Crouse Thinks Jihadists are Right About America

Janice Shaw Crouse, who evidently is no longer with Concerned Women for America after a disagreement over whether to attend an anti-gay conference in Moscow, writes a column at the badly misnamed American Thinker website that combines lies and terrible reasoning to conclude that the Muslim jihadists are right when they say America is weak and corrupt because gays have begun to be treated like human beings. The first sentence is a lie:

Having swept all before them in the aimless societies of the west, the LGBTIQ crowd is in a howling fury with Russia’s pro-family movement for its refusal to capitulate to their gay marriage agenda.

Jesus, you could at least pretend to have a shred of intellectual honesty. The problems in Russia have absolutely nothing to do with gay marriage, which isn’t even a hypothetical possibility at this point. The problem is that Russia throws people in jail just for advocating equal rights for gay people. That is about as totalitarian as it gets — which explains why people like Crouse support such laws.

The Russian forum in its “General Concept” preface succinctly identified the harms caused by the “sensate culture” (a term from Pitirim Sorokin, a famous Russian sociologist who knew well the deleterious effects of a man-centered, atheistic worldview), a modern-day post-Christian dimension in world history: “the destruction of moral standards such as Goodness, Truth, and Beauty and destruction of faith in a Created natural order that distinguishes good from evil.” Such attitudes — “this modern-day ambiguity, relativity, and indeterminacy regarding family” — “creates the threat to the civilized existence of societies.” The Russians declare that “it is high time to talk not only about the role of the family institution in the retention of humanity as a biological species but also about the vital role of [the] natural family in the preservation of civilized society and “ordered liberty.” This transformation is “crucially important especially given the millennial battle between civil society and barbarism, where the latter appears in a highly technological and disguised progressive form contributing to the increasing moral chaos.”…

Their clear unswerving vision of their recent past under Communism enables them to see progressivism as “a new tool of secular, post-modern humanists and sexual radicals to pursue not only their economic interests, but also, ideological, philosophical and political interests.” Russian pro-family leaders recognize that the threats to “the meaning of family in the context of global ideological competition from self-interested post-modern humanists and challenges to the ensure the survival and sovereignty of modern states grows to such an extent that the protection of the classical notions of normative behavior, civilized man, the human family, and definition of marriage have to be enshrined in national constitutions.”…

Now come Obama, Kerry, Clinton and the rest of the LGBTIQ’s claque who bluster, sanction, and slander pro-family Russian leaders; these, however, are persons who see and understand the real threat to their homeland of the depopulation and demographic winter that follow when there is a failure of natural families to flourish.

This depopulation argument just cracks me up. Seriously, do they think that if they just punish and discriminate against gay people enough that they’ll magically become straight and start having lots of babies? Do they think that if they don’t deny them equal rights and throw them in jail for the mere advocacy of equal rights that all the straight people are going to suddenly decide to become gay and stop getting married or having families? The argument is simply idiotic.

Meanwhile, the radical Islamist jihadist have taken the measure of the decadent West with its vast technological superiority (but moral and spiritual bankruptcy) and have decided they can with beat us with suicide bombers. And as long as we are led by thinkers who not only fail to recognize the importance of (but actively fight against) something as elementary and fundamental as the necessity to a society of having the foundational strength of families lead by a mothers and fathers, then perhaps the jihadist are right.

Actually, Crouse undoubtedly thinks the jihadists are right about many things. The jihadists hate gay people as much as she does. Their agenda of destroying the rights and equality of gay people, women and atheists is the same as her agenda.

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  • John Pieret

    destruction of faith in a Created natural order

    It all started with John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, George Washington et al. destroying faith in the Divine Right of Kings.

  • Trebuchet

    “LGBTIQ”? What’s the “I” for?

  • Freodin

    Hasn’t she heard the news? The Jihadis ARE the “LGBTIQ crowd”!

  • Pierce R. Butler

    … the harms caused by the “sensate culture” …

    Crouse prefers the “insensate culture”, in which she is joined by millions of Russian vodka-lovers.

  • Pierce R. Butler

    Trebuchet @ # 2 – Either “intersex” or “immoral”, depending on your orientation.

  • Dave Maier

    “something as elementary and fundamental as the necessity to a society of having the foundational strength of families lead by a mothers and fathers, then perhaps the jihadist are right.”

    You know what else is fundamental to society? Copy editors.

