MMA Fighter Who Beat Up Christy Mack is an MRA

You may have heard about the MMA fighter who calls himself War Machine brutally beating his ex-girlfriend, porn star Christy Mac, last week after coming to her house and finding her with another man. There have been many disturbing things about the story, especially those who somehow thought the fact that she’s a porn star somehow makes the situation less appalling or more understandable. Even more disturbing are the views this asshole expressed, which put him right in the mainstream of the MRA movement.

He said violence was the ultimate solution to any problem, but boys were discouraged from pursuing their exciting “dream” careers, such as cowboys, fighter pilots, and gladiators.

“Ask yourself what your REAL dream was??” War Machine wrote. “If you gave up on this dream, why? Because of the brainwashing of the Government, that’s why! They taught you to ‘play it safe.’ They told us a responsible man has ONE wife, a house, good credit, good job, and kids. How are you supposed to chase your dreams while maintaining all of that!?”

War Machine complained that American men were subject to some of the worst treatment of any group in history because social norms encouraged them to suppress violent impulses.

“The oppression of MEN is worse than oppression of Jews in Nazi Germany, worse than the slavery of blacks in early America … I’m not exaggerating either,” he said.

In a postscript, War Machine claimed a Holocaust was under way against men, but he said “the oppressor” had learned “learned from history that dead bodies attract too much attention to what’s going on, or YES, there would be millions of dead MEN!”

“The oppressor has learned to kill MEN while their bodies remain alive,” War Machine said. “And with your ‘spirit extinguished’ you’re nothing but a f*cking zombie, a shell of a man, waiting to die. And THAT is just as bad as death itself.”

Sounds like it could have been written on A Voice For Men, doesn’t it? It’s time for this hyper-macho, violent view of the world to die. We’ll all be better off for it.

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  • D. C. Sessions

    It’s time for this hyper-macho, violent view of the world to die. We’ll all be better off for it.

    Think of it as lancing a boil: first you have to let the stinking pus out where everyone can see just how disgusting it is. The the healing can begin.

    Nyah, I don’t buy it either.

  • http://Www.metalmischief.com YOB – Ye Olde Blacksmith

    Who exactly is “the oppressor”?

    Oh, it’s the dreaded “They”. Man, I hate those guys. “They” forgot to let the dog out and now I got a pee stain on my carpet. Curse you, the oppressor! *Shakes fist*

  • http://www.thelosersleague.com theschwa

    ““The oppression of MEN is worse than oppression of Jews in Nazi Germany, worse than the slavery of blacks in early America … I’m not exaggerating either,” he said.”

    I am not a historian, but I think some of those slaves were male. Obviously slavery was not nearly as bad as today where a guy can’t even put his ex in the ER without a big to-do over it. But much worse is it? Does this mean that those male slaves had it DOUBLY bad? Or only 1.5 times as bad? 1.2?

  • Doug Little

    Ask yourself what your REAL dream was?

    To be an astronaut until I found out I was a little too tall and heavy and then went with engineering. Don’t know how this fits in with an ultra violent world view, I could possibly spar with a couple of large automotive robots but they would easily kick my ass.

  • dhall

    “They told us a responsible man has ONE wife, a house, good credit, good job, and kids.”

    If by “they,” he means the government, well, it’s overwhelmingly dominated by men too, so there’s no point blaming women for that. And while people in the US are restricted to just one wife or husband, the government doesn’t mandate anything on that list.

    When it comes to working as a “gladiator,” there hasn’t been any call for that since the end of the classical era about 1600 years ago or so. Unless he thinks that professional wrestling counts.

  • Artor

    The astonishing thing to me is that the MRA guys think their pathetic screeds make them sound manly. All I can think when reading them is what pathetic, insecure weasels they are. I didn’t imagine I could think less of a massive MMA fighter who beats the living shit out of a woman, either intending to murder her, or at least end her career. But then he opened his mouth, and whaddya know? I realize he’s more worthless than I originally thought!

  • howardhershey

    How bad did male slaves have it? Whatever multiple of ‘badness’ they suffered because they were male has to be multiplied by 3/5 like the Constitution says.

  • karmacat

    The irony of course is the men who do the best are the ones who send other men to fight. Its the CEO of the MMA who makes the most money not the fighters

  • John Pieret

    He said violence was the ultimate solution to any problem

    Yeah! I understand that Einstein had to beat the crap out of Newton before he could work out the Theory of Relativity!

