Going Back To Prison To Set Men Free

Going Back To Prison To Set Men Free April 13, 2018

How did it feel for a former convicted fellow to go back to prison?

Shut-In Ministries

Our small church not only has a nursing home ministry, but also a prison ministry, and we based our nursing home ministry on James 1:27 where for many years I just read over that. It was only when one of our elderly church members had to enter into a nursing home facility that it occurred to me that these are some of the orphans and the widows mentioned in the Bible by James where he wrote, “Religion that is pure and undefiled before God the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their affliction, and to keep oneself unstained from the world.” These shut-ins cannot go to church, so we bring the church to them! I once asked them, “How many of you are orphans and widows,” and nearly all of the hands shot up! Almost all of them were widows, widowers, and of course at that age, orphans, but God has not forsaken His own, even when they are old. God says that “even to your old age I am he, and to gray hairs I will carry you. I have made, and I will bear; I will carry and will save” (Isaiah 46:4), and God often uses others to do that “carrying.” I try to encourage the elderly there that “They still bear fruit in old age; they are ever full of sap and green” (Psalm 92:15), and especially since they have eternal life. I can give them Jesus’ own promise that “Whoever believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live, and everyone who lives and believes in me shall never die. Do you believe this” (John 11:25-b26)? Of course, most of them do believe, but prisoners are also shut-ins. In fact, they are “locked ins,” and some for life! It doesn’t matter…many of them are being set free in prison.

Keys to the Kingdom

I had no idea when I began this prison ministry years ago that, as a former convicted felon (in the mid 1970’s), I would be going back to prison, but not for committing a crime, but to be used by God to set men free. I believe it takes a man of God with the Word of God and the Spirit of God to create the children of God for the glory of God. In other words, it’s all about God and not about us! I never thought that Jesus’ giving the keys of the kingdom to the church would be a key that would fit a prison door. No one would have expected a former felon to be allowed to re-enter the prison population, but not as an inmate, but as a saved sinner on a mission to set other sinners free. Jesus says to me, to these men, and to all, “If you abide in my word, you are truly my disciples, and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free” (John 8:31-32). I had the great privilege of preaching the gospel of repentance and faith (Mark 1:15-15) at the prison, and told these men that if they desired to be set free, they must abide in Christ’s word, and those words are found in Scripture. I was nervous before such a large audience, yet, I could say with the Apostle Paul, “For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek” (Rom 1:16). This means the gospel has the power. I have no power. Only God’s Word and His Spirit have power. Elsewhere, Paul wrote that “the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God” (1 Cor 1:18). It is simply unleashing God’s Word that saves people, particularly when the Spirit of God opens their minds to it.

Baptized In Prison

After the service, I asked if anyone else wanted to put their trust in Christ. Many came forward, but not as a result of what I said, but as an effect of the Spirit of God and the Word of God. Anything I can talk someone into, someone else can talk them out of, but when it’s the Spirit of God that moves men’s and women’s hearts, it’s a mighty miracle of the soul that makes them seek repentance and faith in Christ. It is God Who grants repentance (2 Tim 2:25); it is God Who quickens the dead (Eph 2:1-2); and it is God Who draws men and women to Himself through Christ to be saved (John 6:44). After these men came forward in brokenness and confessing their sins, they finally saw their need for Christ as their Savior. Today, He is their Savior, but for those who reject Him, He will be their Judge. To be your Savior is infinitely better than for Him to be your Judge (Rev 20:12-15). Today would be the best of days to put your trust in Him, while it’s still called “today” (2 Cor 6:2), because death comes to all, and after that, the judgment (Heb 9:27).

