Lively Endorses Life Imprisonment for Gay People

December 17, 2012 by 11 Comments

There are reports out of Uganda that say the infamous “kill the gays” bill has been amended so that it “only” contains provisions for life imprisonment for gay people (and possibly their allies). Fanatical bigot Scott Lively thinks that’s just a lovely idea because — shocker! — the Bible say so:

First, the Bible has always defined homosexuality as a crime, and not just in the Mosaic Law. Homosexuality was condemned by God long before Moses declared it a capital crime (by God’s own instruction), and God‘s condemnation of it was reaffirmed repeatedly in the New Testament. Preceding Moses there is the account of Sodom and Gomorrah in Genesis 19, and a somewhat similar account in Judges 19. According to Rabbinic tradition even the Great Flood of Noah in Genesis 6-9 was precipitated by homosexual sin. In the New Testament, Chapter 1 of Romans not only condemns homosexuality as “depraved,” but reaffirms the death penalty for it as well (Verses 18-32)…

Just because Secular Humanist America began to decriminalize sexual sins in civilian law starting in the early 1960s doesn’t mean criminal sanctions against homosexuality are “un-Christian.” Indeed, given the enormous damage to our culture from the so-called sexual revolution, it was obviously a big mistake for us to have done this. Knowing what we know now it is arguably more “un-Christian” to support the status quo than to support a return to the legal framework of the 1940s and 50s regarding sexual misbehavior.

I don’t give a flying fuck whether it’s “un-Christian.” It’s inhuman and barbaric. He does say he thinks the bill is “too harsh” but still endorses the bill because the Bible says so and because people can just stop being gay if they don’t like it. I’m sure that’s great comfort to the victims who will have their lives destroyed because these bigots believe in a malignant God who tells them to hate and kill.

Filed Under: Equality, Religious Barbarism 11 Comments

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  • dan4

    The “punchline” to Lively’s posting: the link above it (to a previous Lively post) is “The Death of Human Rights.”

  • http://timgueguen.blogspot.com timgueguen

    I guess Lively won’t complain if we criminalise Christianity. After all he can stop being a Christian if he finds it too hard.

  • Artor

    Is it even true that the bill has been watered down? I’d read somewhere else recently that the “kill ’em all” language was removed, but the bill instead refers to another section of the Ugandan penal code that says, essentially, “kill ’em all.” Has this changed again?

  • Abdul Alhazred

    … According to Rabbinic tradition even the Great Flood of Noah in Genesis 6-9 was precipitated by homosexual sin …

    Not that Rabbinic tradition is gay friendly at all, but this bit is just plain made up shit.

  • http://www.gregory-gadow.net Gregory in Seattle

    @Artor #3 – That is what I’ve heard, that the explicit language has been replaced with a reference to another law that allows for the death penalty.

  • tsig

    If Christians listened to Rabbinic tradition they’d still be Jews.

  • http://www.facebook.com/den.wilson d.c.wilson

    As long as we’re invoking Mosaic law, are we also going to adopt thee death penalty for working on Saturday and tattooing?

  • naturalcynic

    If Christians listened to Rabbinic tradition they’d still be Jews.

    Another side of being a cafeteria Christian. You only have to follow the 620-odd commandments of Mosaic Law that you want to.

  • John Hinkle

    Indeed, given the enormous damage to our culture from the so-called sexual revolution…

    Sounds like someone didn’t get laid during the ’60s and ’70s. Hell maybe the ’80s too. Ever?

  • davidhart

    So, remember how much well-deserved ridicule was directed at Rick Santorum with the re-definition of ‘santorum’?

    ‘Lively’ is already semantically pretty close to what ‘gay’ used to mean. I wonder if some members of the lively community might be up for a temporary re-branding? 😉

  • martinc

    I’m curious about Lively’s statement about homosexuality: “God’s condemnation of it was reaffirmed repeatedly in the New Testament” which he then follows up with a bunch of anti-homosexual passages from the Old Testament, before finally mentioning one from Romans, which is New Testament. I have a sneaking suspicion that he is well aware of – and sidling away from – the fact that the anti-homosexual New Testament references are all in Acts of the Apostles etc. instead of the gospels … I’m not aware of Jesus in the four canonical gospels having a single word to say against homosexuality, which from a ranting bigot’s perspective, must seem a rather puzzling omission.


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