Is There A Point Of No Return?

Is There A Point Of No Return? September 12, 2018

Does the Bible teach that if a person rejects Christ over and over again, will they reach a point where they can’t be saved?

Strong Delusion

The Apostle Paul spoke about the days when many would reject the truth. Why? It would be because of “the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders, and with all wicked deception for those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved (2 Thess 2:9-10). The more often you reject the light of God, the harder it will be for you to see it. In time, those who reject the truth will not be saved because they did not love the truth. Eventually, “God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false, in order that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness” (2 Thess 2:11-12). They purposely choose to reject it. God did not force them into unbelief. It was their decision. The Bible teaches that he that is reproved or corrected often, and yet hardens his heart, will see destruction come suddenly (Prov 29:1), but one that is reproved and corrected and repents of their sins, and then trusts in Christ, will receive eternal life (Mark 1:14-15).

Striving with Man

In Noah’s day, God gave the people ample time to repent, but they rejected the righteous preaching of Noah; some believe, for over a hundred years! In Noah’s day, “The Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intention of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually” (Gen 6:5), and so “the Lord regretted that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him to his heart” (Gen 6:3). Why? Because “the earth was corrupt in God’s sight, and the earth was filled with violence” (Gen 6:11). Apparently, all they ever did was sit around and think up new ways to do evil (Gen 6:5), so they reached a point where even Noah’s preaching couldn’t reach them. This shows that God will not continually strive or contend with mankind to repent (Gen 6:3). People can reach a point where they no longer love the truth, and in fact, want to believe a lie. That is willfully rejecting the truth and when they do that, God gives them up to that rejection.

God Gives Them Up

The Apostle Paul wrote that mankind knows in his heart that God exists. They simply suppress it, even though they have no excuse for doing so (Rom 1:20-22), and in time, the person that denies God’s existence will harden their hearts to a point when they don’t want to hear about it anymore. That means, there comes a time when they don’t even want to hear the truth. What happens is that after they continually reject the truth, “they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened” (Rom 1:21), and so, “Claiming to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things” (Rom 1:22-23). It is at this point that “God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen” (Rom1:23-24). Again, “God gave them up to dishonorable passions” (Rom 1:26a), and for the third time, Paul writes that “since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done” (Rom 1:28). Three times “God gave them up,” but truly, “The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance” (2 Pet 3:9). Seek Him today because “the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a roar, and the heavenly bodies will be burned up and dissolved, and the earth and the works that are done on it will be exposed” (2 Pet 3:10).

Open Invitation

There is an open invitation to all who would come to Christ, but you must come before Christ returns or before death. Just as in Jesus’ day, so it is today that “If anyone thirsts, let him come to me and drink” (John 7:37b). Isaiah the Prophet says to “everyone who thirsts, come to the waters; and he who has no money, come, buy and eat! Come, buy wine and milk without money and without price” (Isaiah 55:1). Jesus says in the Book of Revelation to “let the one who hears say, “Come.” And let the one who is thirsty come; let the one who desires take the water of life without price” (Rev 22:17). Jesus spoke about the living water to the Samaritan woman at the well. He told her that “whoever drinks of the water that I will give him will never be thirsty again. The water that I will give him will become in him a spring of water welling up to eternal life” (John 4:14). The woman thought it was another source of water for physical sustenance, but this was the living water that springs up unto eternal life! The water she thought Jesus spoke about, would never satisfy (John 4:13).

Conclusion

What is the point when a person becomes unredeemable (due to their own choice, not God’s)? I don’t know. Only God knows this. I just know that God gives them up to their own disbelief. We are told to choose life and listen to the Holy Spirit’s voice, while it is still called today, meaning that Jesus has not yet returned. Today, while it’s still “today,” you have a chance to trust in Christ before your judgment comes after death or at Christ’s return (Dan 12:1-3; Heb 9:27; Rev 1:7, 20:12-15, 21:8), but the more you suppress the Spirit’s voice, the less you will be hear His voice, so hear Him today (2 Cor 6:2). God “commands all people everywhere to repent,” (Acts 17:30b), so “my prayer is to you, O LORD. At an acceptable time, O God, in the abundance of your steadfast love answer me in your saving faithfulness” (Psalm 69:13). Come today, while there is still time, because tomorrow may be too late.

