Ben Carson’s Anti-Evolution Stupidity

Ben Carson is in full pander mode and that apparently includes rehashing every idiotic argument he’s ever heard against evolution, including claiming that we have no way of knowing how old the earth is. Seriously, see if you can’t how many absolutely moronic claims he makes in less than three minutes.

In a “Faith & Liberty” interview posted last week, potential GOP presidential candidate Ben Carson discussed his rejection of the theory of evolution, arguing that the science of evolution is a sign of humankind’s arrogance and belief “that they are so smart that if they can’t explain how God did something, then it didn’t happen, which of course means that they’re God. You don’t need a God if you consider yourself capable of explaining everything.”

He claimed that “no one has the knowledge” of the age of the earth “based on the Bible,” adding that “carbon dating and all of these things really don’t mean anything to a God who has the ability to create anything at any point in time.”

Carson pointed to the “complexity of the human brain” as proof that evolution is a myth: “Somebody says that came from a slime pit full of promiscuous biochemicals? I don’t think so.”

He said evolution is unable to explain the development of an eyeball: “Give me a break. According to their scheme, it had to occur over night, it had to be there. I instead say, if you have an intelligent creator, what he does is give his creatures the ability to adapt to the environment so he doesn’t have to start over every fifty years creating all over again.”

How does someone who became a neurosurgeon, who undoubtedly had to take some fairly high level biology courses, manage to remain this staggeringly ignorant?

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  • smrnda

    I think we overestimate the intelligence of people in the medical profession. Physicians are not scientists – they are people whose trade relies on science, but where you can get ahead by being particularly good at applying rote knowledge.

    Not that I’m degrading medicine – engineering is another area where we should accept that engineers are not scientists. Mathematicians aren’t scientists.

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    He’s right. Evolution is false. If it’s true, why aren’t people waking up with extra eyes, like, all the time? Checkmate, evolutionists!

  • Reginald Selkirk

    I knew a prominent biologist who referred to physicians as “bone mechanics.”

  • http://howlandbolton.com richardelguru

    We don’t have to take a drink each time he does do we?

    (That way sever alcoholic poisoning lies)

  • criticaldragon1177

    Ed Brayton,

    If its arrogance to accept evolution, its arrogance to accept reality.

  • criticaldragon1177

    Re #1 smrnda

    You wrote,

    “I think we overestimate the intelligence of people in the medical profession. Physicians are not scientists – they are people whose trade relies on science, but where you can get ahead by being particularly good at applying rote knowledge.

    Not that I’m degrading medicine – engineering is another area where we should accept that engineers are not scientists. Mathematicians aren’t scientists.”

    I know, but its still ironic that he’s denying the very thing that allows him to do his job. If not for the very science he denies people would live much shorter lives, medicine would consist of magic and leaches to get rid of the bad blood.

  • John Pieret

    a sign of humankind’s arrogance and belief that they are so smart that if they can’t explain how God did something, then it didn’t happen

    Well, he got that exactly backwards. It is the creationists who constantly say ‘if science can’t explain abiogenesis or the development of the vertebrate eye, God must have done it. In fact, Carson does that right here.

    Somebody says that came from a slime pit full of promiscuous biochemicals? I don’t think so.

    And you’d be right. But science doesn’t claim that human brains came from a slime pit full of promiscuous biochemicals. We inherited them from our ape ancestors and adapted them to the environment. The apes inherited their brains from lemur-lke creatures and mammals inherited their from reptiles who inherited theirs from fish, etc. etc. adapting them all along the way.

  • Rasalhague

    “that they are so smart that if they can’t explain how God did something, then it didn’t happen, which of course means that they’re God. You don’t need a God if you consider yourself capable of explaining everything.”

    [blinks]

    I’ve read this several times, and I have no idea what he’s trying to say.

  • John Pieret

    I knew a prominent biologist who referred to physicians as “bone mechanics.”

    Or, in the case of Carson and his fellow neurosurgeon, Michael Egnor, “highly skilled meat cutters.”

  • colnago80

    How does someone who became a neurosurgeon, who undoubtedly had to take some fairly high level biology courses, manage to remain this staggeringly ignorant?

    As I have opined previously on this blog and other venues, Carson was a surgeon. Generally speaking, surgeons are somewhat akin to automobile mechanics. Surgeons don’t have to know much about biology to perform their tasks just as automobile mechanics don’t have to know anything about the physics of internal combustion engines to work on car engines.

  • abb3w

    @-1, Ben Carson

    carbon dating and all of these things really don’t mean anything to a God who has the ability to create anything at any point in time.

    Neither would FMRIs, Xrays, and CAT scans, but I suspect he still used them before deciding there were brains inside the skulls he was about to poke around in.

  • garnetstar

    My friend who is an MD told me some of the joking sterotypes that the interns and residents had for different medical specialities. The one for surgeons was “A surgeon’s hands are quick and nimble, a surgeon’s brain could fit in a thimble.”

