Another Idiot Thinks Dearborn is a ‘No-Go Zone’

If you had Tony Perkins in the pool as the next bigoted dumbass to claim that Dearborn, Michigan is a “Muslim no-go zone,” claim your prize. Fox News may have apologized several times for making that claim about Europe, but the real wingnuts are not only still saying it, they’re extending it to Michigan.

When a “Washington Watch” caller on Friday told Perkins about no-go zones where Muslims are “doing military-type training in Virginia and New York,” which he “heard on Bryan Fischer[’s]” radio show, Perkins said that he had also heard rumors corroborating such allegations.

In France, Perkins said, “they have like 700 no-go zones where authorities have allowed Sharia law to be imposed. There are some areas in this country that in effect that has occurred. Dearborn, Michigan, is one of the places, there are some places in Minneapolis, I don’t think it’s as clear cut as what we’ve seen in Europe, it’s been more by the effect that that’s occurred.”

Hey Tony, come to Michigan. I’ll gladly take you to that “no-go zone” of Dearborn. We can get some great kebobs and hummus. You can say hi to the 60% of that city that is not Muslim and yet somehow manage not just to go to the “no-go zone” but to live there peacefully as well. And then I can slap you upside your empty head and inform you that you’re a fucking moron.

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  • outraged

    You have to remember that this really is a “No go zone”. These people wouldn’t be caught dead there. I have a right wing fundie friend and whenever he goes downtown, Minneapolis, (which is rare), he packs his concealed carry along. He’s terrified that some brown person is going to rob him out on the sidewalk in front of hundreds of happy, safe tourists. No amount of reasoning with him will change his mind. All he see’s are hoards of angry black folk wandering the sidewalks.

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    Perkins is right. It’s gotten so Sharia there that even the Muslins took the area over are afraid to go there. When they drive through, they lock the doors on their car bombs and everything!

  • eric

    In France, Perkins said, “they have like 700 no-go zones …

    To which France replied: “Tony Perkins had one no-go zone, but then he got his head stuck in it.”

  • http://bespokebytes.com/ hackworth

    Hmm, when I’ve been to Dearborn it’s always struck me as a bit of suburbia that’s trying to be more than a bedroom community.

  • John Pieret

    Perkins said that he had also heard rumors corroborating such allegations

    Logic and evidence … how the fuck do they work?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1159674804 robertbaden

    Kind of like sundowner towns?

  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    So far, I haven’t heard anything about this fiasco from any other “mainstream” media sources. Even NPR is quiet about it. You’d think they’d all be eager to use this to take down their biggest competitor once and for all, and proudly prove, from every TV screen available, that Fox is a pack of liars and we should all watch someone else instead. Isn’t that why we have capitalism and competition among private media companies in the first place? And yet, all I’m hearing is dead silence, even though Jerry Boykin first started spouting this BS TWO WEEKS AGO! That’s starting to worry me.

  • Michael Heath

    Ed concludes:

    then I can slap you [Tony Perkins] upside your empty head and inform you that you’re a fucking moron.

    I think the most objectionable behavior here isn’t ignorant blathering but instead defamation. It’s easy to not lie; simply don’t make factual assertions without first validating those assertions are true. Defamation, unlike ignorance, requires some level of immorality and hatred – at least enough to not be concerned about misrepresenting others in a manner that’s harmful to them.

    Here’s a failure I see from liberals and not just conservative Christians. The willingness to defame public figures that are ideological opponents. From my perspective such defamation is arguably worse than lying about one’s personal associates. People that would never consider lying about a co-worker, friend, or relative for example have even less regard lying about a public figure outside one’s tribe. If others are joining in with similar lies about that same targeted public figure or group, such muddying of the waters creates negative outcomes far beyond the bad outcomes that come from lying about those people known personally.

  • theguy

    @8 Calling Dances-With-White-Supremacists Perkins a “fucking moron” sounds to me more like an opinion, one with substantial evidence backing it up.

  • dingojack

    Pfft, you think Dearborn is bad, wait ’till you try to enter Birmingham, England, where even the post-boxes have to wear crimson birkhas and the music is dominated by ‘Quaran-Quaran’!

