What Does The Eagle Represent In The Bible? A Christian Study

Does the eagle have special meaning in the Bible and if so, what does it represent?

The Eagle Bears us Up

The image of God as an eagle is found throughout the Bible but primarily in the Old Testament. It is a sign of strength and able to bear much weight, as Moses wrote, “You yourselves have seen what I did to the Egyptians, and how I bore you on eagles’ wings and brought you to myself” (Ex 19:4). This is further symbolized when Moses said of God “Like an eagle that stirs up its nest, that flutters over its young, spreading out its wings, catching them, bearing them on its pinions” (Duet 32:11). The eagle can bear up the young eaglets on its pinions, which are the outer wings. This is basically what God did when He brought Israel out of captivity from Egypt and continued to bear her up in her wanderings in the wilderness.

The Eagle as a sign of Strength

The psalmist often referred to God in the imagery or as having the attributes of an eagle and especially when he wrote that it was God “who satisfies you with good so that your youth is renewed like the eagle’s” (Psalm 103:5). Isaiah also saw the symbolic strength of God as depicted in an eagle when he wrote “but they who wait for the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings like eagles; they shall run and not be weary; they shall walk and not faint” (Isaiah 40:31).

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The Eagle as God’s Rod against Israel and Judah

God also uses the eagle in the Bible to describe different powers which will come down swiftly upon Israel if she refuses to live in obedience to Him. God spoke through Jeremiah in warning Judah about a coming threat from the north by stating “Behold, he comes up like clouds; his chariots like the whirlwind; his horses are swifter than eagles—woe to us, for we are ruined” (Jer 4:13). If the nation continues in idolatry and refused to repent even after being warned, God thunders “The Lord will bring a nation against you from far away, from the end of the earth, swooping down like the eagle, a nation whose language you do not understand” (Duet 28:49). These “pursuers were swifter than the eagles in the heavens; they chased us on the mountains; they lay in wait for us in the wilderness” (Lam 4:19). Further, Habakkuk says much the same thing if Israel refuses to repent, writing about the coming enemy “Their horses are swifter than leopards, more fierce than the evening wolves; their horsemen press proudly on. Their horsemen come from afar; they fly like an eagle swift to devour” (1:8).

The Eagles as God’s Rod against the Nations

God also uses the language of a swooping eagle even against the nations surrounding Israel “Behold, one shall mount up and fly swiftly like an eagle and spread his wings against Bozrah, and the heart of the warriors of Edom shall be in that day like the heart of a woman in her birth pains” (Jer 49:22). Whichever nation exalts itself against the Most High, God says “Though you soar aloft like the eagle, though your nest is set among the stars, from there I will bring you down, declares the Lord” (Obadiah 1:4).

The Eagle as God’s Protection

God refers to Himself as an eagle for several different reasons and one example is of His protective nature as in Psalm 91:1-4 “He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will abide in the shadow of the Almighty. I will say to the Lord, “My refuge and my fortress, my God, in whom I trust. For he will deliver you from the snare of the fowler and from the deadly pestilence. He will cover you with his pinions, and under his wings you will find refuge; his faithfulness is a shield and buckler. ” Eagles represent sovereignty and supremacy and how fitting since God is the real ruler of kings and presidents (Dan. 2:20-21/5:18-21, Prov. 8:15-16, Rom. 13:1-2) but also, when the storms hit, eagles can fly far above the storms, indicating that God is never affected by conditions for He is also sovereign over nature.

Conclusion

If you have ever watched an eagle soar, it is nearly motionless and stationary. This absolute lack of movement makes it naked to the eyes of its prey. This majestic bird may have a wing span over eight feet and weigh up to 15 pounds and live up to 40 years. Eagles are indigenous to North America but they used to be predominant in Palestine at one time. They are also the most attentive parents of all the bird species and perhaps the greatest teachers of their young, and like doves, they will remain monogamous until death. God is like an eagle, He covers us and He shadows us (Psalm 36:7, 63:7, 91:1-4, 1st King 8:7), covers us (Psalm 91:1-4), hides us (Psalm 17:8) and is even under us (Psalm 36:7).

