Wiles: Something, Something, Gay Super Soldiers!

Rick Wiles of TruNews radio is about as disconnected from reality as it is possible to be. So is BarbWire editor Jeff Allen. So when they get together on the radio, you know that what you’re going to hear is going to be about as bizarre and irrational as anything you’ve ever heard. To wit:

Wiles: It’s not an exaggeration to say homofascist because the German Nazi Party was homosexual, Hitler was a homosexual, the top Nazi leadership, all of them were homosexuals, it was a radical homosexual movement that gained political power, military power, and they were creating a homosexual special race. That’s what it was all about. It wasn’t this thing about an Aryan race of white people, blue-eyed, blonde-haired, white people, Hitler was trying to create a race of super gay male soldiers. That’s what he was creating.

When you understand what the real agenda of the homosexual movement was in the 30s and 40s and you see it is happening now here in the United States of America. I’m telling you, this is not an exaggeration. If it’s not stopped, it will end up in America just like it was in Germany but it won’t be the Jews that will be slaughtered, it will be the Christians.

Allen: Right. We haven’t gotten, fortunately, to the slaughtering part, but we’re getting to the point of the marginalizing part. Marginalized, get us to the edge, remove us from any influence in society.

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  • StevoR : Free West Papua, free Tibet, let the Chagossians return!

    Gay supersoliders? That’s faaabulous!

  • Kevin Kehres

    No way a gay supersoldier is going to wear camouflage.

  • http://www.clanfield.net janiceintoronto

    Crinoline and taffeta in combat?

    Say it ain’t true!

  • StevoR : Free West Papua, free Tibet, let the Chagossians return!

    Hitler was trying to create a race of super gay male soldiers. That’s what he was creating.

    I don’t know what’s more wrong here – the biology FAIL or the history FAIL!

    Wonder if they noticed Hitler was actually married, well briefly, plus there was that whole creepy incestuous thing with his niece. Homosexual Hitler? My arse!

    we’re getting to the point of the marginalizing part. Marginalized, get us to the edge, remove us from any influence in society.

    Sounds like Allen & his partner Wiles are well & truly under the influence to be saying that sorta rot if y’know what I mean!

    Christians marginalised? Yeah right, suuure. If only.

    I’m telling you, this is not an exaggeration.

    No, no, no. Not an exxageration, a wiiilld exaggeration! A superlative hyper-mega-uber-super-not-at -all-small-bit of hyperbole and tall telling that’s been stretched from here to Uranus and back fifty thousand million times and that’s actually not exxageration I tellz ya!

    A few lines from Pulp Fiction about motherfuckers and the question of whether or not they speak it springs to mind here.

  • colnago80

    These lying ratfuckkers conveniently forget the purge of Ernst Röhm and the homosexuals in the SA in 1934. They have also forgotten that at least a million individuals suspected of being homosexuals were sent to concentration camps and exterminated therein.

  • steve84

    They need to make up their mind whether gay men are weak, effeminate pansies or a terrifying, unstoppable force of nature.

  • colnago80

    Re StevoR @ #4

    Wonder if they noticed Hitler was actually married, well briefly, plus there was that whole creepy incestuous thing with his niece

    Whose chips he is strongly suspected of cashing in.

  • Christoph Burschka

    Yep, that’s why thousands of people were sent to the concentration camps for being heterosexual.

    … no wait, sorry, other way around.

  • http://twitter.com/#!/VeritasKnight VeritasKnight

    I can honestly say that just gave me a braincramp.

  • John Pieret

    Of course, they’re recycling Scott Lively and The Pink Swastika (as if any self-respecting gay super soldier would be caught dead in pink … especially with those fabulous SS uniforms available!) .

    There were, naturally, some gays in the Nazis, Ernst Röhm (who Hitler had shot) for instance, but the Nazis were not made up exclusively, much less in in large part, of gays.

    It is just another case of Holocaust envy …

  • http://timgueguen.blogspot.com timgueguen

    Then there was Joseph Goebbels, who just about ruined his career in the late ’30s when an affair he was having with a Czech actress named Lida Baarova got a bit too blatant and pissed off Hitler. Hitler was quite fond of Goebbels’ wife Magda, and their children, and took Magda’s side in the mess.

  • daved

    The hyperbole appears to be contagious; @5:

    They have also forgotten that at least a million individuals suspected of being homosexuals were sent to concentration camps and exterminated therein.

    I thought that sounded implausible. From

    http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005261

    Between 1933 and 1945 the police arrested an estimated 100,000 men as homosexuals. Most of the 50,000 men sentenced by the courts spent time in regular prisons, and between 5,000 and 15,000 were interned in concentration camps.

  • Kevin Kehres

    @6…the answer, of course, is “yes”.

  • colnago80

    Re daved @ #12

    Correction accepted. The 1 million figure probably applies to gypsies.

  • a_ray_in_dilbert_space

    Wow. That is all. Just wow. Then again, Glenn Beck isn’t far behind them.

  • Pierce R. Butler

    colnago80 @ # 14 – from Ian Kershaw, Hitler – 1936-1945: Nemesis

    … the murder of the Gypsies took place without Hitler ever showing notable interest in the ‘Gypsy question’; nor was a pre-existing programme for their persecution and extermination devised, either by Himmler or Heydrich. … the numbers of Roma and Sinti murdered is estimated at between 220,000 and 500,000…

    Wiles’s wording leaves a key question open: does he claim Hitler aimed to create super soldiers, or super gays?

  • Abby Normal

    Kevin Kehres @2

    No way a gay supersoldier is going to wear camouflage.

    janiceintoronto @3

    Crinoline and taffeta in combat?

