Rand Paul: Friend of Minorities

In the movie Oh Brother, Where Art Thou?, Homer Stokes, a candidate for governor, traveled around with a midget as a symbol that he was a “friend of the little man.” One almost expects Rand Paul to begin traveling with a black person after claiming that there is “no greater defender of minority rights” than him.

With only fifteen minutes on the clock, Paul teed up Harwood by saying “it was awful what happened to black Americans during the Jim Crow years.” Harwood pivoted to Paul’s departed social media adviser Jack Hunter.

“What conclusion should people draw from the presence of that former shock jock on your staff?” asked Harwood.

“He’s no longer on my staff,” said Paul.

“But you had a pretty strong association with him,” said Harwood, truthfully — Hunter co-wrote Paul’s first book.

“I think some of the things he wrote, or many were stupid, and I don’t agree with,” started Paul, without getting specific. After he cleared his name, he took a moment to defend Hunter. “I do think he was unfairly treated by the media, and he was put up as target practice for people to say he’s a racist, and none of that was true. If you look at his writings, I think there are a lot of problems and a lot of disagreements and none of it do I support. But none of it was racist. He got along with everyone in the office, treated everyone fairly without regards to race or religion.”

By definition, since Hunter was nice to non-whites, he didn’t fit Paul’s idea of a “racist.” This is how the Paul movement views the question. It won’t accept the framework of “societal racism.” Liberals can’t be allowed to define what is racist. Racism is what’s observable: Personal bias against non-whites. And on that count, Paul considers himself not just spotless but exemplary.

“There is no greater defender, truly, of minority rights, if you consider minorities to be the color of your skin or the color of your ideology, than myself,” he told Harwood. “I will stand up there with the most progressive members of the caucus.”

The guy who, like his father, has close ties to white nationalists and neo-confederates. The guy who says the Civil Rights Act is wrong and that people should be able to refuse to hire people on the basis of their race. He’s the greatest defender of minorities there is. The mind boggles.

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  • colnago80

    George Orwell to the white courtesy phone, George Orwell to the white courtesy phone.

  • Chiroptera

    Rand Paul: Liberals can’t be allowed to define what is racist.

    Yes, we must allow racists to define what is racism.

  • John Pieret

    The mind boggles.

    Unfortunately, in the politics of the US today, that isn’t sufficient to relegate people like Paul to the sidelines.

  • Larry

    Why, I bet he even allows them colored folk to use his bathroom.

  • http://artk.typepad.com ArtK

    @ Larry

    Nah. He supports them by giving them their very own bathroom. They get their own water fountain too, and special entrances to his house. See how much he honors minorities?

  • AsqJames

    Chiroptera:

    Rand Paul: Liberals can’t be allowed to define what is racist.

    Yes, we must allow racists to define what is racism.

    Ah, but you see a “liberal” and a “racist” are the same thing to many RWNJs.

  • A. Noyd

    “There is no greater defender, truly, of minority rights, if you consider minorities to be the color of your skin or the color of your ideology, than myself.”

    What a weird definition of minority. It’s almost like it’s set up to include libertarians.

  • tsig

    No Larry, he allows them to clean his bathroom.

  • exdrone

    So he doesn’t believe that racisim can have harmful effects by acting indirectly at the societal level, but he holds that view about liberalism and media bias? Huh. Well, his views are certainly very discriminating. (pun intended)

  • alanb

    Yeah, but does Rand have as good a relationship with the Blacks as Donald has? Donald has always had a great relationship with the blacks.

  • blf

    Donald Duck?

  • alanb
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  • busterggi

    George Orwell to the red courtesy phone, George Orwell to the red courtesy phone.

    Because dear coinago80, the phone is whatever color he says it is.

  • http://polrant@blogspot.com democommie

    “Rand Paul: Friend of Minorities”

    Well, rich, white racist assholes ARE a minority.

  • Don Williams

    What I think most reflects badly on Rand Paul is his statement: “I will stand up there with the most progressive members of the caucus.”

    I mean –when someone sets the bar that far down you have to wonder about their sincerity.

