Cruz on Obama’s ‘Attacks’ on ‘Traditional Marriage’

Sen. Ted Cruz has been making the rounds of the right wing fever swamps over the last few days, one far-right radio talk show after another. On Monday he was on David Barton’s Wallbuilders Live show spouting blatantly dishonest spin about Obama and marriage equality.

One of the really sad trends we’ve seen in recent years has been a concerted attack on traditional marriage and that attack has manifested in the courts of law as advocacy groups have used litigation to tear down the marriage laws of states across this country. But it’s also manifested from the federal government, with the Obama administration; this administration is the most hostile to traditional marriage administration this country has ever seen.

I’m baffled by the idea that supporting same-sex marriage is “hostile to traditional marriage.” When a gay couple gets married, are they showing hostility toward straight couples that get married? Of course not. It’s just such a dishonest way to frame the situation. Gay marriage does absolutely nothing to straight marriage. It has no effect whatsoever on it.

The Obama administration came into Utah and said ‘we’re not going to listen to what the US Supreme Court said. We, the federal government, are going to recognize marriages in the state of Utah and Utah state law explicitly does not recognize as marriage’ and that was really, in my view, an abuse of power, using the federal government to try to force what the ultimate objective is of these advocates and their objective is to see traditional marriage laws torn down in all fifty states.

Oh, rubbish. The DOJ said that the federal government would recognize for federal purposes those same-sex marriages that were performed in Utah when they were legally recognized. Those marriages have not been voided by the courts. The Obama administration is, in fact, following the decision in Windsor, which requires federal recognition of legally recognized same-sex marriages by the federal government, to the letter.

I’m often willing to chalk up things like this to ignorance, but Ted Cruz is an absolutely brilliant legal scholar. He’s just plain lying. And he knows it.

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  • eric

    advocacy groups have used litigation to tear down the marriage laws of states across this country.

    Technically they’ve been tearing down anti-marriage laws. The laws conservatives like you promote, Cruz, stop people from marrying. That makes them anti-marriage laws.

  • http://www.facebook.com/set.v.kouwenhoven Set Kouwenhoven

    Is he absolutely brilliant? Others have said so as well. I would sincerely, honestly like to know what it is about his legal scholarship that’s supposed to be brilliant.

  • Alverant

    Conversely does every straight couple who gets married showing hostility to homosexuals?

  • rpjohnston

    Gay marriage does absolutely nothing to straight marriage. It has no effect whatsoever on it.

    is too kind a way to frame it.

    When someone makes an argument like this they are saying that their “traditional marriage” is based on the exclusion of others; that their marriage derives meaning from enforcing the misery of others. Cruz is saying that his marriage suffers when other people are not made to suffer.

    Gay marriage ABSOLUTELY destroys this form of “traditional marriage”. And people need to understand this. When they claim to be in favor of “traditional marriage”, they need to understand that they are basing their marriage on the persecution of others. Instead of telling them weakly and defensively “No, gay marriage won’t affect your marriage” they should be told “If your marriage suffers then you are basing it on hatred”. Don’t let them weasel out of that fact.

  • http://www.thelosersleague.com theschwa

    “Gay marriage does absolutely nothing to straight marriage. It has no effect whatsoever on it.”

    Ed, you are so wrong! My heterosexual female wife and I got straight married in 2009. Last month, a neighbor of ours got gay married to his “spouse”. Well, Ohio did not have enough marriage to cover them, so the feds intervened and sent 2 agents from the Federal Marriage Agency to our house to seize our marriage license. We were told that we were not entitled to due process and this was not a 5th amendment taking. So now our straight marriage is very much harmed by so-called gay “””marriage”””!!

    Thanks, Obama!!

    (The extra scare quotes are to show truly scary gay marriage is!)

  • http://cheapsignals.blogspot.com Gretchen

    Ted Cruz in 1958:

    One of the really sad trends we’ve seen in recent years has been a concerted attack on traditional restaurant dining and that attack has manifested in the courts of law as advocacy groups have used litigation to tear down the restaurant laws of states across this country. But it’s also manifested from the federal government, with the Eisenhower administration; this administration is the most hostile to traditional restaurant dining administration this country has ever seen.

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    Alverant “Conversely does every straight couple who gets married showing hostility to homosexuals?”

    Ideally, yes.

     

    theschwa “Ed, you are so wrong! My heterosexual female wife and I got straight married in 2009. Last month, a neighbor of ours got gay married to his “spouse”. Well, Ohio did not have enough marriage to cover them, so the feds intervened…”

    It’s worse than that, up here in the country where I am. The jackbooted government thugs here split up our Traditional marriage®, force us to convert to homosexualism and then pairs us up and “marries” us off in a big gay raffle.

    Did I say “worse”? I meant “awesome”. The big gay raffle is followed by a big gay parade. And brunch, which is like lunch except it’s okay to drink.

  • Anthony K
    Gay marriage does absolutely nothing to straight marriage. It has no effect whatsoever on it.

    is too kind a way to frame it.

    When someone makes an argument like this they are saying that their “traditional marriage” is based on the exclusion of others; that their marriage derives meaning from enforcing the misery of others. Cruz is saying that his marriage suffers when other people are not made to suffer.

    Gay marriage ABSOLUTELY destroys this form of “traditional marriage”. And people need to understand this. When they claim to be in favor of “traditional marriage”, they need to understand that they are basing their marriage on the persecution of others. Instead of telling them weakly and defensively “No, gay marriage won’t affect your marriage” they should be told “If your marriage suffers then you are basing it on hatred”. Don’t let them weasel out of that fact.

    Very well put, rpjohnston.

