Perkins: American Christians Just Like Meriam Ibrahim

Sandy Rios of the American Family Association did her radio show live from the Values Voters Summit last week and had Tony Perkins as one of her guests. They agreed that American Christians are facing similar persecution to Meriam Ibrahim did in the Sudan:

The two got things started by talking about Meriam Ibrahim, the Sudanese Christian woman who was imprisoned for refusing to convert to Islam, who will be speaking at the summit tomorrow. Perkins, of course, quickly compared Ibrahim’s plight to the supposed persecution of conservative Christians in America, telling Rios that the story provides a good example to American “Christians who are so quick to go silent on their faith because of the intimidation and the bullying of the left.”

“We’re not backing up, we’re not going anywhere, we’re going to stand and defend our rights as Americans and we’re going to speak the truth,” he said. “We’ll speak it in love but we’re going to speak the truth.”

You’re so brave, Tony, to speak your mind in a country that guarantees you the freedom to do so. Such courage. Oh, and did you know that fairness is neither an American nor a Christian value?

“You know, when we say ‘VVS,’ the ‘values’ does mean values,” Perkins said.

“Not the ones the president describes, this redefinition of, what, multicultural, diversity, fairness, whatever. Those are not American values,” Rios replied.

“Those are the values that lead to a global nondescript society,” Perkins agreed. “That is not what made America an exceptional nation. It is those Judeo-Christian values that made the West distinct from the East.”

Good to know that they don’t consider fairness to be an acceptable value.

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  • John Pieret

    Not the ones the president describes, this redefinition of, what, multicultural, diversity, fairness, whatever. Those are not American values

    Actually, Americans do believe in fairness, which is why they, among other things, tend to see no great harm in allowing creationism in public schools because it is only “fair” that kids hear “both sides.” Of course, there is no other side when it comes to evolution in a science class but it is that impulse that appeals to many Americans.

    What they really want is for all the power to be in the hands of only white Christians who believe as they do.

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    Look, unlike Middle-Eastern countries like Sudan which think they have the “right” to treat out-groups like shit, America’s Exceptionalism includes the Foundational, Judeo-Christian right to treat out-groups like shit. Us Moral Americans know this, and are even willing to team up with you Liberals to prevent the mistreatment of Christians any over there, as long as you Liberals are willing to defend Our right to treat you like shit over here.

  • Morgan

    Being charitable, she’s not saying fairness per se isn’t an American value, but rather “the president’s redefinition of” fairness. You know, “I want fairness, you want special treatment!”.

    On the other hand, this is the movement that came to treat empathy – without any such qualifiers – as a dirty word, so maybe that’s being too charitable.

  • John Pieret

    compared Ibrahim’s plight to the supposed persecution of conservative Christians in America, telling Rios that the story provides a good example to American “Christians who are so quick to go silent on their faith because of the intimidation and the bullying of the left.

    So when was the death sentence pronounced on you. Tony? But never fear, we liberals will be happy to let you leave the country any time you like.

  • Chiroptera

    …the Sudanese Christian woman who was imprisoned for refusing to convert to Islam….

    Which seems to me to be great deal different than one’s business being fined because it denied service to someone.

  • theguy

    Of course, Shitkin’s “Family” “Research” Council is one of the groups that wishes to censor pro-gay speech. Compared to that, there is no “intimidation and the bullying [from] the left.”

    Also, Shitkin’s once worked with white supremacists, so I can safely assume he really doesn’t mean the “Judeo” part of “Judeo-Christian.”

    And whatever a “global nondescript society” means, I think I would prefer it to a society with racist fundies in charge.

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    theguy, I’m a member of the Global Nondescript Society. Most people don’t even notice us or, if they do, fail to recall anything about us afterwards. Even our weekend group, the Society for Uncreative Anachronism, and competitor, the League of Ordinary Gentlemen, are I’ve forgotten what I was talking about.

  • Mobius

    I am so glad to know now that fairness is not an American value. All this time I thought it was.

  • cptdoom

    Never mind fairness not being an American value, I’m more shocked they actually acknowledged they don’t fund diversity to be an American value. What is this, the Know-Nothing party of the 1840s?

  • Artor

    What an incredible insult to Miriam Ibrahim and the shit she had to deal with! Of course, leave it to Perkins to take a genuine example of persecution that has no resemblance at all to what goes on in the US, and claim that he’s suffering just like her. Hey Tony, how much time have you spent in jail for your religion? How many of your relatives have tried to steal your business from you, and succeeded with government help? How often have you been told that your name is not Tony Perkins, and that you are actually a Scientologist, despite never having even considered such a thing?

    None? Never? What a surprise. Now shut the fuck up.

  • eric

    @3

    Being charitable, she’s not saying fairness per se isn’t an American value, but rather “the president’s redefinition of” fairness. You know, “I want fairness, you want special treatment!”.

    Ah, but to reach that conclusion you have to exercise critical thinking skills, which is something the far rigtht also thinks is not an American value.