Article by Jack Wellman

Jack Wellman is Pastor of the Mulvane Brethren Church in Mulvane Kansas. Jack is a writer at Christian Quotes and also the Senior Writer at What Christians Want To Know whose mission is to equip, encourage, and energize Christians and to address questions about the believer’s daily walk with God and the Bible. You can follow Jack on Google Plus or check out his book Teaching Children the Gospel available on Amazon.

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  • pud

    “Insanity is knowing that what you’re doing is completely idiotic, but still, somehow, you just can’t stop it.”

    1. Crafting ones world view around an ancient book written by no name religious superstitious lunatics who knew next to nothing of how the universe actually works…qualifies as insanity. Having it pointed out to you over and over and over how absurd this “blind faith belief” is and still maintaining the same ridiculous world view proves it.

    2. “They purposely choose to reject it. God did not force them into unbelief. It was their decision.” LOL! NO ONE CAN MAKE THEMSELVES BELIEVE OR NOT BELIEVE ANYTHING..try jack…pick something you “believe” in and then with a blink of your eyes stop believing it. See how absurd everything you babble is? See how totally vacuous of critical thought every single thing you write is?

    3. “The Apostle Paul wrote that mankind knows in his heart that God exists.” For the hundredth time jack…WHO CARES what a religious lunatic said 2000 years ago? What kind of dimwit accepts a few letters written by a murderer and psychotic who had visions as truth? How gullible must you be to swallow whole the ravings of a mentally ill ancient freak? What are you not capable of “believing”?

    4. “People can reach a point where they no longer love the truth, and in fact, want to believe a lie. That is willfully rejecting the truth ” LOL!!! You make your wretched living LYING TO CHILDREN! You have NO conception of what is true or how to arrive at it! You shun the truth at every turn and reject outright any and everything that demonstrates the ridiculousness of the crap you “believe” The “truth” can be place right under your nose (as I often do) and you, like a petulant child, close your eyes and hum some gospel song while wailing about demons before you run away to pray your dim witted brains out! You won’t debate be because you KNOW how badly you would lose and how indefensible your cult world is.

    5. “We are told to choose life and listen to the Holy Spirit’s voice, while it is still called today, meaning that Jesus has not yet returned. ” LOL!!! Yeah, and your invisible undetectable genie in the sky isn’t going to either…because NO SUCH THING EXISTS! Oh, nice touch adding the “before it’s too late”!!!! OH NO!!!! Believe stupidity, join the cult, believe the absurd OR ELSE!! cuz he luvs you!!

    You, your cult, your imaginary deity(s) your demons, devils, invisible realms, ancient story book etc etc etc are SICK! You are a terrorist jack…a psychological terrorist infecting the undefended minds of children and simple minded hayseeds. You should be so ashamed of your entire wasted life.

    IT’S A BOOK JACK! Books are NOT true by default and it’s 100% certain that the older the BOOK the less likely anything in it is true. We determine the truth of words in books by CRITICAL EXAMINATION in light of FACTS that we KNOW about the universe around us…..THE EARTH IS NOT 6000 years old, THERE WAS NO GLOBAL FLOOD, THERE WAS NO ADAM AND EVE, THERE ARE NO DEMONS etc etc etc etc….EVERYTHING in your BOOK is FALSE Demonstrably, provably, in-arguably WRONG! Yet you don’t care AND you “claim” to love the truth. This makes you insane…either willfully insane or insane because of your criminal indoctrination by previous stupid cult members who like you couldn’t care less for reality, truth, facts or reason.

    What a horrible waste of a life jack…

  • Glory

    Thanks for the deep subject, Pastor. Everyone needs to care for his own soul and Jesus teaches us how to care for it best.

    Let’s praise God now so the spirit of heaviness doesn’t descend on us from reading such a dark topic as the loss of a human soul through a seared conscience.

