More Fun With the Bundy Ranch Groupies

Wingnutapalooza continues its sold-out run at the Bundy Ranch in Nevada. The star of today’s episode is “Elias Alias,” a self-declared “editor” for the Oath Keepers, one of the many paranoid far-right groups looking to bathe in the reflected glory of Clive Bundy. He put out an “advisory” that is just one bizarre claim after another. Like this:

Yes, it is true: Oath Keepers received a bizarre bit of leaked info which could not be verified but which also could not be ignored. Our contact is connected with the Department of Defense – or “was”. The info we received stated that Eric Holder of the Department of Justice had okayed a drone strike on the Bundy ranch near Bunkerville, Nevada, within a 48 hour period over the weekend of April 26/27, 2014…

This mis-info came from a trusted source, a former Special Forces soldier with significant connections inside DOD. Though the info was unbelievable, in the present climate generated by the BLM and Senator Harry Reid (who called the ranchers and their friends “domestic terrorists”), Oath Keepers decided that the info must be regarded as indicating that a drone attack was at least “possible”.

Knowing that this sort of info is at least bizarre, Stewart and our Board members who were there at the ranch finally, after painstakingly going over all possible angles, decided that this should be handled just as the authorities would handle a bomb threat at a school – evacuate the kids from the school immediately and then sift for the bomb, if indeed one turned out to exist there. Stewart knew this was a potential trap for Oath Keepers, but felt that he could not remain quiet about the info which had come to us. Better safe than sorry, in a nutshell, defines his thinking on this. Oath Keepers is tremendously happy that nothing happened and that this was a bad tip, a piece of “dis-info”, a “psy-op”.

Oh yes, of course. It can’t be that you were just full of shit. If it happens, that proves that the government is evil. And if it doesn’t happen, that proves that the government is evil and sneaky and obviously working to foment discord among the various wannabe gangs hanging out on Bundy’s island of misfit wingnuts. But it seems that having advised all the other militias to evacuate the ranch to avoid being incinerated and being dead wrong has caused some of the other militia groups there to question them. Imagine that.

In the wake of this remarkable anomaly, I see that some so-called “patriots” have gone to exaggerated extents to attack Oath Keepers. The hysteria levels are up past flood-stage markings. We have people accusing Oath Keepers of many different offenses, including stealing money we collected for the Bundy family…

Other accusations bordering on the absurd are being passed around, and it appears to be a concerted or choreographed Internet activity as if designed by anyone wanting to discredit Oath Keepers. There are pieces to our puzzle which are not yet on the table, but it is obvious that somebody wants us shut down and will use what national media coverage exists to smear us to a progressive audience we would not otherwise know existed.

A typical FBI psy-op would plant “leaders” in every militia they could infiltrate. What those sorts of FBI agents or surrogates do is always “handled”. Some of the purported “leaders” of the militia at the ranch are doing exactly what any agent provocateur would do after having infiltrated the militia and claimed a role in leadership. Did you notice the massive ego about who is going to command who? Did you notice the drama in the tendency to speak of Oath Keepers as if we were a militia, which we are not. These militia “leaders” would judge us by battlefield standards even though there has not been a “battlefield” since April 12, 2014? They would shoot us for desertion? Really? That is amazing, and is the kind of bumbling consciousness which a conditioned and programmed special warfare officer or a federal agent would offer if he had to think on his feet of a sudden…

We were suggesting that the FBI (and other related groups) firmly believes in creating its own opposition for purposes of controlling it from atop and within. The model is searchable online as “COINTELPRO”. The fedgov infiltrates all social and cultural segments of America’s population. It is best to presume that the militias across America are all infiltrated. If you want to see the leadership of the co-opted militias currently at the Bundy ranch, you will have to search for a video put out to smear Oath Keepers. The link I had last night (April 28, 2014), is now invalid. The video of a circle of men denouncing Oath Keepers and threatening Oath Keepers with being shot in the back as “deserters”, and accusing Oath Keepers of stealing from the Bundy family, will give you the true insight into the steroidal psycho-pathic dreamwish of little boys playing “Army” in the fields near the house forty and fifty years ago, who somehow retained that aloofness and swapped it for a job with a badge or uniform and a gun and a retirement plan that could be counted on, or worse, in some cases, self-proclaimed “officers” who never bothered to go into the military when they grew old enough to enlist, or never made the police force…

