren’t you the one who is shown to be a terrible mother on her reality show?

    • jja3298

      Sir, I see by the your profile picture that you enjoy fantasy fiction. Perhaps if you got your head out of the clouds you might not have missed the point of this entire discussion. Mis Palin was right in pointing out the injustice and pettiness of the liberal news media toward her mother – they are like vapors waiting to spew their venom on anyone who opposes their political agenda. Bristol is no more guilty in life than you or me – perhaps even less because she had enough faith and the presence of mind not to abort her baby. I venture to say you have no idea how much courage it took for her to keep her baby, stand in the face of public ridicule and raise her child as a single parent. Having been a single parent of two for over nine years, I can tell you firsthand that being a single parent is the hardest and most demanding experience I’ve ever had and yet the most rewarding. I can also tell you (unequivocally) after serving in the military and having a career in law enforcement that the bravest people I’ve ever known are single women raising their children in the face of tremendous obstacles and poverty…God bless them all. So my friend, unless you are able to walk on water, don’t judge others until you’ve walked in their shoes.

      • Ghin

        The real fantasy here is that Bristol writes this blog. She does not and she likely doesn’t even read it.

      • jja3298

        DUPLICATE POST

      • jja3298

        Sir, I don’t know how this conversation got so off track so far but you present yourself as an authority in God’s word. You come across as having never committed a sin in your life…unlike Bristol and the rest of us. I am humbled by your biblical knowledge and therefore yield to you having earned the right to throw the stones of condemnation at her in keeping with John 8:7 (…“Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.”)
        But what’s most confusing for me is that you recommended that she should have engaged in anal sex instead of intercourse. How is it that you, knowing scripture as well as you do, would first attack her character then condemn her for sinning and suggesting that she should have allowed herself to be sodomized as a viable solution? Does not God hate all sin, and is He not the giver of life? Are we to consider children born out of wedlock to be inferior? …NOT! God loves her baby and has great plans for Bristol and her baby.
        I for one am very thankful to Jesus Christ for redeeming me (us) with his perfect and holy sacrifice on the cross. Those of us who have accepted His lordship have been forgiven of “ALL” our sins past, present and future. We are new creations that will always be under construction as we learn to please God. So please forgive us if we do not yet live up to your moral standards…we’re trying!

        • jja3298

          Yes, I see why you wouldn’t understand forgiveness or having faith in God by your reply. My only respond to you and anyone else who shares your opinion is from 1 Corinthians 1:18 “For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.” The good news for you, and everyone else who believes as you do, is found in John 3:16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.”
          You too can become a “whoever” like the rest of us if you would only open your spiritual eyes…

  • Jerry Lee

    (There’s No War On Christmas) When Christmas Is In Your Heart!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_NPbOG1-pE

  • Michelle Erb

    The point is that your mother is making money by trying to tell everyone else how they can and can not celebrate the winter holidays. Her point is allegedly that “Jesus is the reason for the season” and therefore using secular terms such as “holiday” is sacrilegious. Yet when she has the opportunity to choose any image to show what Christmas means to her, she picks a pagan symbol that has no link to Jesus. I believe Ms. Reid has previously pointed out that your mother used a pagan symbol for the cover of her book.

    Of course you are right that the biblical quote pre-dates Jesus, so do the pagan winter celebrations that the Christians tried to make their own.

    • Ghin

      Spot on! This is absolutely correct and totally lost on Sarah Palins fans. Sarah knows them well……

      • ManaMoffa

        None of what the idiot Michelle Erb said was true

        There has never been a pagan holiday called Christmas and nothing about Christmas has a pagan origin

        Nor has anyone heard Palin demanding people celebrate holidays as she wishes.
        It’s all absurd to even suggest.

        • Melissa R.

          actually, there are some pagan traditions mixed in with Christmas. That’s how satan works. Only by reading your bible and walking with the Lord can we discern all right from wrong…

    • ManaMoffa

      Wrong , you idiot
      There is no connection between Christmas and the winter solstice It’s never been on the same day, , there is no similarities,

      And Palin has yet to order anyone to celebrate in anyway,

      People like you need to see a shrink

      • Michelle Erb

        Thanks for the laugh. I assume this was meant as farce? Otherwise the post is just too sad.

        Just in case, I will mention that the ancients who began celebrating around the time of the solstice had no way of knowing what date it actually occurred. (You know like how the authors of the Bible thought the earth was flat and did not know about other planets etc) You do not actually think Jesus was born on December 25, do you?

        Palin has not ordered anyone to celebrate, but she has encouraged the bullying campaign that pressures even non-Christians to say Merry Christmas instead of Happy Hollidays. Her troops are also actively trying to force Christianity on Jewish children attending public schools and well as Jewish veterans recuperating at the VA. But what can one expect from a divisive woman who has made a fortune deciding who is and is not a “real American”

      • Eli Odell Jackson

        No need for that kinda talk, foolish as she is.

  • jja3298

    That is correct but our relationship with Jesus Christ is real!

    • jja3298

      1 Corinthians 1:18 “For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.” The good news for you, and everyone else who believes as you do, is found in John 3:16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.” That means you, and everyone else who believes as you do, can become a “whoever” like the rest of us if you would only open your spiritual eyes…

      • Eli Odell Jackson

        Ahh John 3, that whole chapter just makes my whole dang spine tingle for His Glory

        but remember Mt. 5:10-12

        Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness’ sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

        Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

        Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.
        ——
        I say give thanks also for the condemnation of the corrupted, it is a good thing to suffer for Righteousness’s sake

  • Michelle Erb
  • ElderAmbassador

    I love your new format. I hope the MSNBC person has a happy made up african kwanzaa.

  • ManaMoffa

    None of that is true
    IN the northern hemisphere the winter solistice occurs on the 21st to 22nd
    Never on the 23rd 24th or 25th

    Halloween is 100 percent Christian origin. the local customs only have pagan origins

    St Valentines day is named after a Christian Martyr Vanlentus.
    It’ has no connection Imbolc
    The only part of Easter that is pagan is the origins of the English translation of the word. not the celebration itself , or the meaning behind it

    • Michelle Erb

      The ancient people who celebrated around the time of the solstice had no way of knowing what date it actually occurred. That is why Christmas ended up on the 25th.

      • Eli Odell Jackson

        How do you make that argument?
        That just don’t make a whole lot of common sense y’know..

    • Dee

      Easter is actually mentioned in the Bible, in Acts chapter 12, when Herod was killing or imprisoning Jesus’ followers. He imprisoned Peter “4And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people.” (KJV)

  • Zeek

    I’d like to meet this genius. I have a very rare Roman coin marked “300 BC” that I am pretty sure I could sell her.

  • nicholas_1

    As annoying as the MSNBC clip was, Bristol’s response and the clip made the whole adventure worth while. Good on you, Bristol!

  • politicalgrandma

    Is this pitiful MSNBC talker allowed to try to cross the street alone?

  • smitty195

    It really is true that liberalism is a mental disorder. There is no other explanation.

  • jim

    while i think your mom (and the vast majority of right wingers) are seriously misguided and doing it wrong, this is really and example of someone who is grasping at straws to criticize someone else. with the plethora of dumb things that republicans say and do, was it really necessary for this woman to call sarah palin out for having a christmas tree? no. it was silly and juvenile and totally (like republicans) misguided.

  • Cody Collins

    That passage in Jer. 10:10 is correct, Bristol if you ever decide to study not only the Bible but Christian History. You will find out the history of a lot of things that you thought were Christian, but is pure paganism. The names of certain things have been changed as history progressed, but the foundation of those things never changed.


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