Voris responds: "There are many people in the Church who have it out for us…" — UPDATED

Michael Voris has posted a video and text which responds to the Catholic News Agency report about his company and one of his employees.

He explains what happened — and also addresses the controversy over the World Youth Day statement, which noted that he lacked official approval to appear at WYD in Madrid.

Toward the end of the video, he states:

If the goal is to intimidate or malign us .. then thank you for finally showing your fangs. At least now .. many others can see what we have seen for some time now.

We sincerely wish all these people .. and we are NOT talking about the Catholic News Agency .. who consider themselves our enemies .. who constantly blather on about charity and tolerance and dialog would follow their own advice.

If they have a problem with us .. and again .. we’re aren’t talking about the CNA .. they should confront us like a man .. not some sniveling school girls who resort to tattle tales and smear campaigns.

Click here for the whole thing.

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UPDATE: CNA has posted its account of the Voris response, and included its own explanation for one allegation that Voris raises – that CNA itself has not accurately reported its non-profit status:

The host of “The Vortex” noted that he did not count CNA among his purported “enemies.” He did, however, call attention to “various blogs which make the claim that Catholic News Agency or its affiliate is 4 years behind on its own filings,” one of which he cited in the video’s official transcript.

That claim, however, rests upon a misreading of state documents showing that CNA’s nonprofit group, in some cases, received notification that its annual reports were overdue. The same documents show that each year’s reports were later filed with the state in a matter of weeks or months.

  • HMS

    Hope this isn’t “déjà vu all over again”

  • cathyf

    Whether there are many or few or none in the Church who have it out for them, one thing to know for sure is that what Voris & Co are selling to paying customers is the belief that they are persecuted.

  • Marianna

    yes, these seem to be familiar words………..

  • Nick

    How is Christian obedience persecution?

  • Mary

    If they’re not doing anything wrong then they have nothing to worry about, even if people do have it out for them.

  • TM

    Gotta love Michael Voris. He is unflappable. I like listening to what he has to say, even if I dont always agree with the delivery.

  • Greg

    Voris is starting to sound like Fr. Corapi, it’s a conspiracy and everyone is out to get them!

  • jpelham

    Listen to Mr. Voris’s video response. He addresses the problems with his usual directness, with no sign of a Corapi elements, not defensive in the least and no more combative than he is ordinarily.

  • http://www.patheos.com/community/deaconsbench/2011/07/02/shock-kc-becomes-first-diocese-ever-sued-over-child-pornography/ Michael

    Michael Voris comes out with some very important things. I like him.

  • seekup

    One thing is true,
    Voris i defending himself righteously, while the cowards like CNA and all those other paint a picture as if Voris is doing this to make more money out of it. Those ‘people’ are so lost. And they must feel that way because they are threatened by Voris’ style of defense. He defends what is true. It seems the coward stricken individuals are the ones who turn to anger and madness when they hear Voris speak. I have always though tof Voris as clear and well spoken especially on the defenses of the faith. He is on top of things, and if anyone finds disagreement, or questions he is there defend his research as well as whatever the issues is.

    People are definitely jealous and hateful of a man who knows how to stand up for truth and in a bold way.

    Jealousy is so so ugly

  • Rudy

    Jealousy is probably one factor, but I rather think it has more to do with Voris’ view of the Church and how it rankles the feathers of those who do not like it. Those who talk about tolerance, diversity and charity are not very tolerant or charitable about the diversity brought by conservative orthodox believers.

    Surely the attacks will continue and Voris and his group have to keep their noses clean because the dirt digging will continue and if they find anything at all it will be used to destroy him.

  • http://www.gadel.info GADEL

    This is very interesting. I hope things would cool down sooner. God bless His Catholic Church. Amen.


