Pratt, Duke Discuss Race

The absolutely deranged con man and conspiracy theorist Larry Pratt, head of Gun Owners of America, and Selwyn Duke, a columnist for the badly misnamed American Thinker website, got together on a radio show to talk about race in America. Let’s just say it didn’t go well.

The two started off by discussing a column in which Duke hypothesizes that President Obama may be “creating a martial law ready military” by “promoting minorities and women — and, I believe, homosexuals and lesbians — at the expense of white men.”

“I’m not saying there’s anything nefarious going on here for sure,” Duke told Pratt. But, he said, if you “wanted to have the military on your side…you would do it by implementing the exact same policies that Barack Obama has been implementing.” Pratt added his pet conspiracy theory that the president is “building up a civilian defense force, not for defending the country but defending the president.”

Later in the program, Duke twisted Neera Tanden’s remark that the president “doesn’t like people” – by which she meant he is a “private person” – to claim that the president is a “misanthrope.”

“You know what kinds of leaders didn’t like people?” he mused. “People like Joseph Stalin. People like Ivan the Terrible,” adding, “I’m reminded of Hitler here.”

Mr. Godwin, call your office.

The two moved on to talking about what they perceive as the differences between Africans and African Americans, which, as you can probably imagine, went great.

“Generally, the African from Africa is a very pro-American person, a very happy person,” Pratt said. “I know several, and they’re always happy with a joke, a pleasant smile on their face, and they clearly don’t identify with the surliness that’s all too frequently the attitude of their fellow African Americans here.”

Duke responded by informing Pratt that that may be true but “the Africans who come here in the first place, I would say, tend to be of a better stripe.”

*headdesk*

The two also touched on the issue of apartheid in South Africa, which both claimed wasn’t all that bad. Pratt lamented that Dutch and English settlers “neglected to evangelize the blacks,” so that now “there aren’t common values, there is certainly no Christian ethos in that country.”

Duke, for his part, equated the “supposedly racist” apartheid regime with George Zimmerman. “South Africa was sort of the George Zimmerman of the geopolitical stage,” he said. “It was a situation where you had black on black crimes that were rampant and brutal that the media ignored, but this white-on-black so-called crime was disseminated far and wide…simply because it accorded with the politically correct agenda.”

Oh yes, the “supposedly” racist apartheid with its “so-called crime” against blacks. But nah, the far right isn’t racist or anything.

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  • Sastra

    “I know several, and they’re always happy with a joke, a pleasant smile on their face, and they clearly don’t identify with the surliness that’s all too frequently the attitude of their fellow African Americans here.”

    Nope, no racism. Not at all.

    Now I am feeling surly.

  • matty1

    homosexuals and lesbians — at the expense of white men

    Who knew all gay men were non white?

  • http://www.facebook.com/den.wilson d.c.wilson

    Duke responded by informing Pratt that that may be true but “the Africans who come here in the first place, I would say, tend to be of a better stripe.”

    You have to wonder if these guys ever pause to think before they speak.

  • NitricAcid

    Matty- I’m sure that the wingnuts don’t count them as men.

  • noastronomer

    “… there is certainly no Christian ethos in that country.”

    Archbishop Tutu please pickup the white courtesy phone.

    Mike.

  • http://howlandbolton.com richardelguru

    “Ivan the Terrible” I believe he quite liked people….

     

     

     

               ….much of the time…

  • arakasi

    “I know several, and they’re always happy with a joke, a pleasant smile on their face,

    Did he ask them to sing “De Camptown Ladies” ?

  • eric

    Pratt lamented that Dutch and English settlers “neglected to evangelize the blacks,” so that now “there aren’t common values, there is certainly no Christian ethos in that country.”

    Amusing anecdote; a family member of mine worked in Namibia for a few years. One of the biggest complaints of the locals towards foreign missionary efforts was that they kept sending people to convert them, over and over again, when they had been Christian for well over a century.

    This is also a subtle form of racism: show an evangelical a picture of a black-skinned person in a loincloth, traditional african clothing, or living in a rude village, and they automatically think “heathen.”

    .

  • http://artk.typepad.com ArtK

    “Generally, the African from Africa is a very pro-American person, a very happy person,” Pratt said. “I know several, and they’re always happy with a joke, a pleasant smile on their face, and they clearly don’t identify with the surliness that’s all too frequently the attitude of their fellow African Americans here.”