    After all, it wasn’t the Tea Party or the Republicans who were given roughly 90% of the black vote in 2008 and who thereby gained the White House, a huge supermajority in the House and a filibuster proof majority in the Senate. A once in 30 years aggregation of raw political power.

    And who then used that power to hand $Billions in bonuses to white Wall Street executives out the back door of the US Treasury — while dumping 15% unemployment onto the black community for 5 YEARS!

    I mean, functionally, what difference is there between progressive Democrats and the Ku Klux Klan ?– aside from the hypocrisy and ability to get elected, I mean.

    What percentage of black men have a prison record? What percentage of white Wall Street traders?

    Yet who steals the most?

  • http://www.facebook.com/Caller.Rutee Rutee Katreya

    I mean, functionally, what difference is there between progressive Democrats and the Ku Klux Klan ?– aside from the hypocrisy and ability to get elected, I mean.

    Occasinoally, progressive democrats see it in them to maybe fix something after throwing goodies to white people. But yeah, it’s pretty awful.

  • abusedbypenguins

    Rand Paul teaming up with Ru Paul and then go clubbing is a much better fit.

  • http://polrant@blogspot.com democommie

    “I mean, functionally, what difference is there between progressive Democrats and the Ku Klux Klan ?– aside from the hypocrisy and ability to get elected, I mean.”

    Um, Dondi, Fuck you, ‘kay? You fucking troll.

  • http://www.facebook.com/den.wilson d.c.wilson

    Homer Stokes turned out to be a grand wizard in the KKK while Randy pals around with neo confederate racists.

    The comparison may be even more apt than Ed had intended.

  • colnago80

    Re Don Williams @ #16

    What percentage of black men have a prison record? What percentage of white Wall Street traders?

    Of course, most of those Afro-American (a little political correctness here Donaldo?) men in the slammer are there on state charges. Very few, relatively speaking, are in federal prisons. Little hard to blame that on the Democrats in Congress and in the White House.

  • steve84

    Rand Paul would be perfectly fine with slavery, segregation and any other kind of discrimination as long as it’s a state and not the federal government doing the discriminating.

  • velociraptor

    @ Don Williams

    You had a decent post until this:

    “I mean, functionally, what difference is there between progressive Democrats and the Ku Klux Klan ?– aside from the hypocrisy and ability to get elected, I mean.”

    There are plenty Dem clowns in Congress, progressive and otherwise – a valid point. But you comitted seppuku with that bit of hyperbole .

  • skemono

    Yes, truly Rand Paul is the greatest friend to people of color. Who else would patiently explain their own history to them, the poor dears?

  • Don Williams

    Re veloci at 23:

    1) How about we ask Robert Byrd?

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/18/AR2005061801105_pf.html

    2) Or maybe Cornel West?

    http://www.eurweb.com/2013/07/west-msnbc-is-rent-a-negro-net-and-sharpton-is-on-obama-plantation/

    3) I have been puzzled by the loud and prolonged Chinese New Year Dragon Dance the Democratic Party has been putting on over the Trayvon Martin shooting. There are over 1350 diaries on Daily Kos alone. And what can explain NBC and MSNBC’s outright lying in the attempt to stir the pot?

    And then I realized — the massive shedding of fake tears for Trayvon is a Democratic Get Out the Vote operation.

    Done in the hope that the false display of sympathy will divert black voters away from how they have been sodomized for the past 5 years.

    After all, we are into the fifth year of the Obama Administration. Camden NJ and Chester PA have some of the highest homicide rates on the planet — anyone see any sign that Democrats care?

    We know what kills people. Corruption breeds high unemployment which breeds misery and deep poverty which breeds crime which breed violence. Anyone seen any constructive action on that front? Any acknowledgment by MSNBC of Sanford’s very high unemployment, high crime rates, and collapsing property values during this Obama Boom?

    Of course , I can understand the political calculation that The loud lips ervice divorced from any meaningful action doesn’t cost Democratic billionaires anything.