Conclusion

What is the biblical basis for ministering to prisoners? I’m not sure, but I believe it is what Jesus taught in Matthew 25. He said, “For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me” (Matt 26:35-36), and the way Jesus sees it is, “as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me” (Matt 25:40). Some would argue that those prisoners are in prison on account of their crime, and they deserve to be there. Fair enough, but we must leave room for change. Any Saul can become a Paul by God’s Spirit, so I don’t believe we should try to narrow the focus of that verse (Matt 25:36). I would rather err on the side of evangelizing prisoners than to seek to minister only to those who are in prison for their faith. Of course, we should minister to them (if it’s even possible), and pray for them, but we should also seek out the lost, and in the most unlikely of places; behind prison walls. I have seen the hardest of men brought to tears and humility. I have seen men’s hearts of stone turn to tenderheartedness. That’s God’s Spirit at work! There is a great harvest…white and ripe, and so who will go with me? Pray for more laborers to enter into the harvest, because “The harvest is plentiful, but the laborers are few” (Matt 9:37), “therefore pray earnestly to the Lord of the harvest to send out laborers into his harvest” (Matt 9:38).

Article by Jack Wellman

Jack Wellman is Pastor of the Mulvane Brethren Church in Mulvane Kansas. Jack is a writer at Christian Quotes and also the Senior Writer at What Christians Want To Know whose mission is to equip, encourage, and energize Christians and to address questions about the believer’s daily walk with God and the Bible. You can follow Jack on Google Plus or check out his book Teaching Children the Gospel available on Amazon.

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  • pud

    “I have seen the hardest of men brought to tears and humility. I have seen men’s hearts of stone turn to tenderheartedness. That’s God’s Spirit at work!”

    Demonstrate that such a thing as “spirit” exists….try even to offer a coherent definition of “spirit”

    Demonstrate that whatever you have witnessed is the “spirit” of a “god” at work

    Explain why your “god” would make a hardened criminal cry but ignore thousands if not millions of suffering children that will die today from horrific means

    Demonstrate the effectiveness of “prayer” especially in light of the other “belief” you have that “gods will be done” which would render your pitiful bleating useless

    Demonstrate ANYTHING that you claim to be actually true.

    Waiting…..

    • Kera Lynn

      Hey, Pud, how are you doing?

      • pud

        Testing….1 2 3 ….my comments have been getting deleted for no good reason

        • Kera Lynn

          Aw that’s sad :(. And weird. This worked. has it been different places not just the Crier?

          • pud

            Seems it was a Discus thing…fixed now. Are you still under the spell of this absurd cult or have you learned to reason?

          • Kera Lynn

            I am still a Christian but quite changed. I’ll tell you the story if you’re interested…

          • pud

            Sorry to hear that you’re still under the influence of this absurd mythology and death cult….Sure! I’d love to hear your story

          • Kera Lynn

            Hmmm…are you eager to hear it simply so you can bash it? I’d love to tell you if you’ll exercise some self control. 🙂

          • pud

            LOL….I’m not going to just nod my head and tell you “oh that’s nice” You know me better than that. Do you want the truth or some dummy to just confirm whatever you’re thinking?

          • Kera Lynn

            Yes, I do know you better than that. And you can make of it what you. But I don’t want to listen to “deserved ridicule” as you call it. Just let’s have a nice, relaxing conversation, ok? 😉

          • pud

            ok

          • Kera Lynn

            Sooo…? Are you good?

          • pud

            Fire away!

          • Kera Lynn

            Alrighty then! This may get long, you might want some popcorn or something….

            So, a couple of weeks ago I went to a ladies’ bible study. It was a special because a lady was coming that we had been praying for because months earlier, she’d been diagnosed with cancer. So, she was basically coming to tell her story. I won’t give all the details because it doesn’t matter a whole lot, but the past weeks had been really…hard for me. Family issues, disease, and depression had taken their toll on my heart and mind and I was really discouraged.

            Then, I was sitting there, listening to this woman talk about the unexpected night in the hospital alone after surgery (unexpected because they hadn’t known she’d had cancer until earlier that day). She said that she remembered just feeling completely terrified with no one there. And in that moment she began to whisper the name of Jesus over and over (she said that she was so afraid that she couldn’t think even think to pray a real prayer.) When she did this, she began to feel the most indiscernible peace come over her. Like she could feel His Presence and she knew it was going to be alright, no matter the outcome.

