Fox News’ Breathtaking Double Standard on Beheadings

Eric Boehlert has a long and detailed article comparing the reaction from Fox News hosts concerning the most recent beheadings by Islamist terrorists and the ones that took place when Bush was president. I’m sure it will come as a shock to hear that their rhetoric could not be more contradictory. Today, it’s all Obama’s fault. Back then, it was shameful that anyone would blame Bush for it because of the overwhelming need to unify in opposition to terrorism. Here’s Hannity in June, 2004 after the beheading of Paul Johnson:

HANNITY: Richard, the shrillness of the rhetoric, a vice president of the United States screaming that — Al Gore screaming Bush betrayed America. Are we taking limited resources and the president and his cabinet have to spend all that time fighting politically when they ought to be focused in on World War III? It’s time that we now unite a country, using this as the latest example that we have been warned. They want to kill us all?

RICHARD MINITER: I completely agree. I think politics should stop at the water’s edge. We should go back to the Scoop Jackson Democrats where they would argue like heck about domestic policy, but during a war they would not attack the president or the military.

And O’Reilly:

O’REILLY: It is becoming readily apparent that the United States, we, the people, have to unite. And if we don’t unite, we’re going to see this happen more and more, and then on a mass scale.

We’ve got to stop with the partisan garbage, because that’s what it is, and we’ve got to stop with the selfishness and understand that this is a war. This is something we have never faced before. And stop the grand standing. And the politicians who exploit this for partisan benefit on both sides have got to be voted out of office. We have got to unite.

Unity! We must have unity! No partisan garbage! I’m so surprised.

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  • http://artk.typepad.com ArtK

    I’m surprised that they’re raising the issue at all, given the Saudis’ unsavory habit, and the ownership of Fox. But then, I don’t think that the Saudis are beheading Christians, so it must be ok. Sorcerer: Swing away! Christian: Oh Noes!

  • Chiroptera

    Speaking of double standards, how much air time does Fox “News” give to stories about Christian nations that are killing children as witches? Or Christian Uganda which wants to throw people in jail for being gay, or even for saying that there’s nothing wrong with being gay?

  • StevoR : Free West Papua, free Tibet, let the Chagossians return!

    Meh. I don’t reckon beheading would be that bad. Far worse for the onlookers than the victim.

    If I could choose how I’d die (& yeah, I probably won’t) then beheading would be right up there with firing squad Chinese style. Relatively humane all things considered. Quick , clean, fairly humane. Could be a lot worse.

    Oh & coincidentally just saw the SBS ‘The Feed’ thing on this tnite too :

    http://www.sbs.com.au/thefeed/blog/2014/09/08/beheadings-saudi-arabia

    We all gotta die one day. Justa matter of how and why.

    Not that I’m looking forward to it but.. yeah.

    At least those executed in Saudi Arabia & elsewhere get trials & some kinda justice I think; probly.

    Also everything *is* Obama’s fault, because, because, well it just is dangnabbit!

  • StevoR : Free West Papua, free Tibet, let the Chagossians return!

    PS. Just like everything used t’be Bush Jrs fault – and then Clinton (Bill’s) fore that.

    Always gotta be some scapegoat and, naturall, day POTUS gets th’ blame for what other folks do he (so far still always he) yes?

    T’other guy (let alone the individual commenter) would always have been so very different and perfectly flawless o’course, in da exact same circumstances, natch!

    Or not.

    We’ll never know coz things are what dey are. We cannot change ’em and in a lotta cases thank fuck fa tha’.

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    That’s not fair! Before, they had no idea that everything would be Obama’s fault. If they could, they’d go back and blame Obama back then, too, but they can’t. How long are you going to hold this against them?

  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    Far worse for the onlookers than the victim.

    Yeah, that pretty clearly shows your priorities, asshole.

  • colnago80

    Re StevoR @ #3

    That would be the case if a guillotine were used. However, as I understand it, this was performed by some asshole with a knife. Burning at the stake would probably be worse.