    Singing God’s praise lifts the spirit of heaviness.

    Isaiah 61:3 King James Version (KJV)

    3 To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the Lord, that he might be glorified.

    Mercy Said No, Cece Winans
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra4F91nfQdc

    • Jack Wellman

      Beautifully put (your comments) and thank you for being so Christ-centered and Christ-focused.

      • Glory

        Thank you for setting the example in loving Jesus so devotedly.

    • HpO

      You read “Rom 1:23-24 … Rom 1:26 … Rom 1:28”, and you wanna boogie?!

      Hey hey another wave of thumbs up for CCM! Commercialized Church Muzak – what could possibly go wrong with that!

      • Glory

        No I don’t argue with confirmed atheisrs. I used to think it was humanitarian to argue but now I don’t.

        If you turned your back on God and He let you go then that’s it. That is a failure to form a relationship with the best person in the universe and must come from some unexamined private psycho-spiritual force inside yourself causing that.

        The unexamined life is not worth living so go do your private examination and get a counselor if you need help with it but leave me out of it.

        I have merely been posting to show my support for Pastor Wellman because he really is a good man and I like to read biblical topical studies.

        Most importantly wherever God’s people meet then God should receive praise.

        Since you don’t intend to praise Him you need to go bother someone else with this self obsessive need to prove yourself right.

        I believe God and unbelief is wrong.

        Have a blessed life and hope you see the light and repent.

        • HpO

          So that’s how it works in your church and churchianity. A born-again Bible Christian finds you boogie-ing to CCM, Commercialized Church Muzak, because you heard “Rom 1:23-24 … Rom 1:26 … Rom 1:28” read to you. Then what do you do when asked, “You read ‘Rom 1:23-24 … Rom 1:26 … Rom 1:28’, and you wanna boogie?!” You tell that person off, “You atheist!”

          Well, then, let me introduce myself. I’m HpO to you, and I’m a born-from-above, fired-up and die-hard follower of THE Christ Jesus of the gospels, epistles and revelation, enduring the cross that I carry in my life of faith in response to the ransoming Fatherly love of God through the crucifixion, burial and resurrection of His own beloved Son, Jesus, the Messiah of Israel and the savior of the rest of the world.

          • Glory

            Your posts are not clear. I thought you were an atheist wanting to debate.

            I am merely posting praise music to praise God.

            I will not be responding to your criticisms again as I am not feeling well.

            Have a blessed day!

    • Are you Charismatic or Pentecostal?

  • HpO

    “God Gives Them Up” incorporates a bad & wrong translation of παραδίδωμι. Or “parathithomi”. It shouldn’t have been translated as “God gave them up … [in] Rom 1:23-24 … Rom 1:26 … Rom 1:28”, because it’s positive, this word “parathithomi”, actually. Not negative at all in and of itself. The “para” part means “from close-beside” and “thithomi” means “give”. Hence, “God gave them with a sense of close-up and personal involvement in so doing”, is exactly what our apostle Paul had in mind when composing those verses in Romans 1:24, 26 and 28.

    In other words, they gave God up and, in return, God gave in to them.

    So, ya don’t want Me, then? Okeydokey, be that way, then. And how’s that working for ya?

    Answer: The world rejects Jesus, and the church is dead.

    That’s how all that’s working out for “them” both in the end. As in the here and now. In the world. And in the church.

    • Glory

      By the way, learn all 3 hell positions before assuming. Some people aren’t eternal torment believers.
      Some are universalists or annhilationists.

      • HpO

        This is relevant, how?

        • Glory

          It is relevant to people who want to establish the truth for themselves.

          Bereans research the scriptures and the ancient language and history.

          They don’t just parrot what they were taught.

          They might have been taught wrong by a bad teacher or someone with an evil heart.

          Luke 6:45 King James Version (KJV)

          45 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.

          Have a blessed day!

  • Lark62

    I suggest that any person who is not a psychopath and truly believes in hell would be childless.