    I’m impressed. He managed to avoid the word “uppity.”

  • briandavis

    Is apartheid far enough in the past now that we can look forward to apartheid deniers?

  • theguy

    “Pratt lamented that Dutch and English settlers “neglected to evangelize the blacks,” so that now “there aren’t common values, there is certainly no Christian ethos in that country.””

    Here’s what I found after 5 minutes on Wikipedia:

    “According to the 2001 census, Christians accounted for 79.8% of the population.”

    “The African Traditional Religion of the Khoisan and Bantu speakers during apartheid were succeeded in predominance by Christianity introduced by the Dutch and later British settlers. During apartheid there was sustained persecution of African Traditional Religion and forced conversions during that era.”

    Research, motherfucker! Do you speak it!

  • coffeehound

    The two also touched on the issue of apartheid in South Africa, which both claimed wasn’t all that bad.

    I’d love to see them try to float this one by a previously described “happy smiley” African to get their feedback.

  • http://timgueguen.blogspot.com timgueguen

    It’s surprising they didn’t use the term pickaninny.

    Of course the fundies have to go evangelise in Africa. How else are the Africans supposed to accept real Christianity, not those fake versions like Methodism and Catholicism?

  • wayneturner

    “there is certainly no Christian ethos in that country.”

    Aside from being wrong, as theguy pointed out, presumably the only acceptable ‘Christian’ ethos would be that demonstrated by Uganda or Nigeria.

  • smrnda

    The president is assembling an army of women, minorities, lesbians and homosexuals to protect *the president* and not *the country* and white men are excluded.

    It isn’t a proper syllogism, but this seems to imply that the only real Americans are white men?

  • http://polrant@blogspot.com democommie

    ““I know several, and they’re always happy with a joke, a pleasant smile on their face, and they clearly don’t identify with the surliness that’s all too frequently the attitude of their fellow African Americans here.”

    And they’d be even happier if they could just have some watermelon and fried chicken.

  • comfychair

    Well, clearly, if the African-Africans were REAL Christians (and not Fake Christians, just pretending in order to fool the good-hearted missionaries so they can keep getting the free handouts of bags of rice or whatever), God would have blessed them with lighter skin by now, wouldn’t He? I mean, that’s just logic.

    xD

  • dingojack

    “The two started off by discussing a column in which Duke hypothesizes that President Obama may be “creating a martial law ready military” by “promoting minorities and women — and, I believe, homosexuals and lesbians — at the expense of white men.”

    What just like Presidents Kennedy, Johnson and Nixon did by sending a disproportionate number of African-Americans to Vietnam, you mean David?

    Dingo

  • dan4

    @18: Uh, who is “David?”

  • dingojack

    Dan – Selwyn’s less evil twin brother? :)

    Dingo

    ——–

    I meant, of course, Selwyn (moral of the story: don’t type in haste).

  • http://polrant@blogspot.com democommie

    Larry Pratt:

    I’m thinkin’ that you’re one good idea away from gunzloonz heroicalness and a beautiful, shiny Darwin Award. That idea involves one of your favorite double-action handcannonz, your head, a beer/cocktail and the immortal words:

    “Hold my drink and watch this.”.

  • http://timgueguen.blogspot.com timgueguen

    The only Africans Pratt likely knows are immigrants working in the service industry, like the guy at whatever convenience story he buys his morning coffee from. That guy probably has zero clue who Pratt is and what he believes in, and would probably find the gun fondler’s beliefs disturbing.

  • StevoR : Free West Papua, free Tibet, let the Chagossians return!

    @13. timgueguen : It’s surprising they didn’t use the term pickaninny.

    I thought that word referred only to Australian Indigenous women /children thus it wouldn’t be surprising but I could be wrong.

  • dingojack

    Stevo – that what I thought too but:

    pick·a·nin·ny [pik-uh-nin-ee]

    noun, plural pick·a·nin·nies. Offensive.

    a black child.

    Also, picaninny, piccaninny.

    ——————————————————————————–

    Origin:

    1645–55; probably ultimately < Portuguese pequenino, diminutive of pequeno small; as a word for “small child,” pickaninny and its variants are widespread in English-based creoles of the New World and West Africa; compare Jamaican English pickney, West African English pickin small child

    From dictionary.com

    Dingo