Rafael Cruz Keeps Spewing Nonsense

Ted Cruz’ father, Rafael, is going to be a real problem for him if he runs for president. He loves the spotlight and he has kept up an unstoppable stream of bizarre and extremist statements for years now. Speaking in Massachusetts recently, he dropped a bunch of little nuggets of stupid.

“And let me tell you, the Bible talks a lot about politics,” Rafael Cruz said at an event in Foxborough. “As a matter of fact, did you know that the Bible tells you exactly who to vote for? Very, very clearly the Bible tells you who to vote for. Let me prove it to you.”

Cruz said there were four Biblical qualifications for candidates: “able men, such as fear God, men of truth, hating covetousness.”

Yeah, the Bible says a lot of stupid crap. So what?

Cruz also suggested that the Constitution was reflected in Biblical teachings.

“And only take matters of great importance up to Moses, everything else you handle yourself,” he explained, paraphrasing Exodus 18:22. “In other words, at the local level. That is Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution, that’s the 9th Amendment, and the 10th Amendment. The essence of federalism in two verses of scripture.”

Wow, that would make David Barton proud. Talk about distorting reality. What on earth does that verse have to do with anything in our Constitution? You have to be incredibly ignorant to believe such nonsense.

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  • StevoR : Free West Papua, free Tibet, let the Chagossians return!

    Cruz also suggested that the Constitution was reflected in Biblical teachings.

    “And only take matters of great importance up to Moses, everything else you handle yourself,” he explained, paraphrasing Exodus 18:22

    So, try asking Moses about climate change and the economy of today’s world?

    Dude I’ve a lotta respect for Moses but seriously – and also how?

  • eric

    able men, such as fear God, men of truth, hating covetousness

    Well, that rules all of them out.

  • raven

    Cruz said there were four Biblical qualifications for candidates: “able men, such as fear God, men of truth, hating covetousness.”

    According to Cruz, they all have to be men. That leaves out Sarah Palin and Michele Bachmann as well as the majority of the US population.

    There were no biblical qualifications for candidates. Democracy isn’t mentioned in the bible despite the concept being well known at the time. They didn’t choose their leaders by voting. For much of the biblical time, the Israelis were ruled by outside conquerors.

  • eric

    Ex. 18:21 and 18:22 seem to be extolling the virtues of judicial appointment. Kinda ironic to hear a right winger quoting verses that basically say: let the leader of the nation appoint judges.

  • D. C. Sessions

    I’m still hung up on that “covetnousness” part. Sounds like all of those complaints about jealousy of the job creators is on the wrong track, eh Rafe?

  • StevoR : Free West Papua, free Tibet, let the Chagossians return!

    Exodus 18:22 :

    Jethro Advises Moses

    …21″Furthermore, you shall select out of all the people able men who fear God, men of truth, those who hate dishonest gain; and you shall place these over them as leaders of thousands, of hundreds, of fifties and of tens. 22″Let them judge the people at all times; and let it be that every major dispute they will bring to you, but every minor dispute they themselves will judge. So it will be easier for you, and they will bear the burden with you. 23″If you do this thing and God so commands you, then you will be able to endure, and all these people also will go to their place in peace.”…

    Source : http://biblehub.com/exodus/18-22.htm via google search.

    So :

    1) able men who fear god,

    2) men of truth -okay that rules out politicians everywhere pretty much right?

    3) those who hate dishonest gain; – ditto. Plus most /all televangelists and preachers and conmen and many more.

    4) you shall place these over them as leaders of thousands, of hundreds, of fifties and of tens. – So what about the millions? What’s the US population right now? 318 million by wuiki! That’swell, awee bit more’n’ just thousands ain’t it?

    5) 22″Let them judge the people at all times; and let it be that every major dispute they will bring to you, but every minor dispute they themselves will judge. So it will be easier for you, and they will bear the burden with you. -Don’t that bible also say “thall shalt not judge!” somewhere? Oh well never mind.

    So lesse, take the minor disputes to them to judge and they’ll also take the major issues to you and be judging us all the time anyhow – so you judge the big issues with them watching you but they judge the small things that you bring to them. Clear as fucken mud. Ya sure this crap was divinely writ or whatevs?

    So it will be easier for you, and they will bear the burden with you. 23″If you do this thing and God so commands you, then you will be able to endure, and all these people also will go to their place in peace.”

    Mmm ..kay. Run that by me again. Endure what and god so commands what and what palce and peace with who again ‘zactly?

  • D. C. Sessions

    Mmm ..kay. Run that by me again. Endure what and god so commands what and what palce and peace with who again ‘zactly?

