Palin Babbles at Liberty University

Sarah Palin and Liberty University are a match made in wingnut heaven. Last week she appeared there to promote her new book about the completely fictional “war on Christmas” and babbled incoherently about the founding fathers and how they would love Christmas and hate those evil atheist infidels she imagines are trying to destroy it.

“If you lose that foundation, John Adams was implicitly warning us, then we will not follow our constitution, there will be no reason to follow our constitution because it is a moral and religious people who understand that there is something greater than self, we are to live selflessly, and we are to be held accountable by our creator, so that is what our constitution is based on, so those revisionists, those in the lamestream media, especially, who would want to ignore what our founders actually thought, felt and wrote about in our charters of liberty – well, that’s why I call them the lamestream media,” Palin said.

She seemed to imply that Jefferson, who spent his summers at a home not far from the present-day site of Liberty University, may have been inspired by the religious college founded in 1971 by televangelist Jerry Falwell.

“Thomas Jefferson and his thinking, I believe that much of it fundamentally came from this area, having spent his summers here, having spent influential years here, two miles away from Liberty University,” Palin said. “Man, there’s something in the water, perhaps, around here – again you are fortunate you get to taste it.”

I’d like bacon bits on my word salad, please. Seriously, WTF does that mean? She thinks Jefferson’s beliefs “fundamentally came from this area”? Like there are different sets of ideas intrinsic to that area of Virginia and if he’d spent his summers somewhere else he would have believed completely differently? And which ideas would those be? Perhaps Jefferson’s belief that Jesus was not the son of God and never claimed to be? Or that the gospels were written by a “band of dupes and impostors” and that Paul was “the first great corrupter” of Jesus’ beliefs? Were those beliefs “in the water” in Virginia?

And there’s a bit of irony here as well. As Right Wing Watch points out, Jefferson cut almost all of the Christmas story out of his syllabus, now known as the Jefferson Bible, including the virgin birth, the wise men, and the visit from the angel. If Palin knew anything about the actual history, she’d be screaming about Jefferson having invented the “war on Christmas.”

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  • professorarcana

    I wish we really were doomed to repeat that history, just so that people like Sarah Palin who haven’t learned from it could see how wrong they are…

  • cptdoom

    And this from a woman who mocked her own god by getting knocked up while unmarried, and by allowing her child to raise her bastard grandson.

  • http://www.electricminstrel.com Brett McCoy

    those revisionists, those in the lamestream media, especially, who would want to ignore what our founders actually thought, felt and wrote about in our charters of liberty – well, that’s why I call them the lamestream media

    Ummm…. what?

  • http://howlandbolton.com richardelguru

    I thought Xmas was very unpopular (when not illegal) over here until the mid C19?

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    It’s nice that Jefferson and ancestors of Liberty University thought so much alike. I didn’t know that. I would’ve thought that the latter would’ve torched the former’s farm and tried to run him out of town.

    cptdoom “And this from a woman who mocked her own god by getting knocked up while unmarried, and by allowing her child to raise her bastard grandson.”

    Um. What?

    professorarcana “I wish we really were doomed to repeat that history, just so that people like Sarah Palin who haven’t learned from it could see how wrong they are…”

    But she wouldn’t see that she was wrong. Because Liberals, Socialists, Obama, and RINOs, upon the revolution’s failure must be to blame for that failure.

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    Hah! While I was drafting my comment, Brett McCoy said the same thing the same way cptdoom. There are infinite ways to be dumb, but only one path for genius! (Also: Holy crap. It took me fifteen minutes to write that? Damn you, sausage fingers!)

  • eric

    Seriously, WTF does that mean? She thinks Jefferson’s beliefs “fundamentally came from this area”?

    Meh. Mentioning Jefferson came from the area and that there ‘must be something in the water…’ is just a rhetorical shout-out to the audience. Its the spoken equivalent of a rock star’s “Hellloooo, [City]! We always love performing in [City]!”

