Bill Donohue Supports Muslim Killers

While making clear that he condemns the actual murder of the staff at French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo, Catholic League theocrat Bill Donohue nonetheless says we “can’t tolerate” that magazine’s “disgusting” mockery of religion.

Killing in response to insult, no matter how gross, must be unequivocally condemned. That is why what happened in Paris cannot be tolerated. But neither should we tolerate the kind of intolerance that provoked this violent reaction.

Those who work at this newspaper have a long and disgusting record of going way beyond the mere lampooning of public figures, and this is especially true of their depictions of religious figures. For example, they have shown nuns masturbating and popes wearing condoms. They have also shown Muhammad in pornographic poses.

While some Muslims today object to any depiction of the Prophet, others do not. Moreover, visual representations of him are not proscribed by the Koran. What unites Muslims in their anger against Charlie Hebdo is the vulgar manner in which Muhammad has been portrayed. What they object to is being intentionally insulted over the course of many years. On this aspect, I am in total agreement with them.

Stephane Charbonnier, the paper’s publisher, was killed today in the slaughter. It is too bad that he didn’t understand the role he played in his tragic death. In 2012, when asked why he insults Muslims, he said, “Muhammad isn’t sacred to me.” Had he not been so narcissistic, he may still be alive. Muhammad isn’t sacred to me, either, but it would never occur to me to deliberately insult Muslims by trashing him.

So he condemns the methods — wink, wink — but he blames the victims of this brutal slaughter for their own deaths. Religious fascists of all stripes stick together to defend the “principle” that no one else has a right to say or do anything that offends them. Fuck them all.

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  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    First he says this act of terrorism must be “unequivocally condemned;” then, in the very same paragraph, he equivocates his condemnation. This guy is a liar, a hypocrite, and a shameless supporter of violent religious bigotry. If this, at least, doesn’t get the Catholic Church to disown him as an “unofficial” spokesman, that will prove the Church is irredeemably corrupt and devoid of either a moral compass or a sense of shame.

  • Francisco Bacopa

    Donohue has the biggest case of fatwa envy ever. After all, it was only a few hundred years ago that Catholics could do this kind of thing with the full backing of state power.

  • whheydt

    Hey, Bill…your attitudes offend me, so shut up.

  • Anne Fenwick

    Well, he and his religion offend me regularly. Doesn’t he understand the role he plays in anything I might decide to do to him?

    I know that’s limited to mocking him, when I can be bothered. But… it’s the mockery he doesn’t like, right, so why doesn’t he understand the role he’s playing in producing the mockery he doesn’t like by being so offensive?

  • eric

    To be fair, he doesn’t just victim-blame irreligious cartoonists. He also victim-blames women.

  • colnago80

    Re Raging Bee @ #1

    If this, at least, doesn’t get the Catholic Church to disown him as an “unofficial” spokesman, that will prove the Church is irredeemably corrupt and devoid of either a moral compass or a sense of shame.

    Come on Bee, the Raping Children Church has been a totally corrupt and criminal organization for centuries now.

  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    While some Muslims today object to any depiction of the Prophet, others do not. Moreover, visual representations of him are not proscribed by the Koran. What unites Muslims in their anger against Charlie Hebdo is the vulgar manner in which Muhammad has been portrayed. What they object to is being intentionally insulted over the course of many years. On this aspect, I am in total agreement with them.

    So now he’s an unofficial spokesman for Muslim as well as Catholic beliefs. And he says he’s in “total agreement” with the stated reason for the murder of a bunch of unarmed cartoonists.

    It is too bad that he didn’t understand the role he played in his tragic death.

    Ah yes, blame the victim of a violent crime AND sneer over his grave at his alleged ignorance. Religious manipulation at its most disgusting.

    In 2012, when asked why he insults Muslims, he said, “Muhammad isn’t sacred to me.” Had he not been so narcissistic, he may still be alive. Muhammad isn’t sacred to me, either…

    So if someone else is less than reverent toward Mohammed, it’s “narcissistic,” but it’s perfectly okay for Donahue? Is this guy even grown-up enough to be called a hypocrite?

  • wreck

    “… that will prove the Church is irredeemably corrupt and devoid of either a moral compass or a sense of shame.”

    I thought that was already obvious.

  • http://www.pandasthumb.org Area Man

    For example, they have shown nuns masturbating and popes wearing condoms.

    And here, we get to the one thing that Donohue really cares about.

  • Alverant

    Muhammad isn’t sacred to me, either, but it would never occur to me to deliberately insult Muslims by trashing him.

    I doubt that. You don’t mind trashing everything else about muslims,

  • http://artk.typepad.com ArtK

    Donohue has no trouble supporting child rapists, so this one doesn’t surprise me in the least. I think he’s just jealous that he can’t inspire his followers to do something similar. I’m sure that he cheers any time a Planned Parenthood clinic is attacked.

  • cptdoom

    @whheydt #3 – But because Donohue has “sincerely held religious beliefs” he is allowed to offend anyone who might offend those beliefs. Sheesh, it’s like you don’t understand that freedom is only for those people who Donohue, at the moment, think are worthy.

