OMG! Obama Didn’t Go to Church on Christmas!

The right wing blogosphere has fired up the faux-outrage machine once again, the latest target being the fact that President Obama and his family did not go to church on Christmas day. What did he do instead? Met with and talked to members of the military in Hawaii, where he is vacationing, and around the world. Glenn Beck’s The Blaze was all over it:

CAN YOU GUESS WHAT KEY THING OBAMA DID NOT DO ON CHRISTMAS DAY?

President Barack Obama and his family failed to do one thing on Christmas that many might view as integral to the Christian holiday — they didn’t go to church.

Yes, he failed to do what we think he should do!

Breitbart jumped on it. So did CNSNews (formerly the Christian News Service). And the Moonie Times. And the Christian Post. As usual, it’s the comment sections that reveal just how deep the right wing hatred for Obama goes.

JugEars should be excused. In his haste to leave town, he forgot to pack his prayer rug…

He has no “prayer rug.” With his signet ring, he needs not take on such risky endeavors as actually bowing to the East five times a day. He and his god Allah have worked this out. As long as he wears the ring and advances Islam, it’s all good… He keeps the kingdom given him…

The only “shovel ready jobs” we can ever expect from obama will be to bury our dead that he personally murdered with his DEATH PANELS AND HIS OBAMACARE. Obama is well on the way to becoming a mass murderer as bad as any in the entire history of the world. ONLY OUR 2ND AMENDMENT IS PREVENTING THIS!

*headdesk*

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  • Chiroptera

    ONLY OUR 2ND AMENDMENT IS PREVENTING THIS!

    Yeah, those dozens of teapartiers that show up in DC to protest every now and then must really be reminding Obama that he needs to be careful!

  • sinned34

    Obama didn’t go to church on Christmas, which proves he’s not a Christian.

    He also didn’t go to mosque during Ramadan, but that doesn’t prove he’s not a Muslim.

  • Alverant

    I wonder how many christian conservatives skipped church last week.

  • http://zenoferox.blogspot.com/ Zeno

    Yeah, I can still remember how outraged the right wingers were at Reagan’s indifferent church attendance. They are awesome in their consistency.

  • coragyps

    I wonder if Mr Beck can prove that he went to church on Christmas? We’d need the long-form certificate signed by his bishop and witnessed by two bicycle-riding missionaries to be sure.

  • matty1

    Mr Beck attends a heretic imitation of a true Christian church so even if he was there on December 25th it wouldn’t count.

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    And if he had gone, one of the talking points would be that he did not go and talk with members of the military (“Obama travels all that way on our tax dollar simply to disrespect our fighting men and women!”).

  • dingojack

    Guess what –

    “Church attendance in developed countries has gradually declined. Research has attributed this decline to boredom during services, incompatibility of belief systems and lack of motivation.[17] One study published in the Journal of the Scientific Study of Religion, however, argues that at least in America, church attendance since the 1990s has remained stable at 25%.[18] A Gallup poll found that church attendance among Protestants has remained stable at roughly 45% since 1955, while church attendance among Catholics has dropped from 75% to 45%, although it has remained stable since 1995, despite negative stories in the news.[19] Another Gallup poll found a slight increase in church attendance over the past two years; associating this with an aging population.[20] This decline is particularly pronounced in European countries, where it is suggested that the secular culture overrides interest in religion”.

    So despite ca. 76% calling themselves Christians only about 45% actually go to church (presumably this is also true of Christmas services).

    And the Fox News Faux outrage over them missing church services? Missing in action.

    Dingo

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    Source FoAW

    Notes:

    17. http://web.archive.org/web/20100801010204/http://www.cra.org.au/pages/00000242.cgi

    18. http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2007/novemberweb-only/145-42.0.html

    19. http://www.gallup.com/poll/117382/church-going-among-catholics-slides-tie-protestants.aspx

    20. http://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/family/item/602-more-americans-are-going-to-church

  • pocketnerd

    “Death panels! Muslim signet ring! HE’S A-COMIN’ FER YER GUNS!”

