Agema Keeps On Digging

Dave Agema, one of Michigan’s two representatives on the Republican National Committee, might be called embattled. He consistently says bizarre and inflammatory things, leading most of his GOP colleagues to tell him it’s time to resign, but he’s just digging his heels in further. He recently addressed the American Decency Association — really just a PO Box and a handful of cranks — and blamed it all on the devil.

In his speech, he said the RNC informed him it would direct funding away from him and blamed calls for his resignation on the Devil.

“I got that right from [RNC Chairman] Reince Priebus’ mouth. That’s what happened to him. They threatened to take several hundred thousand dollars out of the RNC unless they came out against me,” Agema said. “The rich and powerful, you know, when people came here [before the American Revolution, they] were the only ones who could speak freely, it’s coming to that again. So that’s what happened. I just think it’s amazing. We got Benghazi. We got NSA. We got the IRS. We got all these things. This is the Devil’s way — this is the Democrats’ way — to split the party.”

Priebus asked Agema to step down from his post last month “for the good of the party.” Agema said he had erred in judgment in the way he had addressed his opposition to homosexuality, according to MLive, but said he would not step down.

In his speech to the American Decency Association, Agema said free speech was at risk, mentioning how he had gotten “slammed” after making offensive comments about the LGBT community and Muslims.

“Homosexuals, the LGBT groups, have war rooms, literally war rooms, when they see anybody try to fight against their lifestyle,” he said.

War rooms? Literal war rooms? I have no idea what he’s talking about, which is appropriate since he doesn’t either.

Folks, I don’t hate anybody. I do not hate homosexuals. I do not hate Muslims. But if you’re going to come here as a Muslim, you’ll live under our laws, not Sharia law. And if you’re a homosexual, if I really care for you, and I made this example when I was on the radio one day, and they made this a big issue. I said, let me give you an example: If I have my neighbor, and he’s a good friend if mine, and he’s dying of alcoholism, and I know he’s dying, and I can help him, if I really care for the guy, I try to do something about it, not just let him die. The same way with the homosexual lifestyle. So when I said that suddenly they said Dave Agema compares homosexuality to alcoholism. That’s not what I was doing I was trying to show an example if you really care for somebody.

They said you were comparing homosexuality to alcoholism because you did. And now you’ve done it for the second time. Because you’re a bigot. And the fact that you’re so bigoted and extreme that even your fellow Republicans want you out should really tell you something.

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  • steve78b

    WOW! Too extreme for the republicans. Never thought I’d see that.

  • cottonnero

    More precisely, he’s not too extreme for the Republicans, he’s too embarrassing. As Lee Atwater showed, it’s possible to express reprehensible ideas in a way that won’t raise too many Republican eyebrows.

  • doublereed

    lol, a War Room is just a name for a conference room. It’s completely normal language in the business world. Maybe he should try getting a job.

    From Merriam-Webster:

    2: a room (as at a business headquarters) used for conferences and planning that is often specially equipped (as with computers, or charts)

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/war%20room

  • raven

    and blamed calls for his resignation on the Devil.

    The fundie devil is so powerful, it has become another god. So much for monotheism.

    Or maybe the devil is just doing god’s will. After all god the creator made the devil and god is in charge and everything happens for a reason. So god is sick of Agema as well.

    Xianity, not being anchored in reality is infinitely flexible and often incoherent.

  • keithb

    Wait, I thought they had warehouses for propaganda literature? Now they have War Rooms?

  • Larry

    In six months to a year, this guy will be mainstream republican. In fact, he’ll probably be primaried by what will then be the crazy wing of the party for not being crazy enough.

  • alanb

    Wait, I thought they had warehouses for propaganda literature? Now they have War Rooms?

    Well, they’re not finished. But you can see the plans on the pamphlet they send out asking for donations. They both look fabulous.

  • tubi

    “The rich and powerful, you know, when people came here [before the American Revolution, they] were the only ones who could speak freely, it’s coming to that again.

    I thought that’s what they wanted. Aren’t there conservatives out there agitating for a return to limiting the franchise only to property owners?

  • A Masked Avenger

    They said you were comparing homosexuality to alcoholism because you did. And now you’ve done it for the second time.

    Strictly speaking, an analogy is not a moral equivalence. I can draw an analogy between breaking parental curfew to help a lost child, and killing a Nazi in self-defense; many people would, because they’re idiots, say, “A Masked Avenger says parents are Nazis!” and, “A Masked Avenger says helping lost children is like killing someone!” I get that the emotional content overwhelms the intellect, but it’s still idiotic reasoning.

    Agema’s analogy was this:

    * If I cared about an alcoholic, I would get him to stop drinking, because harm.