Article by Jack Wellman

Jack Wellman is Pastor of the Mulvane Brethren church in Mulvane Kansas. Jack is also the Senior Writer at What Christians Want To Know whose mission is to equip, encourage, and energize Christians and to address questions about the believer’s daily walk with God and the Bible. You can follow Jack on Google Plus or check out his book Blind Chance or Intelligent Design available on Amazon.

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  • Mike Everest

    Religion, is just one big lie and Highway Robbery. Morans, stupider than you steal your mind and ride you like a donkey, so you can pay their mortgage.
    Creationism is a JOKE.
    O.K. Can You tell me why there is one creator and not two creators? I say there are two creators (bad God and Good
    God)? A child born blind is the creation
    of a bad creator! lightness vs.,
    darkness, earthquake vs. Sunlight and on and on. With one god system of belief you have to own up to all the miseries that your companionate god creates, animals eating each other alive, and you have to die in misery against your own will–do you see my
    point? So, you cannot prove that why
    there can’t be two gods which makes more sense to believe in.
    The world is too complicated to be created by one god. And one god cannot create good and bad
    together, and if it did, then he is a bad God.

    Bottom line is world and life is only made up of energy and
    matter. And first law of chemistry says,
    you cannot create matter and you cannot destroy it–it can only change to
    energy. If you travel with speed of light, times infinity to outer space, you will find nothing but Galaxies and Galaxies and Matter and nothing else.
    Life and World is the world of Existence in the form of matter and
    energy. Why? because, you cannot create Matter nor Destroy
    it (google it). Creationism is just a Hoax by religious people to make a donkey out of you and ride you and waste your youth and take your money, so they can pay their mortgage.
    Finally, every one fights not to die, when old–look at the hospitals–it is full of sick Ministers. Then, why your companionate god must kill you, against your own will to live. Then, why did god embedded in you, will to survive, then kill you against your own will, then put you on hold to burn you in Hell. Do you see how stupid you are to believe in this nonsense like these.

    • SJ

      The bible is not a science text.

      The bible is the book that teaches men how to make their peace with God.

      Science and Genesis
      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5bKa92eLkQM

      Stop using science against God. God gives men all their gifts including the gift to do science.

      • Mike Everest

        Finally Mr. SJ. You make this statement, “Stop using science against God. God gives men all their gifts including the gift to do science.” You sound worse than a two year old. First of all, all we have is science, there is nothing else, out there. All you do everyday is built on science, look around you from the food you eat, shelter you sleep, hospital you go to and etc. So, there is nothing else but science. In the same token, there is NO GOD, until you prove to me that there is one, via science, and pure fact, that I can either see, or measure via science. So, there is nothing else, but your hallucination. For example, you believe in one god, and I believe in two gods (bad god and good god). How can you say my belief is wrong? and yours is Right, both are bullshit. A child born blind, is the production of your good GOD, or does it belongs to a bad GOD? which one? Do you see my point, since there is no scientific bases to prove GOD, you can make any claim, with no proof–but that does not make it true. You are no different than I am, and you do no posses any power over me, and I do know, there is nothing out there. Otherwise, I would not needed a middle man like you to tell me, it be automatic, installed when born, like beating my heart. Child is born atheist.

        • SJ

          You let science make an atheist slave out of you when all you ever had to do was take Jesus’ hand and let him lead you like a little child on the right path.

          The bible is the account of your spiritual family.

          We all contain both right and wrong knowledge but Jesus brings us up the right way and helps us discern right from wrong and protects us with his life giving knowledge so we don’t fall victims to the evil in this world.

          You don’t look for the spiritual with the physical…..you will never find it and will probably end up frustrated with a headache.

          Do I look for ice cream in the oven?

          You better learn to take your questions to God while you still have time.

          You are important to God and you better stop ignoring that fact or you could miss out on your spiritual birth and self actualization.

          Theology is like studying Jesus’ DNA code to spiritual birth and the whole world needs spiritual birth.

          So meditate on that and don’t object…..God is Love….And he makes lovers and peacemakers out of His people if they will learn to mind Him.