    If I learned I carried a genetic defect that gave my offspring a 10% chance of living in unending pain for 50 years, I’d get my tubes tied. Immediately. I would be childless. No way would I take that risk.

    And you want me to believe christians have children truly believing that those humans have a chance of suffering excruciating pain for eternity?

    Sorry. I don’t buy it. Most christians are decent and normal. Hell is a handy threat if you want to coerce people into adopting your supernatural beliefs. But that’s all it is, a threat.

    If you are a decent human being and have children, you don’t believe in hell.

    • HpO

      Wrong! “Hell is [not] all … a threat.” Hell is also your life’s 9th Inning, the upshot of God & Jesus’ patience toward you, and Their justice matching all your deeds and declarations. It’s all good and the happiest of all happy endings; you’ll see. You’ll see then, though blissfully blind now.

      • Lark62

        If you believe in eternal torture and voluntarily conceive a child, you are a psychopath.

        If you are a normal caring person and voluntarily conceive a child, you don’t really believe in hell.

        • HpO

          So to you, THE Christ Jesus of the gospels, epistles and revelation is “a psychopath … [and] a[n ab]normal [un]caring person”, then. Because, see, He does “believe in eternal torture and … really believe in hell”, just as He already has been telling you:

          (1) “Do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.”

          (2) “I say to you, My friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body and after that have no more that they can do. But I will warn you whom to fear: fear the One who, after He has killed, has authority to cast into hell; yes, I tell you, fear Him!”

          Source: (1) Matthew 10:28. (2) Luke 12:4-5.

          • Lark62

            I am talking about choices made by actual people alive today. In that post, I was not commenting on the behavior of supernatural being nor the reality of supernatural places.

            It’s your theology, you work it out.

          • HpO

            When He said (1) and (2) about hell, the Christ Jesus wasn’t a “supernatural being” caught up in “the reality of supernatural places.” Just regular flesh & bone, like you and me. No “theology” required to “work [that] out.” Just a serious 1 to 1 talk with Him in series.

            Ggggooooaaaallll !!!!

            HpO 2:0 Lark62

          • Lark62

            Like playing chess with a pigeon….

            If you believe in eternal torture and voluntarily conceive a child, you are a psychopath.

          • HpO

            Ggggooooaaaallll !!!!

            HpO 3:0 Lark62

          • Lark62

            There is no “1 and 2.” These report the same episode, just told with slightly different words by the anonymous authors of Matthew and Luke. You know that, right?

            I’m not actually debating those words. I am asking why christians who believe those words would voluntarily conceive a new human being.

            Shouting “Goal” over and over when one has not answered (or possibly not even understood) the question is a tad weird.

    • Glory

      You know what? Many people don’t think so negatively as you do.

      Jesus did a beautiful thing for the whole world and everyone should acknowledge him for it.

      Some Christians don’t believe in hell. Some in fact have written detailed works that God’s will will prevail over all sinners and all will be saved.

      But you probably never bothered to learn anything about that.

      You are too busy taking your critical spirit out all over Christians because they love and respect God and live for Him and don’t think like you.

      You are not so intelligent. Instead of assuming like so many off of mainstream religious assumptions you could have researched and found the language experts who say hell has been mistranslated.

      God wins for everyone. Man’s free will is not greater than God’s.

      God is the parent and God is in control.

      I will not be responding further to you. I am too ill and you need to learn to research all the hell positions before publicly objecting as if you are better and smarter than everyone else.

      • Lark62

        Okay, apparently you are happy to bring a child into this world knowing that there is a definite chance that that human being will be tortured. Forever. Got it.

        I would not be able to do that. I have a conscience. I don’t think I am the one who is negative.

        • Glory

          Most people don’t think they are bringing their children in to this world to go to hell. That never even crosses some people’s minds.

          You are in the wrong because you questioned God’s character without questioning your own first.

          Jesus said to get the beam out of your eye. If you are a sinner how are you fit to judge a Holy God who owns everything by right of creation.

          You never learned God’s perspective at all.

          You just sat at the feet of evil men learning from them.

          Visit the Tentmaker site for the universalist position and history and language analysis or mercifultruth.com or some other site that explains.

