League of the South Starts Paramilitary Group

From the This Can’t Possibly End Well Department, it appears that the racist, secessionist, neo-confederate group League of the South has formed a paramilitary wing. This is important, of course, because they must protect their women from the ravages of people who don’t look just like them.

After years of rhetoric threatening violence, the neo-Confederate League of the South (LOS) is training a uniformed, paramilitary unit tasked with advancing a second southern secession by any means necessary, Hatewatch has learned.

According to anonymous sources from within the LOS, as well as leaked internal communications, the LOS secret unit has been dubbed “The Indomitables”and appears to be stacked with white supremacists, former Klan members and neo-Nazis.

Michael Hill, in a note offered to encourage his Indomitables, said, “We desire that our women and children be warm and snug while the world outside rages. And as our due for that we must face the world.”

The Indomitables were conceptualized at the LOS national meeting earlier this year and appear to be coming online quickly, with Floyd Eric Meadows, 43, of Rome, Ga., who also goes by Eric Thorvaldsson online, in charge of “training,”according to sources within the group and internal documents…

Telephone messages regarding the Indomitables were left with Hill and the LOS this week, specifically to ask how and where the League hopes to use the unit, and to what end. They were not returned. But within a day of those message being left, Hill addressed the question on the LOS blog.

“Even if we are –– and you really have no idea on earth if we are or not ––setting up a Southern militia or some other form of paramilitary organization, we are doing nothing that free men have not done for centuries. Deal with it and stop your whining,”Hill wrote.

Unfortunately for Hill, we do have an idea. Internal Facebook posts leaked to Hatewatch show that Hill is well aware of progress in forming his militia, which he refers to by name…

That is especially true if one takes to heart Hill’s own words, which show an increasing extremism. In an essay published last month on the LOS website, Hill argued that the Second Amendment extends to “weapons systems,” touted guerrilla warfare applications and listed “primary targets”as the fight for a second secession continues.

“The primary targets will not be enemy soldiers; instead, they will be political leaders, members of the hostile media, cultural icons, bureaucrats, and other of the managerial elite without whom the engines of tyranny don’t run,”Hill wrote. He concluded the essay by quoting Psalms: “Blessed be the Lord my strength who teaches my hands to war and my fingers to fight.”

But remember, when the FBI or DHS issues a report about the dangers of far-right domestic terrorism and violence, they’re just trying to slander conservatives who love Jesus and America. Nothing to see here, move along.

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  • laurentweppe

    it appears that the racist, secessionist, neo-confederate group League of the South has formed a paramilitary wing.

    If it makes you feel less alone, far-right activists in Calais, northern France are attempting to form paramilitary militias with the openly stated goal to slaughter the asylum seekers trying to survive in the region.

  • eric

    “The primary targets will not be enemy soldiers; instead, they will be political leaders, members of the hostile media, cultural icons, bureaucrats, and other of the managerial elite without whom the engines of tyranny don’t run,”

    Ah yes, the Tim McVeigh/Charles Manson theory of success: assassinate some innocent low-level functionaries and the whole system will collapse! Kill Bob down the road and tomorrow it will be Thunderdome!

    I’m torn. On one hand, the threat of them killing somone should be taken seriously. On the other, it’s hard not to be dismissive of anyone who thinks such a plan would work.

    ***

    (Aside) I do think what we’re seeing here is representative of a deeper problem that also infects our major parties: the myth of the domino effect. Even our major parties sometimes buy into this notion that if we can just find the correct small action to make, everything will tumble our way. The reality is, most large social changes are going to require large efforts to achieve. Hard slogs. Wars of attrition. In most cases, there is simply no magic domino out there to be found, and when we daydream that there is, we underestimate the resources and time it will take to achieve some goal. We waste time and effort on crazy long-shot actions when we should be committing to more mundane, ‘slow and steady’ policies and strategies.

    You see this now (somewhat) in the discussion over whether we should use drones to assassinate ISIS politicial leaders. That temptation to do it? Its the domino effect whispering in your ear. The most likely effect of such assassinations is that they won’t make ISIS go away, but they will damage international norms against political assassinations.

  • http://denkeensechtna.blogspot.com Deen

    Sometimes makes you wander what happened to “Render unto Caesar”.

  • raven

    Let me guess.

    The uniform will be a white sheet made into a robe with a pillow case for a hat. Covered with xian crosses of course.

    The League of the South is just the KKK with a slightly updated uniform.

  • D. C. Sessions

    The reality is, most large social changes are going to require large efforts to achieve. Hard slogs. Wars of attrition.