            For me, hearing that was like a complete wake-up call. Like, HELLO! Where have you been? I realize how much I’d been focusing on the storm intead of on jesus, who was tryin to teach me to walk on water. I was so completely overwhelmed with His joy that I could have stood up and sung it right then.
            To you, this sounds completely insane. To me, this is completely real.

          • pud

            Tell me how many people get, have, die from and experience remission from cancer every day?

            I’ve posted this argument before…..If a Dr. had the cure for all manner of disease and yet withheld the cures and instead only demonstrated them in a couple of cases….would you consider him a moral monster or not?

            According to your cult, “jesus” could cure blindness and leprosy and did so on a couple of occasions yet he did nothing to eradicate the diseases and is apparently quite content to sit back and watch untold suffering day in and day out…..would you consider him a moral monster like the Dr?

            Your “jesus” gave you and this woman warm and fuzzy feelings while millions of children die from disease and starvation…..tell me how out of wack this is

          • Kera Lynn

            I never said she was healed. She had surgery and is doing well, but not “healed”. This is the conversation I didn’t care to have, unfortunately.
            Can’t you step back and look at MY story for a sec? Stop bringing other things into it like you did. Just close your eyes and let your mind think freely for a moment. Just ONE moment.

          • pud

            I’m sorry for your troubles but I’m not going to tell you that playing make believe is a sound way to deal with lifes issues

          • Kera Lynn

            I don’t care of you’re sorry for me….I’m not here for pity. I’m trying to show you, as a friend, how real it is. It’s not make-believe. It’s tangible, it’s peace not matter what. Can’t you just try and see?

          • pud

            No, you’re NOT showing that anything is real. People take sugar pills and “feel” better. They pray to allah and ganesh and “feel” better. They pet a dog and “feel” better but none of those things are real except the dog. You could have put a “magic crystal” under your pillow and “felt” better…would that prove that the crystal has magical feel good powers?

          • Kera Lynn

            Okay, time to lay it out there. I don’t think anyone can convince you, except God Himself (which actually could be a good thing). So I have a challenge for you. I’m not sure if you’ll be brave enough to try it, but we’ll have to see. Will you take a challenge that may be a bit out of your norm???

          • pud

            Depends…I’m not going to sacrifice a goat nor am I going to babble some gibberish to your invisible undetectable agent in the sky

          • Kera Lynn

            Omw lol. We don’t do sacrifices anymore… ;D
            Alright, here’s the challenge: tonight, after you have everything you need to do done, get a Bible (preferably KJV, if not NKJV or ESV). Take it to your bedroom or somewhere quiet. And I want to make yourself vulnerable. Not defensive, but completely open-minded as if hoping to find something you’ve been waiting for. Before you open the Bible, pray to the Christian God. Honestly, I don’t care if you begin by saying “If You’re up there…” Just try to pretend for a sec that it might be possible. Pray that God would make Himself known to you, whether you believe He will or not. Just do it. Then open the Bible and read something. Like, Psalms, or the Gospels or something (keeping an open mind).
            And that is my challenge. If you’re so set on believing that God does not exist, then you shouldn’t shy away from it.

          • pud

            For the same reason I’m not going to read the Q’ran or the Bagvada Gita I’m not reading your ridiculous fairy tale again…I’ve read it, considered all the evidence and I’m certain that snakes don’t talk

          • pud

            Flipped it open…how about these classics? Care to explain why you ignore them in favor of fluffy feel good?

            (Deuteronomy 20:10-14)

            As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.

            What kind of God approves of murder, rape, and slavery?

            4) Laws of Rape (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NAB)

            If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.

            What kind of lunatic would make a rape victim marry her attacker? Answer: God.

          • Kera Lynn

            You did not “flip it open” you copy and pasted from somewhere -_-.
            You didn’t take the challenge at all. Failed.

