Jones, Monckton: ‘They’ Want to Kill 6 Billion People

“Lord” Christopher Monckton went on the air with Alex Jones the other day and you just know that combination is going to spout some seriously bizarre claims. They agreed that They — meaning everyone they hate, from environmentalists to Muslims — are going to kill more than 6 billion people.

Monckton connected the dots between the two issues, alleging that radical Islamists, socialists and environmentalists are all coming together to kill billions of people in order to achieve the United Nations/Ted Turner objective of reducing the world’s population.

“What they want to do is reduce the population not by one billion but to one billion,” he said. “It’s now 7.2 billion, they want to cut the population by 6.2 billion…. It’s a conspiracy.”

“They are ganging up together, the totalitarians, Islam and socialism and environmentalism, worldwide, getting into bed together to destroy as many of the world’s population as they can,” he added.

Funny, I thought the purpose of environmentalism was to save lives by reducing pollution.

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  • raven

    FWIW, this is a staple of the lunatic fringer conspiracy theorists. It’s Alex Jones’es favorite fantasy.

    “They”, usually the New World Order, will reduce the world’s population by 90% or so. “They” are everyone that matters, the Illuminati, the UN, the Masons, the Bilderbergers, the Rothschilds, plus anyone else they can even imagine.

    “They” aren’t very competent though. Despite the unceasing efforts of everyone who matters, the world’s population keeps on increasing.

    AFAICT, these are frightened people living in a fantasy world populated by malevolent forces out to get them. The reality is that few people know who they are and even fewer care one bit.

  • Michael Heath

    The U.N.’s Agenda 21 is proving to be an effective method to keep conservative Christians in sync with the Republican party and one of its key clients, the coal industry. Especially when the demagogues falsely connect environmentalists to Muslims (read black people too!).

    People I know in meat-world write letters to their state and federal legislators and our last state rep., Greg MacMasters, led the effort in the Michigan state House to oppose Agenda 21. His efforts didn’t go anywhere nor did they need to, it wasn’t about passing legislation but instead keeping conservative Christian sheeple in line with the party’s objectives in servicing its financial constituents.

    I point this out because while Alex Jones and Chris Monckton are demonstrably nuts, but effectively in terms of the implications of this behavior if carried out, so is the GOP and the legislators from the GOP. That’s the scary part, that conservative Christian voters have far more in common with Jones and Monckton then they do with well-informed voters that are also scientifically literate.

  • eric

    FWIW, this is a staple of the lunatic fringer conspiracy theorists. It’s Alex Jones’es favorite fantasy.

    It could be getting a bump from Syfy’s airing of “13 Monkeys” as a TV series. IIRC, the original movie also cased a bit of a tizzy in the tin hat brigade. ‘Hollywood liberals are preparing us for what they plan to do!!! 111eleventy!!”

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    Six billion? That’s all? Come on, all you TotaIslamoSociEnvironmentalists, we can do better!

  • grumpyoldfart

    With 6.2 billion dead and out of their houses, there won’t be much work for builders for the next few thousand years. Better find a new trade.

  • caseloweraz

    And the irony is that the surer way to bring about a drastic population crash in the future is to follow the policies that TVMOB advocates. I don’t say such a population crash is definitely in the cards, but it looks likely if business as usual continues.

    BTW: Calling Lord Monckton “TVMOB” has advantages: fewer characters, a subtle derogatory connotation, and no need to ignore criticism of your habit of putting his title in quotation marks.

  • busterggi

    Can Monckton name just one Islamic socialist government? All the ones I know are either run by royalty or are theocratic/military dictatorships. And none are known for their commitment to the environment either.

  • abb3w

    This bizarre worry seems a by-product of the “Limits to Growth” report from the Club of Rome, via (based on poking Google) some skew from Lyndon LaRouche. It seems worth noting that LaRouche (1) still ain’t dead yet and (2) appears to continue self-identifying as a Democrat — though many of his policy positions seem to line up nearer to the GOP platform. I suspect there’s some meme drift across the left-right divide from the “populist” channels.

  • Trebuchet

    Oh “Lord”….

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    busterggi “Can Monckton name just one Islamic socialist government?”

    THATS EASY: ALL OF THEM!!!

  • DaveL

    Ah, yes, good old Agenda 21. Supposedly we’re 23 years in to a master plan to exterminate most of the human race and bring the rest under the dominion of a worldwide communist government, and all we have to show for it are 1.5 billion more people, some electric buses, and bicycle lanes.

  • http://www.pandasthumb.org Area Man

    Can Monckton name just one Islamic socialist government?

    Well, the Ba’ath party was/is socialist, and is still nominally in control of Syria (though like in Iraq, its policies are determined by the strongman with little regard for ideology). However, it can’t be called “Islamic” in any reasonable sense of the term, other than its members being Muslims. The party is secular and is detested by Islamists.

    Of course, the main problem we’re running into here is that nutcases like Jones and Monckton can’t accept that secular Muslims and Islamists are very different people with different agendas, even when they hate each other and go to war. Heck, they can’t even accept that Western liberals and Islamists are different people, in spite of being polar opposites in terms culture and political belief (they just spin new conspiracy theories to explain away the many inconsistencies that arise).

  • Taz

    You do see those signs everywhere:

    “Reduce – Reuse – Recycle – Genocide”

  • Scr… Archivist

    In 120 years, all of those 6.2 billion people will be dead anyway. It’s just a matter of time….

  • StevoR

    Funny, I thought the purpose of environmentalism was to save lives by reducing pollution.