    It’s kinda depressing that — no matter how blatantly false or ridiculous — these ideas live forever in the reactionary memosphere. A few months ago a coworker mentioned “that time when a bunch of black gangbangers attacked a woman and carved a B on her face to terrorize her into voting for Obama.”

  • http://Reallyawakeguy.blogspot.com somnus

    It’s all just window dressing on what they’re really outraged about: him being president in the first place.

  • Michael Heath

    I don’t know of any protestants whose churches hold Christmas day church services; unless Christmas is on a Sunday. They hold Christmas Eve services, but not Christmas Day.

    I went to the Congregationals church’s Christmas Eve service in order that my 96 year-old grandma could attend; these are the Christians who Ed claims aren’t real Christians; where I find them to be far more faithful in how to treat others the way proscribed by the Jesus character in the Bible.

    So I doubt hardly any protestant Christians attended church on the 25th. A fact-checker should check on whether the Obama family attended a Christmas church service prior to the 25th. I checked my RSS feeds and it appears Politifact, Media Matters, and the WaPo site are mostly out for the holidays, and hadn’t covered this topic.

  • dingojack

    Michael H – I posted (still held in moderation) that about 45% of Protestants and Catholics attend church regularly – I guess Christmas would be largely the same.

    Where is the RW outrage at the bulk of so called Christians (like themselves)? MIA, as usual.

    Dingo

  • matty1

    I have nothing to back this up but personal experience but I think those Christians who attend church irregularly are more likely to do so on a major religious holiday like Christmas than at other times. While not the same it is similar to wanting a church wedding even if not a regular attender. There is a set of people for whom religion is what they turn to at “important times” but not otherwise and I suspect they are more common than those whose irregular attendance is completely random with regards to what is happening at the church.

  • colnago80

    Re Michael Heath @ #10

    I went to the Congregationals church’s Christmas Eve service in order that my 96 year-old grandma could attend; these are the Christians who Ed claims aren’t real Christians; where I find them to be far more faithful in how to treat others the way proscribed by the Jesus character in the Bible.

    Brayton can speak for himself but I don’t think that he ever made a statement that Congregationalists, as a group, aren’t true Christians. I think his position is that someone who rejects the Virgin Birth, the miracle tales in the scriptures, the Resurrection, and the divinity of Yeshua ben Yusef of Nazareth (like Thomas Jefferson) is not a believing Christian.

  • acroyear

    The vast vast majority of people don’t attend church on Christmas Day. That is a time for family. Most churches offer a Christmas Day service (I’ve yet to know an Episcopal church that doesn’t), but it is usually very empty compared to the Christmas Eve services the night before which tend to be very crowded.

    As for ANY church attendance, on a Christmas Eve which is, as I said, one of the most crowded days of the year, that would be a security nightmare. If he attended that, they’d be all over the abuse done by the secret service interrupting and disrupting the REAL worshipers so Obama could make a photo op.

  • Michael Heath

    acroyear writes:

    Most churches offer a Christmas Day service (I’ve yet to know an Episcopal church that doesn’t)

    As I stated, I don’t know any protestant denominations that do, unless Christmas happens to fall on a Sunday. I claim ignorance on Episcopalians but am aware of the activities of conservative Christian denominations. They do offer Christmas Eve services regardless of what day that falls on for a particular year.

  • Matrim

    I was just listening to a podcast detailing the war on Christmas; by which I, of course, mean when Puritans seized control of parliament following the execution of Charles I in the 1600s and tried to outlaw the celebration of Christmas, seeing it as a heretical pagan amalgamation celebrated by those Godless Catholics.

  • matty1

    I would probably count going on Christmas eve as going at Christmas so we may be talking past each other.

    Anyway isn’t Obama in the habit of inviting pastors to give a private service for his family specifically to avoid imposing extra security on a church congregation?

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    matty1 “Anyway isn’t Obama in the habit of inviting pastors to give a private service for his family specifically to avoid imposing extra security on a church congregation?”

    Sure, but that’s just so the People don’t see his imam!

  • http://polrant@blogspot.com democommie

    “OMG! Obama Didn’t Go to Church on Christmas!”

