Italian Politician Really Needs an Exorcist

An Italian politician who got himself into hot water for a blatantly racist comment about a black government minister, saying she looks like an orangutan, now says that the minister’s father in Africa put a curse on him and he need the pope to send him an exorcist to get rid of the evil spirits who are tormenting him.

Roberto Calderoli, a former minister with the anti-immigration Northern League party, caused outrage last year when he said Cecile Kyenge, Italy’s first black minister, reminded him of an orang-utan. He is now facing prosecution for his remarks.

But he revived the row this month by claiming that Ms Kyenge’s father, who lives in the Republic of Congo, had placed a curse on him.

“I don’t know if I should put an advert in the paper or call (Pope Francis) directly,” he tweeted, “but I must absolutely find an exorcist.”

At a ceremony last year attended by Miss Kyenge’s father, Clement Kikoko Kyenge, in his home village, a prayer was said in which God was asked to free Mr Calderoli from evil thoughts. A photo of Mr Calderoli was then placed before an altar dedicated to the ancestors of the village, and the same request made.

But this month Mr Calderoli said a series of misfortunes he has incurred since then – including six hospital operations, the death of his mother, two broken fingers and two broken veterbrae – proved he had actually been cursed by Mr Kyenge.

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  • steve oberski

    For what ails Roberto Calderoli, the catholic church is the cause, not the cure.

    Oh all right, if not the cause, then the enabler.

    I mean seriously, if one is a moral fuckwit, the solution is not going to come from moral fuckwit central.

    But if you want to deflect attention from your own ethical deficiencies, you can’t do any better than to bring in catholic shock troops.

  • Michael Heath

    At least Roberto Calderoli admits he has a problem, that’s a superior position than the archetypical bigoted Christian.

    Rather than getting an exorcism, I recommend Mr. Calderoli abandon faith and develop positions based on a sufficient set of factual premises that can be credibly defended. Where, “I don’t know”, is a respectable position to take when we don’t have the needed facts to take any sort of confident, credible position.

  • lordshipmayhem

    He doesn’t need an exorcist. He needs a psychiatrist. And Dan Finke’s philosophy courses.

  • Michael Heath

    Roberto Calderoli, a former minister with the anti-immigration Northern League party, caused outrage last year when he said Cecile Kyenge, Italy’s first black minister, reminded him of an orang-utan.

    I don’t find such a conclusion to necessarily be racist. Certainly when we encounter such claims they’re almost always racist, where the motivation appears to be an effort to dehumanize the target and justify they be treated in a manner worse the privileged class that makes such injurious claims.

    But if somebody happily concedes common descent and values life other than humans, I see nothing wrong with claiming such observations if the comparison holds and there’s no contextual effort to harm one’s target. In this case Cecile Kyenge doesn’t more closely resemble an orangutan relative to humans in general. So that is evidence that the motivation is something else.

  • Chiroptera

    But this month Mr Calderoli said a series of misfortunes he has incurred since then – including six hospital operations, the death of his mother, two broken fingers and two broken veterbrae – proved he had actually been cursed by Mr Kyenge.

    I know a very good, kind person who has suffered a string of terrible medical and personal issues over the last several years.

    Sometimes very good people suffer through some terrible luck. Although the only similarity with Calderoli’s situation is the “terrible luck” part.

  • Michael Heath

    steve oberski writes:

    For what ails Roberto Calderoli, the catholic church is the cause, not the cure.

    Oh all right, if not the cause, then the enabler.

    I mean seriously, if one is a moral fuckwit, the solution is not going to come from moral fuckwit central.

    But if you want to deflect attention from your own ethical deficiencies, you can’t do any better than to bring in catholic shock troops.

    A central difference between truly moral people and some religious sects is how they react to defects within their groups. The latter are motivated to defend the faith rather than seek out the root cause of the defect and implement a permanent corrective action that will better eradicate future human suffering.

    We can watch this go on when it comes to how the RCC is handling their systemically abusing children, how biblical inerrantists handling the fact that homosexuality is not a choice or a sin where they abuse gay children congregants, and how the Mars Hill Church hierarchy are dealing with the fall of Mark Driscoll.