          Have a blessed day!

          Luke 6:45 King James Version (KJV)

          45 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.

          • Lark62

            Most people don’t think they are bringing their children in to this world to go to hell. That never even crosses some people’s minds.

            Then it appears that atheists are not actually the ones with “psychotic tendencies.”

    • Glory

      Atheists have been studied by brain scientists and found to have more psycopathic tendenicies than do believers.

      • Lark62

        Nonsense. Citation, or did you pull that out of your nether regions?

        Atheism is just a conclusion that there is no evidence for gods, leprechauns, or any other imaginary being. That’s it. There are no more moral implications to not believing in Yahweh as there are to not believing in Thor or bigfoot.

        Look at the stats of prison populations, christian v atheist. Look at social metrics of states ranked by religiosity. Look at the social metrics of nations ranked by religiosity. Incarceration, teen pregnancy, everything is better the less religious the community. Them’s the facts.

    • Glory

      And the next time you want to post insults on a Christian blog I suggest you check your own kind’s political history around the world.

      Start with the Militant Society of the Godless’s crimes against humanity in the Soviet Union.

      And look at xenophobic atheist Yaroslavsky making state policy to wipe believers out.

      Wiki quote:
      The problems that Yaroslavsky outlined in his response were addressed in 1929 at the second congress. The CPSU Central Committee delegated to the LMG full powers to launch a great antireligious attack with the objective of completely eliminating religion from the country, granting them the right to mobilize all public organizations.[17]

      In 1929, the Second Congress changed the society’s name to The Union of Belligerent (or Militant) Atheists.[13] At this Second Congress of Atheists, Nikolai Bukharin, the editor of Pravda, called for the extermination of religion “at the tip of the bayonet.”[18] There, Yaroslavsky also made the following declaration:

      It is our duty to destroy every religious world-concept… If the destruction of ten million human beings, as happened in the last war, should be necessary for the triumph of one definite class, then that must be done and it will be done.[19]

      • Lark62

        This wasn’t an insult, it was an observation. The fully debunked “communists used atheism, therefore all atheists are like communists” slur is irrelevant.

        How about addressing what I said. Please answer: If you sincerely believe that a human might be tortured for eternity, why would you bring a human into the world? That isn’t an insult. If you think conceiving a person who has a fair chance of eternal torture is morally acceptable, just explain why.

        • Glory

          All atheists aren’t like communists but enough are to be a cause for concern. Some are xenophobes. Some lack empathy like psychopaths.

          Where is your empathy for Jesus on the Cross?

          I don’t believe anyone will be tormented for all eternity.

          I believe God is saving each in His own order and atheists have bottomed themselves in God’s order. There are two resurrections.

          John the Baptist said “ Lo, this is the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world”.

          That is the world not believers only.

          Aion was mistranslated. It means age of the ages not eternity.

          You are letting your critical and unteachable spirit over rule your ability to research on this topic.

          I am in a tiny minority of Christians who believes God saves all but all the details are involved. Too involved for me to post.

          You wanted to argue. You did not want to be Berean and research the alternate explanations.

          Google and read “Do You Believe “All” in the Bible” on the Tentmaker site.

          Arguing is easy. But research is better because an argument is hot opinionated air without facts.

          • Lark62

            It sounds like you don’t believe in the hell as described by so many other christians, so my statement does not apply to you. “If a person believes in hell” – you don’t. All’s good.

            I have empathy for all humans tortured by other humans. But christians during the inquisition inflicted far worse than crucifixion for much longer periods of time on scores, hundreds or thousands of people. And the victims tortured and killed by christians did not poof back to life after a day and a half.

          • Glory

            Well some people think the popes were antichrists.

          • Glory

            Well I will block you now.

            I find it silly to consider the opinions of people who put God on trial publicly without learning His perspective first.

          • Lark62

            Tell me, am I blocked for having no problem with your view on hell or for having empathy?

            Convenient that you are blocking me before giving me the source of your slur about atheists being more likely to have “psychotic tendencies.”

            Cheers