Stedman Eviscerates S.E. Cupp

There are few people who irritate me the way S.E. Cupp does and I found her recent comments about how conservative atheists are so much better than liberal ones to be among her most obnoxious and idiotic yet. Chris Stedman pretty much eviscerates her ridiculous claims on the website of the cable network that employs her to make them. On her claim that atheists are not politically disenfranchised:

For instance, a 2014 Pew Research study found that Americans are less likely to vote for an atheist presidential candidate than any other survey category—even if they share that candidate’s political views.

Faring better than atheists: candidates who have engaged in extramarital affairs and those with zero political experience.

And unless she recently had a change of heart, Cupp herself falls in line with the majority of Americans. In 2012 she said, “I would never vote for an atheist president. Ever.”

While atheists are making political inroads, we’re also still on the margins in a number of ways. Cupp concludes the clip by saying, “I think our atheists are better than yours.”

Apparently they’re still not good enough to be president.

Bingo. You can’t claim that atheists are not politically disadvantaged when you’re one of the people actively trying to disadvantage them, despite your (false?) claim to be one of us. On her claim that conservatism is “far more…respectful of atheism than liberalism has been.”

Again, Pew’s surveys suggest otherwise.

While the number of people who say they wouldn’t vote for an atheist candidate sits at 70% among Republicans, that number drops to 42% among Democrats. (“Progressive,” “liberal,” and “Democrat” certainly aren’t synonyms, but there is overlap.)

Of course, conservative hostility toward atheists goes beyond voting for a presidential candidate.

Earlier this year, the group American Atheists announced plans to sponsor a table at CPAC, the country’s largest annual gathering of conservatives. But within hours, after a number of conservatives spoke out against their inclusion, they were promptly uninvited.

Many of the most prominent anti-atheist voices—including Sarah Palin, Erick Erickson, Mike Huckabee and Newt Gingrich—are conservative politicians and commentators, and I have yet to hear many other conservatives (Cupp included) condemn their anti-atheist remarks.

Cupp is, as always, completely full of shit.

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  • Chiroptera

    Although I can respect and admire someone who, in response to a question about religious beliefs, admits to being an atheist. But I would love even more politicians who would answer that their religious beliefs aren’t really anyone else’s business and not relevant to the office.

    I know, I know, but I can dream, can’t I?

  • steve84

    She is probably a crypto-Christian and just waiting for the right time to officially convert and get massive publicity.

  • dingojack

    Damn you Ed — I was hoping your headline was true, literally.

    Dingo

  • D. C. Sessions

    Cupp is, as always, completely full of shit.

    Couldn’t resist, could you Ed?

  • tsig

    Two girls, one Cupp.

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    Conservatives are more tolerant of you Athiests than Liberals are. When we find out you’re an Athiest, we’ll even open the door for you when we kick you out!

     

    steve84 “She is probably a crypto-Christian and just waiting for the right time to officially convert and get massive publicity.”

    I prefer the Positive Feedback Loop Hypothesis. When she says “A”, people pat her on the head and give her a paycheck. When she says “B”, nothing happens, or worse, MSNBC gives her a gig. So she says “A” again.

  • Pierce R. Butler

    And Dave Silverman of American Atheists wants to bring more conservatives into the movement … why?

  • erichoug

    S.E. Cupp is hilarious: “I really wish I could Believe in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. But, I just can’t.

    Why, just last week the ladies in my Bible study class were comforting me and they just said I should just keep praying on it. So, I am just going to keep praying to Jesus and hope that the Good Lord lets me believe in him. Ever since I gave my life to Christ, I have always given all my problems to him and I am sure he will solve this one too.”

    Hilarious!

  • John Pieret

    So the premise is that atheism is more respected by conservatives because conservative atheists give more respect to religion than liberal atheists?

    NOMAD: Examine error. Error.

    Captain Kirk: We’ve got to get rid of it while it’s trying to think.

    Mr. Spock: Your logic was impeccable, Captain. We are in grave danger.

  • AsqJames

    those on the right respect and tolerate atheists more than liberals do.

    To the extent that “tolerate” only applies to things you don’t think are OK she might have a point.

  • a_ray_in_dilbert_space

    Ms. Cupp seems to be lamenting her “god-shaped hole”. Might I suggest a god-shaped sextoy to fill it?

  • Kevin Kehres

    @1

    But I would love even more politicians who would answer that their religious beliefs aren’t really anyone else’s business and not relevant to the office.

    …and add that it’s unConstitutional to even suggest that religion should be a part of the discussion. “No religious test” means “no religious test”.

    Why do these people hate the Constitution?

  • Akira MacKenzie

    Pierce R. Butler @ 7

    And Dave Silverman of American Atheists wants to bring more conservatives into the movement … why?

    More donors for his organization. That, and the notion that there is strength in numbers, even though you’re numbers have been just increased with some of the most despicable people in America. You hear the same bullshit from the MRAs when they whine about the DEEEEEEEEEP RIIIIIIIFFFFTS; to face the religionist hordes we need to be as big and undivided as possible, that means we let every misogynist, capitalist, racist pile of shit who doesn’t believe in a deity into the ranks while telling those who object to shut up.

  • Akira MacKenzie

    BTW, this is Chris “Faithiest” Stedman we’re talking about, correct? Personally, given Stedman’s well-documented loathing for his own kind, I thought he’d be more than happy to defend Cupp’s comments.

  • John Pieret

    Akira MacKenzie @ 13 & 14:

    this is Chris “Faithiest” Stedman we’re talking about, correct?

    while telling those who object to shut up

    I’m more than willing to make differentiations between those on “my side” but what has Stedman done that makes him equal with MRAs? Are you telling Stedman to “shut up”? I’m not following …

  • http://cheapsignals.blogspot.com Gretchen

    Chris Stedman does not loathe atheists, and what do MRAs have to do with any of this?

  • eamick

    …and add that it’s unConstitutional to even suggest that religion should be a part of the discussion. “No religious test” means “no religious test”.

    Sorry, but the Constitution bars statutory religious tests like those that existed in England at the time. And that pesky First Amendment thingy makes barring people from bringing up the subject a bit difficult, especially in a political context, no matter how irrelevant it is.

  • Nemo

    I’m not going to say she’s not really an atheist. Maybe she’s just self-hating.

  • Akira MacKenzie

    Gretchen @ 16.

    Chris Stedman does not loathe atheists…

    You could have fooled me, Gretchen. You could have fooled me…

    …but what has Stedman done that makes him equal with MRAs?

    I was comparing Silverman’s efforts to build up the atheist movement with right-wingers to the deeep riiiifts complaint of the MRAs. My beef with Stedman is a separate issue.

  • Akira MacKenzie

    Whoops, sorry! That second quote was courtesy of John Pieret @ 15.

  • http://www.facebook.com/den.wilson d.c.wilson

    To be fair, an intellectual debate with S. E. Cupp is like bringing a Howitzer to a knife fight.

  • John Pieret

    I was comparing Silverman’s efforts to build up the atheist movement with right-wingers to the deeep riiiifts complaint of the MRAs.

    Ah, I see. You don’t like something that Silverman said and you don’t like something that Stedman said so you just threw them all into a big mix with MRAs. Gottcha!

  • Alex

    @a_ray

    Ms. Cupp seems to be lamenting her “god-shaped hole”. Might I suggest a god-shaped sextoy to fill it?

    No, you might not…


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