D’Souza: Gay Rights are Anti-Colonialist. Or Something.

From our buddy Dinesh D’Souza, who took part in a conference call for Rick Scarborough’s 40 Days to Save America, his semi-annual crusade to get people to send money. He delivered his usual bullshit about Obama’s alleged anti-colonialist views (as though that would be a bad thing), with a new twist: Obama is in favor of equal rights for gays because of that anti-colonialism:

Why is Obama on the social issues — and I’m thinking here of abortion, I’m thinking here of gay marriage — why is Obama so aggressive in attacking the traditional values agenda? I think the reason for it is because when Obama thinks about colonialism, about the British and the French who went abroad to conquer other countries, or earlier the Spanish and the Portuguese, I come from a part of India that was a Portuguese colony at one time, I think for Obama colonialism is identified not just with the soldiers but also with the missionaries. Remember it’s the missionaries that went alongside the conquerors, the conquistadors, came to the Americas and worked on converting the Indians and later missionaries went to China, India and Japan. So I think this is the problem, Obama doesn’t like traditional Christianity because he identifies it with colonialism. Obama’s own Christianity is more of a Third World liberation theology, a very different kind of Jeremiah Wright type philosophy, summarized in the idea that America is the rogue nation in the world.

And then this:

Ultimately there’s a political divide in this country but underneath that is a moral divide, and underneath that is a spiritual divide. I think that the deepest problems facing America and the West in the end are not political, they are spiritual. This is why it makes sense even as we debate policy issues, even as we debate moral issues, to turn to the maker of the universe, this maker of the universe that isn’t just an absentee God like Obama’s dad, a kind of absentee father who got things going and then took off but a God who cares about each one of us and certainly about our country.

Yes, God cares about each one of us. Except gay people; they’re icky. And those people killed when America goes to war. To hell with them (literally, since they’re usually non-Christians).

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  • Chiroptera

    …America is the rogue nation in the world.

    I don’t know whether Obama actually believes this (probably not, since he is the one leading the nation), but the US is pretty much a rogue nation.

    I mean, the foreign policies of both parties can’t really be described as anything other than, “let’s be a rogue nation!”

  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    Well, we know one thing about d’Sozzled: his response to the exposure of his personal hypocricy — and his former employer’s institutional hypocricy — is to keep talking, just like any other con-artist or phony prophet. And it will probably work.

    I think that the deepest problems facing America and the West in the end are not political, they are spiritual.

    Which makes it all the more important to listen to people who actually try to obey the teachings of our best spiritual leaders. D’Sozzled, sadly, is not in that class; which makes him part of the problem, not part of any solution.

  • steve84

    Apparently god doesn’t care about his adultery

  • had3

    So if colonialism were just about the soldiers invading and occupying foreign lands, it would be a good thing? What is his point, other than to mix up a fine batch of word-salad?

  • roggg

    I have to wonder if he believes any of his bullshit, or if he’s just having a laugh.

  • machintelligence

    It might be something more like “We are the world’s policeman (not that we want the job.) But someone has to do it and nobody likes a cop.”

  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    Obama is in favor of equal rights for gays because of that anti-colonialism…

    Well, yeah, it was the anti-colonialists who wrote those basic principles of equal rights into the basic laws of the country they created. If d’Sozzled thinks that’s a bad thing, why is he living in a country founded by anti-colonialists?

    What a stupid tool.

  • dingojack

    So Dinesh what does your beloved bible say should be the fit punishment for adultery then (since this is the standard you claim to live up to):

    Leviticus 20:10.

    You’d be perfectly OK with that, right Dinesh?

    Dingo

  • http://peopleofpublictransport.wordpress.com Zinc Avenger (Sarcasm Tags 3.0 Compliant)

    Chiroptera, #1:

    I mean, the foreign policies of both parties can’t really be described as anything other than, “let’s be a rogue nation!”

    Well, one is “Lets be a rogue nation!”, the other is “How much of a rogue nation is it possible to be? Lets find out!”.

  • Ben P

    If I can be off topic and completely inappropriate for a moment. Buzzfeed had a bit about D’Souza’s “fiance,” with a picture of her.

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/rosiegray/other-woman-in-dinesh-dsouza-affair-is-a-dsouza

    The inappropriate part is that my first thought was “wow she’s awkwardly skinny.”