    Actually I’d have said the purpose of environmentalism was preserving the natural environment for future generations (& ourselves) to enjoy and keeping the maximum biodiversity around to avoid other species (plant, animal and fungi and more) going extinct wherever possible.

    ” the totalitarians, Islam and socialism and environmentalism,” – Monckton

    Spot the odd one out? At least one of those isn’t totalitarian at all. Environmentalism is in no way totalitarian or even really to do with governance at all.

    ALthough I guess you could also make a case for Socialism being non-totalitarian intheory and many forms of practice with Stalinism/ Lenininsm/ Maoism / fidel-ism etc .. being exceptions to the rule there and Islam is a religion which like Socialism comes in a whole range of very varied “flavours” from extremist Jihadi Salafist totalitarians throgh to persecuted and non- violent Sufi groups. (for want of a better word.)

    Who exactly do these clowns think is going to do this? The UN, perhaps tehwekaest and most flawed global organisation since the league of nations and arguably even further back? Because the y could’be even enforce their safe havens in Bosnia and prevent genocide there and in Rwanda, and in Syria now et cetera.

  • StevoR

    @^ YYargh! Teh typoos! Correction make that : The UN, perhaps the weakest and most horribly flawed global organisation since the League of Nations and arguably even further back? Because they couldn’t even enforce their safe havens in Bosnia ..

    @8. abb3w :

    This bizarre worry seems a by-product of the “Limits to Growth” report from the Club of Rome, via (based on poking Google) some skew from Lyndon LaRouche. It seems worth noting that LaRouche (1) still ain’t dead yet and (2) appears to continue self-identifying as a Democrat — though many of his policy positions seem to line up nearer to the GOP platform. I suspect there’s some meme drift across the left-right divide from the “populist” channels.

    I may well be mistaken here but aren’t the LaRouchies and their founder also fanatically opposed to the British royal family and by extension the British aristocracy? Don’t they have some sort of conspiracy theory ideation that casts them and the banks and o’course tehJooozz!! as main villains” or am I thinking of another mob here? If so then strange for them to be in cahoots with an English “lord” – almost as strange a Monckton seemingly arguing as though he’s supporting the average person against those getting richer and richer there .

    @7. busterggi :

    Can Monckton name just one Islamic socialist government? All the ones I know are either run by royalty or are theocratic/military dictatorships.

    Well, there was the unlamented former Libyan dictator Colonel Gaddafi (or however you spell it) according to wikipedia along with a whole bunch of others :

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_socialism

    Plus the Somalian dictatorship of Siad Barre back in the 1970’s which went a step further into trying to fuse Marxism and Islam. The wikilist includes a variety of familiar and unfamiliar names in their list of Muslim socialists from Benazhir Bhutto and Indonesias Sukarno through to Malala Yousufzai (Huh?), Gamal Nasser and Yasser Arafat.

  • colnago80

    Re StevoR

    Actually, the economic system in the former Soviet Union as it evolved under Stalin had little to do with Marxism and would have appalled ole Karl. In actually fact, it was state capitalism. Leon Trotsky had it right.

  • abb3w

    @16, StevoR

    I may well be mistaken here but aren’t the LaRouchies and their founder also fanatically opposed to the British royal family and by extension the British aristocracy? Don’t they have some sort of conspiracy theory ideation that casts them and the banks and o’course tehJooozz!! as main villains” or am I thinking of another mob here?

    Ayep — although there’s a school of thought which suggests that he merely refers to “the British” as a dog whistle code for “the Jews”.

    @16, StevoR

    If so then strange for them to be in cahoots with an English “lord” – almost as strange a Monckton seemingly arguing as though he’s supporting the average person against those getting richer and richer there .

    Well, it may not precisely be “cahoots”, but merely visiting the same watering holes.

    LaRouche published a book called “There Are No Limits to Growth” (which appears to have a PDF here — apparently authorized, as it’s linked to fromthe Larouche PAC website), giving some brief and specious criticism to the non-technical version of the Club of Rome report, “The Limits to Growth”. (It gives no mention to the technical report — the “Dynamics of Growth in a Finite World” — despite having been out for over a decade.) The bulk of the material is instead devoted to paranoid-style (massively name-dropping) rantings about the motives behind it, and worries about world government. The fundamentalist obsession with Revelation 13:1-8, and Larouche framing much of his language and examples in religious terms, would seem to give the book an entry to the fundamentalist demographic. As his book seems a relatively disjoint and ununified piece of work, it’s relatively easy for fundamentalists to excerpt ideas which resonate, and pass them along without association to ideas which don’t. EG, the idea that the Club Of Rome is part of a plot seeking to create a genocidal world government is rather extricable from Larouche’s “demonstrating” how it is tied to the leadership of the British Empire. Which explains Mockton.

    However, I’ll note that Larouche has a really broad-spectrum of crazy. I need to take a closer look, but some of his ideas seem to instead associate more with the nerdish techno-singularity — which flavor of obsession I’ve encountered some in skeptic circles.

  • Kermit Sansoo

    Oh, Lord! Monckton has the same trouble religious fundamentalists do – they can’t distinguish between claiming “X ix desirable” and “I will do everything in my power to bring it about”.

    .

    We have too many people on this planet. One billion or so would be desirable and possible, I think. But that’s because I am dubious about this planet supporting more than that for any indefinite period. Those whose desired policies would kill 6,000,000 of us are precisely those who deny population is a problem, especially if they are also in denial about global warming and other non-sustainable processes. I would like to see the population reduced thru various financial and other incentives. Instead, Business As Usual will insure that the traditional methods are used: war, plague, pestilence, and famine. And a new Horseman, weather disasters (flood, heat waves,, and storms).

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    http://tinyurl.com/k5ztxo6