New Alternative Boy Scouts Will Allow Gays

As promised, a group of wingnuts who were furious over the Boy Scouts of America allowing gay teens to join has formed its own alternative scouting organization. They don’t appear to have a name yet, but they’re actually going to allow gays to join as well — as long as they don’t flaunt it and accept that they’re damaged.

Boys will not be excluded from the organization based on race, religion, national origin or ethnicity, he said, though adult leaders will be required to adhere to a statement of Christian faith and values.

“In addition, the organization’s membership policy will focus on sexual purity rather than sexual orientation,” said Green. “The policy will read, in part: ‘the proper context for sexual relations is only between a man and a woman in the covenant of marriage.'”

Young men who have same-sex attractions will be permitted into the organization, though they will not be allowed to push a gay agenda or flaunt their sexual orientation.

“I think that there’s a real difference between someone who has a same-sex attraction and someone who identifies with the gay political movement,” said John Stemberger, founder of OnMyHonor.net. “That’s a very different thing, and so we wouldn’t tolerate any kind of open sex or politics in the program, or gay activism.”

So they can be there as long as they don’t get all uppity. I guess they’ll be giving out a merit badge for staying in the closet. That’s healthy.

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  • raven

    This is a win-win for everyone.

    1. The BSA gets rid of a few very weird religious kooks.

    2. They get to be very weird religious kooks.

    he said, though adult leaders will be required to adhere to a statement of Christian faith and values.

    They have the religious bigotry down. Which xianity, which xian values? There is no such thing with 42,000 diiferent sects. It’s so cute that they excluded Jews, and all other religions.

    “In addition, the organization’s membership policy will focus on sexual purity rather than sexual orientation,” said Green. “The policy will read, in part: ‘the proper context for sexual relations is only between a man and a woman in the covenant of marriage.’”

    This has nothing to do with what the BSA is supposed to be. An outdoor adventure group for kids.

  • Mr Ed

    Raven beat me to the punch, so long don’t let the door hit you on the way out. Now BSA can be about the activities an not purity to god

  • cswella

    Go ahead, marginalize yourselves. Only wish more people would take this tactic with other things.

  • cswella
  • raven

    The OP says they don’t have a name yet.

    It’s got to be the Christian Scouts or some such. Martyr scouts. Oogedy Boogedy Scouts.

    I doubt it will be very popular.

    The one advantage the BSA has is a huge base of real estate accumulated over a century. Including summer camps in scenic beach and mountain areas.

    But that hasn’t prevented an explosion in focused summer camps for kids, Kayak, canoe, computer, environmental, biology, atheist, music, sports, and on and on camps.

    PS The next schism will occur when they stop persecuting and discriminating against atheists and agnostics. Cthulhu knows when that will be but Nones are on trend to be 50% of the population by 2030.

  • tubi

    Stemberger may even allow those gay boys to use his bathroom.

  • erichoug

    Gee, A scouting organization based on ideology rather than ideas. Sounds awesome.

    Frankly, I don’t think that avoiding sex is going to be much of a problem for anyone joining this alternative to the BSA.

  • Abdul Alhazred

    There were already plenty of religious affiliated scout-like organizations before the BSA integrated.

    One more doesn’t change anything.

  • matty1

    “That’s a very different thing, and so we wouldn’t tolerate any kind of open sex or politics in the program, or gay activism.”

    Is open sex currently a problem in the BSA?

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    Young men who have same-sex attractions will be permitted into the organization, though they will not be allowed to push a gay agenda or flaunt their sexual orientation.

    How can they tell? All macaroni art has glitter!

     

    matty1 “Is open sex currently a problem in the BSA?”

    Well, somebody’s never been to a Jamboree.

  • Doc Bill

    So many problems here!

    Stemberger is a “generic” Christian – unaffiliated church founded by some guy waving a bible and a goat.