    A good example is the American Civil War. After early reversals in the 1860s, it took another 120 years for the South to regain the upper hand.

  • raven

    “The primary targets will not be enemy soldiers; instead, they will be political leaders, members of the hostile media, cultural icons, bureaucrats, and other of the managerial elite without whom the engines of tyranny don’t run,”Hill wrote. He concluded the essay by quoting Psalms: “Blessed be the Lord my strength who teaches my hands to war and my fingers to fight.”

    This is terrorism!!!

    Nothing new here though. Xian terrorism has been a serious problem in the USA for decades.

    The two terrorist attacks nearest my house were both done by xian terrorists. The local xians firebombed the local mosque and some guy got into a shootout with the cops while on his way to bomb an environmental group.

  • Chiroptera

    “The primary targets will not be enemy soldiers….

    So I take it they don’t plan on laying seige to Ft. Sumter?

  • raven

    It’s a matter of time until the militias do something horrible somewhere to somebody.

    You have hate filled guys without much in the way of education and jobs running around with weapons looking for largely imaginary enemies. What could go wrong here?

    Sooner or later someone will go further off their rockers, get drunk, or get bored and start shooting someone for no particular good reason. One of the main targets of Timothy McVeigh ended up being…a day care center for very young children, which happened to be on the ground floor of the Oklahoma federal building.

    On the Mexican border, they’ve already confronted groups that turn out to be Americans doing their jobs. Recently they went after a group of biologists doing some sort of field work.

  • http://www.thelosersleague.com theschwa

    “The primary targets will not be enemy soldiers; instead, they will be political leaders, members of the hostile media, cultural icons…”

    If the LOSers start with the Kardashians as their “cultural icons”, I might start thinking they are not so bad after all…

  • raven

    Armed militia faces off with bat-counting biologists at US …

    RT ‎- 5 days ago

    … American militia patrolling the southwestern US border confronted a group … militia faces off with bat-counting biologists at US-Mexico border.

    Got to watch out for those bat counters. It’s the perfect disguise for ISIL terrorists.

  • johnwoodford

    “We can’t stop here. This is bat country.”

  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    The primary targets will not be enemy soldiers; instead, they will be political leaders, members of the hostile media, cultural icons, bureaucrats, and other of the managerial elite…

    In other words, they’re planning to terrorize public servants, high-profile critics, and whoever else they can quickly intimidate before they get too wide an audience. And each individual incident will help to create a climate of fear. That’s how gangsters operate, and yes, it does work. This is not something to brush off and laugh at — it’s already having an effect, and has been since 1981.

  • Taz

    I used to enjoy playing “army man” when I was a child, but then I grew up.

  • raven

    and yes, it does work.

    In the short term it does.

    In the long term, probably not. The US has usually had a low tolerance for terrorists. In ther end they terrorize a few people, kill a few people, blow up some buildings, and alienate most of the US people while waking the FBI, DHS, and local police out of their slumber.

    The police recently listed Sovereign Citizens as their number one terrorist problem. Because the SC’s have assasinated at least 7 of them.

  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    In the short term it does.

    The “short term” can easily be a generation or more, if there is insufficient immediate response. That’s how it was with the original KKK, and that’s how it tends to be with criminal gangs.

  • D. C. Sessions

    On the Mexican border, they’ve already confronted groups that turn out to be Americans doing their jobs. Recently they went after a group of biologists doing some sort of field work.

    What a surprise. They were, after all, counting bats. And who should show up but the batshit crazy?

  • D. C. Sessions

    The US has usually had a low tolerance for terrorists.

    Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? Are we talking about the same “US” where, for more than four generations, armed militias terrorized large portions (andin some cases the majority) of the population with lynchings, rape, torture, property destruction, slave labor, etc. all without so much as a mild complaint from any level of Government?

    If that’s a “low tolerance for terrorists,” I’d hate to see a country that had a higher one. (Not that there aren’t any, but I do avoid them.)

  • raven

    The “short term” can easily be a generation or more, if there is insufficient immediate response. That’s how it was with the original KKK, and that’s how it tends to be with criminal gangs.

    My experience was with the Weathermen.

    SDS and the anti-Vietnam war movement, of which I was part, did well with nonviolent protests, mass movements. It ultimately gained the support of most of the USA and that pointless war ended.

    The Weathermen kept going. And ended up being a small remnant that no one cared about or liked and accomplished little. Except eventually getting rounded up by the FBI.

  • Pierce R. Butler

    … the LOS secret unit has been dubbed “The Indomitables”…

    Somebody wants to star in a very bad shoot-em-up movie.