    “Jesus is your friend. The Friend. With a human heart, like yours.
    With loving eyes that wept for Lazarus. And he loves you as much as he
    loved Lazarus.” Saint Josemaría Escrivá

  • Terry Carroll

    So everyone knows what a profoundly big deal it is to “fix” the paperwork oversight:

    http://www.legislature.mi.gov/%28S%28nqjhrhn2y0kcprnejceszu55%29%29/mileg.aspx?page=getObject&objectName=mcl-450-2925

    (1) A domestic corporation which has been dissolved pursuant to section 922(1), or a foreign corporation whose certificate of authority has been revoked pursuant to section 922(2) or section 1042, may renew its corporate existence or its certificate of authority by filing the reports for the last 5 years or any lesser number of years in which the reports were not filed and paying the annual filing fees for all the years for which they were not paid, together with a penalty of $5.00 for each delinquent report. Upon filing the reports and payment of the fees and penalties, the corporate existence or the certificate of authority is renewed. If during the intervening period the corporate name or a confusingly similar name has been assigned to another corporation, the administrator may require that the corporation adopt or use within this state a different name.

    (2) Upon compliance with the provisions of this section, the rights of the corporation shall be the same as though a dissolution or revocation had not taken place, and all contracts entered into and other rights acquired during the interval shall be valid and enforceable.

  • Penny

    God bless Michael Voris! He is ethical and he is doing important work, work that many, including our clergy and hierarchy, fail to do. He is telling the truth and the truth upsets many. He is not acting like a victim. The real victims are the girly-men, libs and progressives and dishonest people who hate what he says about Catholic doctrine. They hate the message so they aim to shoot messenger. They feel so victimized that someone calls them on that, that they in turn try to portray Voris as someone who is acting like a victim. Like victims themselves, they whine “he’s soooo mean, he’s too harsh, waaahhh, snivel,snivel, waaahh”. As a famous comedian says, “oh grow up”!

  • Dcn FAB

    It seems that there is something wrong with the fact that the first thing he has done is attack his accusers. We are called to humble service, would it not be more advantageous if instead coming out and claiming that there are elements out to get him, instead recognize that there are concerns with what he is doing and work with the powers to be to reconcile those concerns? This idea of trying to be a victim just doesn’t work.

  • Holly in Nebraska

    I have to say, that I never heard of this guy before he was being mentioned on blogs regarding WYD. All of the posts left me with the feeling that I didn’t need to bother about him. It still looks that way. I will file him away with Corapi. I have limited time. It is easy enough to find out what the Church teaches. Do I really need to waste it evaluating celebrities?
    God bless them both.

  • Patt

    Is it me or is his hair beginning to like like Donald Trump’s?

  • Halle

    Everyone berates Voris for his “delivery.” Including me.

    I wish he’d get a clue.

    Much of what he says has merit and should be considered. But as long as he acts like a jerk in his presentation, he comes off as a jerk, himself.

    Someday Voris & Co need to do a video addressing the radtrads and uber orthys that worship him. He needs to point out where those followers and fans are going wrong.

  • Rudy

    What is lamentable is the ugliness of some comments here.

  • BK

    Unbelievable. A man tries to clear his good name, and people have a problem with it. Michael can’t win with those who just hate to hear the Truth. Nothing he does, or doesn’t do, will ever satisfy those who want to prevent the Fullness of Faith being taught loudly and boldly, and for corruption and sin to be shown out in the bright light.

    Good for him for speaking out about this!! “Trying to be a victim”??? Are you kidding? There is nothing victim like about trying to protect yourself and right a horrific and malicious wrong.

    This has nothing to do with coloring within the lines and playing patty-cake with those who do nothing but sit and watch while the Church is ravaged by society and “Professional Catholics” (the Pope’s term, not mine) who don’t know the meaning of the name Catholic. This has everything to do with saving souls and cleaning up the Bride of Christ so she does indeed reflect what Christ left us through His Apostles.

    May God continue to bless Michael and his entire staff, and keep them strong to continue to fight the good fight.

  • Harold

    Is the truth of the gospels and the Tradition of the Church served by being mean-spirited, triumphalist and self-righteous? Michael Voris’ work is am embarrassment.

  • BK

    It is served by fighting for the Truth in the face of those who push, promote, and endorse abortion, same sex “marriage”, and other sinful activity from WITHIN the Church.

    Not on my watch. I’ll stand by MV and those like him who are sticking their necks out, and are not afraid to do it, to expose corruption and sin when it touches the Bride of Christ.

    Sitting idly by and letting it happen. Now that is truly evil.