          • Mike Everest

            I am sorry, I do not want to insult you.  You do not even comprehend what I am saying to you, and repeating nonsense one after another, and kind of playing with words to make you look sophisticated–get a life.  You keep repeating a word that I do not know, GOD.  As if it is the fact like, 2X2= 4.  Can you even give one percent chance that someone like me, do not know that word (GOD), or you assume that everyone is like you?  Your narcissism is absurd.   I do not know GOD or Santa Clause or Soul or Diemen or Hell or Heaven.  At least with Santa clause, I can see the chimney, some evidence. Look Babies are born atheists.  And look again, there are hundreds of religions and thousand GODs.  They all are different for everyone.  Depending where you are born, you are brainwashed to believe in that religion and so as in Army.  Every country has Army and soldiers willing to die to defend their homeland, they are brainwashed to believe that their country is right.  How is this possible we can’t have everyone right–so brainwashing exist–believe it and you are the prime example of it.   All countries are at odds and war with each other, yet soldiers believe in their country being right.  Do you get my point.  You are brain washed trust me on this one.  Every religion is different with different bullshit and lies.  Even with the same religion, no two agrees with one another, and they kill each other, like Sunni and Shiite Muslims.  The same goes to Christianity, Catholics and Hindu, Buda and the rest.  You know this better, even two same denomination churches are not the same, on the same street.  No two minister agree with each other, and no two religious people agree with each other.  You know why?  Because, it is all based on lies and interpretation of book (Bible) that was written in Arabic 2000 years ago, and supposedly  200 years after Jesus death.  You see how barbaric these ISIs are now, go back 2000 years, see how backward they were then.  Do you want to believe them, that someone name Jesus (Eissa Arabic name) ever existed?  They did not have clothes to wear, they wiped their asses with dirt in dark, no electricity.  Do you want to believe a book which was written 2000 years ago, and to Arabs account it was written 200 years after Jesus death, in Arabic, by anonymous writers–that no one knew who they were.  Bible does not even have Arabic names, Jesus is made to be blond blue, long lock hair with a long face.  More likely if he existed, would be a short fat black man, with a round face–see the deception.  His name is changed from Eissa to Jesus.  Apostles name all 12 are not Arabic names, yet Jesus supposedly born in Bethlehem.  No Magus’s all 3 men who saved Jesus after he returned from dead (what a joke this shit is)  do you really believe this crap?  their name are not in Arabic.  Bullshit after bullshit, just to deceive public.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9o0yZMcOYo From: Disqus
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            You let science make an atheist slave out of you when all you ever had to do was take Jesus’ hand and let him lead you like a little child on the right path.The bible is the account of your spiritual family.We all contain both right and wrong knowledge but Jesus brings us up the right way and helps us discern right from wrong and protects us with his life giving knowledge so we don’t fall victims to the evil in this world.You don’t look for the spiritual with the physical…..you will never find it and will probably end up frustrated with a headache.Do I look for ice cream in the oven?You better learn to take your questions to God while you still have time.You are important to God and you better stop ignoring that fact or you could miss out on your spiritual birth and self actualization.Theology is like studying Jesus’ DNA code to spiritual birth and the whole world needs spiritual birth.So meditate on that and don’t object…..God is Love….And he makes lovers and peacemakers out of His people if they will learn to mind Him. 11:04 a.m., Saturday July 18 | Other comments by SJ |   |
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          • http://batman-news.com Beeg Noyz

            You are brilliant ……Sir……

          • Mike Everest

            Thanks.

          • Brandon N Kenetta Ross

            The fool has said in his heart that there is no God, and if a wise man argues with a fool how will you know who is wise?

          • Mike Everest

            I am sorry, I do not want to insult you. You do not even comprehend what I am saying to you, and repeating nonsense one after another, and kind of playing with words to make you look sophisticated–get a life. You keep repeating a word that I do not know, GOD. As if it is the fact like, 2X2= 4. Can you even give one percent chance that someone like me, do not know that word (GOD), or you are so conceded that think everyone is like you? Your narcissism is absurd. I do not know GOD or Santa Clause or Soul or Diemen or Hell or Heaven. At least with Santa clause, I can see the chimney, some evidence.

