Kirk Cameron: Education is Inherently Religious

Is it possible that Kirk Cameron is actually becoming dumber? It seems almost impossible, but he’s really on a roll lately at saying things that are just mind-numbingly stupid. Here he is responding to a story about a Maryland school who took Christian holidays off the calendar rather than add Muslim holidays to it:

The Christian actor insisted that Americans in the “heartland” still celebrated Christmas: “We give [our kids] presents and we say, ‘Merry Christmas.’”

Yeah, no one else does that except in the “heartland” — whatever the hell that is.

“What do you think about the minority affecting the majority?” Fox News host Ainsley Earhardt wondered.

“Well, we’re talking about education, and I think problem is that education is inherently religious,” Cameron explained. “What is an education that doesn’t address ultimate questions like, who are we? Why are we here? What’s the meaning of life?”

“And so, if you try to pull religion or faith out of schools, you’re stuck between a rock and a hard place.”

Uh. What?

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  • themadtapper

    a story about a Maryland school who took Christian holidays off the calendar rather than add Muslim holidays to it

    For FSM’s sake, they would rather take their own holiday’s off the calendar than acknowledge the existence of other religions’ holidays? Seriously, even during the most religious points in my past I never saw a calendar with Ramadan listed on it and thought to myself “oh no the Muslims have taken over our calendars!” I can’t even wrap my brain around that kind of xenophobia.

  • raven

    Here he is responding to a story about a Maryland school who took Christian holidays off the calendar rather than add Muslim holidays to it:

    1. My local schools did this decades ago. They don’t have Halloween, Xmas, or Easter on their calendar at all. It’s a Harvest Party, The Holidays, and The Spring Welcome or some such.

    2. I’m not sure what happened. I suspect a few fundies complained about them having a Halloween party so they took that off and took the other ones off as well as being religious.

    They do have Holiday Trees though during the Winter Holidays. I don’t have a problem with that at all. So do I.

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    They removed the Christian holidays rather than add a Muslim one. So, education is inherently religious and important, but spiting the Muslins is importanter. So importanter, in fact, that Christians are willing to cut off their own noses to spite Muslin faces.

    Have you seen Kirk box? His record is 0-100, and all were losses by KO. He keeps on ducking in to his own punches.

  • http://www.electricminstrel.com Brett McCoy

    It’s actually not *a* Maryland school, but the entire Montgomery County Public School system that is removing religious references to holidays. Everyone is still going apeshit over it. It’s certainly not America’s “heartland”, Montgomery County is one of the most liberal (and one of the most affluent) counties in the country.

  • Tracy

    A Kirk Cameron movie that ends with a “hip hop, pop-locking, break dance party scene”? I know what I’m doing this weekend.

  • raven

    I never saw a calendar with Ramadan listed on it and thought to myself “oh no the Muslims have taken over our calendars!”

    They can’t. The Pagans own the American calendar. Most of the months are named for Roman deities and the days of the week for mostly Aesir gods and goddesses. Today is Friday, Frigga or Freya’s day.

    Some schools in areas with large Jewish populations have Jewish holidays on their calendar. Rosh Hoshannah, Yom Kippur, Channuka and so on.

  • John Pieret

    Americans in the “heartland” still celebrated Christmas: “We give [our kids] presents and we say, ‘Merry Christmas.’

    My late atheist wife loved Christmas and wanted to celebrate it (and did) a few days before she died. Kirk Numbnutz can kiss my heartland!

    What is an education that doesn’t address ultimate questions like, who are we? Why are we here? What’s the meaning of life?

    Why, it’s an education instead of a sermon. But wait a minute … we have places to get sermons, don’t we? They’re called … it’s right on the tip of my tongue … churches! … or mosques or synagogues or temples. That’s a little problem isn’t it Kirky? What if the government school was to start teaching that the meaning of life was jihad and getting 72 virgins in heaven?