    In all three cases we can be confident they’re motivation is to protect their beliefs, even at the expense of future human suffering. That’s because these groups will avoid or deny the systemic defects that cause such failures. In fact the revealing of such defects is often an opportunity by these sects to further commit to the very beliefs that are the systemic root cause that results in such defects. This has been validated scientifically as well, as reported in Chris Mooney’s Republican Brain and cited here in Ed’s blog (though more often when he was at ScienceBlogs).

  • raven

    “I don’t know if I should put an advert in the paper or call (Pope Francis) directly,” he tweeted, “but I must absolutely find an exorcist.”

    This guy is totally out of it. Advert in a paper?

    It’s 2014. There must be a website somewhere, where you can order an exorcism. I’ll try Google;

    First on results list:

    How to Perform a Christian Exorcism: 18 Steps (with Pictures)

    www .wikihow. com › … › Philosophy and Religion › Paranormal Beliefs

    Many individuals and families are troubled by demonic possession — as by a … If you have the power of the Spirit of God Living in you, and you know his Word,

    There you and he go.

  • StevoR : Free West Papua, free Tibet, let the Chagossians return!

    Certainly sounds like Roberto Calderoli’s having a bad run of luck. Not that it makes that comment or interpretation of why its happening right.

    PS. Off topic sorry but : Is Stephen “Darksyde” Andrew okay? Does anyone know? Ed Brayton? He hasn’t blogged in just about a month or so – nothing really new since the update & that was pretty grim. I hope he’s alright. Please let us know. Give him my best wishes if you can.

  • anubisprime

    What came first the curse or the rampant disgusting racist bigotry….?

    The way the OP reads it seems to indicate that…

    Calderoli behaved like an utter imbecile and in a fit of pique thought a government minister reminded him of a orang-utan…

    Later the government minister was visiting her fathers village and it was decided to send healing vibes to the moron and pray for his recovery , presumably to cure him of his mental affliction vis a vis his blatant racism.

    Dumbfuck had a clumsy year and was negligent in losing his mum as well as having operations to fix summat which was apparently entirely unconnected with his stupidity’…

    Probably heard at the same time he was getting busted for being a utter dickhead…

    Ergo…Curse, and concocted some cover story by roping in the RCC…not sure it will work but kudos for the inanity!

  • raven

    WHO HAS DEMONS? EVERYONE! – DemonBuster

    www. demonbuster. com/who.html

    The demons get IN our soul (that’s your mind, will, and emotions). You think, do … “Father, in JESUS’ name I ask you to forgive me of all my sins. I repent … If you don’t believe demons are INSIDE of you, it doesn’t change the fact. Remember the … It should be our goal to get rid of all the demons we are aware of. Paul’s thorn …

    I should have known.

    Who you gonna call? Who you gonna call?

    DEMONBUSTERS!!!

    PS: I put a few words into Google and it wasn’t the best idea for the morning. There are a lot of demon exorcist sites. Some of them are humorous. Most of them are serious and very creepy.

    The Demon Theory of Disease and Mental Illness is still alive and kicking among a lot of xians.

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    He is cursed. An awful person stares back at him whenever he looks in a mirror.

  • magistramarla

    StevoR @8

    I was also worried about Stephen and posted my concern. He e-mailed me right away to say that he was ok.

    I check his blog every day, since it is reassuring to me to know that there are a few progressive voices here in hot, miserable red Texas, so I miss reading his take on things.

    He assured me that he planned to start blogging again soon. I’ll be glad when he does.

  • dukeofomnium

    six hospital operations, the death of his mother, two broken fingers and two broken veterbrae

    In fairness to to Calderoli, that’s much better proof of a demon curse than most “evidence” that’s given. I mean, sure, he’s committing the post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy, but that’s quite a run of demon curses — er, I mean, misfortunes.

  • John Pieret

    And here I thought it was Only In America® that people elected religious loons. Who knew?

