Tom Tancredo Calls Obama The Greatest Threat To America

He essentially compares Obama to the Soviet Union and Al-Qaeda and argues that he is an even wors threat to America than them. It’s just baseless and shameless and insane:

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Dr. Daniel Fincke  has his PhD in philosophy from Fordham University and spent 11 years teaching in college classrooms. He wrote his dissertation on Ethics and the philosophy of Friedrich Nietzsche. On Camels With Hammers, the careful philosophy blog he writes for a popular audience, Dan argues for atheism and develops a humanistic ethical theory he calls “Empowerment Ethics”. Dan also teaches affordable, non-matriculated, video-conferencing philosophy classes on ethics, Nietzsche, historical philosophy, and philosophy for atheists that anyone around the world can sign up for. (You can learn more about Dan’s online classes here.) Dan is an APPA  (American Philosophical Practitioners Association) certified philosophical counselor who offers philosophical advice services to help people work through the philosophical aspects of their practical problems or to work out their views on philosophical issues. (You can read examples of Dan’s advice here.) Through his blogging, his online teaching, and his philosophical advice services each, Dan specializes in helping people who have recently left a religious tradition work out their constructive answers to questions of ethics, metaphysics, the meaning of life, etc. as part of their process of radical worldview change.

  • http://atheists-and-christians.blogspot.com/ Mike AKA MonolithTMA

    Real Americans spend all their time accusing other Americans of not being real Americans. That’s how you can tell them apart.

  • Gregory Wahl

    Without arguing for/against the substance of Tancredo’s comments, I think you are being carelessly dismissive by calling his comments “insane” or the like. He is simply saying that a threat from within is more dangerous than an external one. You may not agree with him, but that does not justify the adjectives you used.

  • Daniel Fincke

    His claim that Obama is a comparable or greater threat to the United States of America than either the Soviet Union or al-Qaeda is insane. Obama is not a “threat from within” and to treat him as such is a dangerous disrespect for a democratically elected leader who has ruled entirely peacefully and entirely within the bounds of the Constitution. It’s a disgrace. Tancredo should be ashamed of himself and he’s nuts.

  • Gregory Wahl

    He’s talking about Obama’s political views and policies, and where those policies are taking us. It’s over-the-top, to be sure, but it’s not hard to find similar hyperbole in our political discourse over the past 200 years. (Perhaps your criticism of Tancredo is one example.)

    Personally, I find Obama to be cynical, divisive, and dishonest — but not dangerous, because he’s such a blatant bullshitter.

  • Kyle

    “Without arguing for/against the substance of Tancredo’s comments, I think you are being carelessly dismissive by calling his comments “insane” or the like. He is simply saying that a threat from within is more dangerous than an external one. You may not agree with him, but that does not justify the adjectives you used.”

    You’re wrong. Anyone who says what Tancredo says is insane. Period. Because ‘insane’ is the truth.

  • Gregory Wahl

    Kyle, it sounds like you would’ve felt right at home in the old Soviet Union: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punitive_psychiatry_in_the_Soviet_Union

  • Daniel Fincke

    He’s talking about Obama’s political views and policies, and where those policies are taking us. It’s over-the-top, to be sure, but it’s not hard to find similar hyperbole in our political discourse over the past 200 years. (Perhaps your criticism of Tancredo is one example.)

    First of all, he doesn’t even just refer to his policies, he has a more insidious way of pinning “the man in the white house right now”, which fits into a narrative of supposed illegitimacy which (like it or not) has dark racist undertones. By lumping in the President with foreign threats—the Soviet Union, Al Qaeda—knowing all the birther hysteria about his kenyan ancestry and knowing Tancredo’s racist response to the immigration problem, there is clearly a personal thing here and not just a standard critique of policies as dangerous. This is pure Othering, pure attempt to cast the President of the United States as a foreign infiltrator who is more dangerous than the previous foreign threats because now HE SITS IN THE WHITE HOUSE DUN-DUN-DUN!!!

    So, knowing the context, I hear all that going on. And, I know, not everyone who objects to amnesty for illegals, etc. is a racist, but Tancredo just is. He’s a walking disgrace. There’s too much of a record at this point. Calling for literacy tests for voting rights? The exact Southern technique originally implemented with the clear goal of excluding blacks from the right to vote? The man is reflexively racist.

    And the rhetoric is not just “over the top” by someone getting carried away in a rhetorical flourish. This is a paranoid man’s “from the heart” moment where he insists to us that he is completely sincere. So, no, I don’t think it’s just a bit of ribaldry, it’s insidious, deep-seated paranoid racism.

    But, finally, I had said that the claims were insane and you admit they were “over the top” and an “over the top” remark if taken literally, i.e., with its claim taken on its own terms, is one that is not reasonable, not sane. It’s very much a quibble of semantics at that point. I did not call Tancredo himself insane (he’s just a pathetic paranoid old racist who cannot handle changing reality) but his claims which should not be at all accepted as a plausible part of a civil discourse but should be drummed out of it as NUTTY before people take such a baseless comparison (Obama to the Soviets) seriously. It’s not serious, it’s not rooted in any fact.

    For cripe’s sake, in Obama’s shining chance to implement the great socialist utopia, he denied even a public option for supplementing the health care providers’ options with a government one and went with a 100% corporatist health care fix whereby every single American will now be in the hands NOT of the government but of the private insurance companies! He will force the government to pay into the private industries, not take them over with the government!

    Criticize him all you like, but have some bearings in reality, for cripe’s sake! He’s NOT a Soviet! And even were he to have socialized the health care industry, that would make him maybe a 21st Century European, but, again NOT a communist.

    Those irrational memes about his views need to be called insane because they’re completely false, culturally they’re rooted in paranoia about his fearful “Otherness”, and they make actual constructive, substantive critique and debate aimed at real solutions simply impossible.

    Personally, I find Obama to be cynical, divisive, and dishonest — but not dangerous, because he’s such a blatant bullshitter.

    If he had just said cynical, divisive, dishonest, and bullshitting, I would not have batted an eye. Those are not insane or incivil charges. They’re harsh and, I think, false, but at least they are temperate and defensible.

  • Gregory Wahl

    Hmmmm . . . I’m going to take a wild guess — that Tom Tancredo is not going to be invited over for dinner at your house any time soon. (That’s assuming, of course, that you are not using “pathetic paranoid old racist” as a term of endearment.)

    Anyway, enough of this.

  • Daniel Fincke

    I would eat with him if I felt like it could do either of us any bit of small good. I do believe in discussion even with the intractable because you can at least moderate them just a tiny little bit more than if they never talked to anyone outside their extreme.

    But, for what it’s worth, you’re welcome for dinner any time, Gregory. You seem a decent fellow.


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