    4) That is also why we had the loud attacks on Ron Paul over racism –based on 20 year old newletters and a tortured guilt by association. Meanwhile no one seems to notice that Obama’s last two Secretaries of State voted for an unnecessary war in Iraq that has killed more black men in the past decade than the Ku Klux Klan had killed in 140 years. Plus there was something deeply hilarious about Marty Peretz’s New Republic accusing someone of racism given Marty’s well-publicized views on Arabs.

  • http://www.pandasthumb.org Area Man

    “There is no greater defender, truly, of minority rights, if you consider minorities to be the color of your skin or the color of your ideology, than myself,” he told Harwood.

    What the hell does that even mean, the “color of your ideology”? Is this one of those cases where Republicans, who represent society’s most privileged members, consider themselves a persecuted minority?

  • colnago80

    Re Don Williams @ #25

    Of course, the fact that ole Ron palled around with Don Black, proprietor of Stormfront, is of little consequence to Donaldo.

  • Don Williams

    Re colnago at 27:

    1) Well, last year Sheldon Adelson dumped $100 million trying to buy an invasion of Iran. A few years before that Haim Saban “saved the Democratic Party” with a donation of $15 million to buy an invasion of Iraq.

    How much has Stormfront donated? Or are you trying to divert attention away from major players by

    shrieking in horror at small insects?

  • colnago80

    Re Donaldo Williams @ #28

    And of course, the ethnic backgrounds of Adelson and Saban have nothing to do with ole Donaldo’s ire toward them. Not a bit of it, perish the thought.

    Oh by the way, ole Donaldo’s Beagles got off to a flying start yesterday.

  • Jim S.

    Dr. Paul has the heart of a true civil rights advocate and moral leader. He says, for instance, that if he had been old enough, he would have marched with Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. in the struggle for equal rights.

    Thank you, Dr. Randal Howard “Rand” Paul. That’s real white of you.

    http://heygetthis.wordpress.com/2010/05/19/dr-rand-paul-civil-rights-patriot/

  • Dave Mabus

    what’s the harm of little blaspheming idi*ts like Pz Myers

    hauntedtavern.proboards.com/thread/5610/fake-anglo-saxon-monarchy?page=1&scrollTo=60584

  • colnago80

    Re #31

    The loony from Montreal is at it again.

  • scienceavenger

    Don Williams, the Speedy Gonzales of non sequitors, bouncing from irrelevancy to irrelevancy at record speed. You sound like you learned to write at the feet of Doug Giles. This is not a compliment.

  • http://polrant@blogspot.com democommie

    @33:

    As I noted a while back, Don Williams is possibly the only person who could make me long for the Threadpirate mroberts.

    He’s like mroberts with even MORE psedointellKKKualism and, eve LESS charm.

  • colnago80

    Re democommie @ #34

    Ah come on, ole Donaldo may be a little kooky but dumb he ain’t. Giles and mroberts are morons.

  • Don Williams

    1) One of the basic things political hacks learn is something called “framing”. It is what Fox News does — greatly exaggerating things that support your agenda (e.g, your deep love for some group) while covering up and hiding facts that do not support your agenda or even call it into question. (e.g, your acts that are contrary to what you say you are for.)

    2) I myself do not think the following are irrelevant to the question of who — and who is not — generally sympathetic to the black community:

    a) An average unemployment of 15% for 5 Years running

    b) the extremely high incarceration rate of black males

    c) extremely high homicide rates among black males

    d) the high poverty rates in some communities within the richest nation on earth

    e) the unnecessary deaths of black soldiers in unnecessary wars

    f) political corruption and economic policies that promote a-e

    h) the hypocrisy of attacking Rand Paul’s hypocrisy given (f)

  • Don Williams
  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=523300770 stuartsmith

    Of course he is. He’s a tireless defender of the rights of minorities not to hire… Well, maybe not whites, but certainly other minorities. I can’t think of a more fundamental right than that of in-group discrimination, which is the foundation all of human civilization.

