Lapin’s Bizarre Theory on Liberalism and Islam

Rabbi Daniel Lapin is the Christian right’s favorite Jewish wingnut, routinely spewing some of the dumbest things imaginable. He has this rather bizarre and illogical theory about why “feminine liberals” are “drawn” to the “masculinity” of Islam.

“If there is one thing that Islam has proven itself to be, certainly in recent years and even longer ago than that, it is very masculine, it is violent, it is aggressive, it is dominating and it is very firm and very confident and very sure of itself, all of these very masculine characteristics,” Lapin said.

“I believe that liberalism is drawn to it, I think liberals want to be seduced by Islam, I think liberals lay themselves down before masculine strength,” he said, continuing with the sexual analogy. “There is a reason that it is biologically impossible for a woman to rape a man, it can’t be done. And I do believe that a good deal of liberalism’s supine nature with respect to Islam, liberalism’s docility in the face of Islam, has to do with a deep desire to yield to strength.”

Let’s try some of that logical thinking that Lapin is so bad at, whadday say? You know who else reflects those same “masculine” ideals of being dominating? The Christian right (and the Jewish right, as exemplified by Lapin). So why aren’t “feminine liberals” drawn to you? Jesus, these people are ridiculous.

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  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    “I believe that liberalism is drawn to it, I think liberals want to be seduced by Islam, I think liberals lay themselves down before masculine strength,” he said…

    Sounds like he’s talking about Republicans’ attraction to Putin.

  • raven

    …rather bizarre and illogical theory about why “feminine liberals” are “drawn” to the “masculinity” of Islam.

    Starts with a lie and then goes downhill.

    Liberals aren’t necessarily feminine. And they aren’t drawn to Islam. In fact, most are repulsed by it.

    And Islam isn’t “masculine”. Some forms of it are barbaric though. Moslems are killing each other based on sectarian hatreds right now in Pakistan. Aghanistan, Syria, Iraq, and parts of Africa.

  • StevoR : Free West Papua, free Tibet, let the Chagossians return!

    Liberalism is “incredibly feminine” – yeah that explains why Obama was the one who got Osama bin Laden and not say, “Dubya” Bush.

    “There is a reason that it is biologically impossible for a woman to rape a man, it can’t be done.

    I *almost* wish someone would demonstrate on him how that’s not the case. Almost. I don’t because nobody deserves it.

    But, fool, you never held of dildos and /or sodomy?

  • StevoR : Free West Papua, free Tibet, let the Chagossians return!

    I think liberals lay themselves down before (Islamb’s) masculine strength,

    Strength?

    Yeah, nothing says strength and masculinity like being so afraid of women you shoot a scholgirl in the head for trying to get an education or murder a woman in the streets for “dishonouring” tehfamily by deciding for herself ewho she wants to live her her life with or covering women head totoe sotheyr erendered invisible blobs because you just knowyoulack tehstrength to reisst your “masculine” impulses if she shows as muchas an ankle.

    That ain’t strength.

    That is cowardice, craven insecurity and weakness and awareness of total lack of self-control and reasonability, that is.

    Islam for all its bullying is a really gutless and insecure religious ideology. Its nothing to be admired or seduced by. Its crap.

    Muslims are people and have ll teh usual human rights and intrinsic respect that comes with that clasaification.

    But Islam, the ideology and set of memes and misogynist homophobic, downright brutal cultures is shit.

  • matty1

    it is biologically impossible for a woman to rape a man

    No.

    Unfortunately the law, at least in the UK, defines rape as ‘penetration by a penis without consent’ so in that sense women cannot commit rape. However by the more reasonable definition of rape as all sexual intercourse without consent women certainly can and do rape men. This report from the Centre for Disease Control, states:

    The majority of male rape victims (93.3%) reported only male perpetrators. For three of the other

    forms of sexual violence, a majority of male victims reported only female perpetrators: being made to penetrate (79.2%), sexual coercion (83.6%), and unwanted sexual contact (53.1%).

    Incidentally erection and ejaculation are purely physical they do not indicate that a man wants that sexual contact.

  • StevoR : Free West Papua, free Tibet, let the Chagossians return!

    Dammit. Typos. Fix =

    .. Nothing says strength and masculinity like being so afraid of women you shoot a schoolgirl in the head for trying to get an education or murder a woman in the streets for “dishonouring” her family by deciding for herself who she wants to live her her life with or covering women head to toe so they’re rendered invisible blobs because you just know *you weak men* lack the strength to resist your “masculine” impulses if she shows you as much as an ankle.

    Islam is scared of little girls and grown women (eg. Taslima Nasreen, Maryam Namazie, Ayaan Hirsi Ali) being brave.

    How pathetically cowardly and unmanly* that makes them.

    *For whatever value that dubious terminology and idea has.

  • StevoR : Free West Papua, free Tibet, let the Chagossians return!

    .. & no, that doesn’t mean any Muslim men should be harmed or mistreated in any way – just that they should rethink their ideas and give up believing in Islam.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1017276335 Strewth

    I’d just like to be the first to say I’d like to punch this man in the mouth for saying that it is impossible for a woman to rape a man.

  • fmitchell

    Apparently Christians and Jews are the “nice guys” who got “friend zoned” by those stuck-up liberals.

    (Too soon?)

  • Artor

    I’d just like to be the first to say I’d like to punch this man in the mouth for saying that it is impossible for a woman to rape a man.