    @@ Dingo

  • DaveL

    Well you see, those Radical Islamists are tricky that way, hiding their stranglehold on the city behind its Irish mayor, its churches, its restaurants selling bacon and sausage, its bars, its strip clubs…

  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    Here’s a failure I see from liberals and not just conservative Christians. The willingness to defame public figures…

    With no specific examples of liberals doing this (preferably on a scale comparable to what we’ve seen from the loony right), you’re left with just another bogus “equivalency” argument.

  • khms

    #10 dingojack

    Pfft, you think Dearborn is bad, wait ’till you try to enter Birmingham, England, where even the post-boxes have to wear crimson birkhas and the music is dominated by ‘Quaran-Quaran’!

    @@ Dingo

    Bah, that’s all chicken shit. You know where the secret Muslim HQ of the world is?

    Fox News, that’s where!

    They’re just trying to distract you when talking about France or Dearborn.

  • Abdul Alhazred

    How absurd.

    The no go zone in Michigan is Detroit, and nothing whatever to do with Islam.

  • John Pieret

    Hey Tony, come to Michigan. I’ll gladly take you to that “no-go zone” of Dearborn.

    Sorry, Ed. Your invitation has been trumped! Rep. Keith Ellison has invited Perkins to tour Minneapolis and meet with the Muslim residents of the city so he can see that it is still completely in the hands of the regular city, state and Federal government authorities.

    http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/minnesota-congressman-invites-right-wing-leader-visit-minneapoliss-non-existent-no-go-zones#sthash.xKPbHQOX.dpuf

    Oh, wait! Ellison is a MOOSLUM! DON’T GO TONY … IT’S A TRAP!!!!!!

  • felidae

    That Dearborn is a “no-go zone” would be a big surprise to the rich white folks who live there on the side away from the Detroit border

  • LightningRose

    There’s a neighborhood in the USA I’m afraid to visit.

    It’s called “the South”.

  • Michael Heath

    Me @ 8 (12:47 p.m.):

    Here’s a failure I see from liberals and not just conservative Christians. The willingness to defame public figures that are ideological opponents.

    Raging Bee @ 12 responds:

    With no specific examples of liberals doing this (preferably on a scale comparable to what we’ve seen from the loony right), you’re left with just another bogus “equivalency” argument.

    Me at 12:34 p.m. on another of Ed’s blog posts:

    The biggest lie I observe that’s currently being spread that involves MLK Jr. is by those who created the new movie Selma. I’ve read credible newspaper reports [1] that the movie presents President Johnson as an opponent of civil rights legislation rather than his actual role, which was the most powerful proponent of civil rights of that period and one of the most effective proponents of all time. Where the president also spectacularly succeeded.

    I won’t watch Selma for that reason. Just like I wouldn’t watch the movie about killing Osama bin Laden given that it falsely asserts that torture played a role in finding Mr. bin Laden.

    So while we see right-wingers constantly lying about MLK Jr., the current lie with the most traction that I observe is a liberal lie.

    1] Here’s an AP report: http://www.pressherald.com/2014/12/26/historian-questions-accuracy-of-selma/.

  • colnago80

    Re Michael Heath @ #18

    Item: Johnson was 1 of 3 Southern Senators (the others being the two Tennessee senators, Gore and Kefauver) who refused to sign the Southern Manifesto which denounced the 1955 anti-segregation SCOTUS decision.

    item: Johnson pushed through the 1957 civil rights act and broke the Southern filibuster.

    item: Johnson pushed through the 1959 civil rights act and broke the Southern filibuster.

    Not exactly a civil rights for Afro-Americans opponent.

  • dingojack

    Michael Heath – I’ll type this shocking news s-l-o-w-l-y so you’ll have time to sit down –

    It’s a movie. It’s not real. It’s a piece of fiction.

    The dramatic purpose is to show Johnson’s thinking evolving. (How do I know this? Well, that’s what the director said herself)

    I know that’s a difficult concept for you to grasp.

    History books (sometimes) contain history, they’re (mostly) non-fiction, movies are (occasionally) an entertainment and are (largely) fiction.

    @@ Dingo

  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    Heath: what liberal lie are you talking about? Are you blaming “Selma’s” inaccuracy about LBJ on liberals? If so, than, as Dingo implies, it’s not exactly the most colossal of lies — and, as so many responses show, it’s not exactly getting that much “traction” either.