    Second, Scouting has a vast and extensive training program for leaders and youth. That’s basically what Scouting is, an extensive training program teaching leadership and teamwork. In addition to the camps and all the “stuff” Scouting has been refining the training part for over 100 years and its far from stagnant, and has been putting a real and effective emphasis on youth protection and diversity. Sure, there are kooks in the program, but even the executive leadership is changing, slowly. Remember, the membership vote was 60-40. That’s a huge shift in membership attitude even over a few years ago.

    If Stemberger can pull a few more bigots out of the program, good, but, alas, bad for the boys they pull with them. They have no chance to succeed because they’re basing their organization on bad principles.

  • regexp

    Are the straight boys also forbidden to ‘flaunt’ their sexual orientation? No talking of girls? No penis size comparisons?

    Just curious …

  • coragyps

    There’s a brand new organization here in our town made up of “former Boy Scouts” here in our town. They call themselves “Creation Explorers.”

    I’ll be most interested to learn more about in what sense “creation” is used there…..

    And omygawd, regexp, if we hadn’t been allowed to talk about pussy after lights-out on campouts back in ’62, there would have been no talk at all! Though I’ll bet the rent every one of us was a virgin……

  • coragyps

    too many “here in our town”s there – sorry

  • Doc Bill

    Here’s the adult Statement of Faith for the new “scouting” ministry:

    The following provisional statement of faith and values will be signed by all adult leaders in the new boys program:

    “We believe that there is One Triune God – Father, Jesus Christ His one and only Son, and the Holy Spirit – Creator of the universe and eternally existent. We believe the Holy Scriptures (Old and New Testaments) to be the inspired and authoritative Word of God. We believe each person is created in His image for the purpose of communing with and worshipping God. We believe in the ministry of the Holy Spirit who enables us to live a Godly life. We believe that each individual is called to love the Lord their God with all their heart, mind, soul and strength; and to love their neighbors as themselves. We believe that each individual is called to live a life of purity, service, stewardship and integrity.”

  • raven

    “We believe that there is One Triune God – Father, Jesus Christ His one and only Son, and the Holy Spirit –

    LOL.

    That leaves out a lot of xians.

    Not all xians are Trinitarians.

    Unitarians, JW’s, Mormons, Quakers, Xian Scientists, and a bunch of others.

  • exdrone

    So they are proposing a club for boys with an alternative scout-style? It’s not about choosing a different organization, it’s about having a different scouting orientation.

  • Erp

    Raven, they can’t use ‘scout’ or ‘scouting’ as the Boy Scouts of America have a trademark on those for youth activities (the Girl Scouts are the sole exception and it took a bit of a fight back around 1920).

    Of the non-Trinitarian Christians, the Mormons supported the BSA change in policy so aren’t leaving (and they are big enough to set up their own organization if they needed to). The JWs probably don’t do scouting, too many non-JWs. The Unitarians are either staying with the BSA or going with the Navigators (another new scouting like organization which doesn’t discriminate on grounds of religion [or lack thereof], sexual orientation, or gender). The Quakers would probably take the same stance as the Unitarians.

    I do wonder what the Catholic bishops would make of the statement of faith. I’m not familiar enough with Catholic doctrine to know whether this is heretical in their eyes. The hierarchy may also be concerned if the powers running the new organization are solely evangelical.

  • dingojack

    What’s the betting?

    After talking and talking about forming a new group (and taking a shit-load of donations) they’ll throw their hands up and say ‘nope too difficult. Oh by the way it’s also too difficult to give your money back – see ya suckers!’

    Dingo

  • iangould

    “adult leaders will be required to adhere to a statement of Christian faith and values.”

    Whatever will the non-Christian bigots with an unhealthy preoccupation with the sexuality of gay teens do?

  • iangould

    @11 “some guy waving a bible and a goat. ”

    I’m a bit sleep-deprived at the moment: was the goat being waved around along with the bible or was it a co-founder of the church?

  • Doc Bill

    Hat tip to comedian Ron White for the goat. It always gets a laff.