Glatze: Homosexuality Rapes God. Or Something.

Michael Glatze is an “ex-gay” — that is, a gay man pretending really hard not to be gay — has a column at the Worldnutdaily that is just a string of bizarre statements. For instance, he claims that being gay is all about making yourself into God.

Thus, since God is male and His creation – man – is male, the appropriate relationship (under the Headship of Christ) is to be satisfied in spiritual union with God. That is why Paul, in 1 Corinthians 6, says we have “become one spirit” with God. And, it is also why Paul describes, in Romans 1, the pattern of degradation that takes place when men turn from God. Ultimately, it results in homosexuality, because the man – seeking for a spiritual fellowship with God – positions himself either as a “god” for another man, or in the position of worshiping another man as “god.”

That is the deification of man spoken of clearly in Plato’s “Symposium,” in which a dialogue among seemingly learned men arrives at the conclusion that homosexuality is the highest form of love. No, it is not just an alternative to heterosexuality; it is something else, entirely.

In fact, during biblical times, the vast majority of Rome’s emperors had homosexual relationships with men, all while also “using” women as procreative slaves, to be sure. In a culture of emperor worship, homosexuality = Man-as-God … ring any bells?!

Leaving aside the amusement of citing Plato in a harangue against homosexuality and the fact that, if Christianity is true, women are also the creation of God, WTF? He actually believes that men have sex with men because they really want “spiritual fellowship with God”? Wow.

To be strong, as men, Christian men must understand that homosexuality is a direct raping of the relationship between Man and God – NOT, as some have suggested, a perfectly viable sexual “choice” open to the same freedoms that any other “consensual choice” seems to have in our relativistic society.

Interesting choice of words. A “raping.” Relationships cannot be raped, of course, only people can. But he might as well have chosen genocide instead. Or torture. Or any other bad thing. This is the essence of absurd rhetoric. He just picks out a word that sounds bad and uses it, with no relation to the argument he’s making at all.

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  • http://composer99.blogspot.ca composer99

    Glatze needs to try out a new dressing on his word salad. This one leaves a sour aftertaste.

  • slc1

    As usual, no mention of lesbianism. I guess god is a ok with that.

  • raven

    Glatze: Homosexuality Rapes God. Or Something.

    God isn’t very powerful then. Maybe he should buy a gun or something.

    Or..maybe he likes it.

  • marcus

    @ 3 “Or…maybe he likes it.”

    It’s a little game he likes to play alright? He’s just being coy and playing hard-to-get.

  • steve84

    Maybe iron chariots were used

  • iplon

    Hey, for all we know, he might also be a bisexual man pretending to be heterosexual!

  • Chiroptera

    I am led to understand that a god’s body has a mechanism that shuts down that whole smiting thing during a legitimate rape.

  • Forbidden Snowflake

    So God is male? Despite not having a body, and thus not having a penis and testicles? He just identifies as male and we are expected to respect his identity?

    I see a possibility of theologizing the way into acceptance of trans* people here.

  • Sastra

    Ultimately, it results in homosexuality, because the man – seeking for a spiritual fellowship with God – positions himself either as a “god” for another man, or in the position of worshiping another man as “god.”

    What does this imply then about relations between a man and a woman? Is the man automatically in the position of “God” and the women then in the role of someone “worshiping God?” If so, there’s another incentive for gay men to try to play the straight role: if there’s a woman, you get to be “God!”

    So it sounds like it’s win/win for the guys all around.

  • John Pieret

    all while also “using” women as procreative slaves

    Isn’t that pretty much the way the Righteous Right wants to keep them?

  • Johnny Vector

    Sometimes the only response is to quote The Tick.

    In a culture of emperor worship, homosexuality = Man-as-God … ring any bells?!

    Nope.

  • http://timgueguen.blogspot.com timgueguen

    If God doesn’t like the gay then he should have done something about it with his omnipotentness a long time ago. Or made humans incapable of being gay in the first place.

  • Larry

    #8

    So God is male?