  • Don Williams

    1) I agree that the Republicans are scum —SLC can tell you that I criticized them relentless when Bush was in power. I expected Obama to do like FDR and put the Republicans in the wilderness for 40 years after Bush’s massive screw-ups.

    2) Instead we had that strange silence from the White House for most of 2009 — while the Republicans were mounting a massive, deceitful propaganda campaign to make a comeback.

    3) And I was astounded that Republican Scott Brown was able to take a seat that Ted Kennedy held for DECADES. Until I saw the Democratic Caucus greeting Scott with all the ecstasy of a wagon train under siege by the Indians greeting the arrival of the cavalry.

    Because it let the two-faced Caucus off the hook to actually DO SOMETHING — versus giving out idle

    lip service and fake sympathy. It let them craft the meme of how a small Republican minority was actually running the government and everything was just Too Hard.

    4) From that we segued to the story that the Evil Republicans will screw us 95% of the time — and that if the Democrats only screw us 94% of the time then they deserve our unquestioning support and loyalty. Because otherwise the Evil Republicans will sneak into our homes in the dead of night and screw us in our poopie holes.

    5) Of course, the Republican whores are not what really win things for the Rich. They screw us for a while but when the popular outrage grows the Rich bring a new team in — to take control of the outrage, to subvert and undermine it and to finally lead it over the cliff. To lead the peasant mob out onto the field of battle — and then either fall down and beg for terms of surrender from the small Republican enemy or to flee the field of battle and leave the now disorganized peasants to their fate.

    The Republicans would not last 6 months if they had a real opposition — versus people working for the same billionaires. Or , as Cornel West say, Rockefeller Republicans in blackface.

  • colnago80

    Re DonWilliams @ #37

    Of course, the real reason that ole Donaldo likes Cornell West is because West is an Israel bashing anti-Semite, like Jeremiah Wright.

  • Don Williams

    SLC at 40:

    1) Actually, I didn’t know that. Although I knew of one Jew that doesn’t like Cornel West:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/06/larry-summers-harvard_n_3707808.html

    2) Re 29 above, show me other billionaires dumping $100 Million and $15 million into a single

    electoral season and I’ll mention them as well. Especially if they are pushing for the sacrifice of

    thousands of American lives for the defense of a foreign country.

  • colnago80

    Ah gee, an article by Amanda Terkel, who famously wrote an article on her blog stating that the Duke lacrosse players were guilty of rape after it had become clear to everybody but her that the charges were a crock of shit. I am afraid that ole Donaldo will have to do better then that.

    How much money have the Koch s into various Rethuglican PACs?

  • colnago80

    Re @42

    Oh by, did I screw up. The author of the blog post stating that the Duke lacrosse players were guilty of rape was Amanda Marcotte, not Amanda Terkel. Too many Amandas. Mea culpa.

  • http://www.pandasthumb.org Area Man

    2) I myself do not think the following are irrelevant to the question of who — and who is not — generally sympathetic to the black community:

    a) An average unemployment of 15% for 5 Years running

    b) the extremely high incarceration rate of black males

    c) extremely high homicide rates among black males

    d) the high poverty rates in some communities within the richest nation on earth

    If Rand Paul has a plan to deal with any of these things, if he even cares about or acknowledges any of these things as problems, you’ll have show us where.

  • Don Williams

    Re Area Man at 44:

    1) Rand Paul did not win the White House in 2008 with 90% of the black vote.

    2) Rand Paul’s group did not also received a huge supermajority in the House and

    a filibuster proof majority in the Senate in 2008 with black support.

    3) It was not Rand Paul who dumped $8 Trillion in debt onto the American People–

    including the black community — in order to pay the gambling debts of the Rich and

    give a massive bailout to the Big Banks and Wall Street.

    4) It was not Rand Paul who made the Policy Decisions that shoveled $Billions in

    bonuses to Wall Street traders directly from the US Treasury while letting credit be

    shut off to thousands of small businesses and driving black unemployment to

    over 15% for YEARS.

    5) So why the focus on Rand Paul? Other than to Divert attention away from those

    RESPONSIBLE for the screwing the black community has been getting? Which I

    would consider highly misleading “framing”.

