The Cheney Family Thanksgiving is Gonna Be Awkward

Heather Poe, the wife of Mary Cheney, doesn’t post to Facebook much. In fact, it had been almost a year since she’d posted anything at all. But seeing her sister-in-law Liz Cheney on TV saying bigoted things about her marriage seems to have pissed her right off.

I was watching my sister-in-law on Fox News Sunday (yes Liz, in fifteen states and the District of Columbia you are my sister-in-law) and was very disappointed to hear her say “I do believe in the traditional definition of marriage.”

Liz has been a guest in our home, has spent time and shared holidays with our children, and when Mary and I got married in 2012 – she didn’t hesitate to tell us how happy she was for us.

To have her now say she doesn’t support our right to marry is offensive to say the least

I can’t help but wonder how Liz would feel if as she moved from state to state, she discovered that her family was protected in one but not the other.

Ah, but Liz’ sense of privilege would overcome all such concerns. Mary also joined in the fun:

Couldn’t have said it better myself.

Liz – this isn’t just an issue on which we disagree – you’re just wrong – and on the wrong side of history.

It’s nice to see some honesty pierce the political fog in the Cheney family. Their parents, Dick and Lynne Cheney, were wrong to stay silent while the Bush administration pursued a strategy of exploiting bigotry against their own daughter for political gain. And Mary was wrong to stay silent in the face of her parents’ silence. Now if Dick were to speak out against Liz’ callousness, he might almost make up for his earlier silence. But I’m not holding my breath.

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  • eric

    From the description, Liz seems to be a clear case of a political mercenary; supporting the GOP platform on this point to get votes, not because she believes in it.

    In some ways, that’s worse than sincere bigotry. Its one thing to have someone throw you under the bus because they honestly believe they will save a bunch of bystanders by sacrificing you (sin! Jesus! Tornados!). Its quite another when their sole reason for sacrificing you is to get a job (one, I might add, their family fortune probably makes optional).

  • John Pieret

    she didn’t hesitate to tell us how happy she was for us

    Of course. When it is the human being … the relations who you have loved, despite all their faults, real and imagined … you naturally want them to be happy and root for them. The more honest politicians (not that any politician is ever remotely honest) … say a Rob Portman … will stand up for kith and kin, even if it hurts their careers.

    Lizzy Cheney (with an axe) is nowhere close to even that kind of honest.

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    I think it’s deplorable that Mary Cheney would choose to be so divisive. Why couldn’t she just live in a loveless, empty marriage with a man as God intended?

  • dingojack

    Interestingly enough the banner ad is for ‘current family law’, perhaps the Cheneys could use their services?

    ‘) Dingo

  • laurentweppe

    I do believe in the traditional definition of marriage.

    So do I: marriage is traditionally a business contract between two consenting partners (usualy the groom and his bride’s father) willing to put their inheritence in a common pot. Turns out allowing gays to marry does not go against this millenia old tradition. Now allowing women to marry without needing the permission of their dads, on the other hand….

  • doublereed

    I think she’s a disgusting filth of a human being for throwing her own sister under the bus like that. Like wtf is wrong with people. Dick Cheney at least had the decency to STFU about it. Liz is even worse than that.

  • Michael Heath

    The two big whoppers being told here by Liz Cheney, and now her dad, are the two lies not being sufficiently reported.

    The first:

    [Liz Cheney] “I do believe in the traditional definition of marriage.”

    Obviously Ed has harped on this for many years now. Protecting gays right to marry doesn’t infringe upon heterosexuals’ marriage rights.

    The second lie is more insidious and reveals the hypocrisy of anti-gay bigots and those who pander to them. And that’s the conservative lie that they favor gay marriage get handled by the states, while simultaneously claiming they’re the sole defenders of the U.S. Constitution, principles argued in the Declaration of Independence and because of what day it is, Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address. This is a hypocritical lie of course given the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment:

    No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

    Those of us who actually want to see gay marriage protected at the federal law should never let an opportunity to stick the knife into conservatives’ so-called states’ rights argument and then twist it, over, over, and over again. And that’s accomplished by responding with the clearly written and unambiguous language of the equal protection clause. And yet I doubt most Americans have ever heard a response to the states’ rights argument followed up with the words of the equal protection clause. Which is even worse now since it’s a lynchpin of Ted Olson and David Boies’ argument as their case has wound its way up the federal court system.