            Look Babies are born atheists. And look again, there are hundreds of religions and thousand GODs. They all are different for everyone. Depending where you are born, you are brainwashed to believe in that religion and so as in Army. Every country has Army and soldiers willing to die to defend their homeland, they are brainwashed to believe that their country is right. How is this possible we can’t have everyone right! right?–so brainwashing exist–believe it and you are the prime example of it. All countries are at odds and war with each other, yet soldiers believe in their country being right. Do you get my point. You are brain washed trust me on this one.

            Every religion is different with different bullshit and lies. Even with the same religion, no two agrees with one another, and they kill each other, like Sunni and Shiite Muslims. The same goes to Christianity, Catholics and Hindu, Buda and the rest. You know this better, even two same denomination churches are not the same, on the same street. No two minister agree with each other, and no two religious people agree with each other. You know why? Because, it is all based on lies and interpretation of book (Bible) that was written in Arabic 2000 years ago, and supposedly 200 years after Jesus death. You see how barbaric these ISIs are now, now go back 2000 years, see how backward they were then. Do you want to believe them, that someone name Jesus (Eissa Arabic name) ever existed? They did not have clothes to wear, they wiped their asses with dirt in dark, no electricity. Do you want to believe a book which was written 2000 years ago in Arabic, and to Arabs account it was written 200 years after Jesus death, in Arabic, by anonymous writers–that no one knew who they were. Bible does not even have Arabic names, Jesus is made to be blond, blue, long lock hair with a long face. More likely if he existed, would be a short fat black man, with a round face–see the deception. His name is changed from Eissa to Jesus. Apostles name all 12 are not Arabic names, yet Jesus supposedly born in Bethlehem. No Magus’s all 3 men who saved Jesus after he returned from dead (what a joke this shit is), do you really believe in this crap? their name are not in Arabic. Bullshit after bullshit, just to deceive public.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9o0yZMcOYo

          • SJ

            You can google Justin Barrett and his neuroscience research…..born believers do exist.

            I consider myself one though I was quite old before regularly going to church or reading the scriptures.

            But I always knew God was to be respected and loved.

            How did I know with such little training?

            I believe the world has actively trained some people against God.

            But I’m a nonconformist…..I thought for a really long time myself before conforming.

            So you need to realize that you’ve been cherrypicking quack psychology ideas to make people that are different from you appear in the wrong.

            Christianity vs. Modern Psychology
            http://www.the-gospel.org/stdy_psych/christ-centered.php?pass=hh

          • Mike Everest

            Mr. SJ. You really need to get yourself checked up. I can’t believe people like you exist in U.S. I expect it in Afghanistan not in U.S. I do not need to listen deceivers like Justin Barrett, who have psychological problems hallucinating stuff.
            You tell me, You and Justin Barrett believe that born believers, exist. What believers? Are you real? what does that mean, believe in what? Did Justin Barrett told you that 72 virgins are also waiting for you after you die?
            This is exactly what Jihadists believe, exactly like you, except they believe 72 virgins are also waiting, if they are martyred in the gods path. And Gods path means their belief minus the world’s belief. Furthermore, anybody who believe differently than them, having different religion are called infidels, and must be killed. But if that happen to be a virgin girl, you must be raped first before being killed by stoning, because God, does not accept virgins into hell.
            Now, see they are born believers just like you and are willing to die for their beliefs, in another words, they believe in their stupidity more than you do. Explain to me what makes your belief valid and their belief not valid? They are willing to die for it, but you don’t. Again, they believes in a different GOD than you do. This is what I am saying, GOD is all made up lies, and is different from one person to another, because it is not real and is a fairy tale. STOP deceiving people and wasting youngsters youths age on nonsense and get a decent life. If someone steals money, we call them thief, but when someone, gives himself right to steal someone’s brain and waste his youth in learning garbage we respect them as minister. Unfortunately, this is true in the whole world and this is the main reason why world is fucked up. All the wars pretty much were fought over religion or people who fought it were religious. So, gods were fighting each other–what a joke!