  • busterggi

    Amazing that Faux has double standards, I’d have bet they had none at all.

  • http://artk.typepad.com ArtK

    @StevoR #3:

    Wow. First off, let’s address the “beheading’s not so bad” comment. The Saudis and ISIL (I presume) are using a sword. That’s a notoriously bad way to behead someone. It frequently goes wrong; same with an ax. Guillotin didn’t suggest the machine for giggles and shits, he suggested it because the other methods were deemed inhumane.

    Add to that the fact that the Saudis, at least, don’t seem to be using a block (my delicate sensibilities won’t let me watch the videos, so I can’t confirm it.) That increases the chance of having to take multiple cuts as the body yields under the blow. Here’s an experiment for you. Take a stalk of celery and a sharp, fairly heavy knife. Hold the stalk by the thick end in the air and try to cut it about 4″-5″ away from where you’re holding it. Let me know how many times you get a clean cut and how many times the knife stops part way through, or scrapes along the stalk before catching.

    At least those executed in Saudi Arabia & elsewhere get trials & some kinda justice I think; probly.

    As long as your definition of “some kinda justice” includes the value “None,” then you’re ok. Otherwise, probly not.

    The Saudis executed a man for sorcery. I don’t care what you call the process, “trial”, “justice”, “due process”, but anything that starts from that premise and ends in that result isn’t just in my book. Any “process” that ends up with any punishment for “sorcery” isn’t just.

    It sounds like you ascribe to the SCOTUS definition of “due process,” which is “anything we call a process.” The fact that the inputs to the process were wrong, the process failed to self-correct and the result has no bearing on reality isn’t relevant to them. There was something we called a process and that’s all anyone is entitled to. Not a good process, not an accurate process, not a just process, merely a process.

  • dhall

    StevoR: “At least those executed in Saudi Arabia & elsewhere get trials & some kinda justice I think; probly.”

    Not much of what you say in #3 shows that you have much understanding, much less compassion or empathy for people being brutally executed for no good reasons, but that statement is the worst. It shows no understanding. At what point is being put on trial and condemned to death for sorcery “some kinda justice”? Do you believe sorcery is a real thing? And then blathering about whether beheading is painless or not? Beheading or firing squad. Decisions, decisions. Yeesh.

    #4 is just about incoherent, by the way.

  • http://www.pandasthumb.org Area Man

    Are we taking limited resources and the president and his cabinet have to spend all that time fighting politically when they ought to be focused in on World War III?

    Ah man, I had completely forgotten that wingnut chicken-hawks had tried to rename the War on Terra and the subsequent ill-conceived invasion of Iraq as “WW III”, as if the massive self-importance they attached to themselves and their cause wasn’t enough already. It’s hard to overestimate just how stupid and childish the war’s supporters were back then. Memory has been far too kind.

  • http://theophontes.deviantart.com/art/Tardy-Ak-385824644 theophontes (恶六六六缓步动物)

    Meh. I don’t reckon beheading would be that bad. Far worse for the onlookers than the victim.

    Right out of the gate, you prove to us all, for the umpteenth time, what a dispicable person you are. What is this endless fascination that you have with death and suffering? Why do you constantly need to belittle the victims’ experiences too? Why Ed and Mano constantly put up with your shit is beyond me. You are, by no small measure, filled with the most repugnant ideas ever to grace Free Thought Blogs. We would all be better off if you fucked off and found another soapbox to spew your sickly sentiments from.

    At least those executed in Saudi Arabia & elsewhere get trials & some kinda justice I think; probly.

    Here you are merely trying to justify your hoggling to the suffering of others. You tell yourself its OK to do so because the victims “get trials & some kinda justice I think; probly”.

    We’ll never know coz things are what dey are. We cannot change ‘em and in a lotta cases thank fuck fa tha’.

    What is this new affectation in writing your style?

  • http://theophontes.deviantart.com/art/Tardy-Ak-385824644 theophontes (恶六六六缓步动物)

    in writing your style

    in your writing style