This May Be the Final Death Blow to Irony

Of all of the dishonest and hypocritical statements by the defenders of torture in the wake of the release of the Senate Intelligence Committee’s report on the matter, this statement from former CIA Director Michael Hayden could destroy every irony meter that ever has or ever will exist:

“Let’s get to the report itself, which reads far more like a prosecutorial screed than it does some reasoned document as to what went on there. I mean, this is a bill of attainder. This is accusations. You know the people at CIA were never interviewed, not me, not the other directors. No one actively involved in this program was ever interviewed by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence staff. It’s as if we were tried and convicted in absentia. We were not given an opportunity to mount a defense. And there was no discovery process by which alleged evidence could be revealed and challenged.”

Hey, you know where all of those things could take place? You know where he could be afforded all the due process protections of the Constitution, including the right not to be tortured for information, the right to an attorney and a fair trial, the right to question his accusers and mount a defense to the charges against him? At a criminal trial. But that isn’t going to happen, of course, because we have a president who continues to do everything he can to prevent such trials from taking place.

But imagine what his response would be if he actually was subjected to a criminal trial. Imagine if he was given all of those protections that he denies to everyone else. I’m willing to bet his outrage at that would be far more hyperbolic than his outrage at the release of a report. This is a man who has argued for indefinite detention, for drone strikes and for every other appalling policy in the war on terror. And now he demands the very due process he argues against for others. And if he got it, he’d be even more angry about that.

I think I may need to rename the Bryan Fischer Award to the Michael Hayden Award.

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  • colnago80

    Hey, he was just following orders; like Adolph Eichmann.

  • D. C. Sessions

    This is a man who has argued for indefinite detention, for drone strikes and for every other appalling policy in the war on of terror.

    It needs renaming.

  • D. C. Sessions

    Damn. Should have been a close tag after “of.”

  • scienceavenger

    I’m willing to bet his outrage at that would be far more hyperbolic than his outrage at the release of a report. …And now he demands the very due process he argues against for others. And if he got it, he’d be even more angry about that.

    I’ll take Assuming Facts Not in Evidence for $1,000 Alex. In this target-rich environment there’s no need to stoop to GOP methods of treating idle speculation as fact, or hypocrisy above wrongdoing.

  • DonDueed

    After “on”, I should think.

  • doublereed

    Is he… asking for a trial?

    By all means, Hayden. Let’s do it.

  • dingojack

    Our Attorney General, George Brandis, was heckled by none other than David Hicks. Senator Brandis didn’t answer any of Mr Hicks questions, unsurprisingly.

    Dingo

  • colnago80

    Re dingojack @ #7

    It would help if Chihuahua informed us who David Hicks is.

  • Georgia Sam

    I was appalled that NPR had Hayden on as the pro-torture advocate in a debate about the Senate report, and failed to challenge him even once about the multiple occasions on which he lied to Congress.

  • dingojack

    I forgot you’ve spent the last 15 years meticulously examining the lining of your own rectum.

    (There’s this thing called the internet now. On the Internet, they have these things called search engines…. @@)

    Dingo

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    Georgia Sam “I was appalled that NPR had Hayden on as the pro-torture advocate in a debate about the Senate report, and failed to challenge him even once about the multiple occasions on which he lied to Congress.”

    Typical Liberal Media!

  • colnago80

    Re dingojack @ #10

    Go play in traffic.

  • dingojack

    And yet another devastating come-back from Potsie…

    @@

    Dingo

  • John Pieret

    We were not given an opportunity to mount a defense. And there was no discovery process by which alleged evidence could be revealed and challenged.

    Well, Mr. Hayden, come right over here and make yourself comfy on this board and we’ll review the evidence with you. Would you like some water before we start? …

  • Doug Little

    BOOM!

  • D. C. Sessions

    He wants a formal process to clear his name? Conveniently, there is such a process already established and there’s even a way for him to invoke it himself. No frustrating wait for a prosecutor, either. Being a flag officer, he might even have heard of it.

    It’s called a “Board of Inquiry.” In the more honor-bound corners of the United States military, it’s customary for an officer to request one where events might be interpreted to cast doubt on him .

    Alas, either General Hayden has no recourse to such a Board, has forgotten that they exist, or has reason to fear the conclusions of one.

  • dugglebogey

    The man is demanding an opportunity to defend himself.

    This can be arranged, if that’s what he really really wants.

  • dingojack

    Well since he’s a fan of Medieval barbarism I demand it be Trial by Torture. He’d be cool with that, right?

    Dingo

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1006121976 doncates

    “Trial by Torture”? You can’t use that word; I believe the appropriate euphemism is ‘Ordeal’.

  • marcus

    Shorter Hayden: “Oh boo hoo! I had people tortured to death and now they’re saying mean things about me!”

    If Hayden is crying for justice…

  • John Pieret

    doncates:

    “Trial by Torture”? You can’t use that word; I believe the appropriate euphemism is ‘Ordeal’.

    No, no! It is “Trial by Enhanced Interrogation.”

  • Kimpatsu

    And now he demands the very due process he argues against for others.

    This is something that I’ve been saying for years. When right-wingers decry “politically correct” judges, etc., what they really mean is they want full due process for themselves, but to deny the same due process to those demograpnics they don’t like (Muslims, Irish travellers, etc.)

  • Freodin

    What a bunch of optimists you all are!

    These guys don’t want “due process”. They don’t want the constitutionally established judicial trials to publically defend themselves against accusations.

    They just want tp point out that they hadn’t been given chance to defend themselves, and thus any accusations should be quietly disregarded without them having to defend themselves at all!

  • sailor1031

    If they didn’t want to be criticised they shouldn’t have written those six-million odd documents that the Senate investigation combed through to get the facts. None of this is speculation; all of it came from the CIA’s own records FFS.

  • dingojack

    sailor1031 – “The banality of evil”.

    Dingo

    ———

    If it ever comes to trial (and that’s a BIG IF) – expect a lot of: “Ich habe nur Befehle befolgt”.