This much is certain: The federal government has many agencies and contracting private-sector corps to which it can send requests for certain clandestine or covert actions in the public sector. All Oath Keepers officers are aware of that, and we stand strongly and without fear, to oppose the tyranny which has gripped our nation. In the face of personal hardship, discomfort, and deep-seated concerns about personal safety, our officers, myself included, actually live the fight for liberty every day. We have noticed that the more successful our mission becomes, the more flak is thrown at us. My comment today is, “When we look about, who today is tossing slings and arrows at Oath Keepers? To see who is trying to destroy Oath Keepers, we see those who make wild accusations, unfounded charges, and imaginary scenaric situations glossed over by their berserk egoism which presupposes that the rest of the world can’s see their motivation and their jealousy and their fear.

Wait, the FBI might plant leaders within the militia movement to discredit them? You mean like maybe someone in the Oath Keepers who would write incoherent screeds like this and make public announcements that the Obama administration was going to kill them all in drone strikes? Oh, “Elias Alias.” I think you just outed yourself. I don’t know how much longer this can go on — I’m running out of popcorn. Someone needs to turn this into a reality TV show.

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  • Artor

    Maybe the guys who produced gems like “Police Academy,” or “F-Troop,” could take on the project?

  • John Pieret

    Better safe than sorry, in a nutshell, defines his thinking on this.

    Couldn’t have said it better myself!

  • http://www.ranum.com Marcus Ranum

    Someone needs to turn this into a reality TV show

    It already is!

  • Trebuchet

    “Clive” yet again. Dang it, Ed.

  • http://atheist-faq.com Jasper of Maine

    Here’s my hypothesis. There’s a statistical rate of crackpots and crazy people per 100000 citizens. Back when the country was only a fraction of the population it was now, these people were easily dismissed and ignored.

    At 300M people, they’re sufficient to be an large insufferable blob of paranoid delusion to be reckoned with.

    Maybe if we used airliners’ steam trails to disperse some kind of drug, like an anti-psychotic, over the area.

  • zenlike

    Well, these right wing groups need a spotlight to keep the scam going, and the money flowing in their direction. So they are more or less obligated to attach their wagon to the train of stupidity when a newcomer arrives and takes the wingnut spotlight all on their own.

  • raven

    Discussion: Militia Leader Threatens To Rip Reid’s Balls Off Over …

    forums. talkingpointsmemo. com/t/discussion-militia-leader…/2544‎

    2 days ago – Discussion: Militia Leader Threatens To Rip Reid’s Balls Off Over …

    The Patriot Leader Mike Vanderboegh is on Social Security disability.

    It’s even weirder, the more you look.

    One of the militia leaders, Mike Vanderboegh is on Social Security disability. One of Romney’s moochers.

    I suspect this is true of many of them, receiving various federal transfer payments.

    A common question is don’t these guys have jobs, families, and lives? Most people can’t go sit out in the Nevada desert and wave rifles around and threaten to kill US senators. Because they have responsibilities and lives.

  • Larry Kearney

    Breaking News! Grocery stores in Nevada are reporting a dire shortage of aluminum foil on their shelves. Reports are indicating heavily armed, over-weight men in camouflage have been buying it up in bulk for several weeks. Although it isn’t known how its being used, pictures of encampments around the Bundy compound show several individuals fashioning it into hats.

  • sigurd jorsalfar

    It’s all just a false flag operation to draw all the crazies into the Nevada desert and vaporize them like a Taliban compound, hatched by undercover FBI agent Clive Bundy, using the clever alias ‘Cliven’ Bundy.