    Beyond that, the context of the story seems to imply that Dinesh D’Souza found the one and only Dinesh D’Souza groupie.

  • matty1

    later missionaries went to China, India and Japan.

    So how’d that work out for you?

  • eric

    This is why it makes sense even as we debate policy issues, even as we debate moral issues, to turn to the maker of the universe, this maker of the universe that isn’t just an absentee God like Obama’s dad…

    It almost sounds like he’s rationalizing to himself. ‘We have to turn to God…who, um, is NOT absent! Not! Even though he let all the stuff I just complained about happen, THIS TIME our prayers will be answered, so you should definitely pray.’

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=523300770 stuartsmith

    God certainly isn’t like an absentee father. He’s far worse – he’s a father who posts a set of rules on the fridge, puts cameras all over the house, and then leaves the kids to raise themselves while he remotely monitors them. A couple of decades later, when they leave home, if they didn’t follow his rules then he drags them off the street and brutally tortures them to death.

  • Stevarious, Public Health Problem

    So if colonialism were just about the soldiers invading and occupying foreign lands, it would be a good thing? What is his point, other than to mix up a fine batch of word-salad?

    The REAL point is that, since the colonialists also brought missionaries, who converted the conquered people to xtianity, that it was a good thing.

    Do you recall, perhaps, the debate between Dinesh and Christopher Hitchens? Where they talk about the reason Dinesh is a christian?

    “Daddy, everyone around here seems to be Hindu, with quite a few Muslims. Why are we Christians?” And his father said, “Because, Dinesh, my lad, the Portuguese inquisition got to this part of India first,”

    Dinesh doesn’t actually think there’s anything wrong with colonialism, if the colonists bring christianity with them and force it on the natives. He sees this as a GOOD thing. That’s why it’s such a problem for him that Obama is (apparently?) against it. You can see him projecting quite clearly there in the paragraph Ed quoted – Dinesh thinks that Obama identifies traditional christianity with colonialism, because Dinesh himself identifies traditional christianity with colonialism. He has to, or else, why is anti-colonialism bad?

  • steve oberski

    @stuartsmith

    It’s even worse than that.

    Someone else made up those notes and then claimed that they are from god.

    And even though you can’t actually see those cameras, they are really, really there and by the way you are going to burn in hell for having the temerity to question their existence.

  • http://aceofsevens.wordpress.com Ace of Sevens

    Yet, if you listen to groups like the AFA, trying to get African nations like Uganda to respect gay rights is colonialism, and therefore bad.

  • Captain Mike

    Obama’s own Christianity …

    This is a step up from most wingnuts, most of whom still seem to think he’s Muslim.

  • greg1466

    I’m surprised to hear him talking about “Obama’s own Christianity”. My mother-in-law was just raving on Sunday about “2016: Obama’s America” and how it made it so clear that Obama is completely a Muslim and that he doesn’t even believe in God (yeah, I know). Oh, and did you know that he has a brother and an aunt living in poverty and he refuses to do anything to help them?

  • sivivolk

    @Raging Bee

    Once again, I’ll point out America was founded by colonialists, not anti-colonialists.

    It’s weird that D’Souza gives a pretty accurate description of colonialism in the first part, but then seems somehow to think that it was a good thing.

  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    I have to wonder if he believes any of his bullshit, or if he’s just having a laugh.

    I’m sure he laughs every time he gets a paycheck.

  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    sivivolk: the COLONIES were founded by colonialists. They were made into a nation by anti-colonialists.

  • http://polrant@blogspot.com democommie

    ““Daddy, everyone around here seems to be Hindu, with quite a few Muslims. Why are we Christians?” And his father said, “Because, Dinesh, my lad, the Portuguese inquisition got to this part of India first–and your great grand-daddy was just as much of a soulless opportunist as you are. He knew that it was better to live under the papal boot than die under the papal sword.”

    There, D’umbfuck, fixed it for ya.

  • thalwen

    Since when did “anti-colonialist” become a pejorative? What’s next? Are they going to accuse Obama of being steeped in abolitionist philosophies?