    There are many policies and actions of this president, this administration and the bootlickin’ commies of the leftist congress* that steam my cojones but I stand in solidaridness on this one. Why anyone would want to celebrate Baby JESUS ritual mutilation of his manparts is unfatdumbable to me.

    You know what else, also, too? How do they know that Obamandingo doesn’t follow the edict to pray in his innermost room? Huh, so what’s your answer to that, Mr. sMarty(r)pants KKKristian?? I’ll bet you Drachma to donkeys that he’s doin’ zackly that–five times a day, facing east and invoking BeAllahzebub’s name.

    Side note to Ed (Eyes only):

    Do you know why Dave KKKumstaine hasn’t put together a new band? I wish he would; I’ve been sitin’ on its name** for a while now and, well, I could use the cash,

    * The Nazis WERE socialists, y’know!

    ** It’s really quite clever of me, I think. Meccadeth(c)(TM)(Sm) democommie ministries and media, LLC, LSD & PCP–Not to be confused with democommie media and ministries, PCP, LSD & LaLaLa.–I know, it’s a little bit derivative but, hey, “Metallica” then “Megadeth”, who the fucks kiddin’ who?

  • Scr… Archivist

    In early December of 2013, there was a survey about Christmas plans that was conducted by the Pew Research Center’s Religion and Public Life Project. You can see the results here: http://www.pewforum.org/2013/12/18/celebrating-christmas-and-the-holidays-then-and-now/

    To answer specific questions from above…

    Alverant @3:

    Pew reports, “Among religious groups, three-quarters of Catholics (76%) and seven-in-ten white evangelical Protestants (71%) plan to attend Christmas religious services this year, as do two-thirds of black Protestants (65%).” One question I have about these statements of intention is that people may not follow through, and some might even lie to seem like good people to the person on the other end of the line.

    A few years ago, Pew looked into the political and social attitudes of major religious traditions in the U.S. You may be able to figure out an answer to your specific question with the statistics there about whether people identify as conservative, moderate, or liberal. Note that this is self-identification. A white evengelical Christian who thinks they are a moderate might be a conservative by a more-objective assessment, so I would be careful about what conclusions you draw.

    http://religions.pewforum.org/comparisons#

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    matty1 @12 and acroyear @14:

    The links above should answer your questions, as well. The “comparisons” page has a section on “Beliefs and Practices”, which has a breakdown by group for “Frequency of Attendance at Religious Services”.

    Pew’s 2013 survey found that 54% of Americans planned to attend religious services for Christmas that year, but it doesn’t seem to make any distinction between Christmas Eve and Christmas Day.

    Interestingly, a footnote at the bottom of the page notes that Latin American traditions of celebrating January 6 may have affected Latin@s’ responses to whether Christmas is a religious or cultural holiday. Slightly more than half said it was religious, which may seem odd at first. “Hispanic respondents may have been indicating in their answers to this question that the large-scale celebration centered on Christmas Day is more characteristic of U.S. culture than of Latin American culture.” So, there is another difference in how this season is celebrated and which day “counts” for the Far Right. It will be interesting to see what the reaction will be if a Latino President goes to church for Three Kings Day instead of Santa Claus Day.

    Happy New Year, everyone.

  • Michael Heath

    matty1 writes:

    I would probably count going on Christmas eve as going at Christmas so we may be talking past each other.

    The racists going on about this include ones beyond the group Ed reports on here. They’re all criticizing the president for not attending church on Christmas day. That’s why it’s imperative we distinguish the difference between Christmas day and Christmas eve.

  • Michael Heath

    Scr… Archivist writes:

    Pew reports, “Among religious groups, three-quarters of Catholics (76%) and seven-in-ten white evangelical Protestants (71%) plan to attend Christmas religious services this year, as do two-thirds of black Protestants (65%).”

    The president isn’t being criticized on whether he attended a Christmas service or not, but instead whether he attended one on Christmas day. I realize you knew this, I just think it’s important to emphasize how this information is different than what the president is being criticized about.

