Wingnuts Hate Being Quoted. Again.

Here’s yet another example of a wingnut who absolutely hates being quoted verbatim because that makes them look bad. Retired Maj. General Paul Vallely, after making repeated statements in favor of removing Obama from office by a coup, has released a furious statement about being called out for it:

Statements on the web and elsewhere that attribute me as supporting a coup are absolutely false. From the day I took my oath as a young Army lieutenant to this very day I have supported and defended the Constitution of the United States.

A coup is counter to the guiding principles laid out there. Disagreement and dissension are not! It’s time for change in America and I support that change – but only in a lawful, Constitutional manner.” – MG Paul E. Vallely (US Army-Ret.)

But as Right Wing Watch documents with audio, Vallely has repeatedly called for “extralegal and unconstitutional means to remove the president from office” and said that he would lead the coup himself if he had 250,000 troops. That is a coup by any definition.

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  • http://timgueguen.blogspot.com timgueguen

    Of course he’s not calling for a coup! That’s one of them furrin words! As a True American Patriot(tm) he’s calling for an overthrow. Totally different process.

  • http://denkeensechtna.blogspot.com Deen

    Sometimes it’s like it hasn’t really dawned on certain people yet that there is such a thing as audio and video recording. Or an internet that allows you to retrieve said recordings almost instantly.

  • http://www.ponychan.net/chan/dis/ Brony

    He probably does not see it as a coup, but as “rescuing America” or “returning America to Americans” or some other garbage. Possibly for it to be a coup in their minds they imagine that since it’s legitimate it can’t used with a “bad word” like that (even though it objectively describes something that could be good or bad).

  • StevoR : Free West Papua, free Tibet, let the Chagossians return!

    Of course, the key part is :

    .. if he had 250,000 troops ..

    (Emphasis added.)

    Which o’course he doesn’t have – so he’s all clearly piss and wind and thatwas obvious for him and everyone else so that means that calling for a coup against his Commander-In-Chief and a military takeover of the whole nation is thus just hunky dory right?

    Right?

    What’s that? It still counts as treason does it?

    D’oh!

    And, urm, why hasn’t this dropkick being arrested and jailed for that yet, btw?

  • http://www.gregory-gadow.net Gregory in Seattle

    @Brony #3 – Pretty much every seditionist holds the same view, that overthrowing the government is patriotic.

  • dingojack

    Brony –

    ‘Treason never prospers, and what’s the reason?

    If it prospers none dare call it treason.’

    Dingo

  • http://www.facebook.com/den.wilson d.c.wilson

    It’s only treason if you’re unsuccessful in overthrowing the government.

  • Artor

    Aren’t retired officers still under military discipline? Shouldn’t the Army revoke this asshat’s pension for violating his oath of service?

  • anubisprime

    Cockroaches run for the foetid shadows when they get a light shone on their shenanigans!

    The cretins have absolutely no idea how the internet actually works do they?

  • raven

    ‘Treason never prospers, and what’s the reason?

    If it prospers none dare call it treason.’

    What the British call colonial rebels, we call the founding fathers of the USA.

  • abb3w

    @8, Artor

    Aren’t retired officers still under military discipline?

    From what I’ve been reading, if a retired officer is still receiving a pension, they are still at least in theory subject to court martial for violations of the UCMJ (per its article 2); but in practice these days DOD Directive 1352.1 apparently prohibits recalling them to duty for ONLY that reason.

    Thus in theory, if the Secretary of Defense actually considered there to be a serious national defense threat from such plot, he might decide it amusing to recall Vallely as the person best placed to put down the mutiny per DOD-D op cit at 4.3.5 — and then court martial Vallely afterward. However, were the threat serious, arrest and trial as a civilian for treason seems likely a more expeditious approach. Alternately, if there is ever any national emergency that involves significant numbers of military officers being recalled, Vallely now risks being recalled for incidental reasons and then pulled aside from the queue of recall-ees to be court martialed. This again seems unlikely.

  • dingojack

    No doubt Gen. ‘Death’ Vallely will claim he was ‘taken out of context’, fundie-speak for ‘Did I say that out loud?!? Oopsie!’

    Dingo

  • caseloweraz

    The general may have a point; he might have been saying that Obama should be removed from office in a coupe. No doubt he’d prefer it to be a large, cream-colored coupe. With tinted windows.

    /snark

    BTW: It’s too bad for the general that “www.standupamerica” (com, net, and org) were already taken. (Although those domains seem to be “parked” and possibly available for the right price.) Then there is “stand-upamerica dot com” whose entirely laudable mission seems to be to get Americans off their asses and onto bicycles, or otherwise physically active.

  • caseloweraz

    Gen. Vallely’s home page racks up 40 errors and 2 warnings as HTML5.

    Of course, any Web site that presents Donna Fiducia can’t be all bad. She looks a little like Petula Clark. However, I expect her political views are close to 180 out from those of the popular English singer.

  • eric

    @5:

    What’s that? It still counts as treason does it?

    D’oh!

    Well, that depends on whether the DOJ and USSS consider you to be serious or just a blowhard.

    I bet Vallely’s real issue with being “outed” is that it makes him look comical, not that it makes him look treasonous. He doesn’t care if he looks treasonous against Obama – heck, that’s a selling point if he wants to go in to politics on the right. He does care that it makes him look like a bombastic fool. In a closed room talking to “real patriots,” this stuff may sound intimidating and exicting. Air it out in the open media, and it just sounds overwrought.

  • vmanis1

    Those who have seen `The Russians are Coming, The Russians are Coming’ will remember Fendall Hawkins, played by Paul Ford. Hawkins was a retired military person who always wore a uniform of sorts, and carried a memorial sword, bestowed by the local Legion. Hawkins is a blustery old fellow who is always eager to blow anything up into World War 3, and one of the most shocking moments of his life occurs when the local sherriff (Brian Keith) grabs the sword and breaks it over his knee. At the end of the movie, when a flotilla of small boats accompanies the Russian submarine back into the Atlantic, Hawkins is permitted to ride along, in a dinghy towed by one of the other boats.

    I’d describe Vallely as a Fendall Hawkins wannabe.

    Recalling this movie now makes me remember the days when Soviet Russia was feared and admired, and not at all considered a tinpot dictatorship run by crooks and bigots. (Well, it was that, to some extent, but we didn’t know it :).

  • freehand

    Brony: He probably does not see it as a coup, but as “rescuing America” or “returning America to Americans” or some other garbage. Possibly for it to be a coup in their minds they imagine that since it’s legitimate it can’t used with a “bad word” like that (even though it objectively describes something that could be good or bad).

    I have met many folks over the years who, holding a cup of coffee in one hand and a pack of cigarettes in their pocket, assured me that they did not and never would use drugs.

  • http://onhandcomments.blogspot.com/ left0ver1under

    Given that Vallely and other seditionists are engaging in a circle jerk, I present this:

    http://youtu.be/CJjuVzZQj0U

  • dingojack

    left0ver1under – how do you imbed video?

    Dingo