  • http://polrant@blogspot.com democommie

    Isn’t there a Millenialist Biker Gang out there looking to find common cause with these loonies. Not having watched any of this nonsense on teevee or teh intertoobz I don’t know who all is there but it reminds of this:

    http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Netflix+TV+Commercials&Form=VQFRVP#view=detail&mid=8597445918A9B6E1FD638597445918A9B6E1FD63

    Except the guy with the popcorn isn’t wearing camo and face paint.

  • http://polrant@blogspot.com democommie

    It will be interesting to hear how many of Bundy’s Bozoz lose their jobs–if they have a job–and then demand TANF.

  • http://saltycurrent.blogspot.com SC (Salty Current), OM

    Knowing that this sort of info is at least bizarre, Stewart and our Board members who were there at the ranch finally, after painstakingly going over all possible angles, decided that this should be handled just as the authorities would handle a bomb threat at a school – evacuate the kids from the school immediately and then sift for the bomb, if indeed one turned out to exist there.

    How do you sift for a drone?

  • dingojack

    “…. will give you the true insight into the steroidal psycho-pathic dreamwish [sic] of little boys playing “Army” in the fields near the house forty and fifty years ago, who somehow retained that aloofness and swapped it for a job with a badge or uniform and a gun and a retirement plan that could be counted on, or worse, in some cases, self-proclaimed “officers” who never bothered to go into the military when they grew old enough to enlist, or never made the police force.”

    “Elias Alias” is gonna have to give us his real name if he wants to collect his nice shiny Bryan Fischer Award.

    Dingo

  • Michael Heath

    Elias Alias:

    Yes, it is true: Oath Keepers received a bizarre bit of leaked info which could not be verified but which also could not be ignored.

    Comedy Gold

  • comfychair

    Lack of evidence means it must be true.

  • colnago80

    Re dingojack @ #18

    Drone, schmone. Tsar bombe.

  • dingojack

    SLC – Maintaining your usual level of read comprehension I see…

    😀 Dingo

  • abusedbypenguins

    Pay-for-view drone strike. Watch it live, only $29.95, for the first domestic terrorist drone strike.

  • Konradius

    Oath keepers?

    Did they name themselves after the Game of Thrones episode of last monday?

    Seriously: try to google oath keeper and you get a truly bizarre mix of left and right american politics mixed with Game of Thrones sites. It actually resembles my facebook feed.

  • Robert B.

    Treating it as an unsubstantiated bomb threat seems almost reasonable, until you get to the later part.

  • krisrhodes

    I am shocked, SHOCKED to find out that a group of derranged paranoid authoritarians don’t play well with other groups of derranged paranoid authoritarians.

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    Birchers are funny. Birchers with guns, not so much.

  • anubisprime

    Well the amount of ‘lurve’ being displayed by these bozos…the ‘gubbermint just has to sit back and watch them sabotage each other.

    Sounds like if the feds are not playing swat the doofus …then the patriots will just have to swat each other…it is a macho thing and depends on how much each individual gang ‘lurve’ jeebus, apple pie, big guns and conspiracies…apparently!

  • Pierce R. Butler

    We have people accusing Oath Keepers of many different offenses, including stealing money we collected for the Bundy family…

    Move along, nothing to see here, folks:

    … there was a great deal of contention about how $40,000 raised on behalf of the Bundy family through the Oath Keepers was handled, since the organization wound up only writing the family a check for $12,500.

  • Kevin Kehres

    You know, as much as I wouldn’t want to see anyone hurt — including these doofuses (no, really, that would be awful) — how much fun could be had with a remote control airplane flown over Bundyland.

  • http://saltycurrent.blogspot.com SC (Salty Current), OM

    Oath keepers?

    Discussed in context here.

    ***

    We were suggesting that the FBI (and other related groups) firmly believes in creating its own opposition for purposes of controlling it from atop and within. The model is searchable online as “COINTELPRO”.