    Read the part before that and it’s a bit clearer. Moses was running himself into the ground trying to micromanage the whole show, and Jethro tells him to delegate.

    Not everything in the scriptures is crap, after all.

  • StevoR : Free West Papua, free Tibet, let the Chagossians return!

    @3. raven :

    There were no biblical qualifications for candidates.

    They were chosen to be king by God and annointed via the prophet Samuel if memory serves. At least Kings Saul & David were.

    Democracy isn’t mentioned in the bible despite the concept being well known at the time.

    Was it really?

    Thought first democracies were ancient Athens and also the vikings ..kinda. No?

    They didn’t choose their leaders by voting. For much of the biblical time, the Israelis were ruled by outside conquerors.

    Also the Patriachs back when they were wandering tribes led by the likes of Abraham and Judah, Judges such as Joshua and other Judge-warriors and tribal chiefs and Kings such as,again, Saul and David and Solomon.

    The prophets were also kinda powerful in a different way too. Not democratic voting though no.

  • StevoR : Free West Papua, free Tibet, let the Chagossians return!

    @7. D. C. Sessions : Fair point.

    Yes, the context there for the circumstances for Moses are clear enough when you look at the larger picture.

    Now applying that to the USA today or even back when its Constitution was created is .. kinda stretching a very long bow still ain’t it?

  • Doc Bill

    Unless the world has changed so very much, Rafael Cruz poses no problem to little Teddy.

    Remember the Carter family. OMG, OMG! Billy Carter? Miss Lillian?

    I lived in England during the Carter administration and every week Punch did a column, a letter from Miss Lillian, painting the Carters (and Americans in general) as gormless hicks.

    And then there was George H.W. Bush who had this nitwit, knucklehead son, George something. That guy.

  • Michael Heath

    Ed writes:

    What on earth does that verse [Exodus 18:22] have to do with anything in our Constitution? You have to be incredibly ignorant to believe such nonsense.

    Well, besides ignorant, I think you’d have to also be some combination of delusional and stupid.

  • dingojack

    Interesting Exodus 18:21 ends with ‘leaders of thousands, leaders of hundreds, rulers of fifties and rulers of tens’ in the Hebrew. So the upper echelons of this feudal hierarchy (for that’s what it is*) are leaders but the lower order are rulers.

    Note each is expect to judge at all times (an intrusive Judicial system of ‘black-robed tyrants’?) but their field of interest over laps the order lower than them (and if they conflict what then? Do the ‘rulers’ overrule the mere ‘leaders’?) and each ‘tin-pot god’ reports only the ‘important stuff’ (how is that determined? Who reports on Judicial malpractice? Who tells the king unpopular things? Or that one of the ‘leaders’ is planning a coup?) to direct the boss, not to the next higher level of authority.

    As a system of governance it’s a primitive, cumbersome and ineffective mess, especially for a country of 313M plus people.

    Dingo

    ——–

    * Similar to the Saxons and other Germanic peoples, Slavonic Peoples etc. in some ways.

    Mycenaen Greece would have meetings where each (of the leaders) got to speak. A far more sophisticated method, in some locations there are hints of the sort of direct democracy found 6 to 7 centuries later in Classical Athens.

  • http://zenoferox.blogspot.com/ Zeno

    Rafael Cruz is a very useful man. He has no inhibitions when it comes to saying what’s on his mind and no talent for sugar-coating or diplomatically framing his craziness. He’s like a window without blinds into the insane asylum that is the modern Republican Party. It puts the rest of us on alert and reminds us of the importance of keeping them out of power.

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    It’s handy that the Bible contains the Constitution. Too bad nobody noticed for a couple thousand years, though.

  • http://polrant@blogspot.com democommie

    And whose word do we have, other than his own, that Rafa El Qruz is REALLY a Cuban émigré?

  • busterggi

    The hell with the qualifiers for candidates, I just want to see where the bible promotes voting at all. The word vote isn’t in any bible dictionary I’ve ever seen.

  • Pen

    These guys in Exodus 18:22 aren’t like the government in the sense of the American constitution anyway. They’re the system of local and national courts, dealing with everything from drunk and disorderly to ‘he stole 100,000 goats from me’. If you could call them government at all, it’s in the law and order enforcement sense. In contemporary terms it says set up a hierarchical series of courts, selecting judges who know what they’re doing, respect our society’s values and ideals, act with integrity and don’t abuse their position. Sounds like a good plan even for politicians, it’s finding them that’s the trouble. Cruz isn’t one.

  • chilidog99

    Where are the Hittites today?

  • had3

    In FEMA camps.