          • pud

            I just demonstrated why it’s a stupid “challenge”

          • Kera Lynn

            No, you didn’t. You didn’t ASK to be shown. You just went ahead and tried for yourself. 😛

          • pud

            You are also grossly out of proportion. To think that invisible undetectable “jesus” would make you “feel” better all the while ignoring the millions of truly suffering and dying people across the globe makes you either highly credulous or full of self importance

          • Kera Lynn

            Giiirl, you make it sound like you’re trying to guilt trip me for having joy. Just cuz I have it doesn’t mean I hoard it lol. I looove to share it with others, like you(?). Just cuz others don’t know the peace of God doesn’t mean I should feel bad for having it. your logic is kinda warped.

          • pud

            You entirely miss my point. It is absurd to think that your magic man would dry your eyes upon your request while ignoring all the dying children in the world.

          • Kera Lynn

            Who said He ignores them?

          • pud

            They are suffering and dying horrible deaths while their mothers grieve yet your “jesus” is too busy drying your saddened eyes to notice or care. What don’t you get about this obscenely dis-proportionate picture?

          • Kera Lynn

            Have you talked to them? How do you know He doesn’t dry their tears too? Don’t be so common.
            Read my other reply…

          • pud

            Because they die of terrible causes! Hello? You have no sense of scale whatsoever. Is there untold suffering going on right this minute all over the world? Yes or No?

            If your “jesus” can make you feel better can he bring an end to this suffering? Yes or No?

            It is perverted (Like my Dr. example which you ignored) to have the ability to end suffering and then allow it to continue? Yes or No?

            Would you if you had the ability end all suffering? Yes or No?

          • Kera Lynn

            You know what, pud? Just because they don’t live in luxury doesn’t mean God does not hear their cries. There are increasingly more Christian destitute children, and guess what? If you asked them, they’d say they were happy! Look up “Kisses From Katie” by Katie Davis and read a couple of pages.

          • pud

            Show me a child and his family who is happy as he is dying in a cancer ward.

            Answer my questions or I’m done….I don’t approve of your slipperiness and evasiveness

            You reached out to me…either stay on topic or have a nice day…I’m not playing your games

          • Kera Lynn

            Did you just tell me to stay on topic??? This isn’t the topic I chose, so don’t complain to me. You never answered when I asked how you were doing. So there. Answer that and I’ll answer your questions.

          • pud

            I did…I told that I’m doing great!

          • Kera Lynn

            I don’t think you did. Whatever. State your questions. *yawn*

          • pud

            Repeating…see above and how you simply ignored it

            Because they die of terrible causes! Hello? You have no sense of scale whatsoever. Is there untold suffering going on right this minute all over the world? Yes or No?

            If your “jesus” can make you feel better can he bring an end to this suffering? Yes or No?

            It is perverted (Like my Dr. example which you ignored) to have the ability to end suffering and then allow it to continue? Yes or No?

            Would you if you had the ability end all suffering? Yes or No?

          • Kera Lynn

            In a way, He does put an end to their suffering. Just because you don’t live in perfect circumstances with lots of money and everything you need, doesn’t mean you can’t be happy. Those who give their lives to Him have a pure joy that doesn’t rely on “stuff”.
            Yes, and He does.
            Yes, but He does.
            Yes, and sometimes I can, with His help.

          • pud

            You are not rational.

            Nowhere did I ever mention money or stuff. I said that children are dying horrible deaths at this very moment and their families are devastated ….Is this true? Yes or No?

            Can your “jesus” stop this? Yes or No? You cannot say “yes and he does” because clearly he doesn’t as evidenced by the FACT that children are dying horrible deaths at this very moment!

            Is it perverted to have the ability to end ALL suffering and not use it? Yes or No?

            Does “jesus” have this power? Yes or No?

            Is there still suffering going on this very second? Yes or No?

            Is “jesus” not doing anything about it at this very second despite having the ability to? Yes or No?

            Would you watch this suffering going on this very second if you could stop it this very second? Yes or No?

            Can you not read properly?

          • Kera Lynn

            Did you see the news this week??? I’m going somewhere, bear with me…

          • pud

            Maybe you could be more specific?