  • Ruben Aguilar

    Truth can set us all free, however to those that don’t want to hear it or are apposed to it, it can sound like it is being mean spirited, triumphalist and self-righteous. I wan’t around but I bet similar words were used to discribe Saint John the Baptist. I cannot see into Mr Voris’s heart as I can’t any of the posters on this blog, but he gives me the impression that he loves God and the Catholic Church, and he loves her enough to speak up and defend her against her enemies within and without even if it means sticking his neck out. Of everything that I have heard him say, I can’t say that I disagreed with him. I might have put it a different way, but he tells the truth as he knows it. He doesn’t do it anonymously he does it completely in the open. I like him!

  • naturgesetz

    I don’t need Michael Voris for the Truth. I don’t need anybody who is more Catholic than the Pope. The Church does not need people who are inclined to tear it apart by setting the flock against their shepherds.

    If people who are anxious to know the Truth would study the Catechism, and the documents of Vatican II, instead of relying on TV personalities to give their spin on the parts that interest said personalities, maybe we’d all be built up into the community God wants. And if people who take the “trouble” to learn the whole truth for themselves see areas where their own bishops could serve the flock better, they can and should respectfully present their views.

  • Irish Spectre

    There are some shepherds out there, sadly, whose flocks would be very well served to be separated from them. About their type, in fact, St. John Chrysostom said, “The floor of hell is paved with the skulls of bishops.” I guess he wasn’t very nice, either, but at least Mr. Voris is in good company!

    Would you kindly tell us, naturgesetz, which parts of the Catechism Michael Voris willfully fails to acknowledge??

  • Clement

    CNA is the Catholic version of the liberal secular media, such as CNN, NYT, WashPost, et al. There is nothing traditionally Catholic about them and there is no conservative and traditional reporting coming out of their presses. Don’t crucify those you disagree with. It is not Catholic.

  • Greg

    Voris does nothing to improve the Church. He only creates division among Catholics, it would be best for the Catholic Church if he just went away quietly.

  • Milites Domini

    J+M+J
    God bless Michael Voris. May God keep him safe. We need MANY, MANY more Michael Vorises…

    Greg writes: “Voris does nothing to improve the Church. He only creates division among Catholics, it would be best for the Catholic Church if he just went away quietly.” You wish he’d disappear! Nope, not a chance. Michael is on the very right track. Did you know he is a very well educated theologian? No, probably not. Many write and speak as if they were, but are very far from it.

    Are you so blind? Divisions? Boy, you are so clueless and lost. We will be praying for you. Listen, Greg, if Michael’s fine work divides the hypocrites from the true Catholics, wonderful! Taking the weeds out is always a good thing.

    There are so many confused Catholics. Many don’t even have the basic principles of Catholicism. They will be held accountable for so many lost souls. Pray for them.

    Get with it, Greg. Use your God-given brain and see what is happening to the “modernist” Church. There is a reason why your average diocesan seminaries are dying out. On the other hand, Traditional Catholic seminaries and Traditional Catholic religious orders are booming. There’s a reason for this. They are authentic and they strictly adhere to the Teachings of the Church, only 2,000 years worth… The tides are changing, and orthodox, i.e., traditional, Catholicism will reign once again in the House of our Lord for His glory.

    [Edited to remove reference to another blogger. Don't use the combox for gratuitous and personal attacks, please -- especially when the person isn't here to defend himself. Dcn. G.]

  • Ann

    If CNS has listened to and published anonymous tipsters, or columnists criticizing Michael Voris, he is right. This is not fostering the Catholic way of face -to-face fraternal correction and he is right there are people out to discredit him. Heck, local newspapers everywhere call the writers of letters to the editor, check their ID;s and publish their names. Since when should Catholics have a lower standard of responsibility.

  • GEORGE KADLEC

    Let’s see:

    1) The CNA article appears while Voris is out of town.

    2) He has failed to file some forms with the state about his being a 501(c)(3) implying that he is deceiving you into making a deduction that is not allowable by law. Note: the state has nothing to do with determing whether you a3re qualify for a deduction on your return – The Federal government does.

    3) He has an employee who has erred – how does this reflect on Voris if he didn’t know about it.