    * If I cared about gay people, I would get them to stop being gay, because harm.

    The correct headline is not, “Homosexuality likened to alcoholism!” except in the trivial sense that he alleges both are harmful. The correct headline is, “Agema wants to make gay people stop being gay, for their own good, because he cares about them so much!”

    If we clearly understand the REAL point of his message, then we can see that he’s a homophobic asshat.

  • A Masked Avenger

    Oh, oh, wait, and this:

    Q: What do you call it when the devil divides the Republican party?

    A: Opening another branch office.

  • Wylann

    No fighting in the War Room!!

    It had to be done.

  • John Pieret

    War rooms? Literal war rooms?

    Actually, they are garages where floats for Gay Pride parades are built to a soundtrack of Bette Midler hits.

  • http://www.facebook.com/DocMonkey mickwright

    Did he really just try to say Benghazi was a liberal plot to divide the Republican party?

  • Chiroptera

    “Homosexuals, the LGBT groups, have war rooms, literally war rooms, when they see anybody try to fight against their lifestyle,” he said.

    Huh. By the common meaning of the word, the anti-gay marriage folks also have war rooms. That is kind of a standard thing that well-organized advocacy groups have, they have war rooms where the collate demographic and electoral data and plan strategy.

    Unless by “literal war rooms” he means gay people have rooms in which actual warfare is being conducted, in which case: lol wut?

  • eric

    If I have my neighbor, and he’s a good friend if mine, and he’s dying of alcoholism, and I know he’s dying, and I can help him, if I really care for the guy, I try to do something about it, not just let him die.

    Offensiveness of the analogy aside, it doesn’t even make his point. It would make his point if he supported legal prohibition to stop alcoholism, but as long as he wants to keep drinking legal and prevent alcoholism through other means, his analogy would support the concept of legalizing SSM.

  • Chiroptera

    eric, #15:

    Well, if I were to go by the, er, “arguments” the bigots make, I would guess (but, hey, who really knows how these people think?) that they would think that proper analogy is:

    If we allow men to marry men, then the next thing you know alcoholics will marry a beer.

  • D. C. Sessions

    The fundie devil is so powerful, it has become another god. So much for monotheism.

    Like the fundie said to his wife: “We already have three, what’s one more?”

  • cptdoom

    @keithb

    Wait, I thought they had warehouses for propaganda literature? Now they have War Rooms?

    Similar to mixing metaphors, you’re confusing anti-gay wingnuts. It’s Eugene Delgaudio who exposed the existence of “long-haired men” with earrings compiling the devil’s playbook/petitions for equality to send out and destroy Christianity. That’s totally different from Agema’s war rooms, although I think the same hallucinatory is at the root of both.

  • Pierce R. Butler

    Chiroptera @ # 14: … rooms in which actual warfare is being conducted…

    Read Iain M. Banks’s Feersum Endjinn for the full background and how-to.

  • raven

    Huh. By the common meaning of the word, the anti-gay marriage folks also have war rooms.

    That they do. And quite a few of them.

    They are called…churches

  • anubisprime

    So folks..prime example of inconsequentia cognitiva…perfect for the tea party aficionados!

    Expect said dude on the GOP primary ticket next outing!

  • dingojack

    Wylann (#11) – “Gentleman, gentleman, you can’t fight here, this is the War Room”.

    Dingo

  • http://www.northernpick.com danrobinson

    #4 “So much for monotheism.”

    I would say Christianity has oodles of gods, godlets, demi-gods, and semi-gods. (they drive Jesus’ big 18 wheeler)

    Especially Catholicism. They have the regular ol’ trinity and then they have Mary, and all those saints-a-hoppin’ all over the place.

  • StevoR : Free West Papua, free Tibet, let the Chagossians return!

    @16. Chiroptera :

    eric, #15: Well, if I were to go by the, er, “arguments” the bigots make, I would guess (but, hey, who really knows how these people think?) that they would think that proper analogy is:

    If we allow men to marry men, then the next thing you know alcoholics will marry a beer.

    Hmm.. that’d be a short lived relationship wouldn’t it? More a one drink stand!

  • jnorris

    Homosexuals, the LGBT groups, have war rooms, literally war rooms …

    Damn, damn, damn! I pay my annual dues and I never, ever got a copy of the Homosexual Agenda. Now I find out there’s a War Room. Why is it that the Tea Party Talibangelicals know all this stuff and I don’t?

  • leonardschneider

    A War Room? Nah, too tacky, too blasé.

    Now I could imagine a War Lounge, or maybe a War Night Club… It would be the only time in history where the organization for paramilitary action had a cover charge.

    Yeah, Agema, the homosexuals are organizing the Dance Hall Putsch.