          • Kera Lynn

            Hmmm…the teenagers in Maine that murdered their mom???

          • pud

            What about it? People murder each other all the time

          • Kera Lynn

            Ahhhh! what’s wrong with you? No sanctity of life left in world! Let Your kingdom come, Lord! As a teenager who wants to bring life back to her generation, I find it very disheartening.
            Anyways, back to what I was saying…when I look at the news and what the world is doing, I don’t blame God for judging our nation. We have turned against Him! We are rebels and we are losing. That’s the whole point of this!

          • pud

            Oh so it’s the old “we kicked god out of the schools” argument eh? That’s why some kids murdered a bunch of people eh?

            Curious why you always stop short of the next logical question…

            Why would your all loving, all powerful “god” let these murders happen when he supposedly is infinitely capable of stopping them?

            I the schools “kicked you out” would you allow a mass murder to take place if you had the total power to stop it?

          • Kera Lynn

            Free will. You know it, we’ve had this conversation before. He gave us the blessing or the curse of free will. He doesn’t control us, but He would guide us if we asked.
            You’re not going to take the challenge, are you? Ah, well, I expected more of you, pud. I really did.

          • pud

            WRONG!

            1. It wouldn’t matter one bit if we had “free will” or not (we don’t by the way)…your sister has “free will” …if you knew she was going to mow down a dozen people at a school would you intercede and stop her? Funny that you would but your “god” won’t eh?

            2. Is life perfect in “heaven”? Do you have free will there? Then life could be perfect here too couldn’t it and “free will” has nothing to do with it. Your made up “god” can have a “heaven” paradise with “free will” but he chooses to allow suffering here on Earth with “free will”

            You really are not capable of rational thinking

          • Kera Lynn

            The whole point is that WE rebelled, therefore, God is letting us see what it’s like WITHOUT Him. It’s our fault and we are paying. He is waiting for us to ask for help, not interfering when every day we curse His name! You don’t get it.

          • pud

            What a grotesquely sick perverted make believe system you’ve been deluded into believing.

            An infinitely loving all powerful “god” sitting back watching people kill each other as “punishment” for not begging him for help.

            You just think on how sick that is.

          • Kera Lynn

            You, yourself, curse Him! You take His name in vain! People everywhere blame Him for e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g. Do we deserve help?

          • pud

            There is no “him” It’s all in your head. It’s all made up bullshit

            Have a nice evening

          • Kera Lynn

            Same to you…and If your so sure, then TAKE THE CHALLENGE! 🙂

          • pud

            You are incapable of seeing how completely corrupted you are by this sick death cult that has its talons into you

            If I had children who “rebelled” I would not let them go at each other with knives so they could “pay” for their rebellion

            If I had infinite powers of reason and was infinitely loving I would instantly reason with them so they would see the truth

            You claim that your sick mentally ill “god” allows all this wanton killing and evil as a lesson like Kim Il Sung would if everyone doesn’t bow to “dear leader”….This makes you just a sick, wicked and evil as your make believe deity

            Good day

          • Kera Lynn

            Yeah, He does reason with us…The bible? Hello? it’s got all the answers. Literally.
            Since it seems you’re leaving, have a good day. I do wish you’d consider my challenge tho. Oh well, God can change your heart. Goodbye, my friend.

          • pud

            There are only two kinds of people who talk to invisible undetectable friends…..3 year old children and psychotics.

          • Kera Lynn

            Whatever. See ya

          • pud

            If you cared about actual truth….If you cared about being intelligent when you speak….If you cared for rational thought and reason….If you spent 10 minutes doing some research before you babble something…

            Tell me which nations are the MOST violent and which are the least…..

            The top several most violent nations on the planet are religious. America has more people in prison than any other nation. America ranks near the top for violent crimes, mass murders, drug abuse and mental illness along with the muslim nations and the highly religious countries of Asia, Africa and S. America.