    4) He was never challenged for what he says – could that be because he cannot be challenged because he is orthodox ?

    An excerpt from an address by Archbishop Fulton Sheen to the Supreme Convention of the Knights of Columbus in June 1972,

    “Who is going to save our Church? Not our bishops, not our priests and religious. It is up to you, the people. You have the minds, the eyes, and the ears to save the Church. Your mission is to see that your priests act like priests, your bishops act like bishops, and your religious act like religious.”

    St. Athanasius is the first recognized Doctor of the Church and has the title “Father of Orthodoxy.” The following quote has been attributed to him “The floor of hell is paved with the skulls of Bishops.”

    I believe it is time for the Bishops of this country to clean up their own organization.

  • William Conti

    I go to the Vatican web site and the Catechism when I want to know the truth. I do not read Catholic blogs or do I listen to anybody who disagrees with the Vatican when it comes to faith and morals.

  • Concerned Catholic

    Now that M. Voris is taking positive action on these issues will CNA, CNS and other Catholic news outlets now please move the spotlight on to U.S. Catholic Bishops? The RC Bishops in America have paid out $1.2 billion (of hard-earned money donated by the laity) in settlements to victims of RC priest sex abuse and at least 6 Diocese and 2 Archdiocese filed for bankruptcy as a result. Homoeroticism, transgenderism, greed, and corruption have spread like plagues in the Church and across our nation and who can deny that a majority of Americans are devoid of a sense of sin? Catholic politicians in America mislead the public by misrepresenting the Faith in word and deed on a regular basis. Only a tiny fraction of Catholics participate in weekly Mass and monthly Reconciliation–check the data for yourselves! Due to an unresponsive RC Hierarchy, the laity, prompted by a love of Jesus and concern for the Church, exposed a corrupt “homosexual superculture” among priests in the Archdiocese of Miami, a “gay” culture that’s growing among clergy that receives support from members of the hierarchy as well as from those directly involved in the training of priests, as well as Church sponsored “gay” masses throughout the nation–we are talking about “chosen” and consecrated souls handpicked by Jesus to be His shepherds on earth! How is this possible? The RC Faith is being passed on to younger generations in fewer and fewer numbers. Disturbing trends in parishes are on the rise with many becoming increasingly unbalanced: Majorities of elderly filling pews but only small fractions of youth participating in masses. When the dwindling number of priests, religious, and laity of new generations are taught the catechism they are increasingly receiving a weak and distorted version of the RC Faith. Consequently, the lack of reverence during Mass and dwindling mass attendance is so deeply rooted and widespread it is the norm now and no longer the exception. Catholics are supporting and/or practicing greed, violence, materialism, secularism, contraception, abortion, stem cell research, and disordered sex practices at unprecedented levels–check out the data from several reputable research institutes for yourselves!

    Yet, most of our RC Bishops remain silent and unresponsive during a time when their bold leadership is needed the most. Catholic news sources would you now please put the spotlight on RC Bishops so that they will be prompted to take positive action too. Hopefully RC Bishops turn away from silence, inaction or even blatant coverups and start to follow Voris’ example and respond to very unpleasant revelations of infidelity within the Church by thoroughly investigating turpitude, addressing these matters publicly, and taking corrective action. Jesus Christ calls the Church Militant to be bold defenders of the faith in thought, word, deed and prayer. Jesus called RC Bishops to be fearless generals on the battlefield leading us in spiritual warfare against “evil rulers and authorities of the unseen world, against mighty powers in this dark world, and against evil spirits in the heavenly places.” Each and every RC Bishop must live up to that calling and for those unable the Pope needs to replace them by Bishops who will. Preventing the loss of souls to satan and hell demands nothing less.

  • http://laudemgloriae.blogspot.com Christine

    If Holly, Halle, Nat, and others here are examples of fine Christian charity (calling Voris a “jerk”, “filing him away with Corapi” for no reason but their personal dislike), then I must wonder about their understanding of charity.

    And Mr. Conti–Where precisely does Voris disagree with the Magisterium on matters of faith and morals? Throwing around such claims amounts to slander if you cannot substantiate them. And I can already tell you: you can’t, because your claim is false.

