Joseph Farah Plays Peacemaker

With half the writers on his website lauding Cliven Bundy as a hero and a patriot, Joseph Farah and his mustache have decided to try to be peacemaker. With standard “a pox on both houses” and “can’t we all just get along” rhetoric, he leaves out some very important details.

So you thought the crisis over the federal government’s beef with Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy was over?

Not so.

Now the FBI is investigating supporters of Bundy who allegedly pointed guns at armed federal agents of the Bureau of Land Management during a standoff last month.

No Americans should be pointing guns at other Americans over grazing fees that are allegedly owed by Bundy. There’s no need for that. This is the kind of conflict that should be resolved peaceably in courts of law as well as in the court of public opinion.

Uh, Joe…the courts have already resolved it. Multiple times. What the BLM did was try to peaceably enforce a court order that explicitly gave them the authority to remove Bundy’s cattle from federal land because he had refused for 20 years to pay even the minimal (about 1/8th that of private grazing land) fees for doing so. The legal case here is as open and shut as it could possibly be. That doesn’t matter to Bundy and his deranged followers. If they hadn’t shown up by the hundreds with automatic weapons, the matter would have been resolved a few weeks ago.

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  • raven

    Now the FBI is investigating supporters of Bundy who allegedly pointed guns at armed federal agents of the Bureau of Land Management during a standoff last month.

    I’m surprised they weren’t there from day 0. What took them so long?

    We are spending tens of billions of dollars on anti-terrorism and Homeland Security. It doesn’t look like it is doing much good.

  • dogmeat

    Raven,

    The problem is, a more aggressive approach to the conflict was likely to lead to bloodshed. Much like Waco, in our current political climate, that would lead to more and more aggressive right-wing nutjobs. The solution? I don’t know, but quietly investigating and arresting those wackos is at least marginally better than going toe to toe with them (and blasting them into hamburger).

  • pocketnerd

    And, of course, white Christians don’t count as terrorists.

    (I’m all for a nonviolent solution to this, but let’s be realistic — if this guy were an African-American, the talking points in the wingnutosphere would be “The ultimate WELFARE QUEEN!” and “Which is more appropriate for dealing with this Scary Black Man: mustard gas or nukes?”)

  • caseloweraz

    Joseph Farah: So you thought the crisis over the federal government’s beef with Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy was over?

    Oooh — a double entendre!

  • raven

    The problem is, a more aggressive approach to the conflict was likely to lead to bloodshed.

    Yeah, I know. Hopefully, there is a better way than Waco.

    But the FBI could have been gathering information from the start. And should have been. Quietly.

    I’d be surprised if they didn’t have informants or agents within the militias. That is generally how they have operated in the past.

  • Reginald Selkirk

    This is the kind of conflict that should be resolved peaceably in courts of law as well as in the court of public opinion.

    No, I don’t see what public opinion has to do with the fair and uniform application of the law.

  • D. C. Sessions

    Considering the amount of “embedded” media that these fools have encouraged, there’s a great deal of evidence already published to support charges of assault with a deadly weapon on Federal agents in performance of their duties, and I’m sure that there’s plenty more not published.

    Which, combined with the rest of what they’ve done and bragged about, leads me to believe that a prosecutor could go for conspiracy charges against the lot of them.

  • Trebuchet

    @1, raven:

    I’m surprised they weren’t there from day 0. What took them so long?

    What makes you think they weren’t? I’d say its a near certainty they have been investigating all along. Probably investigating some of the wingnut militia members since long before the event.

    @Ed: Congratulations on finally getting Bundy’s first name right.

  • Kermit Sansoo

    The main problem with a new Waco is that it could easily set off “suicide by Fed” scenarios around the country. These folks are so paranoid and starring in their own internalized Red Dawn, that it would be dangerous for a postman to deliver mail to their front door. I can see people dying in cop encounters rather than have “their guns taken away”, because, you know, they wouldn’t be safe without their guns.

  • beezlebubby

    Ed said:

    If they hadn’t shown up by the hundreds with automatic weapons, the matter would have been resolved a few weeks ago.

    They didn’t just “show up”. They were enticed/encouraged to arrive in numbers by the likes of Sean Hannity, who I am 100% convinced was deliberately trying to spark bloodshed for ratings. Too bad he won’t be arrested, indicted, tried and punished for attempting to incite a riot.

  • busterggi

    “Uh, Joe…the courts have already resolved it. ”

    Silly, the only court these folks recognise is presided over by Judge Colt.

  • raven

    I can see people dying in cop encounters rather than have “their guns taken away”, because, you know, they wouldn’t be safe without their guns.

    Already happening.

    Here on the west coast, this has been happening for the past year or so.

    1. Police stop a car for traffic violation.

    2. Guy gets out of the car or pickup truck with a gun and starts shooting.

    3. Police shoot back and kill him.

    This sort of thing happens once or twice a week it seems like.

    They didn’t just “show up”. They were enticed/encouraged to arrive in numbers by the likes of Sean Hannity, who I am 100% convinced was deliberately trying to spark bloodshed for ratings.

    Hannity is just a low level gofer. A spear carrier.

    It was the Koch brothers and their Americans for (their own) Prosperity who encouraged the militias to show up. The oligarchies and the Kochs would love to own the entire USA for obvious reasons. They make their billions digging up and drilling public lands for resources and would like to pay nothing for the privilege and see the EPA get drowned in a bathtub. It’s all just Ayn Randian business.

  • iknklast

    I’m surprised they weren’t there from day 0. What took them so long?

    If it were a teenager sitting in a redwood tree to try to keep the loggers from cutting it down, they would have been there from day one.

  • abb3w

    @12, raven

    This sort of thing happens once or twice a week it seems like.

    On the up side, that’s likely to result in a selective effect, leading to cultural evolution — and a smaller niche for the wackjobs.

  • D. C. Sessions

    Silly, the only court these folks recognise is presided over by Judge Colt.

    Yes and no — I think some of them have wet dreams of being Judge Dredd.