            The least violent, happiest, most well adjusted nations on the planet are the SECULAR nations of Scandinavia, Japan and Western Europe. These also have the highest standards of living, the least murders and social dysfunctions.

            10 minutes is all it would have taken you to educate yourself before you babbled on about how bad life is without “Jebsus” 10 minutes and a second of rational thinking would PROVE to you that the religious states are THE worst in every category and the secular nations are clearly the leaders in every measure of well being.

            Time to grow up

          • Kera Lynn

            You don’t give in very easily, do you?

          • pud

            Nope…I’m the religion terminator. I think you’re a nice person. I’m sad that you’ve been hoodwinked and indoctrinated into this despicable make believe cult. I think you genuinely want answers but are afraid. This is why I’ve been willing to engage with you, to show you how foolish “belief” in nonsense is, how ridiculous your religion is, how absurd this ancient book is. Hopefully you’ll see the light and grow into a person who respects evidence, reason and who rejects myth and superstition. You will be all the better once you do.

          • Kera Lynn

            Okay, thanks for caring. But I feel at peace with what I believe, although I’ve had some doubt, most of it is gone now. God has made Himself known to me, I truly believe that, and not because someone else told me to. I’m completely serious.

          • pud

            You’re not thinking….I know that you “believe” but you do not “know” You want to “believe” so you ignore everything that might call into question your feel good fantasy.

            This “god” you “believe” in is a moral monster as I’ve clearly demonstrated

            This “heaven” you “hope” for is just one eternal church service that you can never leave…..hell to be sure

            Snakes don’t talk, there was no flood, there was no “creation” the earth is not 6000 years old, men did not roam with dinosaurs, there is no actual historical evidence to support a single one of your cults claims….in essence you are saying that you don’t care what’s true…you just want to wrap yourself in a warm fuzzy blanket no matter how absurd it actually is.

            That’s sad…it’s a waste of your life

          • Kera Lynn

            okay.

          • pud

            You shouldn’t “believe” anything. You should, if you want to be a rational person, accept certain propositions based upon the strength of evidence. “Belief” is the same as gullibility. All “beliefs” are in the same camp and carry the same weight as they do not require any proof, logic, reason or evidence. Fools “believe” Rational thinking adults do not.

          • Kera Lynn

            Thanks for calling me a gullible fool. You’re the best.

          • pud

            I’m not going to lie to you. That’s for your preacher to do.

            If you told me that you “believe” in the Loch Ness Monster and that you’ve crafted your entire perception of reality around this “belief”

            You would be a fool and you would be gullible

            Don’t hide from facts…don’t fear reality….look at yourself honestly every day and be a truth seeker not a swallower of some crap other gullible fools lay on you

          • Kera Lynn

            Alrighty, read my last other reply.
            Name calling is not necessary to get a point across, BTW.

          • Kera Lynn

            Besides, if my belief has taught me anything, it has taught me love, patience and acceptance. What has your atheism taught you? I don’t want to become like you, no offence. You’re cruel and rude. Sooo…

          • pud

            That’s completely false.

            “Beliefs” teach you nothing because they do not comport with reality. I am patient…look at how many times I’ve tried to reason with you. I’m not cruel I’m honest.

            You do not need to “believe” in the absurd to be a kind loving person.

            Tell me….if you found out with 100% certainty that your entire faith was a lie tomorrow….would you stop being kind, patient and loving?

          • Kera Lynn

            Ha! I might…I’ve been let down too many times to not act bitter if THAT happened.

          • pud

            I doubt that. You are a good person and would remain so.

            The point is that good people don’t need a celestial dictator ruling over them. They are good in spite of adversity. Anyone in your cult who upon finding out that it’s all a lie (it is) that would instantly rush out to rape and murder isn’t really a good person, they are a sick person held in restraints by imaginary jailers.

          • Kera Lynn

            Whatever. What do you want from me??

          • pud

            Who keeps upvoting me? LOL

            I would like the same from you as from everyone…to become a critical thinker who respects evidence and reason who is immune to superstition and indoctrination.