    But then in your quote from post 36 you deliberately left out items (f) and (h)

    6) Republican “obstructionism”? Reid had the power to overturn that for 2 years —

    and did nothing.

    Nobody was talking about the Magic Filibuster back in 2001 —

    the raid on Social Security’s Trust Fund to give a $3 Trillion tax cut to the Rich

    slide through Congress like shit through a goose. Aided by 12 Democratic

    Senators–people like Ben Nelson. And when Ole Ben came up for reelection a few years

    later, the Democratic National Committee and Democratic Senate Campaign Committee

    gave Ben $76,000 to run.

    We could put 95 Democrats in the Senate — and at the critical moment 40 of them would

    defect to the Republicans and a hundred diaries would appear at Daily Kos giving tortured,

    incoherent explanations for why 5 Republicans were running the government for the benefit of

    the Rich.

  • http://www.pandasthumb.org Area Man

    So from your response, I take it that Rand Paul does not have any policies or plans to deal with the problems of the black community, assuming that he even recognizes such problems exist.

    So why the focus on Rand Paul?

    Because his self-proclaimed championing of the needs of minorities is the subject of this thread. I realize that staying on topic is not your forte, but you could at least read the title.

  • Don Williams

    Re Area man at 46:

    1) But Rand Paul is not the only “self-proclaimed champion of the needs of minorities”:

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1211/69752.html

    2) Rand Paul would “frame” black unemployment in terms of his libertarian ideology. And since

    I consider libertarianism to be a two-faced and false ideology, I think his framing would be

    two-faced and false.

    3) But the question is which “self-proclaimed champion of the needs of minorities” was actually

    in power in 2009 when the decisions were made that resulted in 5 years of 15% unemployment.

    Who controlled the White House, the House, and the Senate. Who is Responsible.

    If you wish to “frame” that question as off-topic and irrelevant then you have no moral standing

    to accuse Rand Paul of self-serving hypocrisy.

  • http://polrant@blogspot.com democommie

    “) Rand Paul’s group did not also received a huge supermajority in the House and

    a filibuster proof majority in the Senate in 2008 with black support.”

    That there, Dondi, is what’s known as a fucking lie OR a demonstration of your ignorance.

    NOBODY got a super majority, dumbfuck. Mr. Obama got elected with a higher number of democrats in both the Senate and the House. Democrats, unlike reptiliscum do NOT generally vote in lockstep according to the instructions they get from Rancid Prybar at the RNC. Much like Bill Clinton from 1992 to 1996, Obama’s “majority” was not taking orders from anyone.

    Both parties are teh suck. I vote dem because due to their ineptitude or the fact that they still have some vestigial pangs of conscience, they fuck me less efficiently and more slowly than the GOP. There are no viable third party candidates and there won’t be until there is some sort of base for them to rise from.

    Rand Paul, btw, like his daddy is a racist, huckstering, lying sociopathic piece-of-shit.

    Colnago80 (I much prefer slc1–it’s easier to type!) sez that Dondi IS a smart man; I remain unconvinced.

  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    And then I realized — the massive shedding of fake tears for Trayvon is a Democratic Get Out the Vote operation.

    Yeah, Don, we’re trying to get people to come out and vote against racist policies. You got a problem with that?

    Incoherent troll is incoherent. Go fuck yourself, you pretentious asshat.

  • Don Williams

    Re demo at 48:

    1) Yes, both parties suck. Yes, the Republicans fuck us 95% of the time and the Democrats usually only fuck us 93-94% of the time –unless one of their billionaire owners has some skin in the game.

    2) “The base” from which a third party should arise –or possibly a reformed Democratic party — should be the 98% of the population that is getting fucked.

    3) Which is why the billionaires pay sellouts a pitiful wage to constantly divide and conquer the 98%.

    To tell urban blacks that every white Southerner is just dying to lynch a Negro while telling rural white blue collar workers that their living standards are falling because lazy urban blacks are stealing the whites’ wages as welfare.