          • Brandon N Kenetta Ross

            Not exactly sure the point of arguing with one who is obviously adamant about remaining blind? Instead of logical arguments he brings railing accusations and insults. Individuals such as he are void of understanding, wipe the dust from your feet and pray that if it God’s will he should remove the scales from this Mike Everest eye’s that he may see he has been deceived by satan and taken captive by the enemy at his will.

          • SJ

            It’s hard to tell the truly gone from the ones who might turn around. C.S. Lewis declared as an atheist yet he turned around. I’ve met a few people who said they were former atheists and are now converted online. Not helped to convert by me but something helped them.

            There is always the possibility that some of these people are like Saul on the Road to Damascus.

            God stopped Saul hard then turned his whole thinking around.

            I just mainly level with people now. I don’t believe people should tiptoe around them. If you were blind wouldn’t you want someone who was sure leading you? I get waylaid by the spiritually blind all the time…so I correct them now just like you need strong vision correction when you are have eye problems.

            You couldn’t see with an eye problem if nobody corrected your vision now could you.

            The Gospel is like mental therapy….but a lot of people get used to their old ways and don’t want the therapy. They have to be motivated to participate.

          • traxxion

            “Look Babies are born atheists”
            Why don’t you test the actual evidence and see where you end up? Here is what is stacked against your argument : Through ALL of history, through ALL known cultures there is and always has been a belief in the supernatural and a belief in a God or gods. The burden of proof is on YOU, because the evidence is totally contrary to what you claim. You say people are not born with a consciousness of God and yet the majority of people through all of recorded time have looked for him/them. Not only that, extensive records composed about the interaction of the supernatural with mankind – again through ALL of recorded history, in ALL cultures for ALL recorded time.
            You can certainly compose an argument that religious education plays a part in various beliefs and I’m sure it certainly does, but I would counter that it seems like it is ATHEISM that has required the brainwashing, with nationally mandated education programs in countries like communist Russia and China, with tight controls to ensure compliance.
            If you want more evidence, consider that just as many people who reject the beliefs of their birth embrace those of another faith rather than embracing no belief in God. If the natural human condition were no belief in God, then it would surely become the default state of FAR more people far more easily?

          • Brandon N Kenetta Ross

            Absolutely Brilliant!

    • Mike Everest

      Which God? good God or Bad God. Can you prove to me that there are only one God and Not two. No. You cannot. Your picture looks old, you are getting old with many problems, and you will be tortured to death while living, before you die, with all host of diseases and handicap. You will go to hospitals for treatments, because your prays to God will not answer you (like diseased children dying in mother’s arms due to drought in Africa–prays unanswered). And, finally, you will die against your own will. GOD is just a made up word–it is not real. Displaying a filled bookshelf behind you does not make you smart. To make a Truth claims, like Existence of God, you must show a compelling scientific reason and evidence for Truth Claims, otherwise you are like Islamic-fanatic who kills for his beliefs–except in your case, you do not have the balls to do that. STOP lying to people, get a decent life instead.

  • SJ

    The bible is heavy in its’ use of symbolism and on God’s chariot the bible mentions four symbols: the lion, the eagle, the ox and the man..

    These 4 symbols correllate to the 4 Gospels: Matthew to the lion, Mark to the eagle, Luke to the ox and John to the man.

    All of the animals are strong animals. The lion is fearless, the ox is strong and serviceable and the eagle is free and has keen sight….This is how I see these animals’ natures being emblematic of some of God’s main attributes and He pours this nature out on and into His people.

    Because of Who You Are
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-J2CbJ-fEc

  • Michael Larkin

    I am very concerned when someone miss quotes the word. Exodus 19:14, “So Moses went down from the mountain to the people and consecrated the people, and they washed their garments” That my friend is Exodus 19:14, perhaps before you speak about the bible you might like to study the passage. this is the level of biblical information that one can expect from this rag.

