Staver, Barber: Gays Buying Children Like Pets

Mat Staver and Matt Barber of Liberty Counsel oppose allowing gay couples or individuals to adopt children and they make the absolutely reprehensible claim that gays are “purchasing children” like “having little pets.” Because that’s totally different than when straight parents who can’t have children adopt. Has it occurred to them that the tens of thousands of children adopted by gay parents, a large percentage of whom are at-risk children, were often abandoned by straight parents? This is just such a vile insult aimed at tens of thousands of people that they don’t know and never will, people who have dedicated their lives to raising children they’ve adopted. But to Staver and Barber, they aren’t even human. They’re just an evil abstraction that they can accuse without evidence. Assholes.

httpv://youtu.be/S0n000qVS_A?t=9m7s

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  • matty1

    Got it in one, they don’t see people they see The Homosexual Lobby*, this is why people actually getting to know gay people reduces the influence of these clowns.

    *Which has a fabulous carpet.

  • Mr Ed

    I see his mistake, he is confusing the playscape at the mall with a retail store.

    The sad part isn’t that they would say something this wrong – it is just too common- but that there is an audience eating it up.

  • http://quodlibet-sarah.blogspot.com/ Quodlibet

    Both adoptive parents and biological parents can be wonderful, or terrible. Only the terrible ones make it into the news. And if the terrible couple happens to be gay, it’s sensational news.

    There is a very sad case in CT right now of a gay (male) couple accused of abusing their adopted sons; this has brought out all the worst incorrect sterotypes that gay men are pedophiles. Some adults are pedophiles, and some parents abuse their children. It is not limited to gay (such as these) or straight (such as Sandusky or countless others). Some people are just bad people.

    (Trigger warnings for disturbing details of sexual abuse)

    http://articles.courant.com/2013-04-05/community/hc-glastonbury-harasz-wirth-sentencing-0406-20130405_1_george-harasz-dcf-douglas-wirth

    The above-linked article does not identify the men as partners, but this one does:

    http://articles.courant.com/2011-12-15/news/hc-glastonbury-abuse-1216-20111215_1_sexual-assault-arrest-warrants-sexual-abuse

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    Despite this, some of the most loving parents I know, gay or straight, are adoptive parents – another example of “love makes a family.”

  • otrame

    I have no trouble believing that some gay parents more or less get kids they way you get a pet. After all, there are a HELL of a lot of adoptive hetero parents who approach adoption with that attitude. Trust me, not all adoptive parents (of what ever gender and sexual preference ) are the perfect embodiment of stereotypical noble adoptive parents—what with them being human and all.

    As for Staver and Barber, fuck them both, sideways. Ugly hateful evil men. Any kid would be better off being a “pet” than being raised by either of them.

  • matty1

    To add to #4, there are of course a lot of biological parents who are bad parents, some of whom wouldn’t even pass screening to be adopters. To exclude a whole population as potential adoptive parents we need a much better standard than ‘some of them might not be good parents’.

  • laurentweppe

    Usually bigots know better and keep this kind of vile lies behind closed doors, where they can’t backfire.

  • dean

    Interesting the word ‘purchasing’ shows up. More of the ‘children are property’ philosophy?

  • http://www.facebook.com/den.wilson d.c.wilson

    Usually bigots know better and keep this kind of vile lies behind closed doors, where they can’t backfire.

    The was before the Evil Kenyan Usurper started occupying their White House. The more they see white male Christian privilege slip away from them, the more they have been abandoning the use of code words.

  • Jackie, Ms. Paper if ya nasty

    Trust me, not all adoptive parents (of what ever gender and sexual preference ) are the perfect embodiment of stereotypical noble adoptive parents—what with them being human and all.

    *burps*

    *scratches*

    *looks down at jammies and back at the screen*

    *snickers at “noble”*

    Our adoption is final on Wed.

  • Jackie, Ms. Paper if ya nasty

    That was supposed to be blockquoted. Sorry.

  • http://thebronzeblog.wordpress.com/ Bronze Dog

    On top of the obvious bigotry, I get the vibe that wingnuts hate adoption in general.

  • greg1466

    Ironically, as a straight adoptive parent, I distinctly remember needing to overcome the feeling that I was ‘buying’ a child.

  • greg1466

    I would agree with Quodlibet’s last comment, and not just because I’m an adoptive parent. While celebrities and extremely wealthy people may have a different experience, for most people the adoption process is very long and extremely emotionally and financially draining. While they may or may not be ‘better’ parents, I think on average they appriciate their kids more than natural parents, simply because of what they had to go through to get them. I know I never once complained about late night feedings, messy diapers, etc.

  • magistramarla

    When I finally met my biological father, I found out that my mother and her husband (I grew up thinking that the man was my grandfather – weird shit) lost a foster child and were denied being able to adopt because they had so many domestic instances involving the police. My mother solved it by having an affair, so I was born.

    My cousin told me that she commented “They can’t take this one away from me!”. I was emotionally and sometimes physically abused until I eloped with my husband nearly thirty six years ago. I managed to beat the odds.

    I’ve known several gay and lesbian couples who were great parents. I would have much rather grown up in such a family than the life that I had as a child.

  • http://itsmyworldcanthasnotyours.blogspot.com WMDKitty — Survivor

    dean

    Interesting the word ‘purchasing’ shows up. More of the ‘children are property’ philosophy?

    Coonsidering the current Evangelical push to adopt, and considering that this adoption “boom” has literally resulted in children being bought from less-than-reputable “adoption agencies in countries with little to no regulation…

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=730511544 billdaniels

    There is a chain of stores in the Los Angeles area called “Out of the Closet”. They sell used merchandise and the profits go to AIDS organizations. I was browsing through their “Used Children” section the other day. Quite a few bargains to be had.

  • dan4

    Well, at least they don’t go the EugeneDelguadio-esque route of suggesting (even in an implicit fashion) that gay couples only adopt children in order to have intercourse with them…so that’s something (*rolls eyes*).

  • dingojack

    OT – I wounder what kind of moron knight has Matt Staver as his esquire? Does Matty ride on after him precariously perched on his (overburdened) burro?

    Enquiring minds need to know!

    Dingo

  • http://polrant@blogspot.com democommie

    “OT – I wounder what kind of moron knight has Matt Staver as his esquire? Does Matty ride on after him precariously perched on his (overburdened) burro?”

    Sorry, mate;

    Sancho Panza rode an ass, Staver (and Barber) IS an ass (at least in part).