    Millions of unemployed blacks are stabbed in the back by Democrats wanting to bring in 20 million immigrants to take jobs and drive wages down — and the Democrats then try to divert the blacks’ attention from 5 years of 15% unemployment by deceitful lynching a scapegoat Hispanic in the news media.

    Jesse Jackson was the only politican who ever tried to change that game — and the Democratic leadership killed his “Rainbow Coalition” so fast the angels blinked.

  • colnago80

    Re Don Williams @ #50

    Jesse Jackson was the only politican who ever tried to change that game — and the Democratic leadership killed his “Rainbow Coalition” so fast the angels blinked.

    Ah yes, ole Hymietown Jesse Jackson.

  • colnago80

    Re democommie @ #48

    Ole Donaldo also glosses over the presence of a number of Blue Dog Democrats in the Senate in 2009-2010. Ben Nelson, Mary Landrieu, Evan Bayh, etc. The real problem here is Harry Reid who is too weak a leader to get those Bule Doggers in line. Where is Lyndon Johnson when you need him?

  • Don Williams

    Re demo at 48:

    1) Democratic “disunity” is just an excuse for opportunistic sellouts. When Ben Nelson voted for George W Bush’s tax cut for the Rich in 2001, his punishment from the DNC and DSCC was $76,000 to run for reelection.

    2) Democratic Members of Congress are pretty damn united when their billionaire owners want them to be.

    As Ernest May noted, they closed solid ranks with the Republicans in deciding that the American People could NOT be told why the Sept 11, 2001 attack occurred. No one contradicted George’s Big Lie — that Al Qaeda attacked us “because they hate our freedoms” — even though it was an obvious lie.

    3) When Howard May argued with Joe Lieberman in debate that the US should be a more neutral referee in the Israeli-Palestinian issue, Israeli Lobby billionaire S Daniel Abraham blew Dean’s Presidential bid out of the water with a barrage of anonymous attack ads in Iowa — and none of the Democratic Caucus objected.

    4) When Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney questioned US’s support for the Likud, a tsunami of campaign donations from both coasts destroyed her reelection bid — and that Money did not give a hairy rat’s ass about the needs of McKinney’s black constituents. And no one in the Democratic Caucus dared to object.

    I worked months as a volunteer in Dean’s campaign and in other Democratic campaigns during the Bush Administration — I saw what went on.

  • colnago80

    Re Donaldo Williams @ #53

    Cynthia McKinney is ole Donaldo’s kind of girl. Not only is she an Israel bashing anti-Semite, where she takes after her father, but she is a nutcase like Steve King and Louie Gohmert. And by the way, ole Cynthia didn’t give a rats ass for her constituents either.

  • Don Williams

    Re Raging Bee at 49: “Don, we’re trying to get people to come out and vote against racist policies”

    1) Oh, bullshit. Racist policies are the mother’s milk of Democratic politics. It is an essential tool they wield to distract attention away from their corruption.

    What could be more racist than arguing that allegiance to Hispanic foreigners takes precedence over 25 million unemployed Americans?

    2) What could be more racist than sending 4500 of your fellow countrymen to die in Iraq because the billionaire owner of the Democratic Party ,Haim Saban, feels a strong attachment to Israel?

    What could be more racist than attacking Ron Paul for “racism” based on 20 year old newletters and guilt by association — when Obama’s two Secretaries of State voted for an unnecessary war in Iraq that killed more black men in a decade than the Klan killed in 150 years? And Hillary is the frontrunner to take over from Obama in 2017.

    What could be more racist than dishonestly trying to lynch “white Hispanic” George Zimmerman in order to

    distract black voters away from the fact that the Democratic Sellout to White Wall Street of 2008-2009 has dumped 5 years of 15% unemployment onto the black community?

    3) Although I suppose you could argue that the Democratic leadership is nonracist — in the sense that they stab everyone in the back at one time or another. At least, everyone with an income of less than $500,000 per year.

  • Don Williams

    Re SLC at 52:

    It was Reid’s failure in the sense he should have amended Senate rules to scrap the filibuster.