    The primary targets will not be enemy soldiers; instead, they will be …

    Hey, that’s not how they did it in Red Dawn (either version)!

    Maybe some of those over-armed police departments really will need their military combat gear.

    The South shall sink again.

  • raven

    Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? Are we talking about the same “US” where, for more than four generations, armed militias terrorized large portions…

    That is true but before my time.

    The KKK doesn’t enjoy a good reputation or have much support these days. It’s synonymous with creepy but potentially dangerous morons.

  • http://skepticalimerick.blogspot.com/ Rich Stage

    I read that first paragraph from the article as “uninformed paramilitary”. It made more sense to me.

  • Trebuchet

    Let me guess.

    The uniform will be a white sheet made into a robe with a pillow case for a hat. Covered with xian crosses of course.

    Now that’s just silly. They’ll have cammo patterned sheets with matchng pointy hoods.

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    According to anonymous sources from within the LOS, as well as leaked internal communications, the LOS secret unit has been dubbed “The Indomitables”and appears to be stacked with white supremacists, former Klan members and neo-Nazis.

    Why’d they pick that name when “The Redeemers” already has so much history?

     

    Deen “Sometimes makes you wander what happened to ‘Render unto Caesar’.”

    Oh, come on! Everybody knows Caesar wasn’t a Kenyan Muslin!

     

    raven “The uniform will be a white sheet made into a robe with a pillow case for a hat. Covered with xian crosses of course.” & Trebuchet “They’ll have cammo patterned sheets with matchng pointy hoods.”

    It’s a wifebeater and, oddly, Daisy Dukes.

  • dingojack

    Modus – what about this earnest-looking guy?

    Dingo

  • cry4turtles

    Perhaps they would’ve got a bigger bang for their buck if they would’ve called themselves “The ISIS of the USA”?

  • D. C. Sessions

    The KKK doesn’t enjoy a good reputation or have much support these days. It’s synonymous with creepy but potentially dangerous morons.

    The KKK served its purpose: it prevented a change to the social order of the South. Reconstruction was reversed in less than a generation, the Fourteenth Amendment was interpreted to provide rights to corporations but not African-Americans, and slavery was converted from an ownership to a rental model.

    By the mid-20th century, the KKK model was obsolete and now serves better as a historical martyr to The Cause.

  • Loqi

    A group of overly-armed and under-educated racists who live in a fantasy wold in which they play freedom fighters struggling against tyranny have formed a special group of overly-armed and under-educated racists who live in a fantasy wold in which they play freedom fighters struggling against tyranny.

  • busterggi

    And some folks wonder why so many progressives find the Confederate flag offensive. They may as well modify the thing by replacing the stars with swastikas.

  • http://www.pandasthumb.org Area Man

    Sounds just like the Red Shirts, both in theory and action.

  • jws1

    Perhaps there’s a silver lining here. Treat white supremacist groups like we do Al Queda; that is, kill their leaders without due process of law and imprison any and all members in Gitmo with no access to private legal counsel or family. We’d get to gut these organizations while also hastening white conservatives to suddenly come to the opinion that Gitmo is wrong.

  • D. C. Sessions

    The KKK doesn’t enjoy a good reputation or have much support these days. It’s synonymous with creepy but potentially dangerous morons.

    The chance of this group being designated as “terrorist” is near enough to zero that the difference isn’t worth discussing. And, no, it really doesn’t matter what they do.

  • D. C. Sessions

    Misquote. Should have been

    Treat white supremacist groups like we do Al Queda

  • jws1

    Oh it matters. See McVeigh, Timothy.

  • D. C. Sessions

    Oh it matters. See McVeigh, Timothy.

    Of course the physical reality matters. In context, I mean that it doesn’t matter what they do because no matter what it is, they won’t be designated “terrorists.”

  • http://www.facebook.com/michael.w.busch michaelbusch

    the neo-Confederate League of the South (LOS) is training a uniformed, paramilitary unit tasked with advancing a second southern secession by any means necessary

    _

    The language here bothers me. “paramilitary unit” and “militia” have meanings that include government-sponsored and -supported organizations: SWAT teams and some other police units, US National Guard, etc.

    _

    But that’s not what LOS is. They’re explicitly engaging in sedition. Nor is it what the various “militia” groups along the US side of the US-Mexico border are doing – that’s “threatening people at gunpoint”.

    _

    What is a better word for such groups?

  • Reginald Selkirk

    What is a better word for such groups?

    Use their own acronym, as already seen in comment #9: LOSers.