  • Michael Heath

    Ed writes:

    Now if Dick were to speak out against Liz’ callousness, he might almost make up for his earlier silence. But I’m not holding my breath.

    doublereed:

    I think she’s a disgusting filth of a human being for throwing her own sister under the bus like that. Like wtf is wrong with people. Dick Cheney at least had the decency to STFU about it. Liz is even worse than that.

    Umm, Dick Cheney has responded consistent with the [absence of] character we expect from him. He defended Liz:

    “Liz has always believed in the traditional definition of marriage,” the Cheneys said in a statement today. “She has also always treated her sister and her sister’s family with love and respect, exactly as she should have done.

    “Compassion is called for, even when there is disagreement about such a fundamental matter and Liz’s many kindnesses shouldn’t be used to distort her position,” they added.

    The statement made no mention of Mary Cheney, 44, or her wife, Heather Poe.

    Link: http://goo.gl/6TGrrs

  • doublereed

    Oh ok, Michael. Thanks for that. It felt wrong to suggest someone was more callous and horrible than Dick Cheney in any dimension.

  • tsig

    Somebody is going to get an invitation to go bird hunting.

  • cptdoom

    Mary Cheney didn’t simply stay silent like her parents while Bush and his cronies were chasing the anti-gay vote with their 2004 state Constitutional Amendments. Mary was running the VP Operations of the campaign, and was reportedly involved, along with the then-not-gay Ken Mehlman, in strategizing for the campaign, including anti-gay flyers sent out in places like Arkansas. When John Kerry mentioned the known fact Mary was a lesbian during his third debate with Bush, Mary was apparently behind the successful attempt to demonize him for “outing” her (she had been the official, and officially out, liaison for Coors to the LGBT community in the late 90s). The reason her marriage to Heather changes in status from state to state is, in no small part, due to her own actions, so I don’t have a lot of sympathy.

    However, I do think Heather Poe is pretty bad-ass for her dig on Liz moving “from state to state” – an obvious reference to her carpet bagging status.

  • Michael Heath

    tsig writes:

    Somebody is going to get an invitation to go bird hunting.

    I get the motivation to exploit Dick Cheney’s shooting someone in a joke. However I’ve yet to encounter even one joke that refers to the actual lesson learned.

    Mr. Cheney didn’t purposefully shoot his hunting companion. So what was vividly illustrated in that accident was Mr. Cheney’s demonstrable lack of concern about others. Here we observe his lack of concern extends even to his daughter Mary and her family.

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    Michael Heath “The second lie is more insidious and reveals the hypocrisy of anti-gay bigots and those who pander to them. And that’s the conservative lie that they favor gay marriage get handled by the states, while simultaneously claiming they’re the sole defenders of the U.S. Constitution, principles argued in the Declaration of Independence and because of what day it is, Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address.”

    Marriage is a state’s rights issue. That’s why we need a federal marriage amendment to the Bill of Rights to prevent states from enacting gay so-called “marriage” against the will of the people (or, when it follows the will of the people from those states, against the Will of the People from other states; states that uphold Morality and lose sleep at night knowing that other states have other citizens enjoying some of the rights that they enjoy). Do you know how much damage gay so-called “marriage” in Washington does to Traditional Marriages in Arkansas? Bunches!

  • suttkus

    I believe in the traditional definition of marriage: One man, as many brides and concubines as he can afford!

    What? It’s in the Bible so I know it’s the correct definition, I don’t know what you’re talking about.

  • http://www.facebook.com/eo.raptor.3 eoraptor

    The thing about bird-hunting with Cheney isn’t so much that he’s callous as that he can get the victim to apologize for being shot.

  • http://timgueguen.blogspot.com timgueguen

    This is a good example of how opposition to gay marriage, and homosexuality in general, does not in fact “protect families.” It does the opposite, it divides families. All because some people can’t accept the personal choice of romantic and sexual partners of others.

  • colnago80

    As I understand it, Mary and Poe are still living in Virginia, despite the fact that their marriage is not recognized there.

  • jakc

    Maybe if Bruce had named the album “Wyoming” Liz might have listened: “Man turns his back on his family well he just ain’t no good.”