  • Anne Fenwick

    howardhershey @7 – I’m not sure your maths does what you want it to do.

  • D. C. Sessions

    Violence is the ultimate solution to every problem?

    The reason we don’t settle everything with violence is because

  • D. C. Sessions
  • http://howlandbolton.com richardelguru

    “He said violence was the ultimate solution to any problem”

    I’m tempted to say “Put him in a cage with a Momma bear and her cub and see if he still agrees with that.” but that would only be a Gedankenexperiment. I was always taught that real men don’t resort to violence.

  • badgersdaughter

    …but that would only be a Gedankenexperiment. I was always taught that real men don’t resort to violence.

    So put him in the cage with the bear gently.

  • eric

    He complains about slavery but says he wants to be a gladiator. Um…

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    Now we know what a concussion thinks.

  • DaveL

    They told us a responsible man has ONE wife, a house, good credit, good job, and kids. How are you supposed to chase your dreams while maintaining all of that!?

    If only we could have some sort of exchange program so that this guy could swap places with a man in a refugee camp on the Syrian border. That way War Machine would be free of the non-violence that kills his inner self and the refugee could experience the oppression of living a peaceful, prosperous life with his loved ones.

  • John Pieret

    So put him in the cage with the bear gently.

    And make it a Kodiak … it’ll be over quicker.

  • eric

    They told us a responsible man has ONE wife, a house, good credit, good job, and kids. How are you supposed to chase your dreams while maintaining all of that!?”

    I love the contradiction in that phrase. Evidently, maintaining one wife is too burdensome but he thinks it would be much easier for him to chase his dreams if he got to maintain three or four.

  • noe1951

    Eric @19, if he had three or four, they could ‘maintain’ him, and he could go be a gladiator or whatever.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1017276335 Strewth

    That actually makes me feel sad. This man has perhaps found he is only good at one thing – fighting – so to assuage his own sense of self-worth he has convinced himself that it is the only thing worth being good at.

    That’s sad. That’s genuinely tragic, that nobody has ever helped him find worth in anything else, and its led him to this state.

  • Chiroptera

    “Ask yourself what your REAL dream was??”

    My real dream was a world without violence.

  • JustaTech

    Yes, please do tell the class how violence is the solution to cancer. Or Ebola. Or TB.

    In addition to being a violent, misogynistic piece of work, he’s unspeakably stupid.

  • Doug Little

    That actually makes me feel sad. This man has perhaps found he is only good at one thing – fighting

    Well to be honest he sounds pretty proficient at shit bombing cells in prison, so he is good at two things. Still probably makes you sad though.

  • raven

    “Ask yourself what your REAL dream was??”

    My real dream was a world without violence.

    My REAL dream now is…to move to a planet without people like War Machine. No fundie xians either. Better climate, more beaches.

    PS This guy just sound flat out crazy. I have a feeling he is going to be spending more and more time in prison for beating up or killing people. Unless he offs himself first. Suicide can be immense anger turned inward.

  • raven

    War Machine complained that American men were subject to some of the worst treatment of any group in history because social norms encouraged them to suppress violent impulses.

    Sure. I doubt that there has ever been a society that lasted that didn’t “suppress violent impulses”.

    It’s called civilization War Machine. You don’t have to live in ours though. Try Somalia or Afghanistan, where violent impulses are poorly suppressed. You probably won’t live long but it doesn’t sound like you are very happy anyway. The two leading occupations are pirate and warlord.

    Other parts of the middle east and parts of Africa would work as well.

    What is so good about violent impulses anyway. You are just as likely to be killed as be the killer. And these days, being a MMA is all but useless. Guns were invented centuries ago and even kids can use one.

  • eric

    This is the sort of guy who, I imagine, would just love the social set-up of Gate Into Women’s Country…well, until he read the ending. That story was pretty much written with his type in mind.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=730511544 billdaniels

    In the 70s Lily Tomlin said that if everyone grew up to be what they wanted to be as a child, the world would be filled with ballerinas and firemen. I don’t think too many boys want to be gladiators when they grow up.

  • jambonpomplemouse

    “their exciting “dream” careers, such as cowboys, fighter pilots, and gladiators.”

    Is there a lot of demand for gladiators in today’s economy? Do little boys even know what a gladiator is?

