Boykin’s Ingenious Plan to Defeat Islam

Retired Lt. Gen. Jerry Boykin has an ingenious plan for defeating Islam once and for all: Tell them that they’re wrong and Christians are right. Because I’m sure they’ve never heard that devastating argument before. If only more Christians would proselytize them, they’d all convert immediately.

He said that Christians have to tell Muslims that they are “sinning” just as one would tell a son living with his girlfriend that he is not “okay with God”:

“We have to stand against evil. It’s like when your neighbor is sinning and do you love him, do you love him enough to tell him he’s sinning? Do you love him enough, one of your children, to tell them that what they’re doing is wrong, living with his girlfriend is a sin? Do you love him that much or are you going to take the easy way out and not tell him and let him go on thinking that he’s okay with God because he really loves this girl he’s living with?”

“We’ve got to love the Muslims enough to stand up against the evil that we see them perpetrating in the name of Allah, but at the same time we’ve got to offer them the Gospel of Jesus Christ in one way or another,” he added.

Yeah, good luck with that.

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  • Michael Heath

    I agree with Mr. Boykin that if Christians actually loved humanity, they’d figure out the optimal methods to proselytize non-Christians and the ‘wrong kind’ of Christians. That’d be to warn the ‘un-saved’ that Jesus will be sending them to Hell to suffer unimaginably for all eternity.

    If Hell-believing Christians were demonstrably moral and not evil, they’d also lament their belief that Jesus extorts humanity to submit to him, or else it’s off to Hell to join Hitchens. This belief, contra the Bible’s claim, is not justice and it’s certainly not grace. Instead it’s the most evil extortion conspiracy concocted by humans – or least in any arguable Top X list.

  • StevoR

    .. we’ve got to offer them the Gospel of Jesus Christ in one way or another.”

    Guess it would really surprise him to learn they’ve already heard it and ain’t convinced eh?

    .. let him go on thinking that he’s okay with God because he really loves this girl he’s living with?”

    What if your neighbour ain’t living with a girl but his partner is a man instead? Or your neighbour is a “girl” who is also living happily with another “girl” or woman? Or your neighbour is gender-fluid or pansexual or asexual or .. so many other possibilities? In any case, aside from sheer lack of imagination as displayed here, what business is it of yours, Jerry Boykin Retired Lt. Gen. (FWIW), to pry into and demand the right to organise your neighbours sex and marital life?

    I think Jerry Boykin’s metaphorical (?) neighbour – like the rest of us – would probably rightfully tell him to go get fucked! (& not in a good way.)

    ” Christians have to tell Muslims that they are “sinning”

    Reckon he gives his Jewish and Hindu and atheist neighbours the same not-so-sage (nor even rosemary or even horseradish or stinging nettle) advice?

  • dingojack

    And if it were the other way around Jerry? How would you react exactly?

    Hmmm…. didn’t think it thorough did you Jezza, colour me surprised!

    Dingo

  • anubisprime

    Genius…they should all get behind that fantastic idea, maybe go on a crusade or two..oh wait!

  • http://artk.typepad.com ArtK

    If the message isn’t getting through, shout louder. It couldn’t possibly be because the message itself is flawed, could it?

  • Larry

    Give it a shot, Jerr. There are plenty of them living in the mountains of Afghanistan hungering for the word. Why don’t you pop on over and show how its done. And no protective military contingents, please. Your love of Jebus should be all you need.

  • Jared James

    I think we should all pay lots more attention to the general so religiously besotted he was fired by President Bush. Yes, the younger, evangelical President Bush.

  • marcus

    The unsaid. “And if we have to kill a few hundred thousand of them to save their souls… then we will, and we will do it because we love them sooooooo much”.

  • Anri

    Y’see, those drone strikes were delivered with love.

    Can’t help it if some people don’t appreciate it.

  • sailor1031

    “And if we have to kill a few hundred thousand of them to save their souls… then we will, and we will do it because we love them sooooooo much”.

    Just like the crusades against the Albigensians. RCC Inc just loved them heretics so much they had to save their souls even if it killed them.

    It’s scary that in the US Army this guy got to be a 3-star. A lot of real generals never got that far.

  • Sastra

    Years ago I read an interview with an extremist Muslim cleric who’d been jailed in the US for taking a key part in some bit of terrorist violence. He explained that he and his fellow Muslims had little to no problem with Christian fundamentalists and their attempts to convert them. That’s fine. They recognized and appreciated the Christian’s commitment to faith and clean, pure, moral living. No, their issue was with secularism and secularists and the wicked things it allows.

    So Boykins’ plan of proselytizing alone wouldn’t necessarily make anything worse. The dicey part is that “…we’ve got to offer them the Gospel of Jesus Christ in one way or another” part. It doesn’t preclude force or violence.

  • a2audrey

    I agree totally wth Jerry.

    That’s why I never hesitate to tell my Christian neighbor that he’s a lost sinner because he doesn’t revere the marinara properly or worship the pasta correctly. I know he doesn’t use the anointed strainer in his prep and that it will lead to him suffering eternally in a vat of Alfredo.

    It hasn’t converted him yet, but I have faith!

  • http://howlandbolton.com richardelguru

    “just as one would tell a son living with his girlfriend that he is not “okay with God”:”

    Where DO they get this idea? Adam and Eve weren’t married (or at least it’s not mentioned that they were) and that seemed to be OK with godman, unlike apple scrumping.

  • thebookofdave

    Maybe Jerry’s onto something. Have any of us even thought about simply talking Christian fundamentalists out of their irrational beliefs? I wonder if that argument could be modified to suit us…

    “You don’t have to be a lifelong slave to superstition.”

    Wow, great argument! I’m convinced. Fellas, this changes everything, and we have Jerry Boykin to thank for it. It’s time to hit the streets and free the indoctrinated sheeple. Tell your friends about it, too!

  • eric

    let him go on thinking that he’s okay with God because he really loves this girl he’s living with?”

    OMG, you can’t let him think that Jesus was all about the love. That would be sacrilege! Heresy!

  • John Hinkle

    We have to stand against evil. It’s like when your neighbor is sinning and do you love him, do you love him enough to tell him he’s sinning? Do you love him enough, one of your children, to tell them that what they’re doing is wrong, living with his girlfriend is a sin?

    It’d be inspirational if Boykin would tell us his story of not having sex until he was married.

  • Kermit Sansoo

    I wonder if his military skills are as civilized, effective, and informed as his proselytizing skills?

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    I wonder how the number of his own children he has driven away compares to the number of Muslims he has converted?

  • http://festeringscabofrealityblogspot.com fifthdentist

    I’m all for setting up a fund to fly as many fundies as want to make the trip to the Muslim country of their choice to proselytize in Jesus’ name.

  • sheikh mahandi

    The other thing that Boykin forgets (never knew? Probably does not care about) is that anyone converting from Islam in many of these countries would be subject to a death sentence for apostasy. Which might prove to be a bit of a disincentive.