  • colnago80

    Re garnetstar @ #12

    There are intelligent surgeons. Dr. David Gorski (aka ORAC) for one.

  • D. C. Sessions

    Yes, a god who created billions of galaxies each with billions of stars etc. could indeed have created the universe that we observe six thousand years ago complete with evidence of prior existence. This is hardly a new inference. In fact, it is in principle totally impossible to distinguish between one that was created six hours ago, or six minutes ago, or … from one that began in the Big Bang fourteen-some billion years ago and which has evolved since into the one we observe.

    So, evidently, if we postulate the Creator that Dr. Carson wishes us to, He put a lot of work into making us believe in prior existence. It seems the very height of arrogance to refuse the teaching.

  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    You don’t need a God if you consider yourself capable of explaining everything.

    Translation: everyone who shows more intelligence than me is playing God.

  • John Pieret

    Rasalhague @ 8:

    Allow me to translate from the Wingnut:

    that they are so smart

    Scientists are elitists.

    that if they can’t explain how God did something, then it didn’t happen

    A form of Omphallos, as displayed in his “carbon dating and all of these things really don’t mean anything to a God who has the ability to create anything at any point in time.” Scientists keep insisting on evidence instead of just making shit up and, therefore, they won’t accept goddidit as an explanation for anything.

    which of course means that they’re God. You don’t need a God if you consider yourself capable of explaining everything.

    Scientists are egomaniacal, atheistic elitists.

    Hope that helps.

  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    I think we overestimate the intelligence of people in the medical profession.

    No one is questioning his intelligence — we all know he knows he’s full of shit.

  • Gvlgeologist, FCD

    carbon dating and all of these things really don’t mean anything to a God who has the ability to create anything at any point in time.

    In other words, he admits that the evidence that earth is old “and all of these things” exists. He just doesn’t want to accept it.

    How old is he, again? Six?

  • nemistenem

    Re: comment #1:

    smrdna – I can assure you that those in the medical profession (not trade!) are in fact very intellingent. As a dentist, I know many otherwise very intelligent, caring clinicians who are hopelessly lost in their spiritual mindsets and would guess there are just as many physicians in that same boat. I occasionally get fliers for continuing education classes from the Society of LDS Dentists fercryinoutloud, and one of the most respected speakers in dentistry is a Mormon. I don’t get it, but even very gifted professionals are not immune to the religion virus.

  • nemistenem

    Dammit, I misspelled intelligent!

  • alanb

    A neurosurgeon? Pish posh! I mean it’s not like that’s rocket science or anything.

  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    …even very gifted professionals are not immune to the religion virus.

    Or perhaps the need-to-be-accepted-in-religious-circles virus. It’s very possible that people like Cardin have internalized, or just automatically repeat, the beliefs their patients expect their caregivers to reaffirm for them when they’re hurting and scared.

  • busterggi

    Ease up on Doc Carson – if he stops talking crazy the right wing will notice he’s black and then where will he be?

  • dingojack

    alanb – OK, just one time.

    😀 Dingo

  • Taz

    smrnda –

    Mathematicians aren’t scientists.

    True, but they’re also not technicians in the way that doctors and engineers are. I don’t think mathematicians are any more likely to be science-deniers than scientists.

  • matty1

    He said evolution is unable to explain the development of an eyeball: “Give me a break. According to their scheme, it had to occur over night

    A few hundred thousand years is not overnight to most of us. Maybe he’s a really heavy sleeper.

  • colnago80

    Re Chihuahua @ #24

    Link doesn’t work.

  • dhall

    ‘Carson pointed to the “complexity of the human brain” as proof that evolution is a myth: “Somebody says that came from a slime pit full of promiscuous biochemicals? I don’t think so.”’

    Well, maybe Carson’s brain came from that slime pit. That might explain a lot of things. ‘. . . full of promiscuous biochemicals . . .’ An orgy of proto-microbes?

  • Akira MacKenzie

    Well Dr. Carson is a neurosurgeon who… Ummm,… And he did that one thing … Hmmm… He is responsible for…

    I’m sorry, but other than being one of the GOP’s sychophantic collection of self-hating token non-whites, what has this asshole done that deserves any public noteritey, much less credibility on scientific matters?

  • dingojack

    SLC (#27) – Sorry about that. I’ll try again.

    Dingo

  • dogmeat

    See it actually makes perfect sense.

    1) Nothing says radioactive isotopes have to decay at a specific rate

    2) The heat of those isotopes breaking down faster would have solved the problem of feeding all of the animals on Noah’s ark, a nice bowl of sinner soup three times a day

    3) the radiation also explains how those “Kinds” became all of the beautiful animals we see today, Godly radioactive mutations!

    4) That’s how you do science!

    5) Check-mate Atheist bitches!!!

  • Michael Heath

    dogmeat:

    Check-mate Atheist bitches!!!

    I was actually checkmated today by a Christian church road sign that I drove by.

    The sign stated “God will not be mocked!”. So I mocked God. But then I realized since the Christian god doesn’t exist, I hadn’t mocked him. Heath loses.