    • http://batman-news.com Beeg Noyz

      And shall we share my above reply with you …

      • Michael Larkin

        Sir your comment is some what unclear, please clarify what it is you are saying

  • Ron Johnson Art

    myth…. that’s all

    • http://batman-news.com Beeg Noyz

      At least you know that, if not anything, the BIBLE
      is a text composed in ancient times over a period of hundreds of years by many authors…..That,in those days of human history; composing and writing was not an ordinary feat like what you and I do today….Therefore if you want to be critical to that in the context of your and mine brilliance of today, please think again……And now I happen to see the following news item, and as as I understand, every news is important :-

      “Hollywood star has showed off a never-before-seen tattoo during a recent family trip to Toys “R” Us in Glendale, California.
      The tattoo was made seemingly to honor his wife and their six kids,”
      ( BTW I have removed the names from the news item. And I don’t mean bad to anyone here in anyway, whatsoever )

      • Ron Johnson Art

        I am able to write a sentence that can be understood by a 6th grader. You on the other hand don’t seem to have that ability. So whatever you meant by your comment, you failed to communicate. If for some reason you think my comment was critical of the article on eagles as symbols, then you need to know that knowledge is not criticism. Anyone can take any object and make it symbolic. And language with use of symbolism and allegory creates what is known as myth. The bible is myth.

        • http://batman-news.com Beeg Noyz

          Shining brilliance..

          • Ron Johnson Art

            thanks

  • Mike Everest
  • Mike Everest

    Mr. SJ., You are just a hypocrite. Everything you do in your daily life is based on science, from car you drive, phone, cooking, hospitals, every million small elements; you use science, vaccinating your child and etc. But yet, you reject science. Hear it once and for all. Science says, first principal of Chemistry (google it, do not listen to me, how brainwashed can you be?). First Principal of Chemistry says; You cannot create Matter nor destroy it–it can only change to Energy. Do you understand what that means? it means you cannot create Matter, Matter always exists. If you fly with speed of light forever, to infinity, all you will find is Matter and Matter and Matter, nothing else period, because nothing can create it, nor can destroy it. Period. So, world is world of Existence and NOT a world of None Existence that someone name God came from nowhere and created it–Cannot BE. Then where the hell God came from? GOD, is a made up word and has no scientific bases, just like Santa Cluase. So, remember, world, is a world of Existence, we can see the Galaxies and they are mostly made of up dirt, jut like earth. Furthermore, we are the product of Matter, without Electric Field, Oxygen and Hydrogen Molecules cannot stick together to make water for you to drink, also, the same token, your cells will not stick together to make you and your blood will not travel and you are made from the combination of billion animals and plants died before you. So, how your god can burn you in hell, when you do not actually exists, because you are made up of parts or animals or people which some were good (needed to go to heaven) and some were bad that had died before you.
    Going back to the Subject of Matter. The same goes for gravity. Sun which is 27 Million degree hot, its sunlight is Electromagnetic wave, without it trees cannot grow. Everything that you eat are present in the earth (all minerals, see Mandaliof Table, etc.).

    The way you talk about made up GOD is so silly, and backward. You project God as a person sitting somewhere and controls every leaf that falls from the trees or controls every drop of the ocean water that moves, every single particle of dust in this infinite Universe, which there is no end to it–universe has no end.

    Religion is a POISON, to peoples’ mind and it causes misery in the world, look around you how Muslims are killing each other and how they slave their women, or how Crusaders murdered people and how Christian slaved African American (by the way, slavery is prescribed in Bible).

    The reason Religion is a Poison, is this (please,go please study this–it is all science). From ages zero to 8 years old, 80% of child’s subconscious mind is developed. This is why we all are child. We look grown up, but inner child of us rules us everyday–this is why the whole world is screwed up. To fix the world you need to first fix the raising of the child from zero to eight (childhood). If you are angry, anxious, timid, lack self- confidence, self-esteem, and etc. It all goes back to your childhood upbringing.

    Not to forget Genetics, have small role on some of the psychological diseases as well (your companionate god’s gift to a newborn). So, what religion does, is it throws more Garabage into the mix, for the starter, it strips your dignity by re-enforcing idea that you are sinful, we baptize people for this reason, the fact that anyone needs to be washed means that in the first place that they are dirty. The truth is people are dirty, or sinful before God and therefore need to be washed clean (Romans 3).