    And Modus … perfect as always!

  • tsig

    He is cursed by the demon of stupidity and that’s a lifetime curse.

    (gotta feel a little sorry for the mom just a bit of collateral damage.

  • Michael Heath

    John Pieret writes:

    And Modus … perfect as always!

    In a more just world than this one, modusoperandi’s posts would be coming from someone whose making an insane amount of money and changing millions of minds.

  • jefferylanam

    He was also turned into a newt, but he got better.

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    Michael Heath “In a more just world than this one, modusoperandi’s posts would be coming from someone whose making an insane amount of money and changing millions of minds.”

    Who says I’m not?

  • brucemartin

    Wait, WHAT? Did a former Italian government minister just officially testify that prayer to an ancestor worship altar in the Congo really worked? Doesn’t that mean that Congolese ancestor worship is the ONE TRUE religion?

    But then the Italian says he wants action from the Pope? So does he think the Pope also does Congolese ancestor worship? Or are there TWO true religions? I’m so confused.

    Or, does he mean that all religions are true, as CeeLo Green Imagines?

    But is atheism a religion, as so many people say? So does that mean that atheism is also true? And we know this because the Congolese ancestor worship really really worked? I guess now that we’ve solved the mysteries of the universe, we can all go home and relax now.

  • http://www.facebook.com/luciano.molina.3344 lucianomolina

    Calderoli is always been a fucking idiot and a fucking racist, and he’s a sorry excuse for a human being.

    He’s one of the worst guys of the Northern League party. They despise Southern Italians, Africans, Asians and probably a lot of other people. He also was one of Berlusconi’s best gifts to Italian comedians.

    I’m not even sure he really believes in this curse and it’s not only another excuse to call Kyenge’s father a “savage”.

    Berlusconi is the cause of most of Italy’s present problems but he had a big help from these morons.

    If only I could find a job out of my country.

    Luciano

  • krambc

    But this month Mr Calderoli said a series of misfortunes he has incurred since then – including six hospital operations, the death of his mother, two broken fingers and two broken veterbrae – proved he had actually been cursed by Mr Kyenge.

    Anyone have the contact info for Mr Kyenge ? I have a little list you see.

  • cedrus

    @ 19: From my (fortunately limited) experience with these types, other peoples’ religions are demon-worship, but these demons are within the Christian cosmos. Thus, it’s perfectly reasonable to believe a Congolese ceremony conjured a demon which would respond to a Christian exorcism.

    Yes, that’s an abuse of the word “reasonable”, but what do you expect?

  • Matt G

    No, he’s just an asshole. Actually, he isn’t just an asshole – he’s a lying his ass off asshole.

  • brucemartin

    @22, I thought of that after posting, but I find the implications fascinating. To me, this suggests that he believes that all religions have the true ability to summon the demons of Christianity, and bend them to your will to do real things in the world, as long as they are evil. Yet, so far, no pope or preacher has ever been able to summon any angel or god/Jesus to do so much as a card trick. So, in a way, doesn’t that mean that his beliefs prove that every religion EXCEPT Christianity is true, as long as we view the other religion as an evil form of Christianity.

    This seems like the equivalent of saying that religion can only be used as a force for evil, while nothing can be useful for good. Or, in other words, Christian demon worship is the one true faith according to him. Or, alternatively, he believes that only the Dark Side of the Force is real, just like some Italian Sith Lord.

    Well, I don’t know, but he still looks crazy to me.

  • http://www.facebook.com/luciano.molina.3344 lucianomolina

    In my own opinion Calderoli (and many of his colleagues) aren’t even all that religious themselves.

    They criticized the Catholic Church every time it said something they didn’t like, when it talks about immigrants as an example.

    They call themselves Catholic because they believe it’s part of their traditions.

  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    “I don’t know if I should put an advert in the paper or call (Pope Francis) directly,” he tweeted, “but I must absolutely find an exorcist.”

    If the Pope’s response is anything other than “Grow the fuck up and take some responsibility,” then there’s no hope for the Church.