    But it was also Obama’s failure. If I had been running the White House, Omaha Steaksand the ranchers

    of Nebraska would have had their herds under indefinite federal quarantine due to an outbreak of hoof and mouth disease. And if there wasn’t hoof and mouth disease in Nebraska, I would have shipped some in from Ft Detrick Md.

    Every state is deeply dependent on federal funding — and a Presidential veto should have been wielded until the federal budget was amended to punish and make an example of a selected Blue Dog. As the Chinese say, kill one to terrify 10 thousand.

  • http://polrant@blogspot.com democommie

    “1) Yes, both parties suck. Yes, the Republicans fuck us 95% of the time and the Democrats usually only fuck us 93-94% of the time –unless one of their billionaire owners has some skin in the game.”

    One more lie in a long, long list of lies. And when you’re not lying, Dondi, you have a habit of cherry picking that rivals every Gish Galloping piece-of-shit KKKristianist out there.Gosh, Do you have a “handler” (I mean that in the sense of someone who can turn door handles and the like for you) so you won’t smash that yard-long nose of yours every time you approach a solid object.

    Oh, wait, maybe I’m wrong and it was some other party that brought us Social Security, Medicare, ADFC and its successor programs, the TVA, The CCC, the WPA, The School Lunch Program, “Head Start”, the Glass Steagall Act and a fuckton of other legislation that DIDN’T fuck the average U.S. citizen.

    Do some fucking reading, douchebag.

  • colnago80

    Re democommie @ #57

    Here’s wagering that ole Donaldo will be along to inform us that the Democratic Party that did these things no longer exists. It is owned lock, stock, and barrel by Haim Saban and other billionaires who are only marginally less conservative then the Koch brothers.

  • busterggi

    Don, Don, Don – “As the Chinese say, kill one to terrify 10 thousand.”

    And if you are that one I guess you’d have no problem with it?

  • Don Williams

    1) What SLC said at 58.

    2) I find it hilarious that Glass Steagall was cited by demo as one of the Democratic Party’s

    accomplishments.

    Maybe Demo could check with Bill Clinton, Obama’s Economic Advisor

    Larry Summers, Clinton’s Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin and Democratic billionaire

    Sandy Weill and ask how that is working out:

    http://www.thenation.com/article/167472/hes-jolly-good-scoundrel-sanford-weill#

    3) And Social Security and Medicare kinda lost some of their luster when 12 Democratic Senators joined with

    George W Bush in stealing $3 Trillion out of the Trust Funds and handing them to the RIch as a tax cut.

    But what the hell– the programs were constructed so that low income workers can pay into them for 45 years and yet have NO legal claim to their deposits. The “account statements” are fictional:

    http://thehill.com/homenews/house/293703-dems-fear-obamas-social-security-cut-will-haunt-them-in-2014

    4) Meanwhile, the wealth of the Rich is protected against government taking by the Fifth Amendment.

    Whereas Middle class IRAs and 401K assets are trapped and can be taxed at as high a rate as Congress wants. Just in case anyone is wondering who is going to be stuck with that $17 Trillion debt.

  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    I worked months as a volunteer in Dean’s campaign and in other Democratic campaigns during the Bush Administration — I saw what went on.

    Your stories of volunteer work are probably just as bogus as your “theory” that (unspecified) rich people orchestrated the Civil War just to get West Virginia coal. You call yourself a Democrat in pretty much the same way that much more famous conspiracy-nut, Lyndon LaRouche, calls himself a Democrat.

    Tedious troll is tedious.

  • colnago80

    Re Raging Bee @ #61

    Oh come on, ole Donaldo provides much unintended levity to this blog. Who else can spin off so many conspiracy theories with such aplomb?

    Actually, his alter ego from the Yglesias blog, Richard Steven Hack was a pretty funny guy too. He once wrote that if someone would pay him 1 million dollars, he would steal a nuclear weapon from Israel. Guaranteed.

  • colnago80

    Re Don Williams @ #60

    Hey, a trillion here and a trillion there and pretty soon you’re talking real money.

