Apparently, We’re Trying to Control the Minds of Turks

Here’s one of the more bizarre conspiracy theories you’ll ever hear. Apparently some prominent people in Turkey are convinced that the United States is using telepathy to control their minds and make them say things that will get them in trouble. This is evidently not a joke.

The most recent proponent is Salih Izzet Erdis, a militant Islamist who was once sentenced to death for leading a terrorist organization called the Great Eastern Islamic Raiders Front and trying to overthrow the government. A Turkish court gave him a retrial earlier this year and released him, citing new witnesses and evidence.

Erdis appeared in public last week after a closed-door meeting with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and reiterated his long-held claims that outside powers were trying to control his mind and make him do evil things. “While I am speaking you today, they are trying to wield influence on me through the ‘telegram method,’” he told an audience of thousands of people in a conference hall in Istanbul. “As you know, this means mind control.”

Erdis doesn’t speak to the media, but he’s written several books on telepathy as a form of political control, and his lawyer, Hasan Olcer, supports his client’s claims. “This has been going on for 13 years now,” Olcer says. “I saw it: He is forced or manipulated to say bad things that could implicate him [in crimes].”

It is not clear what Erdis and Erdogan talked about before he appeared on stage. But the president is familiar with mind control. The pro-government papers these days are full of stories making similar claims as Erdis. And last year, Yigit Bulut, a newscaster at a pro-government channel, said foreign governments were trying to kill Erdogan using the power of telepathy. A few weeks after his comments, Bulut landed a job as Erdogan’s chief economic adviser.

Well okey dokey. Interesting that this mind-control couldn’t keep him from exposing the fact that his mind is controlled.

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  • Doug Little

    Really? and we call ourselves an intelligent species. I think this guy has been watching too much of American Horror Story Coven.

  • UnknownEric the Apostate

    Jeez, I thought we already told them it’s not our business why Constantinople got the works. People just liked it better that waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyy.

  • Sastra

    Erdis doesn’t speak to the media, but he’s written several books on telepathy as a form of political control, and his lawyer, Hasan Olcer, supports his client’s claims. “This has been going on for 13 years now,” Olcer says. “I saw it: He is forced or manipulated to say bad things that could implicate him [in crimes].”

    It can be very difficult to distinguish between pseudoscience and mental illness. My guess is that the Turkish public (and possibly the “pro-government forces”) are falling for pseudoscience. Erdis himself … is dicier.

  • dhall

    “the ‘telegram method,’”

    I thought Western Union stopped sending those a couple of years ago.

    Then again, why stop at mere telepathy? Why not demonic possession? At least he could then claim no knowledge of anything he said or did, and be cured of that someday through an appropriate exorcism–maybe . . .

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    To be fair, it’s not their fault. They get their textbooks from Texas.

     

    A few weeks after his comments, Bulut landed a job as Erdogan’s chief economic adviser.

    Unfortunately, Hollywood butchered the screenplay it. All that was left of the original story that made it to film was the Mustang/Charger chase through the streets of Safranbolu.

  • http://artk.typepad.com ArtK

    I understand that aluminum foil hats are perfect for this situation. Shall we take up a collection to send him a roll?

  • http://drx.typepad.com Dr X

    No doubt the CIA has also filled his mind with unIslamic sexual desires.

  • fmitchell

    “We used to think that such incidents were caused by jinn or the whisperings of Iblis. Now we know they’re telepathic attacks by foreign sorcerers or CIA mind control lasers.”

  • dingojack

    See this ‘documentary’. Who, exactly, is insane here?

    Dingo

  • anubisprime

    Given that some Turks, well a substantial number, appear more creationist in their world view then the average brain fart sniffers like the denizens of AiG, although citing a different delusion as the mover and shaker, this is no surprise.

    Adnan Oktar seems to be the pied piper in this particular balderdash…the Ottoman empire’s version of Ken Ham presumably, damned embarrassment really considering the ancient History of Turkey…

    Islam is by historical development basically creationist anyway, but that is seen as not as important as ranting about Jihad or homosexuals.

    It just is, and is not really dwelled upon as far as I can tell, Oktar has placed that aspect dead center in his version of the Koran though and is proud of the ignorance it engenders.

    He seems to have some not inconsiderable support from the government, and given their shenanigans recently it can explain a few things,

    What is disturbing that as it becomes ever more apparent that Turkey is sliding irrevocably back into the middle ages in relation to their absolutely lamentable human rights record and general douchbaggery…the European Union head honchos are all hopping fluffy tailed and perky eared at the prospect of welcoming them into the union where they can, no doubt, import this nonsense with them, while getting handsomely paid for it by humungous EU subsidies.

