Bundy’s Son Gives the Usual Excuses for Racism

After being caught saying that black people are lazy and shiftless and dependent on the government and that they would have been better off as slaves, his son is defending him with the usual list of excuses for racism — he was framed, it was out of context, he just isn’t articulate and by golly he has black friends!

A comment by embattled Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy about blacks and slavery was taken out of context by the New York Times, according to Bundy’s son, Ammon Bundy, who told WND in an interview Thursday his father was trying to reach out to the black and Hispanic communities.

“They took what they wanted. They knew when they were there his comments were not racist. He wasn’t able to completely articulate,” Ammon Bundy told WND. “That’s just my dad. He is a very principled person.”

Uh, what does the end of that statement have to do with the first part of it? What does being a “principled person” have to do with not being articulate?

Ammon Bundy told WND: “I was there standing right beside my father when he made those comments. He was reaching out to the black community.”

That’s reaching out to them? Wow.

He recalled his father’s respect for the black community and his gratitude.

Cliven Bundy was working in Los Angeles during the Watts riots in 1965.

“Everything was in chaos, fires everywhere,” Ammon Bundy told WND, recalling the stories from his father.

“He felt he needed to get back to his hotel. He took the chance and actually got on the freeway,” he said. “He’s driving down this freeway, and these two vehicles full of black men came up on each side.”

Ammon Bundy said his father was afraid at first, but the cars simply stayed beside him until he left the freeway.

“He realized, he felt that they were his guardian angels, actually escorting him through the city,” he said.

I bet he even let them use his bathroom.

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  • http://www.pixelated-reality.com Alareth

    “That’s just my dad. He is a very principled person.”

    I’m sure he is very principled. The problem is that he has bad principles.

  • Doug Little

    “That’s just my dad. He is a very principled person.”

    Does not in anyway preclude him from being a principled racist.

  • Doug Little

    “He felt he needed to get back to his hotel. He took the chance and actually got on the freeway,” he said. “He’s driving down this freeway, and these two vehicles full of black men came up on each side.”

    Sounds like a scene out of Mad Max. Even if this were true, which I doubt it given the track record of this character it’s still racist to think that they were up to no good in the first place.

  • eric

    Presumably Ammon would be okay with airing the entire interview, then, over and over again until everyone is very familiar with his dad’s actual words? I think that would provide his dad with exactly the type and amount of public support he deserves.

  • Pierce R. Butler

    Didn’t Cliven Bundy’s god order the extermination of the Ammonites? Who let one get away?

  • Reginald Selkirk
  • dingojack

    Dear god –

    What did I do to you?

    The Ammonites.

  • busterggi

    “I bet he even let them use his bathroom.”

    Only if he could charge them usage fees like the BLM.

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    Doug Little “Sounds like a scene out of Mad Max. Even if this were true, which I doubt it given the track record of this character it’s still racist to think that they were up to no good in the first place.”

    Worse, it contradicts the earlier version, when he was chillin’ out maxin’ relaxin’ all cool and all shootin some b-ball outside of the school, when a couple of guys who were up to no good started making trouble in his neighborhood.

  • John Pieret

    Reginald Selkirk @ 8:

    Re that video: Bundy’s conclusion is that MLK wanted his to have the freedom to say “negro or black boy or slave.” Of course, he does have the right to say it. And other people have the right to call him a racist.

  • John Pieret

    Opps, Reginald Selkirk @ 6:

  • Francisco Bacopa

    I have no doubt that Ammon Bundy is telling the truth when he said Cliven was just being helpful and “reaching out” to the black community. What he doesn’t understand is that makes what he said even more racist.

  • http://polrant@blogspot.com democommie

    My suggestion is that Clivenlarge Bundy go right to the people who MIGHT be offended by his remarks and explain it to them. East St. Louis or some other place like it.

  • tfkreference

    Although how he said it was, to use his defenders’ term, “inarticulate,” the more important part is what he said. It would have been no better if he said that African-Americans who can afford only public housing are lazy and killing their young through abortion.

  • Trebuchet

    Well, Bundy’s comments weren’t really any different from Mitt’s 47% speech. He just said “Nigra” in it and Mitt knew better.

  • mikeinohio

    Maybe Bundy should sit down for an extended interview with a journalist like Ta-Nehisi Coates, and he could explain himself and his views in great detail to an intelligent black man who doesn’t spend his days “sitting on his concrete front porch waiting for a government subsidy”. Bundy could talk as long as he wanted, so he wouldn’t be all “misunderstood” or “taken out of context”. I’m sure that’s all Bundy needs to do to clear up this little misunderstanding. See, the core of the problem is that we haven’t let him talk ENOUGH. I’m sure that spending a few more minutes in the limelight is all he needs to fix things up right proper. Yes sir, THAT’S the answer.