    If you actually study this history,* you’ll find that the FBI has spent vast resources to infiltrate and suppress leftwing organizations and far less on these terrifying rightwing yahoos, despite the FBI’s own data about their violence and links to terrorism.

    * From Wikipedia:

    FBI records show that 85% of COINTELPRO resources targeted groups and individuals that the FBI deemed “subversive”,[10] including communist and socialist organizations; organizations and individuals associated with the Civil Rights Movement, including Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. and others associated with the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, and the Congress of Racial Equality and other civil rights organizations; black nationalist groups; the American Indian Movement; a broad range of organizations labeled “New Left”, including Students for a Democratic Society and the Weathermen; almost all groups protesting the Vietnam War, as well as individual student demonstrators with no group affiliation; the National Lawyers Guild; organizations and individuals associated with the women’s rights movement; nationalist groups such as those seeking independence for Puerto Rico, United Ireland, and Cuban exile movements including Orlando Bosch’s Cuban Power and the Cuban Nationalist Movement; and additional notable Americans —even Albert Einstein, who was a socialist and a member of several civil rights groups, came under FBI surveillance during the years just before COINTELPRO’s official inauguration.[11] The remaining 15% of COINTELPRO resources were expended to marginalize and subvert white hate groups, including the Ku Klux Klan and the National States’ Rights Party.

  • Joseph Yaroch

    I like the idea of a reality show, except for one thing. I don’t like shows in which every single one the characters is a jerk.

  • Tsu Dho Nimh

    A – Did you notice the massive ego about who is going to command who? Did you notice the drama

    B – steroidal psycho-pathic dreamwish of little boys playing “Army”

    C – self-proclaimed “officers” who never bothered to go into the military when they grew old enough to enlist, or never made the police force

    D – All of the above.

  • http://dontlinkmebro F [i’m not here, i’m gone]

    The hysteria levels are up past flood-stage markings.

    Other accusations bordering on the absurd are being passed around,

    Funny how he notices this only after the endless stream of wackaloon goofball talk targets his group. How strange!

  • http://dontlinkmebro F [i’m not here, i’m gone]

    colnago80 #16

    Bombe

  • dingojack

    SLC-

    the question I have is if we took your suggestion (for all it’s moral/ethical troubles) against Sarah Palin —

    Would it be Bombe Alaska?!?

    Dingo

  • colnago80
  • LightningRose

    If I owned a helicopter I’d paint it black and spend a few afternoons circling Bundyville just out of range.

  • D Carter

    #15

    Lack of evidence means it must be true.

    And for this, religion is their practice field.

  • http://dontlinkmebro F [i’m not here, i’m gone]

    RE: 32

    We know what it is. Never mind #30. @@

  • Scr… Archivist

    Sunday: Mostly sunny, with a high near 98. Windy.

    Monday: Mostly sunny, with a high near 94. Windy.

    “Red Flag Warning: An area of low pressure moving into the Western states will bring increasing winds to the area Sunday and Monday. These winds, combined with very low relative humidities, will bring red flag conditions to much of southern Nevada and northwest Arizona.”

    If the seditionists in Nevada are worried about symbolic flags, this red flag might be the only one worth thinking about. But if this weekend isn’t enough to send them packing, there’s more to come.

    Average temperatures in Clark County, Nevada: http://pics2.city-data.com/w1q/lhaq15386.png

    We may just have to wait until July or August.

  • http://www.ranum.com Marcus Ranum

    @colnago80

    Is that what you jerk off to?

  • dingojack

    SLC (#32)

    Bombe Alaska

    :) Dingo

  • http://wiki.hypertwins.org/woozle Woozle

    I’ll just leave this here… https://soundcloud.com/woozalia/cliven

  • bushrat

    At this point I think that there is more of a danger of the various militia groups starting a shoot out with each other than the Feds starting one. Sadly, the level of paranoid delusion in these groups will lead to accusations, then someone will call someone an Obama loving pinko and the bullets will start flying.