  • http://howlandbolton.com richardelguru

    @ billdaniels

     

    That might not be a bad thing :-)

  • raven

    Is there a lot of demand for gladiators in today’s economy?

    Yes. But they fight with briefcases, computers, money, lawyers and Ivy League educations. There are many stadiums but the biggest is probably…Wall Street.

    EVen in the ancient Roman world, no one wanted to be a gladiator. They were slaves, trained and forced to fight!!!

    And they didn’t live all that long either. Gladiators were valuable property and their owners tried to keep them alive and going as long as possible. But there is no way to put two people in a stadium with weapons without someone getting killed here and there.

  • http://noadi.etsy.com Noadi

    Going to go into history nerd mode here but plenty of people did want to be gladiators. To the extent that free people were willing to become slaves in order to do it and for those who were slaves against their will being a gladiator was one of the better gigs. Why? Gladiators were the superstars of the day, they got fame, were seen as sex symbols, and they were paid well. A successful gladiator could retire incredibly wealthy.

  • eric

    cowboys, fighter pilots, and gladiators.”

    My life has lately involved a bunch of 3-year old boys, and pretty much none of those things are on the list. Top three would probably be firefighter (Tomlin was right), Thomas the Train conductor, and dinosaur wrangler.

    I’m guessing no number of wives is going to help Mr. Machine accomplish that last one.

  • DaveL

    My real dream was a world without violence.

    I think pretty much every dream, from starring in a rock band to curing cancer, requires a world where it’s socially unacceptable for raging assholes to violently vent their aggression on unsuspecting others. Unless that dream is either:

    A) Violently venting your rage on unsuspecting others; or

    B) Defending yourself against raging assholes.

  • neuroguy

    Even more disturbing are the views this asshole expressed, which put him right in the mainstream of the MRA movement….

    Um, no. This is every bit as much an exaggeration and a lie as to say that the Society for Cutting Up Men is the mainstream of the feminist movement.

  • D. C. Sessions

    I have a feeling he is going to be spending more and more time in prison for beating up or killing people. Unless he offs himself first.

    Every time you get violent with someone, there’s a chance that you’ll get unlucky and end up with a letter-opener (or knitting needle, or bullet) in some vital spot. Make a habit of beating people up and eventually the odds will catch up to you.

  • lorn

    With just a little luck the evil “they”, in this case most likely taking the form of a guy with a badge, will find him a home in the house of many doors where he can debate the issues of the day with like similarly high-strung men. Room. board, and the company of like minded men. So the story does have a happy ending.

  • universalanimosity

    He’s right the violence is the ultimate solution to problems, at least social problems. “Ultimate” means “final”, “furthest,” or “last.” It doesn’t mean “best.” So, he’s right. When all other methods fail (or aren’t even attempted) violence is the final method when it comes to matters of social interaction. Sometimes violence is necessary, and barring extreme genetic modifications to the human species, it’s pretty much always going to be males who are better at it.

    Progressives dislike violence because it is unpleasant, it causes harm, it’s competitive instead of cooperative, and it is inherently non-egalitarian. Because of this, many progressive like to pretend that violence is never necessary or that the tendency toward violence isn’t part of the human psyche. I’m not saying violence is great, but I am saying that sometimes it is needed.

    P.S.: Yes, I realize that some (like the US government) are too quick to use violence in many situations.

  • mikeyk

    He’s upset his porn star girlfriend was with another guy? Did he ever bother to ask her what she did for a living?

  • A. Noyd

    @mikeyk

    I think a guy like Koppenhaver is more than fine with the porn star thing because he knows it’s fake and gets to tell himself that he’s the one who truly satisfies a woman that a zillion other guys can only wank to. Her career speaks to his own prowess. On the other hand, if it turns out another guy (maybe, he imagines, any other guy) can truly satisfy her, then he’s not special after all.

  • speed0spank

    Its probably not fair to blame the mma but they certainly co tribute to the macho alpha dude bro culture, IMO. Joe Rogan is their mc and he is a piece of garbage.

  • speed0spank

    Also I find it telling that every article mentions the woman being a pornstar but I had to read like 7 different ones to find out that War Machine also did porn. Apparently it isn’t as titillating.

  • Jackie

    Does he think all women get to realize their every childhood dream of their future?

    Riiiight. Women have it so easy.

  • Abraham Lincoln

    The only movement War Machine is a spokesman for is the violent psychopaths of the world movement.