    Certainly if someone were to do violence to Donohue because of all the offensive crap he’s spewed over the years, he wouldn’t believe it was justified, and also wouldn’t get the irony, either.

  • theguy

    Shitahue has also said some nasty anti-Semitic crap too. The bastard’s in no position to whine about offensive speech.

  • Reginald Selkirk

    For example, they have shown … popes wearing condoms.

    FWIW, this bit is factually incorrect.

  • http://artk.typepad.com ArtK

    @ Reginald Selkirk

    Please, it’s what they would have done, had they only thought about it. It’s really the same thing as actually doing it.

  • dugglebogey

    If those little boys didn’t want to be raped by those priests, they shouldn’t have dressed so provocatively.

  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    Yes, theguy, but his offensive speech was thoughtful and serious, unlike the satire and cartoons his terrorist chums were objecting to. That makes it acceptable.

  • wreck

    “they have shown nuns masturbating and popes wearing condoms”

    He must have them confused with my old garage band, Holy Father Trojan and the Little Sisters of Clitoral Stimulation.

  • CR Jackels

    Fuck you bill, fuck you.

  • Crimson Clupeidae

    I heard mohammed likes to take it in the ass, but he makes the pope wear a condom when he does.

    I think that covers the bases. Not nearly as offensive as religion itself that supports assholes like bill and his ilk.

  • http://artk.typepad.com ArtK

    Apparently, The Donald has weighed in on this too. Blaming Obama (via releases from Gitmo) and pandering to the pro-ammosexual lobby as well.

  • eric

    Apparently, The Donald has weighed in on this too. Blaming Obama…

    And Salon has used the opportunity to bash Dawkins. Disgusting. Frankly, the opportunists leave me feeling more disgusted than the victim-blamers.

  • http://saltycurrent.blogspot.com SC (Salty Current), OM

    If this, at least, doesn’t get the Catholic Church to disown him as an “unofficial” spokesman, that will prove the Church is irredeemably corrupt and devoid of either a moral compass or a sense of shame.

    The Pope said a public prayer for the victims today.

  • anubisprime

    Weird when a nasty fucking katolik’ pimp like ‘donkeybreath’ suddenly finds the Islamic faith to be worthy of being deemed a genuine religion, therefore capable of being offended righteously, and not automatically classified as an evil heathen cult on a hissy fit?

    When did donkeybreath’ get to hand wringing over Muslim sensibilities?

    Ahh …when is suits his delusional sycophancy…ok folks as you were!

  • Tobinius

    But neither should we tolerate the kind of intolerance that provoked this violent reaction.

    The intolerance of religion provoked this violent reaction, so I’m with Bill on this one – we should definitely not tolerate it anymore!

  • dingojack

    Tobinius – no, what caused this is the dogmatic belief in a ‘revealed’ or ‘received’ absolute truth. That, and the instructions that this absolute ‘truth’ could, and should be defended, morally, by mass murder.

    “… it was done by arrogance, it was done by dogma, it was done ignorance. When people believe they have absolute knowledge, with no test in reality, this is how they behave. This is what men do when they aspire to the knowledge of gods.”

    See here

  • lorn

    An alternate spelling of:

    “Had he not been so narcissistic, he may still be alive. Muhammad isn’t sacred to me, either, but it would never occur to me to deliberately insult Muslims by trashing him.”

    Is: Rape is bad, but she was begging for it wearing …

  • lancifer

    “…neither should we tolerate the kind of intolerance…”

    Seriously, did he just say we can’t tolerate intolerance? Oxymoron much?

  • Tobinius

    Dingojack @ 26 – Yeah, that was my point. It was religion that was intolerant in this horrible event, not the magazine. But I can see how what I wrote could be taken the other way.

  • Anri

    Once again, demonstrating the near-truism that when a public statement begins with “(Premise), but…” everything before the “but” can be ignored.

    This does make me want to know what form Bill’s “lack of tolerance” of a satirical magazine would take, since violence and ridicule are both off of the table. He could boycott it, I guess…? (Yes, I know, he only thinks this particular kind of violence should be off the table. The good old-fashioned cops-kick-your-door-down kinda violence, well, that’s all in the name of public decency, isn’t it?)

  • dingojack

    Sorry, I got the wrong impression of what you were saying.

    Dingo

  • Doug Little

    God I wish this dude would just hurry up and fucking die. Meet your maker Bill, what’s holding you up?

  • caseloweraz

    Donohue: Stephane Charbonnier, the paper’s publisher, was killed today in the slaughter. It is too bad that he didn’t understand the role he played in his tragic death. In 2012, when asked why he insults Muslims, he said, “Muhammad isn’t sacred to me.” Had he not been so narcissistic, he may still be alive. Muhammad isn’t sacred to me, either, but it would never occur to me to deliberately insult Muslims by trashing him.

    Muhammad isn’t sacred to him? Then why does he conclude that insulting Muhammad is a fatal mistake? Oh, of course: it’s because giving permission to insult Muhammad is giving permission to insult Catholics also.

    Strange bedfellows indeed.

    BTW: I assume Donohue’s last sentence is supposed to be part of the quote.

  • dingojack

    Shorter Billo: What you call jihad, I call crusade*…

    Dingo

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    * or perhaps – pogrom