    Wait until the xtian creationists, precious few as it happens in Blighty, and what there is seems to be American import, wake up and realize the Muslim opposition are preaching the same codswallop as they boogie by…a few minds might spontaneously implode.

    So not a bad result all in all…but even so the extra religious tomfoolery on top of the present mish mash would be rather tiring in the extreme….I ask you Darwinian hating Muslims !…who fuckin’ needs it?

  • dingojack

    And what is the basis of this (remote) diagnosis of ‘insanity’? Having (relatively) brown skin?!?

    Need I say more?

    Dingo.

  • tsig

    ^^^^^^^

    The CIA made you say that.

  • Sastra

    dingojack #11 wrote:

    And what is the basis of this (remote) diagnosis of ‘insanity’?

    I didn’t diagnose Erdis as mentally ill, I said that the line between a pseudoscience which is commonly accepted and a more personal psychological problem is … dicier. Hard to tell. We have here a gentleman who has apparently been insisting for 13 years that other people have been reading his mind and forcing him to do things he doesn’t want to. This sounds to me suspiciously like a form of paranoid schizophrenia. Is it? I’m not a psychologist and — more important — I’m not his psychologist. But I wouldn’t rule it out.

    The same problem crops up in religions and spiritual belief systems which involve hearing voices, magical thinking, performing rituals, and finding significance or messages in seemingly spurious connections. These are culturally taught and encouraged — but they also mimic schizophrenia or other mental issues. People who do need psychiatric help can be surprisingly successful (sometimes as leaders) or get seriously lost in such systems (though it’s interesting that members can still usually pick them out.)

  • LightningRose

    UnknownEric @#2,

    It’s nobody’s business but the Turks!

  • abb3w

    @6, ArtK

    I understand that aluminum foil hats are perfect for this situation. Shall we take up a collection to send him a roll?

    That would be mean. A MIT study showed that aluminum foil caps actually act as antennas that amplify reception near the bands that the goverment has restricted for use in their mind control broadcasts.

  • John Pieret

    A Turkish court gave him a retrial earlier this year and released him, citing new witnesses …

    Psychiatrists?

    Here’s one of the more bizarre conspiracy theories you’ll ever hear.

    Not as long as our own right wing nutjobs exist.

  • eric

    Damn, they’re on to us. Better flouridate their water until they’re pacified!

  • http://www.facebook.com/den.wilson d.c.wilson

    I didn’t realize Alex Jones’ show was carried in Istanbul.

  • hrafn

    If he can be controlled to say things, why can’t he also be controlled not to realise that he’s being controlled?

  • =8)-DX

    Actually, anubisprime: potential EU membership does cause cultural and political shifts. Last I heard the Turks stopped shooting dogs and started paying more attention to worker’s rights when the EU bothered them with entry conditions. Its our “lets muddle through together and pretend were all friends here” form of diplomacy.

  • grumpyoldfart

    A man tells lies in court while trying to evade a prison sentence.

    When has that ever happened before?

  • dingojack

    Sastra – I apologise for my earlier comment, it was early in the AM.

    Dingo

  • Nick Gotts

    anubisprime@10,

    The chances of Turkey being admitted to the EU are roughly the same as those of a declared socialist winning the American Presidency.

  • dingojack

    Speaking of Turkey

    It might explain why all this talk of mind-control.

    Dingo

  • anubisprime

    =8)-DX @ 20

    Turks stopped shooting dogs and started paying more attention to worker’s rights when the EU bothered them with entry conditions.

    But Turkey politics are a tussle between an overbearing military and Islamists of varying hues.

    Human rights are still routinely abused.

    Dozens of journalists still languish in jail.

    Amnesty International’s annual report is filled with accounts of torture, free speech violations, denial of minority rights, unfair trials, failure to protect women.

    Not insurmountable given an inordinate amount of time, after all they have been negotiating entry for a decade and conditions do not seem to be really improving significantly accept in minor adjustments…but definitely not prime Euro material at the moment…if ever!

    As a sop to Turkish ego it appears the European song contest has been opened to them for several years…the argument being the usual mantra of engagement with Europe will pursued them to straighten up and fly level.

    Not a great success as it happens and the same mantra was reiterated during the last Olympic games in Russia…again a resounding flop and we all see just how much Russia was impressed by Western decadent living and ever so liberal ways in their present grump and dick swinging mood.

    The main surprise was that Turkey’s application is being taken so seriously.

    It seems it is being pursued, not sure they will be welcomed with open arms by the rest of the populace of Europe but there you go!