  • http://drx.typepad.com Dr X

    So in Wingnuttia, not allowed to kill the president = Christian persecution.

  • http://timgueguen.blogspot.com timgueguen

    These idiots who think the Second Amendment would protect them from oppression by the supposed dictator in waiting Obama should read about the Warsaw uprising of 1944. A mass uprising by people armed with handguns and rifles is doomed to fail when it faces armored vehicles and artillery, along with trained and properly commanded soldiers. Of course I’m sure some of them would come up with some racist nonsense that it failed because it didn’t involve lantern jawed Americans raised on the heroics of John Wayne.

  • dingojack

    timgueguen – and then there’s the inconvenient fact that worldwide the local level of gun control shows little or no correlation to the intrusiveness of that local government in to its citizens lives. That Is, have as many (or as few) guns as is legal, it won’t stop ‘the evul gubberment’ one little bit (that’s not was the 2nd amendment was meant to do).

    Dingo

  • Christoph Burschka

    @2

    Obama didn’t go to church on Christmas, which proves he’s not a Christian.

    He also didn’t go to mosque during Ramadan, but that doesn’t prove he’s not a Muslim.

    That “prayer rug” argument went more like this:

    Obama didn’t go to church on Christmas, which proves he’s not a Christian.

    He also didn’t go to mosque during Ramadan, which proves he’s a SECRET Muslim.

  • StevoR : Free West Papua, free Tibet, let the Chagossians return!

    Sorta, maybe semi-off topic but want to say anyway :

    Saw this powerful, moving ultimately uplifting if bittersweet doco on New Years Day ‘Soundtrack For A Revolution’ – started watching, couldn’t stop and it sure made me think :

    www. (aussie) abc net.au / tv / programs / soundtrack- for – a – revolution/

    (Hyperlink disabled because moderation and not sure if allowed and stuff.)

    The story of the American civil rights movement in the 1950s and 60s. A pivotal piece in history with interviews and live performances from contemporary artists including John Legend, Joss Stone and Wyclef Jean.

    Y’all can watch it here :

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJHP989OJPc

    Y’know it seems so obvious now segregation~wise, denying the humanity and being so stupidly cruel to folks who’ve done NOTHING to deserve it.

    America had its Nelson Mandela analogue figure. They killed him.

    MLK would have made one hell’uva good President (& much more) had he lived.

    And this all happened really not so long ago. Generation or three.

    But at least a lot of the details, I (ignorant Aussie) did not know, (not so much, not like this), and so, *so* many still don’t and who knows if they ever will.

    What will we here today look back upon with equal horror at how obvious the injustice and unfairness was?

    What already does and will even more?

    We are getting better?

    Aren’t we?

  • StevoR : Free West Papua, free Tibet, let the Chagossians return!

    PS. Its one thing to know in abstract, facts and single lines of history that’s history and debated and background, another to really see and hear and think if, yeah, y’all grok it? Maybe?

  • StevoR : Free West Papua, free Tibet, let the Chagossians return!

    Some shit I said before.

    I’m sorry I said it now.

  • matty1

    Michael Heath, you are absolutely right. I was off on a tangent triggered by Dingo’s comment that “about 45% of Protestants and Catholics attend church regularly – I guess Christmas would be largely the same

    My argument was that people who attend church irregularly will not do so at random but at major religious events like Christmas and the Pew figures seem to support this, with the caveat that people may not follow through.

    However this tangent is irrelevant to the original point about how absurd the criticism of Obama is so I will accept I should have let it go.

  • dingojack

    Matty – the Pew study seems to indicate that a certain percentage of people SAY they go to church, as opposed to the studies that I (or rather the FoAW) cited which measured the percentage of people who ACTUAL,LY go to church. Other studies show over-reporting of church attendance in self-identifying subjects. I’d say my estimate is probably closer to being correct (although I agree too low for Christmas and Easter services).

    Dingo

  • Childermass

    Has anyone checked to see if the people doing the outrage have themselves attended Christmas service. Maybe the reason they don’t know that most churches don’t have services on December 25 is that they don’t really attend themselves.