Orrin Hatch Accepts Inevitability of Marriage Equality

Sen. Orrin Hatch has been one of the most conservative members of the U.S. Senate for decades, but he had to fight off a primary challenge from an even further-right Tea Party candidate two years ago. His admission that marriage equality is virtually inevitable won’t win him many fans among the conservative base.

Utah Sen. Orrin Hatch says legal gay marriage is almost certain to become a reality throughout the United States.

“Let’s face it, anybody who does not believe that gay marriage is going to be the law of the land just hasn’t been observing what’s going on,” Hatch said Wednesday on KSL Radio’s “Doug Wright Show.” “There is a question whether [the courts] should be able to tell the states what they can or cannot do with something as important as marriage, but the trend right now in the courts is to permit gay marriage and anybody who doesn’t admit that just isn’t living in the real world.”…

He defended two U.S. district judges: Robert Shelby, whose Dec. 20 ruling overturned the state’s Amendment 3 ban on same-sex marriage, and Dale Kimball, who last week declared that Utah must recognize and uphold all legal rights of the 1,000-plus same-sex couples who wed in the state before a Jan. 6 stay.

While he said he disagreed with their decisions, Hatch described them as excellent judges who were attempting to follow the law.

“We have an excellent federal bench [in Utah]. Other federal judges down there might not have arrived at the same conclusion that these two have. But I think it’s a portent of the future that sooner or later gay marriage is probably going to be approved by the Supreme Court of the United States, certainly as the people in this country move towards it, especially young people. I don’t think that’s the right way to go; on the other hand, I do accept whatever the courts say.”

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  • colnago80

    Well, ole Orrin is 80 years old and would be 84 in 2018 when he would be up for reelection. He may not be planning to run for reelection at that time.

  • http://onhandcomments.blogspot.com/ left0ver1under

    Orrin Hatch has been dragged, kicking and screaming, to accept gay marriage.

    That’s a far cry from what the far right wanted – dragging and kicking gay people until they scream.

  • John Pieret

    No need to wait while Red State is around:

    This is the problem with the French Republicans.

    OK, I haven’t heard this one before. Is this some reference to French/Freedom fries or something else?

    If they exhibited as much alacrity and energy in fighting the left instead of echoing their talking points, their policies would never become inevitable. Yes, we all agree that six years’ worth of refusal to fight against the homosexual agenda will take a toll on our side. It’s become a one-sided fight precisely because of people like Hatch. Hence, we have lost the issue on a federal level. But the notion that we need to sit back and endure it in all 50 states, while being subjected to judicial tyranny is absurd.

    http://www.redstate.com/2014/05/28/orrin-hatch-speaks-french-republicans/

    Of course, if the right had just more vocal then they’ve been against gay marriage, they would have won … because hating has always been such a good PR move … or something!

  • http://artk.typepad.com ArtK

    @ John Pieret quoting Red State

    If they exhibited as much alacrity and energy in fighting the left instead of echoing their talking points, their policies would never become inevitable.

    Example #41597 that their basic assumption is that they’re right and the the only reason that they are losing is because the message isn’t getting out in the right way and/or they’re being sabotaged by outside forces (“judicial activism”.) The idea that their message is repulsive to a lot of people (with the number growing daily), is inconceivable to them.

    How do you talk to someone who can’t admit, even to themselves, that they might be wrong?

  • jba55

    Sen. Hatch: “I don’t think that’s the right way to go; on the other hand, I do accept whatever the courts say”

    Well, this is a refreshing change of pace, usually politicians throw temper tantrums and yell ” ‘zzint fair!!” when the courts decide in a way they don’t like. I’m surprised, pleasantly for once. With any luck this will turn into a trend although I won’t be holding my breath.

    @ArtK #4: “How do you talk to someone who can’t admit, even to themselves, that they might be wrong?”

    In my experience you do it honestly, simply and with mounting frustration.

  • D. C. Sessions

    How do you talk to someone who can’t admit, even to themselves, that they might be wrong?

    That depends. In general, you don’t waste your breath. As the saying goes, the pig likes it and will beat you with experience.

    However, there are exceptions. For instance, if you’re bored you can bait them. It’s not really a nice thing to do but there you are — it can be amusing.

    Alternately, if there is an audience you can ask facially polite and respectful questions that elicit responses demonstrating the extent of the malice, irrationality, and total reality disconnect that moves them.

  • http://www.ponychan.net/chan/dis/ Brony

    @ John Pieret 3

    OK, I haven’t heard this one before. Is this some reference to French/Freedom fries or something else?

    Probably. I’m guessing that RHINO just does not have that insulting zing that they are going for anymore. That’s the problem with slurs with more emotional resonance and a lack of history. If they don’t point at something that goes beyond mere disagreement they need a new on eventually because the effectiveness wears off.

  • Hercules Grytpype-Thynne
    This is the problem with the French Republicans.

    OK, I haven’t heard this one before. Is this some reference to French/Freedom fries or something else?

    I think it’s a reference to the stereotype of French people as wimps who won’t stand up for themselves, as in the epithet “cheese-eating surrender monkeys”.

  • jws1

    I take great pleasure in pointing out the same folks who whipped big bad America’s ass in southeast Asia 40-50 years ago also kicked out the French a decade or so earlier. Who’s the tough guy here, if both candidates are beaten by the same opponent?

  • http://polrant@blogspot.com democommie

    “Orrin Hatch Accepts Inevitability of Marriage Equality.”

    He’s giving up and will submit to the ShariaGAY Mawwiage laws, dumping ALL of his female wives and finding Mr. Right?

  • dingojack

    jws1 – As far as I’m aware the Vietcong make two concrete crosses to commemorate the foreign war dead. One is at Điện Biên Phủ, the other is at Long Tân. Neither is for the Americans.

    Dingo

  • freehand

    When I was growing up in the 1950s and 60s, the French resistance was the epitome of Good Guy machismo. Also, the French were our first allies, and the first significant power to recognize the US (even if it was serving their own purpose). But suddenly the RW loons couldn’t understand that the French might be disagreeing with us in our recent misadventures in the Near East for reasons other than fear.(1) This turn around attitude towards the French is one of many of their 180° reversals in the last 20 years.

    .

    And of course if there is anything driving current RW mania, it’s fear. Well, fear and greed. OK, fear, greed, and bigotry.

    .

    1. Presumably the powers that tell the talking heads which message du jour to deliver understand this much just fine.

  • http://polrant@blogspot.com democommie

    @12:

    I grew up in the 50’s/60’s and the French were reviled by almost all of the adults that I knew–because they wuz fuckin’ commies and they had to have US save their fuckin’ bacon–TWICE–between 1915 and 1945 and they were ingrates and cowards.

    They were as full of shit about that as they were about fluoride, The Beatles, pot and the Vietnam War.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=597316935 ashleybell

    “His admission that marriage equality is virtually inevitable won’t win him many fans among the conservative base.”

    because in teabagland you DO shoot the messenger