  • Don Williams

    SLC at 62:

    What I think was the most hilarious conspiracy theory was Bill Clinton’s claim that he “felt our pain ” — that he also was a “friend of the little man”. Then Bill and Hillary picking up $80 million in net worth after Bill signed off on repeal of Glass Steagall and the China Trade bill, letting our billionaires throw millions of Americans –including the much loved black Americans — out on the street while exporting US capital to create jobs in China:

    http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/10/10/clinton.pntr/

    Maybe Bill Clinton could find a black dwarf to walk around with him — dress the little guy up like a jockey.

  • Don Williams

    Bee at 61:

    1) Actually I named some of the Northern plutocrats who promoted the Civil war for their benefit.

    2) How can someone who sincerely believes in the Democratic Party’s proclaimed values support the current Democratic leadership?

  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    One million dollars to steal a nuke? That wouldn’t even cover expenses, let alone danger pay. I’m not sure how many people you’d have to bribe to have any chance of success, but offhand, I’d guess EACH of them would need a million dollars just to even think of helping out. I loved “Spy Game,” but real covert ops don’t work that way.

  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    How can someone who sincerely believes in the Democratic Party’s proclaimed values support the current Democratic leadership?

    Well, they managed to beat back Mutt Romney, Paul Ryan and Donald Trump. I don’t see you offering better results than that.

  • http://polrant@blogspot.com democommie

    @67:

    Dondi is pissed because he knows that until one of them is elected PotUS he has no fucking chance of being elected to pick up dogshit in a public park. I mean; there’s Batshit KKKonservative, Really Batshit KKKonservative and OMFG Batshit KKKonservative. And then about 99% further along the scale, there’s Ol’ Dondi.

  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    Maybe Bill Clinton could find a black dwarf to walk around with him — dress the little guy up like a jockey.

    Oh, I see…you’re an ignorant racist git.

  • Don Williams

    Sigh. Note the response, SLC.

    I provide numerous citations and no one even bothers trying to refute my case for massive Democratic corruption and deceit. Their only response is that of Bill O’reilly — unswerving devotion to the Fuhrer Principle, mindless support of their political NFL football team and sellout of their proclaimed principles. Except whereas O’Reilly is a multimillionaire they eat mere crumbs. Not even their ad hominem slurs are original. Look at Matthew 25:31-46 and tell me these people are not damned in the sight of God .

    I can’t destroy the Republican Party — it’s members are too widely dispersed over a large land mass. But Democrats are more densely concentrated.

    So I give you the same proposal that God gave Abraham before Sodom and Gomorrah: Find me 10 honest Democrats.

  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    I provide numerous citations and no one even bothers trying to refute my case…

    Yeah, we don’t bother refuting LaRouchies or flat-earthers either. Care to guess why?

    Their only response is that of Bill O’reilly — unswerving devotion to the Fuhrer Principle…

    Gee, who else routinely equates liberals with Nazis? Oh yeah, Republicans and Libertarians. Yet another data-point showing that Don is more a right-wing lunatic than a Democrat.

  • colnago80

    Re raging Bee @ #66

    Ole Hack’s deck is missing a few cards. Richard is a convicted bank robber who went into a bank in San Francisco, told the tellers to empty their tills, and then tried to escape on a SF municipal bus. He spent 9 yeas in the federal slammer at Leavenworth, KS. after pleading guilty to armed robbery (bank robbery is a federal offense).

  • colnago80

    Re Raging Bee @ #71

    Actually ole Donaldo is a Bolshevik, if not a Trotskyite.

    Re Don Williams @ #64

    Well, there is at least one Senator calling for the passage of a replacement for the Glass/Steagall act, namely Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren. If Hillary decides not to run in 2016, she may well throw hir hat in the ring. In case ole Donaldo didn’t notice, there have been ads on this site citing her.

    By the way, ole Donaldo, in listing the miscreants who were behind the repeal of the Glass/Steagall act forgot the instigator, Alan Greenspan, also a member of his favorite ethnic group.