  • dhall

    The original KKK existed for a relatively brief period of time after the Civil War, after it was started by half a dozen ex-Confederate soldiers in Tennessee. It spread throughout the South and a lot of people were terrorized, beaten and killed, but the Klan was crushed by military intervention at the behest of President Grant–Custer and the 7th Cavalry were called back east from their skirmishes with Native Americans in Texas and nearby territories, for instance, and an infantry unit was sent as well. Those veteran troops were too much for the Klan, whose members were used to attacking people who couldn’t fight back. However, as mentioned above, it accomplished its goal anyway, by short-circuiting Reconstruction. But it disappeared entirely until the early 1920s, when the movie “Birth of a Nation” portrayed it as some heroic movement saving civilization from the evil ex-slaves and their white enablers. The popularity of the movie led to a new KKK, started by a guy named Simmons in Georgia. That version of the KKK is the one that’s still around, and it’s also the version that expanded their targets to include anyone who wasn’t a WASP, and anyone who seemed to be a communist, essentially. President Wilson loved the movie too, and later, President Harding was an honorary member of the Klan. It wasn’t until some of its leaders were involved in nasty scandals that it lost popularity–one leader in the upper midwest was convicted of various charges after he kidnapped a white woman who turned him down, beat her horribly, and kept her in a hotel room for several days. By the time he took her to a hospital, she was too far gone. The KKK also tried to set up shop in South Bend, Indiana, and ended up seriously aggravating those at Notre Dame U. The Klan tried to explain that they didn’t really mind Irish Catholics, but they wanted to kick the Roman Catholics out of the US. During the Klan parade, the college’s football team went after them. After all of that, and more, their membership numbers tanked along with their popularity, and they were increasingly seen as nasty, if dangerous, idiots, more or less as they’re still seen today.

  • lorn

    I have bad news and I have good.

    The bad: Hiking, camping and enjoying nature I’ve seen packs of guys, typically less than a dozen per group, typically dressed in camo and toting assault rifles. In one particular case I hiked around the bend in a seldom used trail and there they were. Despite trying to act casual and look something like campers when we showed up, they were clearly practicing weapons drills and tactical maneuvers. I played that game for uncle Sam and I know what it looks and sounds like. I hear it going on a considerable distance away and when we rounded the bend we got an eyeful before they saw us and everything go quiet. The head guy was clearly pissed tha their secret training had been observed by “fucking tree huggers”. That was the term used in a hushed voice as we hiked on through.

    My impression was that all of them were white and we had heard the man in charge screaming about ZOG and “mud people” “eating their lunches” and “fucking their daughters” trying to motivate them. They were clearly heavily armed, so many guns and knives that they rattled and clanked when they moved, but we didn’t really feel threatened. Some of the guys seemed moderately happy because it meant they got a minute or two’s rest.

    We smiled, acted dumb and kept to the trail that skirted their clearing.

    The good: They were a sorry lot. A couple young kids armed to the teeth, full of energy and enthusiasm, but clumsy and chock full of all the BS movie tropes about how to stand and look good with big guns. Mostly they were middle age and older, all over weight, most morbidly obese. About half seemed to spend most their time soaked with sweat and out of breath. One had clearly collapsed some time before and had been laid out under a hastily rigged tarp.

    Later in the evening, after our hike, we dropped by a local watering hole on the way out of the forest and there were a couple of guys in camouflage drinking beer and bitching. We sat near them and listened in. They complained that Billy was pushing them to hard and that while they liked hanging with the guys, they weren’t really into all the running and field work. One said that the wouldn’t make the next training day because his wife wanted to visit her family. The other said ” You might have the right idea” and that spending time with his mother in law was better than drill. It was agreed that they both would rather be fishing.

    Militias are an anachronism. They can function as social clubs but, outside of that, they really don’t serve any function. They tend to fall apart as the military activities interferes with the enjoyment of the social atmosphere. In the end it usually comes down to two or three true believers who feel they have to resort to extreme tactics to make up for their lack of numbers. This is paralleled with a shift in rhetoric toward more absolutist and extreme terminology. That progression is completed at about the same time as the less enthusiastic and dedicated members leave.

  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    Militias are an anachronism. They can function as social clubs but, outside of that, they really don’t serve any function.

    Tell that to the families of victims of groups like the KKK. The “sorry lot” you happened to see are not representative of the larger numbers of (mostly) men who have both the physical health and the will to do real harm to less-armed civilians, at least when they can find courage in numbers. Even a morbidly obese moron can aim and fire a gun.