  • Ryan

    Michael Voris and RealCatholicTV are a blessing to the Faith and are in line with the Magisterium of the Church. I appreciate their efforts spreading the Faith encouraging others to learn their Faith.
    God Bless

  • Joe

    “Someday Voris & Co need to do a video addressing the radtrads and uber orthys that worship him. He needs to point out where those followers and fans are going wrong.”

    Trads are not Voris fans. Until he comes out fully against the Novus Ordo – they won’t be. Read AngelQueen Forum. They see him as a joke.

  • Toni, Akron, Ohio

    Michael Voris for president !!!

    I’m glad this issue is ‘out there’. Now I know who I WILL listen to and from what source I will get my print.

    Michael Voris does more catechizing in one YouTube clip then 6mos worth of Sunday homilies’s from my parish.

    And if CNS is going the way they’re going with Michael Voris then I’m done with them being a source of Catholic news (for me).

  • http://laudemgloriae.blogspot.com Christine

    “Trads are not Voris fans.”

    I think you mean “RadTrads.” I’m a traditionalist, and fully recognize the intrinsic worth of the Ordinary Form, as every traditionalist should, since it is a rite approved by the Magisterium. It may be more susceptible of liturgical abuse than the Extraordinary Form, its chief architect Abp. Bugnini is a suspect character (I speak kindly), and its Cranmerian removal of any mention of “oblation” or “sacrifice” is troubling–but that doesn’t change its validity.

  • Dee

    Concerned Catholic:
    You are so right!
    You wrote: “Disturbing trends in parishes are on the rise with many becoming increasingly unbalanced: Majorities of elderly filling pews but only small fractions of youth participating in masses”. This is true and as adults, specifically adults of European heritage, leave the pews and take their financial support with them, the bishops are sticking their noses in the the illegal immigration battle. They are pleading with us to ‘pray for the undocumented worker and for the passing of the Dream Act”. On September 25th, the bishops will introduce this topic in a homily: http://www.hispanicallyspeakingnews.com/notitas-de-noticias/details/u.s.-conference-of-bishops-urge-priests-to-pray-preach-about-dream-act/9763/
    No wonder the pews are emptying. I guess the bishops hope to fill them up again with the new flock of poorly understood and appreciated “undocumented” workers.

    Something tells me this post will be deleted.

  • Tom

    “I don’t need Michael Voris for the Truth. I don’t need anybody who is more Catholic than the Pope. The Church does not need people who are inclined to tear it apart by setting the flock against their shepherds.

    If people who are anxious to know the Truth would study the Catechism, and the documents of Vatican II, instead of relying on TV personalities to give their spin on the parts that interest said personalities, maybe we’d all be built up into the community God wants. And if people who take the “trouble” to learn the whole truth for themselves see areas where their own bishops could serve the flock better, they can and should respectfully present their views.”

    First I will say I think Voris handled the situation very well. Second, I will respond to the above quote: Voris is not inclined to set the Church apart from the “shepherds” he states the facts and sometimes the truth hurts, some shepherds are doing a bad job.
    Next, since most people find teachers helpful when learning, there is nothing wrong with someone trying to present the faith (I guess Bp. Sheen and Mother Angelica should be ignored too), I don’t know why you are so against Voris trying to teach. But I have to add, while your reading the Catechism and Vatican II docs, why don’t you check out some Papal bulls from the middle ages perhaps or the Cannons from Trent, the syllabus of errors is also a good one.

  • HMS

    naturgesetz:

    “If people who are anxious to know the Truth would study the Catechism, and the documents of Vatican II, instead of relying on TV personalities to give their spin on the parts that interest said personalities, maybe we’d all be built up into the community God wants.”

    I agree. It is not that hard to read these documents with appropriate guidance and study guides.

    Tom:
    Sorry but Michael Voris is no Bishop Sheen.

  • Tom

    HMS, not saying he is, just saying that knowing the truth through teachers is obviously not bad, which teacher is a matter of personal preference. But why only Vatican II? There are 20 other ecumenical councils before then? There is a rich nineteen+ centuries of Fathers, Doctors, Popes, Bishops, theologians, Cardinals, etc.


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