    Of course he is. Haven’t you seen those paintings of a white-haired dude with a flowing white beard? Oh, and he’s white, too. Speaks and writes in English. Bats left, throws right.

  • marcus

    Larry @ 8 “Bats left, throws right.”

    Sounds more like a switch-hitter to me. :0

  • lorn

    Growing up in a Baptist household and going to church regularly until my mid-teens I seem to remember several sermons about how Christians were supposed to be “brides of Christ” and “yearn to be penetrated by Christ”. I remember this because I was struck by the juxtaposition of a congregation that was simultaneously anti-gay using such suggestive terminology, and doing so completely devoid of any thought of how it sounded to more worldly ears, or irony. It didn’t help that several deacons were far more fay than anyone but those blind to even the possibility of homosexuality might overlook.

    The whole thing became something of an unintentional farce when a deacon, extremely well groomed and bow-tied, essentially fulfilling every cheap stereotype of gayness, minced and pranced his way to the back of the room to admonish with a slightly lilting lisp that “you boys should not be playing with each other during services”. Finishing with “I want you boys erect and giving me your complete attention”. At which point we fell out laughing. It was one of the last times I went to church.

    I thought of this recently when it was related by someone intimately familiar with the catholic church that ‘the reason the church has such problems with homosexuality is that it is so gay. They can’t face the contradiction because they have for so long condemned homosexuality. They are incapable of seeing the gayness in their own hearts and ranks but feel the incongruity. Unable to admit to the proximate source of the issue they project it outward and experience it as an attack from outside.

    Typically this is framed along the lines of ‘If only those gays out there would shut up I would stop feeling these terrible feelings”. So it goes.

  • baal

    I wonder* what the church would be like if jesus had a long parable with the punch line, “accept yourself for who you are.”

    *I don’t actually wonder, it’d be the same as it is today. They feel more than happy to skip some of the positive messages as it is.

  • mithrandir

    I think he means you’re only allowed to have man-on-man sex with God.

  • dingojack

    But god told Moses it was OK to see his ‘backside’.

    God commands you to admire his ass, Mr Glatze, just don’t covet your neighbour’s (unless you admire god’s first, perhaps?)

    11 on my gaydar!

    Dingo

  • CaitieCat

    I’ve always wanted to start a guerilla-car-stickering campaign, where we add a second sticker after every one saying “God/Jesus/The Lord Loves Me”, saying “…All Night Long” or “…Bent Over The Bedstead” or “…Over and Over”.

  • Nick Gotts

    What does this imply then about relations between a man and a woman? Is the man automatically in the position of “God” and the women then in the role of someone “worshiping God?” – Sastra

    That’s pretty standard Christian doctrine.

    1 Corinthians 11:3 (KJV):

    But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

    Incidentally interesting that it suggests Christ was not identified with God by the founder of Christianity, Paul of Tarsus.

  • unemployedphilosopher

    Seriously, Symposium? Its best moments are Alcibiades complaining about how Socrates doesn’t put out, and Diotima kicking the rhetorical ass of everybody else in the room. You want a proper Platonic dialogue on love, try Phaedrus. Ideally in the original Greek, but hey, we make do with what we have. (My favorite line, paraphrased as I don’t really care to look it up: “If we could see Wisdom as we can see Beauty, it would arouse in us a terrible love”). The chariot metaphor, not so much.

  • =8)-DX

    Is the man automatically in the position of “God” and the women then in the role of someone “worshiping God?”

    Talking about positions? One word. Blowjobs.

  • matty1

    @19 Jesus says he loves me, but he never remembers our anniversary, or my birthday and when’s the last time we went out to dinner just the two of us?

    Too long for a car sticker?

  • Pierce R. Butler

    Relationships cannot be raped, of course, only people can.

    Neal Horsley’s cattle and mules, among others, might dispute that.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=730511544 billdaniels

    While having sex, I have often heard my male partners say. “0h God! Oh God! Oh God!”*

    is this what he is talking about?

    *Okay, I haven’t heard anyone say that in 40 years. My memory is still good.