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    Brett McCoy “It’s actually not *a* Maryland school, but the entire Montgomery County Public School system that is removing religious references to holidays. Everyone is still going apeshit over it. It’s certainly not America’s “heartland”…”

    Well, shit, there goes a good narrative. What next, you’re going to inform us of the non-existence of Santa Claus? *Pout!*

     

    “…Montgomery County is one of the most liberal (and one of the most affluent) counties in the country.”

    They’re so afluent that every year is a Leap Year there. Plus, they file all that Daylight Savings Time as Capital Gains, saving them a bunch in taxes. Man, it must be nice.

  • arakasi

    Up until this year, we had my son in a private school. His kindergarten teacher had them each make a poster about a holiday his/her family celebrated. When I walked through the hallway right around the winter break, I saw:

    3 secular Christmas

    2 religious Christmas

    1 Feast of the Epiphany

    1 Eid al-Adha

    2 Eid al-Fitr

    2 Kwanzaa

    1 Hannakuh

    2 Diwali

    1 Nowruz

    There was a good reason for using non-specific descriptions (Winter Break, Spring Break, Fall Feast) for the holidays

  • jimmiraybob

    “What is an education that doesn’t address ultimate questions like, who are we? Why are we here? What’s the meaning of life?”

    Asking those questions is metaphysics. Answering those questions with absolute certainty is indoctrination. An education without asking those questions is an education without philosophy, literature, music and art. And, I’ll throw in history to help make partial amends for being a butthead in high school history classes. An education answering those questions with God is religion.

  • Childermass

    A memorial for the life of an atheist that I knew a long time ago mentioned her love of the Christmas holiday.

  • matty1

    It is probably part of a good education to raise those kinds of philosophical questions and introduce students to the range of answers that have been suggested, just as it is bad eduction to assert that your preferred answers are fact.

    That said you can go a long way in education without addressing ultimate questions. You don’t need them to learn the 3 Rs, or a second language, or science (at least at school level).

  • Taz

    “Well, we’re talking about education, and I think problem is that education is inherently religious,” Cameron explained…

    …he went to say “that’s why US schools should be modeled after Pakistani madrassas”.

  • besomyka

    who are we? Why are we here? What’s the meaning of life?

    It’s called Philosophy, jackass.

  • laurentweppe

    Education is Inherently Religious

    I must remind you that the previous french president said something very close.

    Which means that for five years, the world’s third largest pile of nukes was under the control of a guy on the same wavelength as Kirk Cameron.

    Happy nightmares.

  • dingojack

    Dear Kirk – just to save you from all that evul secular edumadcation…

    Dingo

  • gog

    The university I go to typically gets the Jewish high holidays off. Jewish students (no measure of observant/orthodox, merely self-reported religious affiliation) year to year is about 30%. That makes the beginning of the semester a bit hectic with early closing and long weekends.

  • gog

    Year to year make up about 30% of the population.

  • sabrekgb

    No, you can’t play. I’m taking my ball and going home.

    Amazing how secularity starts to appeal to some people when it turns out that they aren’t the only religion in town and others start demanding equality. Jeeze, if only we’d learned that lesson earlier…

    And an education that doesn’t address the “big questions” is a lacking education. That’s what philosophy is for. An education that purports to answer them without actual evidence is…a shitty education. Don’t hurt your kids by teaching them what to think instead of how to think. Silly Kirk…

  • dan4

    “the heartland-whatever the hell that is.”

    Uh, “the heartland” is a very well-known and common reference to the Midwestern portion of the United States. You give your critics ammunition when you question someone else’s intelligence (“Is it possible that Kirk Cameron is actually becoming dumber?”), yet, in the same breath, express ignorance about the aforementioned word.

  • dhall

    Is Kevin Sorbo out with a cold, so Kirk Cameron has stepped in as the substitute arrogant yet amazingly ignorant fundie celebrity? Or is there some kind of competition going on?