    Sorry, my maiden language is not English. But I am going to try just use one example of religion being a Poison amongst 1000 other reason to prove a point. Try to understand, I cannot elaborate fully or completely.
    When you make a person believe that either he is a slave before god, or he is dirty or sinful. Two things happen, when person grows up, his self esteem, will be shattered. What happens, when person does not have a self esteem. Self esteem is different that self confidence. Self esteem is related to self-love. When a person lacks self esteem two things will happen, either he would be a kiss-ass, or he will wear a tiger skin and will start to be an attack-dog, dominating people and stripping their rights. Add to this, indoctrination that happens, blindly believing a book as truth. He will be steadfast, in either killing himself (lack of self love) like Suicide bomber, or kill others (attack dog). Because, ultimately, lack of self esteem, translates to self hatred. But he believes in a book. So his opinions becomes more important him himself. So, if he loves his own opinion (came from Holly book) more than himself, off course, he would not give a damn about others. Therefore, true believers, will not care for people, they have no value for anything, first and foremost to themselves.
    SO, Religion is a BIG LIE and is a Poison. As long as there is a religion, there will never be a peace on earth.

    • traxxion

      The argument that science “provided” everything is not even relevant and it is also not accurate. Science provides nothing but knowledge through proper research using a specific methodology. Science also misses things because it employs a fixed methodology.
      Your point about energy not being created or destroyed only applies in a closed system. The universe is not believed by science to be a closed system, it is believed finite and it had a beginning – reckoned 14 billion years ago. That means the energy in our universe is also believed to be the same. Science explains NOTHING about the beginning of time and matter – it cannot do so by DEFINITION. The hypothesised quantum singularity “came” from somewhere.
      Your idea of uncreated energy is not supported by science. In fact it sounds more like Aristotle than science. Quantum physicists are recently trying to revive the idea that the universe is eternal because it would solve some problems for them, but it flies in the face of ALL evidence and more importantly for you, everything that science has taught/known as definitive since Einstein. The reason is obvious – if the universe is eternal, then time is an eternal property. If time is eternal, then light is eternal. Yet we know light has a fixed speed in our reality? If it can be quantified, then how can it be eternal? We also know that matter is not eternal – it can be divided into indivisible units. If it were eternal – i.e. analogue, then it should also be infinitely indivisible – true or false? Written in Genesis, long before Aristotle the bible says – “In the beginning…”. the bible acknowledges a finite universe and the separation of light/dark. Even though it was written thousands of years ago, guess who is right?
      Your point about not telling humans they are sinful is simply an argument to tell people lies. For example, if a person is unfaithful to their spouse, it would normally be accepted that this reflects selfishness and shows a lack of love. There may also be unwanted consequences for children, etc. The modern liberal solution is the selfish one – 1) there is no God, 2) whatever makes YOU happy is the right thing.
      Well, if we all lived by such a code to the extreme, then no one would be or feel loved and everyone would do/take whatever they liked whenever they liked. It is a good thing that most people are 1) able to love and 2) restrained by conscience to stop themselves at the gate when they are veering too far – i.e. consciousness that a certain path is “wrong”.
      Jesus taught his followers to go even deeper that that – even THINKING about doing something wrong, is a wrong in itself. This acknowledges the basic psychology of humans – we can convince ourselves that anything is acceptable given enough time to mull it over, even when we know that it is wrong. So, if you feel bad for even THINKING it, that is a much higher principle and shows the need to stop the thought right there. Human nature is to look for greener pastures and try and find a way to do something we know we shouldn’t. A person who acknowledges this can be helped, a person who doesn’t acknowledge it is in “denial” and as you know from psychology 101, people in denial cannot be helped.
      Thinking of yourself through that lens does not crush self esteem unless you are unbalanced. It may put a damper on self assuredness, but not so much on self esteem. The part you are missing is that sin/wrongdoing is a fact. If you want to argue that point, perhaps you could reply point blank that you do not believe anything is “wrong” – i.e. amorality. Most people would not be willing to do that, but we shall see.
      How could knowing that there is a higher purpose, solution and hope on offer damage anyone?