    How about a re-creation of this scene?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naGOZoHxA-I

  • jonathangray

    You know who else reflects those same “masculine” ideals of being dominating? The Christian right (and the Jewish right, as exemplified by Lapin). So why aren’t “feminine liberals” drawn to you?

    I) Liberalism is power-worship. The Christian right might pay lip-service to ideals of authoritarian dominance but doesn’t really put it into fearsome practice with the regularity exhibited by Islamic militants. So while the liberal finds the Christian right a useful Aunt Sally, she doesn’t really fear it and so despises it.

    II) Liberalism is self-hatred. The liberal specifically desires to abase herself before the ‘other’ in a xenophiliac, ethnomasochistic orgy of abnegation. The Christian right is insufficiently ‘other’ for this purpose.

    III) Liberalism is satanic rebellion against true religion. Naturally the liberal feels an affinity with Islam, just as she did with communism. She will unerringly side with any force hostile to Christianity, even if the cost is her own ruthless subjugation.

  • matty1

    I’ll say it again that jester avatar is perfect – medieval and amusing just how I think of Jonathan Gray.

  • wscott

    it is very masculine, it is violent, it is aggressive, it is dominating

    If that’s his definition of masculinity, no wonder he has problems.

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    jonathangray “The liberal specifically desires to abase herself before the ‘other’ in a xenophiliac, ethnomasochistic orgy of abnegation.”

    To be fair, xenophiliac, ethnomasochistic orgies of abnegation are pretty sweet.

  • Al Dente

    jonathangray @11

    The Christian right might pay lip-service to ideals of authoritarian dominance but doesn’t really put it into fearsome practice with the regularity exhibited by Islamic militants.

    I think your fellow Catholic Augusto Pinochet stands in rebuttal of this silly statement. The Argentinean junta, those friends of Pope Frank, also provide a counter-argument.

  • Kermit Sansoo

    jonathangray: I) Liberalism is power-worship.

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    Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

    [takes breath]

    Bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

    [Wheeeze.]

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    Amaerican Heritage Dictionary

    liberalism

    1. The state or quality of being liberal.

    2. a. A political theory founded on the natural goodness of humans and the autonomy of the individual and favoring civil and political liberties, government by law with the consent of the governed, and protection from arbitrary authority.

    b. often Liberalism The tenets or policies of a Liberal party.

    3. An economic theory in favor of laissez-faire, the free market, and the gold standard.

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    The Christian right might pay lip-service to ideals of authoritarian dominance but doesn’t really put it into fearsome practice with the regularity exhibited by Islamic militants. So while the liberal finds the Christian right a useful Aunt Sally, she doesn’t really fear it and so despises it.

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    Alternatively, we simply hate superstition, bigotry, authoritarian bullying, and relentless indignorance.

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    II) Liberalism is self-hatred. The liberal specifically desires to abase herself before the ‘other’ in a xenophiliac, ethnomasochistic orgy of abnegation. The Christian right is insufficiently ‘other’ for this purpose.

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    I guess if you are xenophobic, the lack of fear and bigotry would look like xenophilia. I suppose for racists, acknowledging even past unfair treatment is “ethnomasochistic. Not man enough to own up to your own errors? Oh right; the Christian way of courage is to ask Jesus to forgive them and not actually fix things with the people they’ve wronged. Real men don’t back down! True Christians never apologize! Those who know the Truth® never learn!

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    III) Liberalism is satanic rebellion against true religion.

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    Since liberals (are you sure you don’t mean humanism?) support science, the arts, and fair treatment of various people, then the True Religion must be ugly, deliberately ignorant, and contemptuous of the democratic process. While I know good Christians who would dispute what you say, my response is that your god can kiss my hairy atheist butt.

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    Naturally the liberal feels an affinity with Islam, just as she did with communism. She will unerringly side with any force hostile to Christianity, even if the cost is her own ruthless subjugation.

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    No, the liberal members of the Abrahamic religions are generally decent, and dismiss the literal truth behind the myths and the values of your god as described in the older books. But the fundamentalists of all three are sexist, racist, vicious, rigid, ignorant, superstitious, and arrogant jerks. Most importantly, you are all pretty much interchangeable. You, Ayatollah Khomeini, Rabbi Lapin, would agree on all of these issues. Go away and stay away from civilized people.

  • raven

    The Christian right might pay lip-service to ideals of authoritarian dominance but doesn’t really put it into fearsome practice with the regularity exhibited by Islamic militants.

    Actually, its because those feminine liberals won’t let them.

    It took a few centuries but we managed to take away the xian’s armies and heavy weapons. Nowadays they are reduced to death threats, terrorism, babbling like loons on the internet, and the occasional assassination.

    The Dark Ages are over with. No one but some wacko xians missed them.

  • Nick Gotts

    jonathangray,

    You really are a completely delusional fuckwit. But aside from that obvious fact, who was the weak-kneed, self-abnegating liberal who is reported to have said:

    But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

    ?

  • laurentweppe

    You know who else reflects those same “masculine” ideals of being dominating? The Christian right (and the Jewish right, as exemplified by Lapin). So why aren’t “feminine liberals” drawn to you?

    Well, they are: see: for Lapin & co, “not wanting to disenfranchise Muslims” = “Drawn to Islam“. Since Liberals have not expressed any desire to disenfranchise Christians nor Jews, one can conclude that they are, indeed, “drawn” to Lapin and his ilk QED