    OTOH, hearing a social and economic conservative talk about how we are all supposed to live selflessly is a bit of a hoot. Was that selflessly except for paying taxes? Except for providing healthcare for the poor?

  • howardhershey

    But she, after all, gets her history from David Barton. Probably also ‘forgot’ (aka, is completely ignorant of) the fact that Christmas was relatively inconsequential (relative to today) during Colonial and even later times when the Founders lived. Christmas wasn’t a federal holiday until 1870. And early Congresses did not take a formal recess at Christmas (they were ‘in session’, but typically did not actually ‘sit’ on Christmas Day). The Pilgrims were so anti-Christmas, they made it illegal to even mention St. Nicolas’ name or celebrate Christmas in any manner in Boston in the late 1600s (although this hostility to Christmas was primarily in the churches that were dissenters from the Church of England and the most anti-Papist ones at that; they regarded Christmas as a Roman Catholic innovation, although Christmas was also ‘celebrated’ by Lutherans, Dutch Reformed, and Church of England adherents of the time). Christmas as we know it is primarily an invention of the Victorians, although Washington Irving’s stories had a role in it.

  • plutosdad

    I wish she would say that. “hellooooo Virginia! Must be somethin in the water here, am I right?”

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    eric “Mentioning Jefferson came from the area and that there ‘must be something in the water…’ is just a rhetorical shout-out to the audience. Its the spoken equivalent of a rock star’s ‘Hellloooo, [City]! We always love performing in [City]!'”

    To be fair, I’ve been to a lot of cities all over [State], and [City] is by far the best.

  • colnago80

    Re cptdoom @ #2

    What the fuck are you talking about?

  • http://polrant@blogspot.com democommie

    “Palin Babbles at Liberty University”

    An entirely unremarkable event for her or anyone else there.

  • http://cfiottawa.com Eamon Knight

    FWIW, from the Sarah Palin entry in Wikipedia:

    On August 29, 1988, she eloped at age 24 with her high school sweetheart, Todd Palin.[32] Following the birth of their first child, in April 1989….

    I count no more than eight months there, possibly as little as seven. Make of that what you will.

  • http://cfiottawa.com Eamon Knight

    …however, the second part of cptdoom’s comment is out of line (surely we’ve gotten beyond stigmatizing that, on the head of the child?)

  • http://www.facebook.com/joseph.stricklin josephstricklin

    I just…

    “She told the audience of students that the U.S. Constitution was written by and for moral and religious people, and that nonreligious people probably were incapable of appreciating its principles.”

    – No because fuck you

    “there will be no reason to follow our constitution because it is a moral and religious people who understand that there is something greater than self”

    – I hear purple?

    “those in the lamestream media, especially, who would want to ignore what our founders actually thought, felt and wrote about in our charters of liberty”

    – I don’t give a shit what they thought…some of them fucked slave women on the side. And that the fuck are Charters of Liberty? I must have missed that lesson in wingnut class.

    “Man, there’s something in the water, perhaps, around here – again you are fortunate you get to taste it.”

    -So like bottle that shit?

    “Palin said Jefferson would likely agree that secularists had set their sights on destroying the religious themes in Christmas celebrations.”

    When I am at work…yes. I don’t want to celebrate jebus’s burf.

    “He would recognize those who would want to try to ignore that Jesus is the reason for the season, those who would want to try to abort Christ from Christmas,”

    WRONG! Axial tilt is the reason for the season. And abort Christ? That reminds me. My g/f and I have to go to the clinic today for our yearly murder.

    “They are not the majority of Americans.”

    Neither are you…so what now?

  • Sastra

    “He would recognize those who would want to try to ignore that Jesus is the reason for the season, those who would want to try to abort Christ from Christmas,”

    Wait, I thought Christmas was a national American holiday for the whole country. I thought everybody was supposed to say “Merry Christmas” to everybody else, regardless of what religion they believed in — if any. Who the hell is this “Jesus” character all of a sudden? Jefferson thought he was some guy in history. Maybe.

    I wish they’d make up their minds. Are atheists waging a war on Christmas if they celebrate Christmas and promote it as secular? Or are we waging a war if we let them have it — and keep it to themselves?