  • Doc Bill

    Cruz as a “brilliant legal scholar” is just as ridiculous as “Charlie bit my finger” is the greatest YouTube video ever.

    The only thing Cruz is brilliant at is shameless self-promotion. He doesn’t care about anything other than his own ambition.

  • colnago80

    Re Doc Bill @ #9

    Cruz is a brilliant sociopath who can lie with a straight face for the rubes.

  • eric

    @4:

    When someone makes an argument like this they are saying that their “traditional marriage” is based on the exclusion of others; that their marriage derives meaning from enforcing the misery of others. Cruz is saying that his marriage suffers when other people are not made to suffer.

    That’s a fairly rational consequence of what they are saying, but I doubt very much that most ‘tradititional marriage defenders’ would agree to that if you explicitly stated it that way. I think the vast, vast majority of people who resist the notion of SSM are doing the same thing on this issue that they’ve been doing with gay rights for the last 30-40 years – resisting based on nothing more than a feeling. Ick factor + fear of change.

    Its the old difference between incompetence and maliciousness. And it matters, because we can fix “incompetent” resistance to SSM with education and familiarity – getting rid of the ick factor and making the change not so fearful. But we probably can’t fix “malicious” resistance to SSM. With those folks, you just use social pressure to get them to behave themselves in public while you wait for their movement to slowly die off over the next couple generations.

  • doublereed

    Actually, Ed, could you clarify why you called Ted Cruz a “brilliant legal scholar”? I think I speak for many of the other commenters when I say that I have no idea what you’re talking about. And you have definitely piqued my curiosity.

  • John Pieret

    Cruz graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law School, was a primary editor of the Harvard Law Review, and clerked for Chief Justice William Rehnquist. Alan Dershowitz, one of his professors at Harvard, said, “Cruz was off-the-charts brilliant.”

    While none of that necessarily means he was or is a “brilliant legal scholar,” neither is it chopped liver. It does clearly indicate that he is way too smart to buy bullshit like claiming the DOJ is abusing its power by following the dictates of Windsor.

  • colnago80

    Re John Pieret @ #13

    Dershowitz also said that Cruz and Elizabeth Warren were the two best students he ever had. There is an outside chance that Cruz and Warren may be running against each other in 2016.

  • John Pieret

    Cruz and Warren may be running against each other in 2016

    One of the greatest political debates I ever saw was between James Buckley (Bill’s younger but not dumber brother) and Daniel Patrick Moynihan when they were running for senator from New York. It was not only respectful but actually talked about issues not soundbites. You could see that both men respected and liked the other. Two smart politicians actually discussing what was best for the country … what a concept!

    Unfortunately Cruz has sold his soul and brain to the Tea Party …

  • zbeeblebrox

    Of course Cruz was lying – his lips were moving.

  • jba55

    “2 agents from the Federal Marriage Agency”

    Typical, Obama sends in FeMA to clean up the mess. You’re lucky you didn’t end up in the camps!

  • http://zenoferox.blogspot.com/ Zeno

    Cruz graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law School, was a primary editor of the Harvard Law Review, and clerked for Chief Justice William Rehnquist. Alan Dershowitz, one of his professors at Harvard, said, “Cruz was off-the-charts brilliant.”

    Not enough people are aware of this. Ted Cruz is a wickedly intelligent man (with the emphasis on “wickedly”). He is deliberately doing the stupid-ass things he does because they are calculated to benefit him politically with an easily manipulated segment of the electorate. He intends to ride the wave of ignorant, extremist, Tea-Party conservatives into higher office. Cruz has no scruples.

    It is up to us and all other sane-thinking rational people to show Cruz he’s miscalculated—badly.

  • rpjohnston

    eric @ 11:

    That’s a fairly rational consequence of what they are saying, but I doubt very much that most ‘tradititional marriage defenders’ would agree to that if you explicitly stated it that way.

    That’s EXACTLY my point. They wouldn’t agree with it when phrased that way…and they need to be aware that that phrasing is THEIR claim. No equivocation. They need to OWN their bigotry, not be allowed to weasel out when it’s phrased blatantly. Otherwise what exactly are you arguing against?

    MOST people don’t want to be malicious. Most of them even realize that “but it’s icky!” is a malicious argument – that’s why they use the “traditional marriage” language in the first place – that doesn’t sound malicious at all, does it? But what if you strip them of the equivocation and hand-waving, and show them the implications of their argument? Show them that, BY THEIR OWN MOUTH, they are being malicious? That will be a shock…and can help set them on the path to the right side.

  • Doc Bill

    Cruz has no leadership ability. Yeah, he passed tests and wrote nice essays. That’s a far cry from creating policy, generating consensus and demonstrating leadership.

    If you wanted a stupid Cruz president you would elect Louie Gohmert. Same cloth.

  • cry4turtles

    Anyone who builds his fort on the wrong side of the river of history, you know the flood plain side very much prone to mudslides, is not brilliant. Just because he’s booksmart doesn’t mean he can tie his shoes. Common sense, not so common.

  • caseloweraz

    theschwa: (The extra scare quotes are to show truly scary gay marriage is!)

    You’d best be frugal in your use of scare quotes, or the wingnuts will be after you for using up their share of this finite resource too.

  • http://polrant@blogspot.com democommie

    Senor Theodour don’t know the half of it. Right after they force all of the “straights” into loveless gaymawwiage, the homostorians are gonna push the meme that Shakespeare’s timeless play was oringinally written “As Romeo and Julius”; true story!

  • tubi

    Respecting Cruz’s legal brilliance in the face of his current evil words and actions is like still being a fan of Woody Allen or Orson Scott Card. At a certain point, you can no longer separate the truth about a person from what they once were, rejecting one while accepting the other. What they are now is what’s important.