  • http://timgueguen.blogspot.com timgueguen

    D’Souza should know his Catholic history better. Catholic missionaries first arrived in Japan in 1549, so their work predated most evangelism in what became the US. There were eventually hundreds of thousands of Christians in Japan, but the religion was brutally suppressed in the early 17th Century when the Tokugawa Shogunate decided it was a threat.

  • http://www.facebook.com/ricardo.gladwell ricardogladwell

    As a European, I’m super-confused as to why being “anti-colonialist” in ex-British colony that fought a long, bloody war for independence, is considered a bad thing?

  • extian

    Ok, I’m still confused. Can someone explain to me what gay rights have to do with colonialism?

  • baal

    An “anti-colonialist” is a bad thing since it’s usually tied to nationalistic attitudes.* That said, it’s perfectly rational to have substantial annoyance that your country was ruled from without and that all your roads and rail tracks are set to extract your natural resources (among other issues).

    *not that D’Souza would have this problem. His view seems to be more of a “Wah! they don’t love the US and Christians! (same thing to him)”

  • bmiller

    sivivolk: the COLONIES were founded by colonialists. They were made into a nation by anti-colonialists.

    Somewhat. The people leading the effort were largely pissed off that the crown raised their taxes and, more importantly, interfered with the ability to expropriate land from the Indians.

  • raven

    As a European, I’m super-confused as to why being “anti-colonialist” in ex-British colony that fought a long, bloody war for independence, is considered a bad thing?

    It’s a mystery.

    To make it more confusing, D’Souza was born in Bombay, India.

    India not so long ago managed to gain it’s independence from the British and Gandhi and Nehru are national heroes.

    Most likely D’Souza just hates Obama and Kenyan born, Moslem terrorist was already taken.

  • http://aceofsevens.wordpress.com Ace of Sevens

    @29: D’Souza’s family collaborated and did pretty well under British rule.

  • sivivolk

    How hard is this?

    Americans colonized North America, taking the land from its former inhabitants by force.

    How the fuck is that not colonization? The worst of it happened after independence, too, so it’s not like you can claim it was the sole fault of the British for coming here first. If the Americans were anti-colonial, they would have halted their colonization.

    Hint: they didn’t.

  • matty1

    It could be argued that the D’Souza family lost prestige when the Indian army took the Portuguese colony of Goa. They went from being part of an elite who shared the Catholic religion of their colonial rulers to just another minority in a religiously diverse nation. That would give Dinesh a motive for supporting colonialism.

    Or he just hates Obama and is picking up words he thinks sound like insults pretty much at random.

  • busterggi

    Proof that no transgression or hypocrisy to too much to be dropped from the Religious Reich.

  • raven

    Or he just hates Obama and is picking up words he thinks sound like insults pretty much at random.

    That is probably it.

    Kenyan born, Moslem terrorist was taken. So was commie Socialist. Democrat. Black man. And educated thinker.

    You would think D’Souza’s audience of wingnuts would notice that the USA is a former colony that fought an anti-colonial war for independence. We do celebrate that as a holiday. Cthulhu knows what they think the Fourth of July is. A religious holiday probably.

  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    What’s next? Are they going to accuse Obama of being steeped in abolitionist philosophies?

    Given that at least one Republican has said slavery wasn’t as bad as those Negro malcontents said it was, I’d say the answer is “yes.”

  • Chiroptera

    extian, #26: Can someone explain to me what gay rights have to do with colonialism?

    I could be wrong, but I bet D’Souza saw “colon” and said, “Ha ha, anal sex.” Then he immediately thought, “ew, gays.”

    That’s pretty much the way those clowns think.

  • ehmm

    I love it. Obama isn’t in favor of gay or reproductive rights because maybe its its a principled position; it’s because he has a hatred of colonial rule, which by some process of osmosis he maps it on to Christianity.

    How is it possible that this ingnorant tool debated Hitchens (more than once) and Dennett? Really? Has no one told him how completely full of shit his attempt at psychoanalysis sounds?

    Whenever D’Souza starts a sentence with some variant of the phrase “I think”, get your goggles on Radioactive Man, because a tsunami of toxic bullshit is headed your way.

  • martinc

    Given that many people in the Western world are not bothering to get married, it’s good to see that Mr. D’Souza has the courage of his convictions and is doing his best to statistically offset those non-marriers by getting married as often as possible.

  • Pyra

    Oh boy, more mind-reading from people who don’t know Obama.