Wingnut: Real ID Just Like Nazi Germany

Louisiana is considering a bill to allow (not require) residents of that state to get driver’s licenses that comply with the Real ID standards, which would allow them to fly without passports. But Sandy McDade of the Eagle Forum says the stars on those licenses are like the ones the Nazis made the Jews wear. *headdesk*

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  • Trebuchet

    Real ID is, of course, a program started by the Bush administration. And the star is JUST like the ones on the US flag. Not surprising that wingnuts can’t count past five.

  • Chiroptera

    I can see why he’d be worried. If everyone is Jewish, then no one is.

  • raven

    says the stars on those licenses are like the ones the Nazis made the Jews wear. *headdesk*

    I’m already late on this one.

    The US flag has stars on it, 50 of them.

    She isn’t even trying. Don’t they teach fundies anything these days. IIRC, the star is also used as a symbol in some Pagan religions.

  • steffp

    “The only country I can think of that had a national ID card was Nazi Germany”.

    Back in 1939, yes. During the following war, most warfaring countries made ID cards obligatory. These days, it’s practically all the world with a few exemptions ( Australia, Canada, Denmark, Ireland, India , Japan, New Zealand, Norway, the United Kingdom and the United States). There is an impressive list on Wikipedia.

    Do these guys never run a superficial fact check?

  • raven

    Urban Dictionary: pentagram

    www. urbandictionary. com/define.php?term=pentagram‎

    An upright star is used mainly by Wicca, but it was also used as a christian symbol, in christianity its meaning is of the five scars of Jesus. One on each arm and …

    https:// answers. yahoo.com/question/index?qid…‎

    Dec 11, 2009 – The pentagram is an ancient magical symbol which has been employed, at one time or another by half the religions on the planet. In terms of …

    Sandy McDade is too stupid to even use Google apparently. The star is also a symbol in Wicca!!!

    Of course it is also a symbol used in xianity and half the world’s religions. The Moslems use a crecent moon and star symbol.

    This is what happens when you live in a demon haunted darkness of your own invention.

  • caseloweraz

    That’s not a fair criticism, steffp. Didn’t you hear her say “I will just leave that there, I won’t go down that path.” ?

    /sarcasm

    Actually, of course, she did go down that path. It behooves anyone who testifies in that sort of hearing to be well prepared. Ergo, she said exactly what she wanted to say. Good thing I’m somewhat inured to such cascades of stupidity, or my desk would be a pile of kindling by now (and I’d have a forehead full of splinters.)

  • dan4

    Surprised she didn’t go with the “It’s the Mark of the Beast!” oldie but (not) goodie.

  • dingojack

    In Fundie-land six = five (= oh, more than I can count).

    @@

    Dingo

  • Artor

    I used to wear a pentagram; a five-pointed star, in case the “penta” doesn’t mean anything to you. I was amazed at how many people were unable to count past five and thought I was Jewish.

  • caseloweraz

    Hey, I know what a pentagram is! It’s that thing on top of an electric train that rubs against the wires carrying the current, right?

  • D. C. Sessions

    Do these guys never run a superficial fact check?

    Why? They’d just have to deskew for the known liberal bias anyway.

  • Larry

    Artor

    I was amazed at how many people were unable to count past five and thought I was Jewish.

    To give people the benefit of doubt, most would have given your jewelry a quick, cursory look and seen the shape before counting the points and seen it as the Jewish symbol. For the same reasons, the police like to have other evidence to a crime than just eye witnesses as they can be notoriously unreliable.

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    steffp “Do these guys never run a superficial fact check?”

    Oh, come on! They checked all of the superficial facts!

     

    Artor “I used to wear a pentagram; a five-pointed star, in case the “penta” doesn’t mean anything to you. I was amazed at how many people were unable to count past five and thought I was Jewish.”

    What? You don’t get the sixth point until you complete the Torah, which is a footrace of some kind.

    Personally, I’m only up to three points (Bris, Salty Fish, Woody Allen impression). I’m working on Passive Aggression next.

  • Trebuchet

    @10, caseloweraz: Please award yourself one internetz. (I love me some trains.)

  • The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

    The only case I know of a five-pointed star being any kind of political statement or provocation is the Somali flag. The Republic of Somalia was formed from the former British Somaliland and Italian Somaliland, but there were other majority-Somali areas: Djibouti (the former French Somaliland), the Ogaden region of Ethiopia, and the North-East Province of Kenya. The five-pointed star indicated their intention to eventually control all five of them. I guess their collapse as a state has set them back a little.

  • http://umlud.blogspot.com umlud

    “The only country I can think of that had a national ID card was Nazi Germany”.

    Let’s look at the extensive list of countries that use some sort of identity document (either a national or subnational levels):

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_document

    Hmmm… Strange. I see SEVERAL countries on that list. Seems like the world has progressed somewhat during the intervening 70 years. Heck, I’m living in Chile, and the national ID card works as a de facto passport for nine countries in South America in addition be being connected to nearly everything that you do.

    I guess – based on Sandy McDade’s logic – that I’m not actually living Chile in 2014, but in in Nazi Germany in 1939. I suppose that I should log off now, before I cause a rift in space-time. 😛

  • Al Dente

    5 = 6 if you count “one…two…three…many”.

  • http://www.pandasthumb.org Area Man

    Yes, the Nazis put a Star of David on every ID card. They wanted to make sure that every citizen could be denounced as Jewish equally.

    I did love the part at the end where the lady admits that she wants to require a picture ID for people to vote. It’s funny how these people work. The government should require an ID for you to exercise your most basic civil right, but it’s tyranny for them to actually give you one.

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    Area Man “The government should require an ID for you to exercise your most basic civil right, but it’s tyranny for them to actually give you one.”

    Real ID is a federal standard, with federal funding assistance (and with that comes federal standards and federal oversight). This conflicts with State’s Rights because it makes it harder for states to cheat minorities.

  • lorn

    Whherre arre yourr ppaaappers…

    It is all about terminology.

    Did she just suggest that the German extermination of the Jews would have been somehow better if they had used the term “twinkle-twinkle little stars” ?

    Or that the issues around demanding an ID to vote are somehow made less objectionable if the photography on the ID card is “low-resolution”?

    She also seems to give credence to the idea that there is significant voter fraud by asserting that she has seen “documents” making those claims opposed to what I’ve seen and heard: rhetorical claims backed by nothing.

  • http://www.themindisaterriblething.com shripathikamath

    So Real ID is too much, but a voter ID not enough?

  • https://www.facebook.com/kpalexander1 Kevin Alexander

    When some fastest pig demanded my ‘papers’ I said ‘Sorry dude, I use a bong’

    Can’t remember where I was going but pretty sure I didn’t get there.

  • Joey Maloney

    So “Real ID” is the answer to today’s round of Wingnut Mad Libs. Don’t worry if it wasn’t your choice, tomorrow you’ll have another chance.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=701394965 patrickashton

    It’s funny how many people who say “I won’t go down that road” already have.

  • thebookofdave

    So, I will leave that there. I won’t go down that path.

    But now that I’ve opened the gate, I just want you to have that image of Godwinland, that I’m clearly not taking you to.