    Say it ain’t true!

    With friends like these, who needs enemies? I suppose if it had been about black super soldiers the jokes would have been about fried chicken MREs, right?

  • Chiroptera

    Heh. It sounds like Wiles has been watching too much bad porno.

  • Kevin Kehres

    @17: Sometimes ridicule is a perfectly appropriate response. You should get down from that high horse every once in a while.

  • Abby Normal

    Thanks for the advice. That’s might white of you.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=523300770 stuartsmith

    I should point out that there is a significant difference between gay super-soldiers and super-gay soldiers. For one thing, which one is scarier depends on whether you are more worried about soldiers or gayness.

  • Larry

    Imagine what Mel Brooks could have made of a super gay Nazi army when he filmed The Producers. The Springtime for Hitler scene would have been even more fabulous.

  • caseloweraz

    Wiles: Wiles: It’s not an exaggeration to say homofascist because the German Nazi Party was homosexual, Hitler was a homosexual, the top Nazi leadership, all of them were homosexuals…

    Sure! All of them were gay!

    There was Martin Borman: On 2 September 1929, Bormann married 19-year-old Gerda Buch, whose father, Major Walter Buch, served as a chairman of the Nazi Party Court. Bormann had recently met Hitler, who agreed to serve as a witness at their wedding. Gerda Bormann would give birth to 10 children; one died shortly after birth.

    There was Joseph Goebbels: Goebbels and his wife Magda killed their six young children by giving them poison, then committed suicide.

    There was Hermann Göring: During the early 1930s Göring was often in the company of Emmy Sonnemann (1893–1973), an actress from Hamburg. They were married on 10 April 1935 in Berlin; the wedding was celebrated on a huge scale. A large reception was held the night before at the Berlin Opera House. Fighter aircraft flew overhead on the night of the reception and the day of the ceremony. Göring’s daughter, Edda, was born on 2 June 1938.

    There was Heinrich Himmler: Himmler met his future wife, Margarete Boden, in 1927. Seven years his senior, she was a nurse who shared his interest in herbal medicine and homoeopathy, and was part owner of a small private clinic. They were married in July 1928, and their only child, Gudrun, was born on 8 August 1929.

    There was Albert Speer: In mid-1922, Speer began courting Margarete (Margret) Weber (1905–1987), the daughter of a successful craftsman who employed 50 workers. The relationship was frowned upon by Speer’s class-conscious mother, who felt that the Webers were socially inferior. Despite this opposition, the two married in Berlin on 28 August 1928; seven years were to elapse before Margarete Speer was invited to stay at her in-laws’ home.

    This last fellow was so gay he defied his family’s pressure in order to marry a woman he loved.

    And then there were Hitler’s gay generals — like Erwin Rommel: At this time Rommel developed a relationship with Walburga Stemmer in 1913, which produced a daughter, Gertrud.[9] Rommel ultimately broke off his relationship with Walburga. While at Cadet School, Rommel met his future wife, 17-year-old Lucia Maria Mollin (commonly called Lucie). They married on 27 November 1916 in Danzig. Twelve years later they had a son, Manfred Rommel, born on 24 December 1928.

    All quotes (except Wiles’s) come from Wikipedia.

    Wikipedia is not Rick Wiles’s friend, apparently.

  • Phillip IV

    Hitler was trying to create a race of super gay male soldiers. That’s what he was creating.

    Actually, not really. Although, I admit, some of the art commissioned for propaganda work during that era could give one that impression.

    And on the issue of fallacies:

    It’s not an exaggeration to say homofascist because the German Nazi Party was homosexual, Hitler was a homosexual, the top Nazi leadership, all of them were

    That would still be a fallacy, even if the second half of the sentence was true (instead of utter bullshit). So the sentence is 50% fallacious and 50% made up. Impressive, in a way.

  • http://festeringscabofrealityblogspot.com fifthdentist

    I think he misspelled “Christian” as “homosexual.”

    “We are determined, as leaders of the nation, to fulfill as a national government the task which has been given to us, swearing fidelity only to God, our conscience, and our Volk. This the national government will regard its first and foremost duty to restore the unity of spirit and purpose of our Volk. It will preserve and defend the foundations upon which the power of our nation rests. It will take Christianity, as the basis of our collective morality, and the family as the nucleus of our Volk and state, under its firm protection. May God Almighty take our work into his grace, give true form to our will, bless our insight, and endow us with the trust of our Volk.”

    -Adolf Hitler, on 1 Feb. 1933, addressing the German nation as Chancellor for the first time, Volkischer Beobachter, 5 Aug. 1935, [cited from Richard Steigmann-Gall’s The Holy Reich]

  • Michael Heath

    I’m not a WWII buff so perhaps I’m wrong here; but didn’t the Nazis start mass imprisonments of communists and homosexuals, and then mass genocide, prior to starting the same with Jewish people?

  • busterggi

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Breeding_Camps

    I’d like the proponents of gay Nazism to explain that.

  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    Hey, the LAST thing we need is to have gay supersoldiers shoved down our throats! Or so I’ve heard…

  • matty1

    Hey folks welcome back to the second part of Band Names That Should Totally Be Real.

    Up next we have Super Gay Soldiers followed by Lively Like Jesus and Evil Legos.

  • greg1466

    Well, he’s right. It’s not exaggeration. It’s plain old fiction.

  • scenicartist

    I’m glad this was a radio program because, guaranteed, neither of these two were wearing pants during this discussion.

  • Nick Gotts

    sceniartist@31

    WTF? Is this yet another fuckwitted “all homophobes are closeted gays” comment? If not, I haven’t the slightest idea what you’re talking about.