  • matty1

    “He felt he needed to get back to his hotel. He took the chance and actually got on the freeway,” he said. “He’s driving down this freeway, and these two vehicles full of black men came up on each side.”

    What strikes me about this is how self centred it is, you’re on a busy road and there are vehicles on both sides of you and you assume they are there because of you. Even if it happened the odds are those men didn’t give a shit who was in the other cars, they were just on their way somewhere.

  • Doug Little

    mikeinohio,

    I nominate Jessica Williams for that task, the outcome would be much more entertaining.

  • Doug Little

    Even if it happened the odds are those men didn’t give a shit who was in the other cars, they were just on their way somewhere

    Yeah on their way to stick it to whitey*

    *In the mind of a racist. Because they can’t get past the idea that young black males are all gang bangers with nothing better to do than rob and kill god fearing white folk like them.

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    Doug Little “*In the mind of a racist. Because they can’t get past the idea that young black males are all gang bangers with nothing better to do than rob and kill god fearing white folk like them.”

    That’s not racist. Imagine what a bunch of them could do. I mean, all it took was one of them to wipe out the dinosaurs!

  • Doug Little

    Modus @20.

    ???

    You’ve got me stumped on that one.

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    Sorry. I was thinking of asteroids.

  • freehand

    I can’t imagine any context in which this sounds right:

    “And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do? They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”

    .

    Unless it’s a quote or fictional dialog.

    .

    So, he’s not only a welfare queen, a thief, a deadbeat, a traitor, a liar, and a racist, he actually doesn’t have the courage to admit that he meant what he says, so he’s a coward also.

  • pocketnerd

    Poor Cliven Bundy. His real problem was he wasn’t up-to-date on the current conservative lingo. If just used the approved dogwhistles, he could have said exactly the same thing on Fox News… and then insisted liberals were the real racists for trying to bring race into the discussion.

  • iangould

    “Let me tell you another thing about the cracker. They need to stop fucking their cousins, doing crystal meth and fetishizing a bunch of losers and traitors whose half-assed rebellion failed almost 150 years ago, Sometimes I think if they got first-hand experience of what slavery was like they wouldn’t be so keen to recommend it to others.”

    What?

    I’m reaching out.

  • http://www.pandasthumb.org Area Man

    Ammon Bundy told WND: “I was there standing right beside my father when he made those comments. He was reaching out to the black community.”

    Yes, the large and burgeoning black community of the scrub-lands of southern Nevada. Why, you can hardly drive 200 miles in any direction without seeing at least one black person. I’m sure his outreach efforts were appreciated by his black neighbors in Las Vegas a hundred miles away and the all-white crowd twenty feet in front of him.

  • tbp1

    What exactly is the “context” in which suggesting that black people were better off as slaves isn’t racist?

  • reddiaperbaby1942

    There’s one phrase that Bundy used in his original rant which I think hasn’t received enough attention. The “sitting out on their porches” meme goes very far back; I remember an American history class in my junior year in high school, in 1957 — more or less the beginning of the Civil Rights movement — with the teacher (this was in a New York high school) using the same meme:”if you drive through the South, you see them sitting out on their porches, and they claim to be poor, but inside they’ve got washing machines and even TV sets.” (Naturally, after almost sixty years, I’m paraphrasing a bit, but I do remember the occasion vividly.)

    I had just come back from Europe, where my family had been living for nine years, and this was my first year in an American high school. I had no idea what she was talking about, or even who the “they” referred to.(In the context, she had been talking about the “colored folk”, but being unfamiliar with American racial tensions I was quite puzzled. Later it naturally became crystal clear.

    What she — and Bundy — were saying is that black people should not be sitting outside on their porches, for everyone to see. They should be invisible.

  • reddiaperbaby1942

    P.S. to previous post: one reason I remember it so clearly is probably the enormous anger, resentment and even hatred I sensed in this teacher’s voice. Looking back, this middle-aged woman was obviously a hard-right conservative, but at 15, and brought up (as reflected in my screen name) in a hard-left family and environment and outside the US, I had never encountered such a person before and had no way of understanding her.

    And this is the same anger, resentment and hatred we are witnessing now, two generations later.

  • http://www.etsy.com/shop/LDORIGINALS Dalillama, Schmott Guy

    reddiaperbaby

    Literally the same. It’s refrigerators now, though.

  • http://polrant@blogspot.com democommie

    “Ammon”, is that short for “Ammonia”?