“An Open Letter to Kate Kelly and Those Pressing for Ordination”


Typical Mormon women?


I very much like this essay by Maurine Proctor:




As I’ve said before, I am neither for nor against the ordination of women.  If the Lord reveals that women should be ordained, I’ll be happy.  If the Lord doesn’t reveal that women should be ordained, I’ll be happy.  Everything, for me, hinges upon whether the Church is in line with God’s will.  If I were to believe that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is merely led by uninspired humans, even by good ones using their best thinking with the best of intentions, I would have little or no interest in it — and even less interest in the question of women’s ordination in such a church.



  • brotheroflogan

    I hope that you will explore any scholarly sources on why a male only priesthood can be an equitable and beneficial social arrangement or how ordination of women could hurt the church. I really believe that many men would stop coming to church because they would have less incentive to. And not because they are power hungry and just want to be sexist. But because they would lose their meaningful role in the church.
    If women want men to be good, pro-social, church-going, family men, then they want their men to have something that incentivizes them to take on the duties inherent in those roles. The priesthood makes men feel needed and respected.
    That is not something they get in the world where we get doofus dads like Homer Simpson.

    Thanks for linking to this thoughtful article by Ms. Proctor!

  • Jennifer

    Before you post or publish a picture with a description you need to understand what that picture is of. Your picture is not of “Mormon” women (LDS) but it is of “Fundamentalist” women (FLDS). These are two distinct religions, not one in the same, and are very fundamentally different. Checking all of your facts could save you from this embarrassment in the future.

    • DanielPeterson


      Thanks for your concern. As it happens, I’m an actively Mormon man (a former bishop, a professor at BYU, a frequent writer on Mormon-related topics) and am married to an actively Mormon woman. I know what Mormon women look like and how they tend to dress, and I know the difference between LDS and FLDS.

      That was, in fact, something of the point. The media and certain critics sometimes seem to depict LDS women as if they were, in fact, FLDS women. But, of course, they’re not. (Accordingly, the answer to the question posed in the caption to that photograph is a resounding NO.)

      • G Rant

        Don’t you hate when satire falls flat?

  • RaymondSwenson

    The fact that Mormon men and boys tend to have much higher levels of participation in church than their counterparts in many other denominations is clearly related to the way the priesthood and callings get them involved and help them feel needed. Since the temple ordinances, especially eternal marriage, emphasize comparable blessings and authority between men and women, perhaps the current configuration of the priesthood will not be necessary when we reach a more godly nature, and are not so much in need of a superstructure that shows us how to be Christlike. The priesthood is adapted to even the weakest of the Saints (typically men), and helps to transform the imperfect man into a better man. Because the psychology of women is different (e.g. more drawn to religious involvement in most denominations) perhaps they don’t need the structure of priesthood in mortality to move toward righteousness. I am sure the Lord knows us better than we know ourselves, and has structured the Church accordingly.
    In some of the books I have been reading lately, I note that the loss of traditional religious involvement in setting social standards has not harmed people in higher income and education brackets, because they have the personal resources to choose beneficial behaviors. However, unmooring society from the anchors of traditional religious faith has left many less educated, less wealthy people adrift in seas of self-harming behavior: premarital sex, alcohol, drugs, lack of education, lack of ambition to work. The freedom demanded by the people with greater personal resources of intelligence and self-disciplinie has left the majority of people out in the cold without beacons to follow.

    I wonder if the LDS priesthood is a mechanism that helps the less spiritually adept achieve the same positive benefits that many, who are naturally more spiritually intelligent, can attain through their own personal gifts. Priesthood provides discipline in discipleship. That aspect may not be needed in the Celestial Kingdom, but it may be crucial here in the Telestial World.

    • brotheroflogan

      It is interesting that men and women are separate in the temple until after the veil. But I would be hesitant to suggest that all gender differences (including how God treats the genders) will be erased in the next life.