  • kantalope

    “the destruction of moral standards such as Goodness, Truth, and Beauty …”

    Egad, there will be no Goodness or Beauty if two guys from Hackensack get married….oh noes!

  • Francisco Bacopa

    Do they think that if they don’t deny them equal rights and throw them in jail for the mere advocacy of equal rights that all the straight people are going to suddenly decide to become gay and stop getting married or having families?

    Yes, that’s exactly what they think? And you know who would find this plausible? Self-loathing people with repressed same sex attractions. Yes, I know that we’re not supposed to make the “closet-case” accusation, but it sometimes makes so much sense.

    On the other hand, maybe it’s plausible to them because they are deeply dissatisfied with their own vision of how heterosexual relationships are supposed to work, yet they cannot abandon that model because they believe it is God’s will. In this context, homosexuality could look very attractive even those without any same-sex attractions. They see gay people as those who have unfairly escaped the “punishment” of their model of heterosexual relationships. Thus they need the threat of more severe punishments to bring them into line.

    Such a bleak view of the world.

  • raven

    I can’t say the Jihadists have been all that successful.

    1. Well over 90% of their victims have been…other Moslems.

    2. They are quite literally destroying their own societies. These sporadic hot wars destroy a lot of infrastructure. The headlines today say the US coalition is destroying ISIS controlled oil refineries. It takes years, and a lot of skill and money to build those.

    These are poor societies with a precarious hold on the 20th century. Rebuilding their infrastructure is going to take them a long time.

  • dhall

    ‘ . . . the deleterious effects of a man-centered, atheistic worldview . . .” As opposed to the deleterious effects of the man-centered religious worldview, in which the deity tells humans that the planet is theirs to subdue, use up and otherwise trash. Or even a more narrow definition of ‘man-centered,’ in which women are strictly second class creatures or just plain property.

    Beyond that, while there have been suicide attacks by jihadists, and they’ve done damage, both physically and psychologically, they’re a very long way from ‘beating’ the West, as in destroying or conquering it. Terrorism is nasty, and I don’t want to downplay the lives lost or ruined, but the actual threat that it poses shouldn’t be exaggerated either.

  • raven

    ….these, however, are persons who see and understand the real threat to their homeland of the depopulation and demographic winter that follow when there is a failure of natural families to flourish.

    Quite a load of fact free gibberish. It really makes no sense.

    1. The Russians indeed have a low birth rate. It has nothing to do with gay people and everything to do with a not very well off dysfunctional society going nowhere. They do also have a lot of their own version of Oogedy Boogedy xians, aka Russian Orthodox.

    2. The US population however, that land of LGBTIQ’s, does however have a growing population and it will increase for many more decades.

    Just looking at the facts in her simple minded, one dimensional way, the conclusion is inescapable. Russia needs more LGBTIQ’s!!! And fewer religious crackpots!!!

  • raven

    “something as elementary and fundamental as the necessity to a society of having the foundational strength of families lead by a mothers and fathers, then perhaps the jihadist are right.”

    More gibberish.

    The US divorce rate is 50%. It is highest among the fundies who also lead in child sexual abuse. It is lowest among atheists.

    We could improve American families by simply putting the fundies on boats and sending them to Russia. It’s a win-win. We improve our society’s families and Russia gets to replenish its falling population. And the fundies can hate their shriveled little hearts out in a more accepting (to them) country.

  • dhall

    Seems like the Orthodox patriarchs would be the last ones to welcome hordes of American Protestant fundamentalists showing up aboard updated versions of the “Mayflower.” But it would give both the fundamentalists and the patriarchs some new enemies to spend their time hating and fighting, and then maybe the former would stop singing the praises of Putin and leave the rest of us alone.

  • theguy

    So either we have a Christo-fascist society, or we all become Communists?

    The entire screed is so fuckin’ stupid. Crouse is just throwing out a bunch of big words to make the hate-screed sound profound. That’s pretty much SOP for the “American” “Thinker.”

    And this:

    “ordered liberty”

    is just fundie-speak for “the freedom to obey”

    The fact is that the sort of society that Crouse wants would likely be one where gays are beaten and often killed, women are beaten and raped by their husbands, racial and ethnic discrimination would be rampant, and grinding poverty destroys families.

  • corwyn

    Every single same sex marriage I know, bar none, has children (or incipient children).