    They seem to keep switching.

  • http://www.pandasthumb.org Area Man

    …it is a moral and religious people who understand that there is something greater than self, we are to live selflessly…

    Like, for example, finishing your tenure as a public servant for the greater good of your state, as opposed to going on speaking and book tours in order to make a pile of money. That kind of selflessly?

  • cptdoom

    My point is that Ms. Palin’s deeply held religious beliefs are swept aside the minute it’s convenient for her.

  • colnago80

    Re Eamon Knight @ #13

    It is alleged that Ms. Palin had a one night stand with basketball star

    Glen Rice subsequent to her marriage to Todd Palin.

    http://goo.gl/A0ilYa

  • http://polrant@blogspot.com democommie

    Poor Glen Rice. Or, maybe he’s lucky that he didn’t knock her up.

  • Michael Heath

    colnago80 writes:

    It is alleged that Ms. Palin had a one night stand with basketball star

    Glen Rice subsequent to her marriage to Todd Palin.

    Your own cite contradicts your last claim.

    Only the worst liberals are A-OK with one of their own defaming others.

  • Pierce R. Butler

    I fear that comprehension of Palin’s talk correlates directly with number of years of exposure to Lib U curriculum.

  • lorn

    …”we are to live selflessly”…

    And the first think that comes to mind when I see Palin speak is how absolutely selfless she is.

  • marcus

    “If Palin knew anything about the actual history…”

    Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!

  • M can help you with that.

    Seriously, WTF does that mean? She thinks Jefferson’s beliefs “fundamentally came from this area”?

    It means she’s telegraphing her intent to shove her hand up Jefferson’s ass and use him as a sockpuppet. Figuratively, of course — she’s fairly sure people would be distracted if she did it literally.

  • chilidog99

    I particularly like her use of the term “Lamestream Media,” as if she invented it

    What a shallow, vapid, idiot.

  • http://cfiottawa.com Eamon Knight

    @21: Colnago is wrong on the details, though it actually looks worse. The article claims she had a one-night with Rice a year before she was married, but an extended affair with Todd’s business partner after. This being the NY Daily News (not, to my understanding, the most reputable of sources), I will take both claims with a grain or three of salt.

    The circumstances of her first pregnancy, however, seem somewhat better attested.

  • http://polrant@blogspot.com democommie

    I was thinking, “Palinbabble” could be a demoneologism but realized that it doesn’t really trip off the tongue; Sarahbabble, otoh, WINNING!

    What’s fun, in a “watching them blow up a dead, badly decomposed whale with WAY too much C-4, down at your local scenic beach” sortaway, is asking some SKKKrotalMurKKKanPatriotiKKK Front stalwart what he actually thinks about Ms. Wassillabilly’s policy prescriptions for restoring MurKKKa to its former glory. After some amount of hemming, hawing and scratching various body areas, they will have to resort to “USA! GOD!!GUNZ!!! and STFU, that’s WHY!!!!”.—ymmv on this.

  • caseloweraz

    She seemed to imply that Jefferson, who spent his summers at a home not far from the present-day site of Liberty University, may have been inspired by the religious college founded in 1971 by televangelist Jerry Falwell.

    Yes, she did. And by extension the fact that Jefferson spent his autumns and winters elsewhere (Washington, DC? Europe?) would mean that he was then inspired by other ideas. Which she conveniently overlooks.

  • http://www.holytape.etsy.com holytape

    If you run the last part of the first quote through google translator English->latin->Zulu->Greek->German->English.

    “especially since they really do not know what you wrote freely on the tables – and this is it”

  • jnorris

    caseloweraz at #29, I agree and I am interested on what Half-Governor Palin thinks Mr Jefferson absorbed from the College of William and Mary.

  • Abby Normal

    Didn’t Palin say the other day that the Pilgrims were our founders? Is she unaware that they outlawed the celebration of Christmas? Anyone caught shirking work was fined a hefty sum of 5 shillings.