          • Kera Lynn

            Ummm….me? I’m replying from my notifications so I think it shows up as “guest” for some reason.
            Alright, I’ll make you a deal: I will take the rest of this week to consider your ideas, if you take the challenge I told you about yesterday. Deal??

          • pud

            Nope…I am not 3 years old nor am I psychotic. I do not talk to invisible undetectable friends. If this thing you “believe” in wants me to know he’s real he knows where to reach me. I’m not playing mind games nor am I going to attempt to convince myself of something that isn’t demonstrably true. You can consider my words or not…I KNOW that they are truthful. You are blind right now…you are afraid and intimidated by this cult and your vengeful invisible man in the sky…I am not and never will be. You can choose the path of being a rational critical thinker and accept that it doesn’t always feel good or you can delude yourself with fantasies and make believe…all depends on what you value more….truth or fiction

          • Kera Lynn

            Alright then. I don’t think it’s fair for you to expect others to consider what you say if you’re not going to give what they say a slight chance. You’re really the one who is narrow minded.
            And I am not afraid of the church. -_-

          • pud

            I have considered the religious position for longer than you’ve been alive ….I know what is true and what isn’t

            It’s up to you if you’re going to care more for the truth than “feel good”…I do care

          • Kera Lynn

            You haven’t considered it, you’ve bashed it. There’s a huge difference.

          • pud

            No, I’ve considered it, studied religion in school, read the books, viewed every debate and thoroughly thought it out….It’s all bullshit and everyone who swallows it is either mentally lazy, ignorant, gullible or has been indoctrinated into it. This is true for all religions not just your cult. I don’t do death cults, I don’t do invisible men, I don’t do talking snakes and there never was any “jesus” It’s a myth…a story…an ancient story written by ignorant lunatics…not my bag.

          • pud
          • Kera Lynn

            Okay.

          • pud

            This is your problem and the problem with all you cult members….You do not care for evidence or truth. You see something and then you fit it to your preferred narrative

            A little homework on your part would PROVE that we live in the most peaceful time in all of human history! We have the highest standard of living, the lowest crime rates, the least violence in at least the last 200,000 years! FACT!

            You see a horrible act and weave it into your storyline….this is delusional and dishonest

            The FACTS say that no time in human history has EVER been better. Which includes almost all of history when RELIGION was the main perpetrator of violence and oppression.

            Do some homework before you make a half assed judgement

          • Kera Lynn

            Don’t be a jerk, pud, an start calling names (oops). Just because it’s the “best it’s been” doesn’t mean it’s doing good. People are still murdering each other…and teenagers doing it???!! That’s a new-ish one. It’s not getting any better, in truth.

          • pud

            It’s infinitely better! FACT. When’s the last witch burning done by your cult?

          • Kera Lynn

            -_-

          • pud

            You’re also avoiding my questions and straying once more as you know full well you have no argument to make

          • Kera Lynn

            Just be quiet and let me talk for once.

          • Kera Lynn

            Oh and questions are welcome, just remember what I said earlier! 🙂

    • Michael Butler

      Hi pud,
      Somehow I wandered onto this forum. I read some of your comments and those of others. I would like to hear your story, please. Looking forward to your reply. Best regards, michael

      • pud

        LOL….what a ridiculous request! Do you want me to start at my birth?

        • Michael Butler

          Sure, pud, if it makes your story more interesting. Where were you born? I was born about 25 miles NE of Boston Massachusetts.

  • Banchayehu Bekele

    My name Banchi, I am living Ethiopia our country a different place have a prison and many people in the prison by political case. We must together working the Voice of GOD. Can you join us? God bless you. when you interested please contact me. my email address banchibekele@yahoo.com or banchayehu1@gmail.com
    Be blessed.
    Banchayehu Bekele

  • R12.18

    Reminds me of when a friend told me his dad visited him in prison. His dad told him there are people in that prison who are more free than people out of jail walking on the streets.

    My friend said that made him really mad – but later learned what he meant.